@@Shalott63 Some of the people behind Dr Who created another TV series called Adam Adamant. On 29th September 1966 an episode called "Ticket to Terror" was watched by twelve-year-old me. $00 passengers disappear from a Waterloo & City train which rolls into Bank (I think) full of skeletons... I can't remember the plot, but the W&C train full of skeletons even in 405-line black & white was quite impressive.
@@roderickjoyce6716 Yikes, that sounds scary! Thanks for this little snippet. I'll try to look up Adam Adamant (and I'll see whether it asks me whether I mean Adam and the Ants ...).
@@Shalott63 Does anyone remember a horror film from , I think, the 70's called Deadline. It had to do with some Victorian railway workers who were thought lost after an accident but carried on living behind the walls of the Tube, occasionally emerging to snatch some poor commuter for lunch?
Vault of Skeletons was the name of our college 'Goth Boy Band' - a cross between Bauhaus and One Direction! It's a real shame the whole Goth Boy Band thing never caught on!
When the Bank extension of the DLR was tunnelled in the 1990s, it fractured a nearby sewer, which duly created a bit of a stink. My test equipment got to ride down on a flatbed truck. I had the dubious pleasure of walking down the tunnel to conduct commissioning tests on the fire systems at the station. It was a case of gingerly easing past the 210 litre plastic drum that was sitting on the walkway gently filling and stewing!
@@JohnDavies-cn3ro B list actor know for horror projects. Ash from Evil Dead/Army of Darkness being his biggest genre role. He also played the King of Thieves in the Hercules/Xena shows, Sam Axe in Burn Notice tv show, and the title character on the show The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. Being best friends with Director Sam Raimi means he's had a small part in most of his movies, including the wrestling ring announcer in Spider-Man and Pizza Poppa in Doctor Strange 2.
Buying more land than needed and then reselling the surplus once you’ve rendered it more valuable by providing transportation: that’s how many American railways made solid profits. In fact, that seems to be the idea behind making the Brightline passenger rail in Florida profitable.
Imagine crowds dressed in victorian clothes riding an open carriage steam train in a tunnel with hundreds of coffins laying by the track to go to the Dancing On The Dead concert venue. What seems like a gothic horror movie of today's is just the Metropolitan Line opening ceremony of 1863.
My old man was with the BR teams when they opened up by accident the bottom of a Newgate prison charnel pit in Snow Hill tunnel, dirt and filth, bones and skulls came a tumbling out and everyone was screaming they were gonna get the plague, he stopped doing the extra duties after that lol He was on the signalling team as he was one of the last Loughborough Junc passed out signalmen as well as Blackfriars before they were displaced, his unnatural knowledge of just about every train working in and around there was put to good use as winding in and out the Thameslinks into two ferociously busy main lines was a train pathing nightmare but somehow he managed to make it all work for BR to go ahead on those base operations but skulls and bones weren't in the job description lol
Novelist and poet Thomas Hardy is said to have supervised the mass exhumation necessitated by the construction of new railway lines close to St Pancras Old Church whilst working for an architectural practice. This gave rise to the legend that he arranged some old headstones that were stacked against each other in a circle around an ash tree. It became known as The Hardy Tree. In fact a photo dating back to the 1920s, showing children playing on the stones, with no tree in evidence, tells us the tree must grown up from amongst those already arranged stones. The tree fell on the night of boxing day 2022, but can still be seen lying on its side, with chunks of stone embedded in its roots.
When the Tremont Street Subway was built in Boston,there were two major cemeteries on the route,some 900 bodies,were relocated! Also when the Subway in New York,was being built,there were cemeteries,in both Manhattan and Brooklyn! Greenwood Cemetery is one of those relocation areas,from earlier building operations! Lots of gory,and not so gory,Victorian history,on both sides of the pond! Happy Father's Day,Jago,and a most interesting commentary,on a morbid subject! Thank you 😇 😊!
When the IND was built the 207th St. shop complex occupied an area that had been an ancient burial ground. The remains were transferred to Woodlawn Cemetery and an appropriate monument installed there.
Bodies had to be complete, but the bones weren't always stored together. Come the day, there was going to chaos as skulls roamed the charnel house, trying to find their necks, and tibias searching for the correct fibulas etc.
You've hit it in one Paul. I'm a Christian believer myself, but simply cannot accept the ignorence which lay behind so many of these ideas. What about those who died at sea (whose remains dissolve) or the classic charnel houses you refer to? It seems the 'theologians' never thought the thing through to its logical conclusion.......
