probarly somthing with lack of a transition state, like sion going a bit untargetable, and zac spawning new minions. while Anivia just turns into egg while still being everything the same, immediatly
@@luiscortes2333 yeah but they arent coded by the same people or in the same way, probably the people coding urgot ult either saw this scenario coming and made a fix or its treated differently, either way its a coding error on riots part for not taking this into account
yeah im wondering if for a split second the egg's hp is at 0 but reset the next second and for that split second Mel's execute executes her egg. probably not and its just spaghetti code
Ahaha the infamous execution bug. You see Anivia Egg is set to trigger on death, not execution, there is a seperate function for that with a few entries such as pyke R, collector, 225 stacks Smolder passive, Elder Buff, you know the gist. Guess they forgot to add Anivia to the list lmao
@@gvoah she runs in a straight line.. cmon you just CC her and walk to a tower or run away. Plus you can counter her E which will absolutely demolish her
My guess is- its just coded like 2 collectors at once. Since -technically- the egg is at 1 then full hp, the ability checks for the treshold as the item does and then proceeds to execute it prior to the egg forming.
I imagine that when Mel executes, the game sets the player to "dead". It would seem the other champions have coding that says "if dead, then...". However, Anivia has always had interesting coding and it wouldn't surprise me if her passive was coded "if 0 health, then...", which means getting set to "dead" bypasses all this. Just a theory.
I think the Zac interaction could be intended. After all, other AOE abilities also hit all of Zac's boblets at the same time and though they do have AOE resistance (33%), AOE abilities are still very strong against them and basically hardcounter Zac. Anivia ult kills Zac in his passiv very quickly. And mathematically, it makes perfect sense that it works this way, as each of Zac's boblets has 12% of his HP and they are 4 individual units. So, Mel can execute all 4 of them, basically quadrupling her execute power. And since it's a dot and an execute, the AOE resistance doesn't work at all.
Yeah, Riot is not even trying at this point. Perhaps they are too busy making new skins and thinking of new ways to harvest our wallets as much as possible. By the way, blue essence and hextech chests are probably not gonna comeback anytime soon if they keep doing this way.
Blue essence did comeback, even better actually. Note: you do need to grind so fking much to actually see the results kf the be. While they are theoretically bigger, we still need to see if, in practice, they will feel better for the majority of the players. And hextech. . . Yeah they have been radio silent. They will most likely have told rioters not to even address the situation with the chests or the 4 orbs from buying the pass. Their twitter posts have been getting spammed with chests though, it is only a matter of time before they are forced to address it.
Do Hubris on Jayce, Samira. They stack hubris differently based on the stance (melee or range), It is quite unfair when you get 10 kills, but only get half of AD.
Samira is never considered a melee character, even when using melee autos. To confirm this, hit a tower with her ranged and melee attacks. Melee characters have an increase to damage on towers
If mels passive works like the collector and does 9999 true dmg, try giving anivia more than 10k hp. My guess is that anivia fully restores her hp upon going 0 with her passive, but mels passive probably does like a stupid amount of true dmg to make sure that the target gets executed so even tho anivia would restore her hp fully with the egg she still gets more dmg from mels passive than what the egg form could handle.
I think its gameplay issues cus anivia passive works like "if anivia dies ( when she has 0 health ) anivia turns to egg form if she already use ult it will still work" so its not a bug its a logic problem . Am I right?
Oh btw Vandiril I seem to have found another interaction issue with Wukong and Graves smoke, I get some friends to test it later, if its worthy ima send
Mel counters all projectile champion and they even gave her a free execute that even smolder has to work hard for, she is perma banned unless im using her
Does the egg have 50% of the player max hp or whatever the execute threshold is? That would be my first guess and on top of that saying its just executing the egg immediately. The immediate part is probably not intentional tho.
This is like extremely fucking rage enduring as fucking multibilionare company must fucking find OBVIOUS bugs through youtube channels and community. Crazy fucking stuff.
@ No that is not how game development works :DD You are supposed to have public testing for specific nieche cases that are impossible to replicate with closed testing enviroment. Testing executes on champs that have some sort of invurnability, is not made for public testing, that is made with the feature in form of testing plan.
