Buy This NOT That | Solar A1.6FR Vinter vs. LTD M-1000 White
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Guitars are getting RIDICULOUSLY expensive. Thats why we try to show you which guitars have the best value so you guys don’t get screwed! On this episode of Buy This Not That, were comparing the Solar A1.6FR Vinter vs. the LTD M-1000 White. If you have one let us know what you think!
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There's actually a difference between set necks and set-thru necks. The difference is the heel length. Set neck joints are usually in the neck pickup cavity while set-thru joints go all the way to the bridge pickup cavity. It just adds a few extra inches of neck into the body for more sustain
Oh dang. Thanks for that man! I appreciate it
The locking tuners on the Solar are an amazing feature! It takes long enough to cut the balls from the strings and then lock them in place with the wrench, so having locking tuners instead of winding strings is really nice.
I used to do this on my Ibanez is I would have the ball ends over on the headstock side and just cut just enough on the other side too get my tuning where it needs to be
@@davidemmons4670 this is the answer to this. Also this allows you to actually use your strings longer in case your string pops out of the saddle because you now can just unwind a bit more, cut it again and reseat it in the saddle without a gigantic hassle
why would you ever cut the balls off? just put the strings on backwards, leave the balls at the headstock. fast easy and looks cool.
Solar Guitars are made in the Wildwood Factory in Jakarta Indonesia. Wildwood also makes these brands as well Schecter, PRS(SE), D’Angelico, Yamaha, Fender, ESP(LTD), Supro, Jackson, and Dean.
GREAT video. The M1000 series like almost LTD of that range of price are randomly made in Korea, Indonesia or even China. But Solar are known for QC issue especially concerning crackles on the neck while ltd are usualy well crafted
Not to mention that Solar's ebony fretboards are showing signs of cracking
You can always sent Solar back if it has crack on fretboard.
I have owned several LTD korean models. They are great. One had a minor flaw in finish but very minor. I have now one indonesian EC-1000T and it had few problem:
-three way switch had connection problem
-one of the Fishman push-pull pots was had silent spot while turning it
-the battery cavity screw was stuck. The builder had forced it all the way to end and thread was totally destroyed.
-Fishman bridge pickup adjustment screw had same problem. The builder had not checked the threads before and just screwed it in anyways. So the threads on pickup was destroyed
The M1000 is looking like my next guitar. Fell back in love with ESP/LTD after buying an Arrow Black Metal
Hey Jacob. That’s awesome!! I’m looking at the 87 mirage. Love it
I played a Strat copy (Can't remember the brand) a couple of days ago that had Fishman Single Spaced Humbuckers. I had never looked into them. The kid at the shop raved about them and told me a little about their construction and he's putting them into a parts guitar he's working on. They sounded great. They had the boost like the video mentioned. It had a Micro USB slot in the input jack to charge the pickup batteries. 3 hour charge is supposed to get 250 hours or something like that. IDK if that's true but they were plenty charged when I played it. ;)
It’s somewhere in that neighborhood yeah. Fishmans are harder on batteries than EMGs (drain them quicker), but they’re awesome.
Body wood, neck shape, thickness, nut width at first and last fret, guitar weight, playability, comfort etc etc are important before making any decision
I agree with that.
What about the weight, neck shape, and fret access/heel carve?
I have one Solar and 2 LTD’s and they are all built really well. Great review video!!
I'm curious, have you tried both guitars back to back?
I had a Solar A2.7 with ebony fretboard, but returned it because the fretboard cracked (within 6 months so I got a full refund). Got myself a used ESP LTD ec-407 instead.
Les Paul's are not set through. Set through means that the bridge connects to the neck wood and the neck is glued in. Set necks normally have the neck end around the neck pocket. Sometimes set through end in the bridge pickup route, but with a floyds you are looking for your studs to hit it it.
Oh okay. Thanks dude
ESP-LTD volume knob doesn’t interfere the playing, is not like fender Stratocaster, it is closed from the pick-up but you don’t even touch it when you play it
want to buy a guitar recently
really want an black e-ii horizon because the headstock and binding
but solar a2.7w looks cool too and good price
so i want to know fishman pickup and solar duncan which better
I have a reindeer blue 2015 e-ii horizon fr and it is a phenomenal guitar. Zero regrets
Out of these, I would pick the LTD as I prefer the black hardware and it also has fret markers. In reality, I put my money on an Ibanez Axion series with Fishmans.