Another example of the use of the drawing shown at 1:21. This was made by the artist as a warning about the possible future horrors of urban life - if you look closely at the whole thing there are details that don't look quite right. I first saw it in a children's history book in the sixties and it has since been used many times as if it was a contemporary illustration of a real scene.
You caught the back of the block with the Betsey Trotwood at 03:18 . Good, Shepherd Neame, pub. The whole area is described in Dickens' Oliver Twist, including Saffron Hill, site of Fagin's training school.
Crossbones Graveyard is at London Bridge and was used for Jubilee line extension works. The grey hoardings saying 'Jubilee line extension' were still there until about 15 years ago...
There were similar problems at York when they were constructing the station. York has a large number of churches and the building cut through at least one graveyard. There is a small remnant of a cemetary across the road from the station, which was also disturbed. Its gravestones tell us that the inhabitants succumbed to typhoid. York within the wall was filthy in the 19th century.
My grandparents are interred in Manor Park Cemetery for which I still hold the deeds, there used to be a necropolois railway within its environs many many moons ago
Florin Court in Charterhouse Square was used as the location of Poirot's London residence in the TV series and Poirot is a individual who has had experience of a corpse or two
Chartehouse Square has long been said to be the site of a plague pit, and during the Crossrail (i.e. Elizabeth Line) construction work, thirteen skeletons dating back to the fourteenth century were discovered there.
Good evening Jago from sunny Spain. When you started, I thought this was going to be another episode of Quatermass and the Pit (fantastic if you have never watched it) I saw it when it was originally shown late at night - scary!
@2:56 "Vault of 20,000 Corpses" sounds like typical juke box fare in The Swan on Wood Street, Liverpool. Kind of like Accept or Iron Maiden, the sort of thing me and my mate would be dabbing a tear from our eyes to and saying "Aaahh, they just don't write slushy romantic songs like this anymore..." as we daintily sip another pint of Marston's Owd Rodger.
Surely a video on the London Necropolis Railway and line down to Brookwood Cemetery in Surrey is due after this. It might also answer the question of where all those disintered coffins ended up.
Someone should, just for fun, make a pocket Tube map that shows the "London Underground" when it first opened. Same graphics and font as today's Tube map, but with only one line and 7 stations.
So interesting I have always found the area of Farringdon fascinating and steeped in history as not quite London nor the East end but a unique area in itself.
Jago, you didn't have to dig deep for this video. In fact, it seems like you barely scratched the surface to get to the bare bones for this story, but it is true that the meat of this tale is lost to the bin of history.
Oh, Jago, won't you have fun when you do one of your regional videos and it's the connection between Leeds City station and Leeds Marsh Lane... Let us put it this way, your peaceful grave is now a railway embankment, and your mortal remains are in it! There's headstones on one side of the embankment, roughly, very roughly where your original grave was. 😅
Have you read 'Necropolis', by Katharine Arnold? A truly fascinating, horrifying, and disgusting history of London and it's dead. I thoroughly recommend it. It's superbly researched, beautifully written, and unputdownably horrid.
Good evening Jago from sunny Spain. I was half expecting another episode of the BBC series about Quatermass - probably before your time. If I remember correctly (in the region of 70 years ago) they were digging a new underground station and came across a Martian space ship that had crash landed
That's what happens when you build your railway through the dead centre of town.
Leave
😂😂😂😂
I see what you did there
(Rimshot)
Get your coat! You're leaving!
“…but it was hardly a grave matter…”
(Standing ovation)
Boom... boom! (RIP Basil)
😂😂😂😂😂
He was dying to say that
Super obvious, but a good one
‘Dead and the underground have a long association’ … yes indeed
"enough dead people to make even Bruce Campbell think twice" is an underrated line
My favourite
If I ever get around to making a British Victorian zombie flick, this tale will be the starting point
I'm surprised it's not yet made it into an episode of Dr Who.
@@Shalott63 Some of the people behind Dr Who created another TV series called Adam Adamant. On 29th September 1966 an episode called "Ticket to Terror" was watched by twelve-year-old me. $00 passengers disappear from a Waterloo & City train which rolls into Bank (I think) full of skeletons... I can't remember the plot, but the W&C train full of skeletons even in 405-line black & white was quite impressive.
Seen Death Line (1972)? Not quite zombies but near enough. Inbred descendants of workmen trapped in a collapse still hunting for victims to eat.
@@roderickjoyce6716 Yikes, that sounds scary! Thanks for this little snippet. I'll try to look up Adam Adamant (and I'll see whether it asks me whether I mean Adam and the Ants ...).