It's possible that they fixed it due to character popularity? I believe Zac is far more played than Anivia, mainly in PBE, so maybe it's that? Got a report for Zac but none about Anivia yet?
So mel is insane trynda counter, just keep hitting him and after his r expire he dies xD Ok, I just need to clarify one thing. If mel is dead does her passive remain or not?
Remember this is PBE. I don't think this is intended and will probably be fix in the release patch. If not, it will surely be on the next patch. Just be patient.
@@phoenixflamegames1 Yup. She's awkward and not very exciting to play but really powerful and safe if played well. No one can stall a game like Anivia.
The anivia player wasn't even mad he was just disappointed and in agony at all the spaghetti a bird can have
God the W alone man….
probarly somthing with lack of a transition state, like sion going a bit untargetable, and zac spawning new minions. while Anivia just turns into egg while still being everything the same, immediatly
Wouldnt that be same thing for champs like Urgot R on Anivia?
@@luiscortes2333 yeah but they arent coded by the same people or in the same way, probably the people coding urgot ult either saw this scenario coming and made a fix or its treated differently, either way its a coding error on riots part for not taking this into account
She doesn't remain the same. She transitions to an egg, with its own health bar and resistances.
@@jedanim9536It's the same in terms of code. While Zac and Sion "invokes" a different instance.
yeah im wondering if for a split second the egg's hp is at 0 but reset the next second and for that split second Mel's execute executes her egg. probably not and its just spaghetti code
he sounded so calm when he said wadafak
W pfp
😂
Ahaha the infamous execution bug.
You see Anivia Egg is set to trigger on death, not execution, there is a seperate function for that with a few entries such as pyke R, collector, 225 stacks Smolder passive, Elder Buff, you know the gist.
Guess they forgot to add Anivia to the list lmao
Bruh😭 watch them not bother with it
so they just have to make a list of things that trigger it instead of it triggering on death... sigh
@@g-3609 Anivia is a very old champion. Her code just needs to be overhauled.
maybe they didn't bother because of the secret anivia rework they're doing
“wadhafa🙀🧐😳”
"wadafak" 🗣🗣🔥
she fries the egg
1:45 sums this season up!
the title question is wrong, should be: *what does Mel not counter?*
your brain
melee champs that just gets on her. Mels only CC is the root on her E which has decently long CD.
Assassins as every other long range mage
briar
she reflects her ult and jumps into the enemy if it hits
@@gvoah she runs in a straight line.. cmon you just CC her and walk to a tower or run away. Plus you can counter her E which will absolutely demolish her
300 years
My guess is- its just coded like 2 collectors at once.
Since -technically- the egg is at 1 then full hp, the ability checks for the treshold as the item does and then proceeds to execute it prior to the egg forming.
The revive icon staying there over no health bar is the icing on the cake
"We spent an unhealthy amount of hours coding her projectile reflection on W"
"Also we messed up the auto-hitting part"
I imagine that when Mel executes, the game sets the player to "dead". It would seem the other champions have coding that says "if dead, then...". However, Anivia has always had interesting coding and it wouldn't surprise me if her passive was coded "if 0 health, then...", which means getting set to "dead" bypasses all this. Just a theory.
A GAAAAAAAAME THEORY (someone had to do it)
Just a clear look at that with base knowledge of programming
Pretty sure Zac and Anivia are not intended to work like that. But then again, it's Riot, so we'll see. 😀
I think the Zac interaction could be intended.
After all, other AOE abilities also hit all of Zac's boblets at the same time and though they do have AOE resistance (33%), AOE abilities are still very strong against them and basically hardcounter Zac. Anivia ult kills Zac in his passiv very quickly.
And mathematically, it makes perfect sense that it works this way, as each of Zac's boblets has 12% of his HP and they are 4 individual units. So, Mel can execute all 4 of them, basically quadrupling her execute power. And since it's a dot and an execute, the AOE resistance doesn't work at all.