I’m with you on that one Garry
I don't know about the Solar but I had the M-1000 and it was such a sick guitar
Why "had" ?
i like the more extreme solar styles (V, E, X) and even dig their tele and singlecut models but i've never dug the super pointy superstrat look. i like my superstrats more round
Agreed
can you pls tell your opinions about ltd arrow 1000 and solar v1.6 frc specially about the pricing?
Hey brother! Maybe I’ll do that next
@@nikaxeguitar thank you, by the way I'm a new subscriber, I love your content, you give product awareness to people who are on a tight budget but wants a better guitar, and thank you for that, love from Philippines bro
Man it's almost impossible to choose, do you think a white finish like this would get yellow over time ?
unless you're a chain smoker or exposing thoses guitars directly to the sunlight for a long period, no it wont turn cream or yellow.
I’ve only seen white finishes age on REALLY old guitars. Like Antiques. But they also weren’t treated right to begin with and belonged to smokers. So I think it would be hard.
I would think it would depend on the finish as well.
Did Solar adressed the craking freat board issue?
Ola jus swept that issue under the rug(slaps hand)"let's continue" 😫
You picked te wrong guitar dude. ESp's QC is miles ahead of Solar's.
That’s 100% case by case. I’ve no exaggeration owned somewhere around 150 guitars and many solar and LtD. I’ve had amazing and so so examples of both. You are probably right that LTD has more consistent EQ, but you can’t speak to the two examples he had in his hands.
@@brandonbryson3317 That is true. I am making an educated guess based on my experience.
The horrible QC on the Solars are definitely a deal breaker. I've had 2 different Solars and they've been horrid. Cracked fretboards, peeling logos, HORRIBLE fret work. I'll never spend a penny on Solar ever again. ESP/LTD FTW, no contest.
They have been producing 1000 series in both Indo and SK recently. Sweetwater has gotten batches of the same guitar same spec with 3 from indo and 2 from SK (making up numbers for the example), so it'll just vary. If you have a strong preference for a SK model, SW is obviously a great place to buy from since they let you pick your exact guitar from the gallery.
All that said, personally I'd take the M1000 over the Solar. I like the looks more (not a big fan of the over-exaggerated horns personally), I like LTD neck carve and like the compound radius, and I just frankly trust ESP/LTD more especially since Solar doesn't have a distributor here in the states so any issues mean sending the guitar back across the ocean.
ESP USA does not handle any issues with their import guitars they are sent back by the distributor no difference than you having to send it back instead of the distributor. And most ESP/LTD are made in the same Wildwood Factory that Solar's are made in. They both have the same quality of production. So no ESP/LTD is no better than Solar cause they come out of the same factory. You just have a nit-picky preference and don't even realize they are made in the same factory in Indonesia.
Hey man, if you’re fine with being the one to deal with issues if you have them, that’s cool. More power to you. I, however, prefer having the ability to send the guitar back to Sweetwater if I receive it with an issue knowing I’ll get another guitar sent or a refund back almost immediately. I don’t have to contact the company or wait for them to approve a return, or wait for them to receive the item after shipping it overseas (which I’m not sure if you’re aware, it’s not the quickest process at the moment) and inspect it before they ship me back a guitar or issue a refund. All that stuff is doable, but if given the option, I’d much prefer not to have to deal with it and just have a distributor who will handle it. If Solar had more of a presence here in the US and I could more easily try their products, that would be great. But they currently don’t.
I don’t feel like that’s all that “nit-picky” (nor are the rest of my preferences), but I also don’t really care all that much if you do.
Also, as for them being from the same line, the ltd I have is Korean made and afaik they’re not making solars in Korea. But even still, I haven’t heard the Indonesian LTDs having issues with the finger boards splitting or any other QC issues, while I have heard of problems with Solars. Maybe they have and it just hasn’t been as widely covered. Or maybe not. Still prefer the LTDs and I’m entitled to that preference like you to yours.