@@Shalott63 Does anyone remember a horror film from , I think, the 70's called Deadline. It had to do with some Victorian railway workers who were thought lost after an accident but carried on living behind the walls of the Tube, occasionally emerging to snatch some poor commuter for lunch?
Perhaps they should have renamed it the Necropolitan Railway.
😂
forbidden icecream
"Death and the Underground" would also be a great name for a metal band...
How about "Jago Hazzard"? 😁
My vote goes to Vault Miasma.
"Mind the Dead"
Being poor in London and then suddenly finding yourself dead, is not necessarily a step up on the career ladder.
At least now you could sleep laying down.
Arguable ...
I'm interested as to how you would "find yourself dead" ?
I am impressed at how your delivery stayed Deadpan throughout - I'm certain I would've corpsed.
Vault of Skeletons was the name of our college 'Goth Boy Band' - a cross between Bauhaus and One Direction! It's a real shame the whole Goth Boy Band thing never caught on!
unlike black baby metal.... chortle ! Ya need to be more korean...
I see Jago has been boning up with his Metropolitan Line history.
ba-dum-tss 🥁
When the Bank extension of the DLR was tunnelled in the 1990s, it fractured a nearby sewer, which duly created a bit of a stink. My test equipment got to ride down on a flatbed truck. I had the dubious pleasure of walking down the tunnel to conduct commissioning tests on the fire systems at the station. It was a case of gingerly easing past the 210 litre plastic drum that was sitting on the walkway gently filling and stewing!
Well that makes sense because Bank station stinks, in a different way to the rest of the central line.
Jago's puns killing it today
Expression: “..skeletons in the closet.”
Metropolitan Line: “We have some and it’s more spacious than a closet.”
I use the Metropolitan Line, and Farringdon Station regularly but will never do so without thinking of this video now. Thanks Jago. 😂
"enough dead people on the tunnel to make even Bruce Campbell think twice" ... Groovy
Sorry - who's Bruce Campbell?
@@JohnDavies-cn3ro he plays Ash Williams in the evil dead franchise
@@JohnDavies-cn3ro B list actor know for horror projects. Ash from Evil Dead/Army of Darkness being his biggest genre role.
He also played the King of Thieves in the Hercules/Xena shows, Sam Axe in Burn Notice tv show, and the title character on the show The Adventures of Brisco County Jr.
Being best friends with Director Sam Raimi means he's had a small part in most of his movies, including the wrestling ring announcer in Spider-Man and Pizza Poppa in Doctor Strange 2.
2:54 🎵It’s a murder of human dignity on the dance floor you better not kill the groove🎵
Farringdon was the nail in the coffin for the Metropolitan Line
😂
🤘Vault Of Twelve Thousand Corpses 🤘
Jago Hazzard was a 70s prog band. I remember seeing them at Glastonbury, including a legenday 35 minute flute solo.
Their second album is called Strewn Bones!
Featuring the hit single "Dead Line"
When building a new station, Farringdon is a prime example of what NOT to do.
Buying more land than needed and then reselling the surplus once you’ve rendered it more valuable by providing transportation: that’s how many American railways made solid profits.
In fact, that seems to be the idea behind making the Brightline passenger rail in Florida profitable.
Imagine crowds dressed in victorian clothes riding an open carriage steam train in a tunnel with hundreds of coffins laying by the track to go to the Dancing On The Dead concert venue.
What seems like a gothic horror movie of today's is just the Metropolitan Line opening ceremony of 1863.
You would think that when you was dead they'd leave you alone !!
“They're removing Grandpa's grave to build a sewer.
They're removing it regardless of expense.
…”
@@stephenspackman5573 A Peter Sellers record from the 1960's. Very appropriate. My mate had a copy of it.
My old man was with the BR teams when they opened up by accident the bottom of a Newgate prison charnel pit in Snow Hill tunnel, dirt and filth, bones and skulls came a tumbling out and everyone was screaming they were gonna get the plague, he stopped doing the extra duties after that lol He was on the signalling team as he was one of the last Loughborough Junc passed out signalmen as well as Blackfriars before they were displaced, his unnatural knowledge of just about every train working in and around there was put to good use as winding in and out the Thameslinks into two ferociously busy main lines was a train pathing nightmare but somehow he managed to make it all work for BR to go ahead on those base operations but skulls and bones weren't in the job description lol
A macabre and dramatic tale conjuring up images of the dead bursting forth into the tube. Great story telling Jago.
