Շնորհակալ եմ եղբայր ջան։ Այս ցավը միայն իմն ու քոնը չէ, այլ ողջ ՀԱՅ ազգինը: Շրջելով Արևմտյան Հայաստանով՝ հոգումտ մեծ տխրություն ես ապրում և ինքդ qեզ հարց տալիս, թէ ինչ մեղք է գործել ՀԱՅԸ, որ Աստծու կողմից արժանացել է այսպիսի դաժան բախտի։ Ամենուր տեսնում ես խոնարհված եկեղեցիներ ու Հայակերտ տներ, սակայն ոչ մի ՀԱՅ, նույնիսկ նմուշի համար։ Դե արի ու մի խենթացիր...
It's hard going to places like this. My mother's family were Greeks from Turkey, expelled in 1922. They were certainly more fortunate than the Armenians, or even many Greeks from other regions. I went to the place her father came from and saw where the house was; the remains of the church he was baptized in. I'm glad I went but it was like visiting the theatre as the entire set was being dismantled; a feeling that as beautiful as the place was, it had nothing left to give me.
+3choBlaster I never said Turks weren't killed. They were. Not "millions," but many, Kolokotronis even bragged about it. (The Greeks of Chios were almost entirely wiped out in retaliation.) I said it is difficult to go to places like this. My mother's father was from the Island of Marmara. I've been there as well as Ayvalık, whose families came from Crete. They went through the same things, and I have nothing but respect for them. As much as I love Turkey and the Turkish people, I'm saddened by the continued (though slowly changing) attitude of denial in Turkey. And the fact remains that when it comes to Greeks, they've pretty much succeeded in wiping out the Istanbul Greeks and their culture, through direct deportation, taxation, organized pogroms and policies making it impossible for their schools to operate efficiently. There are maybe 1500 Greeks left in Istanbul out of a one-time population of over 250,000, and most of them are elderly. They were used as "bargaining chips" in disagreements over Cyprus. The Muslims of Greece had problems too, but they still have a sizeable population there, as much as 40% in parts of Thrace. What is also interesting is that in Turkey, the experiences of Muslims from Greece were not talked about; they just tried to assimilate them as much as possible. Only recently - after anyone of an age who could remember their life there has long since died - are they taking any interest in learning about their lives there, what they left behind, what they have managed to preserve. BTW I say "Muslims" and not "Turks," not to deny anyone's Turkishness, but because there were other Muslim groups who were also forced to leave Greece as well, like Pomaks, Chams (Albanian Muslims) and Muslim Roma.
Well there are millions now in turkey from Greece as well. My grandfather speaks greek. That is his mother tongue. His parents were forced to move from Greece.
Shnorhakal em djerm khosqeri hamar. Miasnakan ujerov piti payqarenq. Che vor mer uzats@ @ndamen@ patmakan ardarutyun@ verakangneln u HAYKAKAN HARTSI ardaratsi lutsumn e. Menq petq e ashkharhin misht hishetsnenq, mer pahandjneri masin.
Eh akhper jan, mez kotoretsin u inchi hasan?? voch mi bani... Esor, vokhch Arevmtyan Hayastan@ krdi dzerqi taka u turq@ chi el hamardzakvum mutq gortsi mer hogher. Bayc, vonts vor du es asum, togh iranq irar mech irants ute,, menq el misht patrast spasenq mi harmar pahi u HAYKAKAN HARTS@ arach qashenq. Arden shat verlutsabanner en kankhatesum turqiayi masnatum@, mot apagayum...
Շնորհակալ եմ եղբայր ջան։ Այս ցավը միայն իմն ու քոնը չէ, այլ ողջ ՀԱՅ ազգինը:
Շրջելով Արևմտյան Հայաստանով՝ հոգումտ մեծ տխրություն ես ապրում և ինքդ qեզ հարց տալիս, թէ ինչ մեղք է գործել ՀԱՅԸ, որ Աստծու կողմից արժանացել է այսպիսի դաժան բախտի։
Ամենուր տեսնում ես խոնարհված եկեղեցիներ ու Հայակերտ տներ, սակայն ոչ մի ՀԱՅ, նույնիսկ նմուշի համար։ Դե արի ու մի խենթացիր...
Լավ է որ ներկայիս դեռ այդ հողերուն վրայ մեր անցեալը յեշեցնող յետքեր բոլորովին չեն ոչնչացուցուած
Ընկեր ջան, իմ համաերկրացի եղբայր, լսում եմ քո լացակումաց լացը ու ինքս էլ քեզ հետ լալի... մենք՝ անծանօթներ ենք, բայց միեւնոյն ցաւն ունենք եղբայրս...
Մեր հող ու ջրի, մեր նախնիների արյան կանչն է մեր մեջ շարունակվում ախր, հնարավոր չէ առանց արցունքի դիտել...
Ընկեր ջան, իմ համաերկրացի եղբայր, լսում եմ քո լացակումած լացը ու ինքս էլ քեզ հետ լալի... մենք՝ անծանօթներ ենք, բայց միեւնոյն ցաւն ունենք եղբայրս...