I think Zac's might work as intended, but Anivia has to be a bug
@@justhair17 Anivia definitely is.
riot pls NEVER fix this
The spaghetti code is real .
For zac, i guess the hp trigger use zac's max health instead of blob max health
I am honestly surprised that only Anivia's passive is affected. This really feels like an improvement considering Riot's usual development process
Yeah, Riot is not even trying at this point. Perhaps they are too busy making new skins and thinking of new ways to harvest our wallets as much as possible. By the way, blue essence and hextech chests are probably not gonna comeback anytime soon if they keep doing this way.
Blue essence did comeback, even better actually.
Note: you do need to grind so fking much to actually see the results kf the be. While they are theoretically bigger, we still need to see if, in practice, they will feel better for the majority of the players.
And hextech. . .
Yeah they have been radio silent. They will most likely have told rioters not to even address the situation with the chests or the 4 orbs from buying the pass. Their twitter posts have been getting spammed with chests though, it is only a matter of time before they are forced to address it.
"working as intended" - Rito games
Ok then, so Mel is a minecraft zombie walking over the anivia's egg? Niiiiice...
1 year game design vs 200 years game design
there is a skill that thru zac passive too just like that egg, i forgot to record it
And here i initialy thought it was about her projectiles having low travel speed, but i didn'T look at the channel properly
0:55 doesn't Karthus passive insta activates E on death?
he's lvl 1 with 1 point in Q spell
It just occurred to me... but are Zac blobs projectiles when in the air? Both from dying and from landing spells? Can Mel steal his blobs?
Do Hubris on Jayce, Samira. They stack hubris differently based on the stance (melee or range), It is quite unfair when you get 10 kills, but only get half of AD.
Oooof
Samira is never considered a melee character, even when using melee autos. To confirm this, hit a tower with her ranged and melee attacks. Melee characters have an increase to damage on towers
@@colddorito doesnt matter, if I kill with Q short range or melee, I gain 2x AD. If i do any range damage, 1x. same with Jayce
The egg is spawn from 0hp and set to full which while sion become untargetable and heal to ful
If mels passive works like the collector and does 9999 true dmg, try giving anivia more than 10k hp.
My guess is that anivia fully restores her hp upon going 0 with her passive, but mels passive probably does like a stupid amount of true dmg to make sure that the target gets executed so even tho anivia would restore her hp fully with the egg she still gets more dmg from mels passive than what the egg form could handle.
Mel's passive does magic damage, not true damage. But it does take MR and shields into account.
I thought only her ult was the execute, why the auto attacks?
Well I noticed that Minions get highlighted if you pay enough attention. They also get executed!
How does Runaan's interact with Mel passive?
this is actually criminal
what about with Kog'Maw?
Just a random thought: how does Sion passive interact with Athakan revive? (if he gets the buff and dies + if he gets the buff whille in passive)
Already smell the anivia immortal egg bug coming back
Where egg?
I think its gameplay issues cus anivia passive works like "if anivia dies ( when she has 0 health ) anivia turns to egg form if she already use ult it will still work" so its not a bug its a logic problem . Am I right?
Oh btw Vandiril I seem to have found another interaction issue with Wukong and Graves smoke, I get some friends to test it later, if its worthy ima send
When is she coming?
tomorrow
Can Mel deflects Zac blobs passive?
Mel counters all projectile champion and they even gave her a free execute that even smolder has to work hard for, she is perma banned unless im using her
RIP Bloblets 😢
Does the egg have 50% of the player max hp or whatever the execute threshold is? That would be my first guess and on top of that saying its just executing the egg immediately. The immediate part is probably not intentional tho.
good call, i should have tried that - but didn't think of it
I reported this bug 2 weeks ago, at this point I think that it will go to live servers.
Can you kill Zac whiz passive, on Renata W. Zac pasive waist. It is true???
This is like extremely fucking rage enduring as fucking multibilionare company must fucking find OBVIOUS bugs through youtube channels and community. Crazy fucking stuff.
fyi this is on PBE. it's supposed to be for testing and bugs are expected.
Can y'all simply not think? Yes, the thing added to the *play test server* is in the testing phase still. It would be bizarre if it were finished.