Novelist and poet Thomas Hardy is said to have supervised the mass exhumation necessitated by the construction of new railway lines close to St Pancras Old Church whilst working for an architectural practice. This gave rise to the legend that he arranged some old headstones that were stacked against each other in a circle around an ash tree. It became known as The Hardy Tree. In fact a photo dating back to the 1920s, showing children playing on the stones, with no tree in evidence, tells us the tree must grown up from amongst those already arranged stones. The tree fell on the night of boxing day 2022, but can still be seen lying on its side, with chunks of stone embedded in its roots.
"Incursion of the Deceased" will be my first movie
When the Tremont Street Subway was built in Boston,there were two major cemeteries on the route,some 900 bodies,were relocated! Also when the Subway in New York,was being built,there were cemeteries,in both Manhattan and Brooklyn! Greenwood Cemetery is one of those relocation areas,from earlier building operations! Lots of gory,and not so gory,Victorian history,on both sides of the pond! Happy Father's Day,Jago,and a most interesting commentary,on a morbid subject! Thank you 😇 😊!
When the IND was built the 207th St. shop complex occupied an area that had been an ancient burial ground. The remains were transferred to Woodlawn Cemetery and an appropriate monument installed there.
'Hardly a grave matter' 😂
Deadpan delivery when mentioning the Fleet is best.
"hardly a grave matter"
Oh dear, Jago, oh dear. You should lay this punning to rest.
ha, x
Eh, he can keep going; it's not like I'm dead tired of it yet.
@@AaronOfMpls Yes, mustn`t crumble....
I like the suggestion of Vault of 12000 corpses as a metal band name! 🤟
Bodies had to be complete, but the bones weren't always stored together. Come the day, there was going to chaos as skulls roamed the charnel house, trying to find their necks, and tibias searching for the correct fibulas etc.
You've hit it in one Paul. I'm a Christian believer myself, but simply cannot accept the ignorence which lay behind so many of these ideas. What about those who died at sea (whose remains dissolve) or the classic charnel houses you refer to? It seems the 'theologians' never thought the thing through to its logical conclusion.......
Another example of the use of the drawing shown at 1:21. This was made by the artist as a warning about the possible future horrors of urban life - if you look closely at the whole thing there are details that don't look quite right. I first saw it in a children's history book in the sixties and it has since been used many times as if it was a contemporary illustration of a real scene.
On seeing the title I thought this video might be a grave error but on watching it thought it was dead good - thanks Jago.
As you said Jago, it was a grave matter! 🤣
Make no bones about it, this was an excellent video!
You caught the back of the block with the Betsey Trotwood at 03:18 . Good, Shepherd Neame, pub. The whole area is described in Dickens' Oliver Twist, including Saffron Hill, site of Fagin's training school.
Crossbones Graveyard is at London Bridge and was used for Jubilee line extension works. The grey hoardings saying 'Jubilee line extension' were still there until about 15 years ago...
There were similar problems at York when they were constructing the station. York has a large number of churches and the building cut through at least one graveyard. There is a small remnant of a cemetary across the road from the station, which was also disturbed. Its gravestones tell us that the inhabitants succumbed to typhoid. York within the wall was filthy in the 19th century.
My grandparents are interred in Manor Park Cemetery for which I still hold the deeds, there used to be a necropolois railway within its environs many many moons ago
Excellent video
Below Ray Street bridge is Ray Street gridiron, which carries the Metropolitan line over the Thameslink tracks (originally the City Widened Lines).
I love how you uploaded a video with that kind of intro… the day my sister moves into her new place
This is an oddly hilarious video, considering the subject matter
Florin Court in Charterhouse Square was used as the location of Poirot's London residence in the TV series and Poirot is a individual who has had experience of a corpse or two
Chartehouse Square has long been said to be the site of a plague pit, and during the Crossrail (i.e. Elizabeth Line) construction work, thirteen skeletons dating back to the fourteenth century were discovered there.
Makes 'Death Line' seem quite tame by comparison.
Should have saved this one for Halloween.
So
"Into the cut'n'cover trench of death
dug the 600..."
Good evening Jago from sunny Spain. When you started, I thought this was going to be another episode of Quatermass and the Pit (fantastic if you have never watched it) I saw it when it was originally shown late at night - scary!
Gives a new meaning to ‘gravy train’…
Very interesting one!
Proof that building a railway can turn out to be a grave undertaking.