@@Andrew_182 I have no preference by either I currently do not own any Solar's or ESP/LTD's(But have played both as I have friends that own both) but I do have Schecter's that were made in the same factory (And have not had any problems with them at all). That bs about the fingerboards splitting are lies it would have happened to every other brand that is made in that same factory(Which has not happened. Or that would have been all over the music gear community through all of those brands made there). Some people just hate Ola and they are just trying to throw shade on the guy. Does Solar have QC problems maybe so, but not stuff as major as fingerboards splitting(Those liars probably bought one and something happened in shipping which is not Ola's problem so people get mad and make up stuff cause the shipping company messed their guitar up). Ola may not be in the situation yet to have US distributors due to cost's of getting his product's into the USA and probably does not have enough buyers on average for it to be beneficial for his business. He just sells straight to the buyer cause it is so much easier to deal with his customers personally at this point and time.
Well, I’m not an ola hater, I enjoy his yt content and music. As for the fingerboards, I remember him making a video acknowledging it when it first started happening, so I think there was some truth to it. But I can also believe it was overblown in its frequency by people too. And I get them maybe not being at a place to have US distributors at this point, but it’s just my preference to not have to deal with the potential extra if something does go wrong when I can get at least as good of guitar from brands like Ltd and Schecter through sweetwater and have them take care of things if need be. That said, if there’s something they release that I can’t get elsewhere or it’s just too cool, I’d probably order one. I’ve been tempted by the baritone E type and I’m interested to see what their X shape ends up looking like.
Considering QC in both equal
Man.. i love this channel. I’d take solar cause I hate when a brand doubles their name into two and is segregating players. I have a Rg566 and gio ibanez guitars and I’m glad that they have same logos on the headstock even with „gio“ on gio model - it’s still an Ibanez! Same with Jackson! You can have custom shop Jackson and usual market Jackson but they are both Jackson’s!
Hey Nick... There's a common myth going around that most of these guitars that are manufactured in Indonesia are made in the same Cort factory. Perhaps worth researching and a possible topic for a video.
Don't think it's a myth? Good quality and they make great guitars!
Cort also makes guitars for Schecter,Jackson, and Ibanez.The high end stuff is made in Japan in the Ibanez prestige factory.
Hey Saad. Thank so much for stopping by. Thats a great idea. Appreciate it
This video would be more helpful if you physically compared the two.
That would have answered many other questions such as production origin and questions about quality and value.
True, that would be an expensive investment into a RUclips video but that would bring incredible value for the viewer. There are many similarly spec'd guitars in the market but a direct comparison would help bring clarity to a potential buyer.
I appreciate the feedback Jason. Thanks a bunch
''Which one gives you more metal for your money''
I love that phrase.
It's too late for me though, I took this a bit too far.
I already went with an ESP Original Series Arrow. I would have saved about four thousand Euros had I gone for the LTD Arrow. But that said, the ESP Original Series Arrow plays like butter and sings beautifully.
LTD for me, played a few Solars and as much as they look the dog's danglys the LTD plays infinately better and being LTD can pretty much guarantee it'll be great from the off.
Yes, please! I'll take one of each. Lol
I have never heard of the Solar brand name, so I would go with the ESP brand name without a second thought.
Tom Sisson
I like the volume control away from the bridge pickup. I like the look of the Solar better. These days Where it is made makes or breaks it for me. If they are made in China i will not buy them. Indonesia yes, Korea yes, Mexico yes, Japan yes.
I like the white one best! 😅🤣
Right?!?! Love it Jack 😂
LTD has a better quality, oh... And if you guys search about solar guitars issues, you find a loooot! After some years it cracks near the solar symbol.
Don't buy Solar unless you want a messed up guitar. QC issue are insane and ongoing for years now. Well, well past the "but qc issues happen on all guitars" bullshit. The only reason they are even still in business is youtube hype. Fretboard cracks, some of the Vs the bodies have started to split in half. And returning them is a big hassle, where as if you do happen to get a bad LTD, it's not a big deal because you can buy the LTD from most major retailers.