It's hard going to places like this. My mother's family were Greeks from Turkey, expelled in 1922. They were certainly more fortunate than the Armenians, or even many Greeks from other regions. I went to the place her father came from and saw where the house was; the remains of the church he was baptized in. I'm glad I went but it was like visiting the theatre as the entire set was being dismantled; a feeling that as beautiful as the place was, it had nothing left to give me.
+3choBlaster I never said Turks weren't killed. They were. Not "millions," but many, Kolokotronis even bragged about it. (The Greeks of Chios were almost entirely wiped out in retaliation.) I said it is difficult to go to places like this. My mother's father was from the Island of Marmara. I've been there as well as Ayvalık, whose families came from Crete. They went through the same things, and I have nothing but respect for them.
As much as I love Turkey and the Turkish people, I'm saddened by the continued (though slowly changing) attitude of denial in Turkey. And the fact remains that when it comes to Greeks, they've pretty much succeeded in wiping out the Istanbul Greeks and their culture, through direct deportation, taxation, organized pogroms and policies making it impossible for their schools to operate efficiently. There are maybe 1500 Greeks left in Istanbul out of a one-time population of over 250,000, and most of them are elderly. They were used as "bargaining chips" in disagreements over Cyprus. The Muslims of Greece had problems too, but they still have a sizeable population there, as much as 40% in parts of Thrace.
What is also interesting is that in Turkey, the experiences of Muslims from Greece were not talked about; they just tried to assimilate them as much as possible. Only recently - after anyone of an age who could remember their life there has long since died - are they taking any interest in learning about their lives there, what they left behind, what they have managed to preserve.
BTW I say "Muslims" and not "Turks," not to deny anyone's Turkishness, but because there were other Muslim groups who were also forced to leave Greece as well, like Pomaks, Chams (Albanian Muslims) and Muslim Roma.
Well there are millions now in turkey from Greece as well. My grandfather speaks greek. That is his mother tongue. His parents were forced to move from Greece.
Iskakanic huzvadz em ko xoskerov, cavt tanem axpe jan.
Yerani bolor hayerë ko nman linein ajxarhum !
Shnorhakal em:)
patalok 20 tariyen tvel turiayi goyatevmane, tak shto patrastvi axpers, mer paperi ergir Mush piti azatagrenq, Monten Arcaxe azatagrets, apaga serundnel piti Mushn u Vane azatagri, bayts arachin hertin ANARTARUTYUNE piti veratsnenq Hayastanum .
Molodec zkez, shat djisht es asum, vorovhetev ays mer bolori cavn e.
Turkeri mayrë KUNEM !
Husov em vor ays bolor hoxerë zmez yedk veradarnan mi or.
Lriv vhamadzayn em hett axpers. Nakh, aradjin hertin, piti nerqin tshnamineri verdj@ tvatsvi heto nor artaqin...
Ok, tout de suite
Shnorhakal em djerm khosqeri hamar. Miasnakan ujerov piti payqarenq. Che vor mer uzats@ @ndamen@ patmakan ardarutyun@ verakangneln u HAYKAKAN HARTSI ardaratsi lutsumn e. Menq petq e ashkharhin misht hishetsnenq, mer pahandjneri masin.
Miayn Aprili 24 ov che, vor piti hihetsnenq ashkharhin mer tsavi masin...
Je suis tout à fait d'accord... Hamadzayn em haryur tokosov !
Tiago Yaakov Blumenfeld Sarafian
Bonjour mon grand-père est originaire de ce village, comment puis-je entrer en contact avec la personne qui a filmé ?
Bonjour. je suis l'auteur de cette video. vcous pouvez me laisser un message privé
ARMENOCIDE Vous pouvez m'écrire sur ce mail unionyerkireurope@gmail.com(je ne trouve pas les message privé) ? Merci d'avance.
Avez vous recu mon email??
Kga mi jamanak, erb bolor gerterutyunner@ turqiayin ogtagortseluts heto, ktapalen, vakhenalov nrants gerterutyun darnalun ev kognen krderin, stextsel petutyun, mer patmakan taratsqneri vra. Isk menq, inch khasni mez?? Iharke vochinch... Norits ancats tarineri nman, tkhur hayatsqov piti nayenq MASIS SARIN u goranq ARDARUTYUN...
Eh akhper jan, mez kotoretsin u inchi hasan?? voch mi bani... Esor, vokhch Arevmtyan Hayastan@ krdi dzerqi taka u turq@ chi el hamardzakvum mutq gortsi mer hogher. Bayc, vonts vor du es asum, togh iranq irar mech irants ute,, menq el misht patrast spasenq mi harmar pahi u HAYKAKAN HARTS@ arach qashenq. Arden shat verlutsabanner en kankhatesum turqiayi masnatum@, mot apagayum...
Ah, Vous parlez meme le francais? :)
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детишки кричат "крдистан!!"(((