@2:56 "Vault of 20,000 Corpses" sounds like typical juke box fare in The Swan on Wood Street, Liverpool. Kind of like Accept or Iron Maiden, the sort of thing me and my mate would be dabbing a tear from our eyes to and saying "Aaahh, they just don't write slushy romantic songs like this anymore..." as we daintily sip another pint of Marston's Owd Rodger.
Surely a video on the London Necropolis Railway and line down to Brookwood Cemetery in Surrey is due after this. It might also answer the question of where all those disintered coffins ended up.
Thank you for the video so nice to hear how the London underground was installed ❤
"Hardly a grave matter" you have a way with words Jago😂 well played
Mentioning Smithfield (0:55) reminds me of We'll Meat Again, surely Jago's finest exercise in non-stop punnery. See it if you haven't already!
Someone should, just for fun, make a pocket Tube map that shows the "London Underground" when it first opened. Same graphics and font as today's Tube map, but with only one line and 7 stations.
As always, entertaining and informing. Thank you for your hard work.
Totally digging that "grave matter" line!
credit to your thesaurus for assisting you with this project, your pun game is strong with this one
Those puns are criminal sir, criminal I say!
Brilliant tho.
Like a Victorian version of the swimming pool scene in "Poltergeist" superb!
Is this Tales from the Tube, or Tales from the Crypt?
Another great Jago video! And one that would make a great scenario for a zombie movie...
Are you telling me that grave gases caused me asthma?
Oooh, this will do nicely while I cook.😂❤
Incursion of the deceased would also make a fantastic metal band name!!!
Well Jago, the puns in this one made me nearly choke on my coffee
"hardly a grave matter!" saw it come out my nose
So interesting I have always found the area of Farringdon fascinating and steeped in history as not quite London nor the East end but a unique area in itself.
Only in London could you bury the dead, and later that day, the dead bury you.
This was a very grave matter. In fact, it stunk! But, your video came out smelling like roses. 😄
The Bruce Campbell reference.
Make no bones about it, that was an interesting spooky story 🤣
I love these sorts of stories, really appeals to my sense of black humour!
That was dead interesting Uncle Jago! Thanks!
Naughty naughty! Including a pic of Manchester!
Fascinating , Jago. ...& people think transit projects cost an arm & a leg these days...
There's already the very metal ...And You Shall Know Me By The Trail Of Dead.
...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead. Fun band, who would have guessed they were named after the Metropolitan Line?
sometimes i forget how harrowing london history actually gets.
Jago, you didn't have to dig deep for this video. In fact, it seems like you barely scratched the surface to get to the bare bones for this story, but it is true that the meat of this tale is lost to the bin of history.
😂😂😂😂😂
I like to think of London as a giant layer cake with dead remains as filling . Does anyone know the percentage of human remains in London soil?
Sounds like a tale Russel T Davies could be interested in.
Oh, Jago, won't you have fun when you do one of your regional videos and it's the connection between Leeds City station and Leeds Marsh Lane... Let us put it this way, your peaceful grave is now a railway embankment, and your mortal remains are in it! There's headstones on one side of the embankment, roughly, very roughly where your original grave was. 😅
Have you read 'Necropolis', by Katharine Arnold? A truly fascinating, horrifying, and disgusting history of London and it's dead. I thoroughly recommend it. It's superbly researched, beautifully written, and unputdownably horrid.
You made me frantically wipe my monitor screen at 4:59-5:06
Always find your videos both enjoyable and entertaining, Jago! 👍👍
Likewise.
Scooby Doo Mystery!
I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for this meddling Jago!
Mind the Zoinks
Good evening Jago from sunny Spain. I was half expecting another episode of the BBC series about Quatermass - probably before your time. If I remember correctly (in the region of 70 years ago) they were digging a new underground station and came across a Martian space ship that had crash landed
Thanks for that comment. I never did understand what that programme was all about!
We never did find out which station it was - Southgate perhaps?
Interesting to know about Skeletons on the Metropolitan Line. Maybe there could be skeletons on other tube lines.
Yes, somewhat weird.
And that absolutely would make a great name for a metal band.
Now I see why it’s called the underground 💀
I was on a jags binge and this just pops up- thanks
Honestly, love this video because the subject matter is so Victorian gothic I LOVE IT
What a great Father's Day video.
I loved this and the amount of research you must do
The surveyors must have used dead reckoning to lay out the line. ☠
I’m surprised that this is not a Halloween Special!
Well, that was quite a grave tale…
Jago: you are the cholera epidemic to my miasma. Thanks!
Enon Chapel is now the site of the LSE - a place I visit regularly