Can confirm, I've returned THREE of them. Two with cracked/badly finished fretboards, and one with tool marks and a ding out of the body. Staying away from them until they get their shit in gear. It's a shame because they play and sound great.
The LTD's and solar 's are made IN THE SAME FACTORY. Most of the manufacturers using this factory had some QC issues during the lockdown period during covid, they couldn't get their regular QC guys in , most of the garbage about Solar is regurgitated shit online, search any guitar brand on google and you'll find issues. There's also thousands of very satisfied solar players dude, stop with the ridiculous exaggeration's....
@@MickH60 No shit, and other brands do a better job catching issues before sending them out to the customer. I'm part of a lot of guitar groups, and the idea Solar goes to the customer with the same amount of QC issues as other brands is straight up bullshit. I've seen one cracked fretboard from one other brand compared to probably 50 from Solar.
How many indonesian LTD you've had? In my experience they have shittier quality control than the korean ones. Should have known after Jackson guitars went straight down hill after they moved to Indonesia
M1000
Ltd all the way
LTD based on their consistent QC alone
There is no consistensy. In my experience their korean models are superior to indonesian ones
@@raakareiska9804 hmm I would disagree with you there. I've yet to play a bad LTD off the shelf
@@LeoM-zt3pl mine indonesian came with broken Fishman pull-push pot, pickup adjustment screw and battery cavity screw were stuck and threads destroyed in pickup. 3-way switch had connection problem (there many other saying same thing on forums. Too cheap switch?).
With korean ones no problem so far
@@raakareiska9804 I think the Indonesian guitars are less consistent across every brand 🤔 not a big fan of most of the indo jacksons I've picked up either. Feel cheap. I try to stick to Korea 🇰🇷 or Japan 🇯🇵
estos canales debieran acabarse pronto
Not even OFR in either one... stingy imo
Yup indeed and for that price tag,a hard shell case included wud be nice too
I would buy the LTD. Not a fan of that Ola guy for many reasons, he adds lots of crap on top of his covers to make "amp reviews" sound better than they really do. His guitars cost $1000 and made in Indonesia and youtube is full of people complaining about issues with these guitars. LTD has many years doing this and is probably higher quality and cheaper. On paper, the Solar may have more "features" but that's not what really matters in a guitar, what matters is the wood and the quality of how it was built. Solar are just overpriced shiny guitars made to look cool to attract the nuu metal boys of today who love pointy horns, evil colors, etc, etc, but think about it , solar is a small new company, they have to make a profit, only way this can be done is by overpricing them and cutting corners. A bigger company can afford to put more quality at a cheaper price because they work by numbers. Solar works by attracting the young impressionable crowd Its simple logic, to expect Ibanez/ESP heck even LTD quality on a Solar at the price range it doesn't make sense, is simple economics. For example Ibanez is able to offer the Genesis which is a lot of value for 1k, there is no way Solar could offer a same quality guitar built in Japan for 1k without them going to bankruptcy
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@@Rattlepiece 🤷♂️🏃♂️
Esp Ltd is way superior!!! Solar cheap crap!!!
Depending what factory LTD you are talking about. Indo made LTD's are not as great as korean
Say no to painted necks. Ugh.
If you "couldn't verify" whether or not the LTD was built in Indonesia, you should learn how to reasearch. Took me 1 Google search and opening one store page, in 1 click a picture of the back of the headstock was shown mentioning "INDONESIA" in all-caps. Also, who actually listens to "buyer advice" from someone who just reads spec sheets and doesn't have (never had) the guitars in his hands... Yeah, I can read your sub and view counters, but come on. Has it come to this? People are so lazy that they need to watch videos of other people reading spec sheets to them? Sigh. This planet...
I love this. So mad 😂
@@nikaxeguitar Nah, sorry, your trigger attempt failed. I'm not mad. Just sad for anyone incapable of comparing spec sheets on their own, or finding easily available information. 🤷
@@1b2m I love this. So mad 😂
@@nikaxeguitar Still sad, not mad. Sorry to disappoint. 🤷
@@1b2m I love this. So mad 😂