@ No that is not how game development works :DD You are supposed to have public testing for specific nieche cases that are impossible to replicate with closed testing enviroment. Testing executes on champs that have some sort of invurnability, is not made for public testing, that is made with the feature in form of testing plan.
A week ago, i was playing on urf with zac and mel could kill me when i had passive. I guess they fixed that but forgot about anivia? idk
It's possible that they fixed it due to character popularity? I believe Zac is far more played than Anivia, mainly in PBE, so maybe it's that? Got a report for Zac but none about Anivia yet?
Sounds like may also execute through the women drug head's W?(not sure about the zombie thing at E or W... and it's name)
curious about akshan revive but it probly fine
does anyone know if Mel counters Karma or zyra? 😢
"Wadafa-" 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Mel didn't need an execute
Mel will make all 2 of the remaining Anivia mains quit.
Ahhh the typical small indie game call riot games, come one guys dont be that harsh about it
Isn't mel on PBE still? Having one interaction not work while still in testing is fine, isn't it?
@@mr.pickle6487 - Yeah, she is. And yes, it is normal but LoL players don't tend to see it that way.
DESERVED FOR PLAYING ANIVIA
she doesnt like eggs.
it always circles back to eggnivia huh?
I mean, remember viego E on her wall?😂
@@phoenixflamegames1 - I really don't understand how this character can be the cataclysm of such a bug. That's kinda bizarre.
they are so gonna remove the execute from minions lol like who thought to let it in, just like collector
I want them to find a way to cram anivia in arcane season 3 so they have an excuse to finally rework that trainwreck of a champion
1:43 wtf
rito never makes mistakes this is intended 😎😎😎
So mel is insane trynda counter, just keep hitting him and after his r expire he dies xD
Ok, I just need to clarify one thing. If mel is dead does her passive remain or not?
Idgi, they have execute items and passives already no? Why is this one so borked?
I was playing vs her in urf as lilia and her W reflected my R. im pretty sure thats a bug.
I CAST TRUE DEATH... sorry anivia this isn't how i wanted it to go. one must be prepared against time (sun) magic.
Yes it is fine this is cultural appropriation she is black she needs this
Sad times for all the 6 anivia players in the world
Dont fix. We need counter to this bird
Mel counters anivia? Mel counters everybody
I don't really mind having less Zacs and Anivias in my games.
You see anivia’s?
Coded as... champion?
Nice, Dota2's Break has entered League of Legends!
Relaxa que eles tão fazendo mais skin pra seraphine, como desculpa pro cliente porco deles
Mel cast YOLO at Anivia
Game is so cook
Fried eggs
The fact that she executes is unfun enough tho. I mean W H Y
First champion if 2025 btw
Aware
Anivia needs a little of love at this point... It's just barely usable right now...
Why Mel counters?
A free execute on passive is the dumbest shit I've ever heard of.
Remember this is PBE. I don't think this is intended and will probably be fix in the release patch. If not, it will surely be on the next patch. Just be patient.
i mean thats just a bug. they fill fix it its too big.
Its obviously intended game mechanics. They just need to nerf Irelia to balance it out.
they REALLY don't test their champs
Blue balld by blue egg
Riot please not fix, Anivia is costantly 52+WR and I hate her
With less than 2% pickrate btw. The mains are just good at her I guess 😂
@@phoenixflamegames1 Yup. She's awkward and not very exciting to play but really powerful and safe if played well. No one can stall a game like Anivia.
ITS OK
egg prices are up can’t have shit in this economy
Man, I'm not a fan of any executes 😞
Don’t fix this please no revives for scrubs
Seeing this new season... All around very happy to have this game on my computer anymore
Riot is too busy coming up with cool unfun mechanics to make sure they work properly!
Ha, Mel pretty much just counters everyone. That’s what her W does, no?
U know what is truly unfun? Facing an anivia, so, those mains better keep crying.
Sounds fair, nerf Irelia.
Not to be rude, but i think mel counters everything except briar
im maining mel cause i hate anivia so much
Nobody plays anivia even riot forgot about her