Cicada 3301: The Internet's Weirdest Mystery

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @wiltchamberlain9920
    @wiltchamberlain9920 2 года назад +2148

    Almost 94 minutes. Simon, bless you. Everyone is making shorter and shorter content, when I am here going, “but I don’t Want to have to find a new video to watch every 60 seconds!”
    I know the push is for “more videos in less time,” so I specifically wanted to say thank you for the longer duration videos you make.
    Edit to add: Kevin, I say that you make a 12 hour episode now. I can just put it on at the start of the day and listen. Simon I’m sure will be cool with that.

    • @Adjuni
      @Adjuni 2 года назад +46

      Because RUclips rewards channels with shorter videos because, I speculate, of a combo of videos watched and combined watchtime equalling high engagement thus more likely to reccomend it to more people.

    • @SirAlbertthe3rd
      @SirAlbertthe3rd 2 года назад +12

      My friend, I think that's enough typing for a small novel if this script was ~24 pages. One can dream I suppose.

    • @nugboy420
      @nugboy420 2 года назад +38

      Lol I gotta stop reading comments this is turning into a 12 hour episode having to rewind so much 😂

    • @SirAlbertthe3rd
      @SirAlbertthe3rd 2 года назад +17

      @@nugboy420 Right? I've done it like four times already and I'm barely halfway through

    • @zeusathena26
      @zeusathena26 2 года назад +2

      @@Adjuni & more commercials.

  • @corey4109
    @corey4109 2 года назад +2368

    I think the writers have a game going to see who can make Simon go on the most tangents in an episode and I'm here for it lol

    • @bretp5601
      @bretp5601 2 года назад +62

      They should have a game of who can make the longest intro.

    • @thejudgmentalcat
      @thejudgmentalcat 2 года назад +53

      Well there's not much to do in the Blazement after all

    • @R1ck3stR1ck
      @R1ck3stR1ck 2 года назад +44

      @@bretp5601 Danny is the king of intro length 😂

    • @R1ck3stR1ck
      @R1ck3stR1ck 2 года назад +19

      Allegedly 😂

    • @pyrogiggity127
      @pyrogiggity127 2 года назад +1

      @@bretp5601 to get done

  • @domhuckle
    @domhuckle 2 года назад +563

    I love that the writers obviously know how Simon works and writes the script with his tangential mind in focus

    • @nightwishlover8913
      @nightwishlover8913 Год назад +1

      MIND??

    • @MatthewSomethingOrOther
      @MatthewSomethingOrOther Год назад

      Very well done 🤌

    • @borja1000
      @borja1000 Год назад +3

      I disagree. If they knew, they'd write in bullets. Unless they are masochists or worse: they actually find him funny.

    • @Duckduckobtusegoose
      @Duckduckobtusegoose Год назад +5

      @@borja1000totally inaccurate. He speaks in tangent and detailed paragraphs are exactly what he needs/prefers to have proper context and all of the info necessary.

    • @borja1000
      @borja1000 Год назад +1

      @@Duckduckobtusegoose I absolutely agree. The tangents I complain about are the comedic ones. He doesn't use them on all the channels, only a few and they are annoying for, besides driving the topic away, they are badly delivered making them unfunny.

  • @Lilshiro123
    @Lilshiro123 Год назад +123

    As someone who went to a nerd school filled with a bunch of hyperintelligent people I can confirm that sometimes having some not as smart but really project management/ people savvy members is crucial to the survival of any group project

    • @Gus-n9u
      @Gus-n9u Год назад +13

      Having those with good emotional intelligence and communication skills helps keep the hyper intelligent working with one another and “the normals”. Bonus points if this person(s) are well versed in high functioning autism… a common issue among “the gifted” without these individuals, these geniuses would never work together and would certainly never explain anything useful they did to everyone else.
      The necessity for a “rail-roader” is KEY! Someone who would be viewed as put together and organized my the masses, and jokingly called OCD….. a gifted mind is a much a prison as it is a playground of ideas. Keeping these people invested and focused on a single project is a hilariously complex task.
      This comes from someone who focuses on education of those with higher functioning autism. Their grasp of the world at large is complex and strong, their grasp on the direct world around them is…. Shockingly fragile.

    • @Pat-RickSmith
      @Pat-RickSmith Год назад

      Say Sime do you have any old pics of you when you has hair?

    • @baphomet666MONSTER
      @baphomet666MONSTER Год назад +3

      I would not rely on anyone hyperintelligent when it comes to "how to survive". we aren't smart enough. fact. (I am over 130. and I still learn so much from normal, smart, not into nerd-stuff people. hyperintelligent is waaaaay to overrated, and normal, but smart is so dang underrated. I won't stop solving puzzles of all kinds though. I love to decode and can't stop. cicada is fun (most parts). hope one day they come up with more puzzles. I just jump in for fun. and they never disappointed me.

    • @Lilshiro123
      @Lilshiro123 Год назад +6

      @@baphomet666MONSTER high key did a double take when I thought u meant 130 years old instead of 130 iq points 😂

    • @baphomet666MONSTER
      @baphomet666MONSTER Год назад +1

      @@Lilshiro123 lol. "just" iq points. and just a few points over 130. not really "hyperintelligent" - just a bit over the "average". but take all the "modern" stuff away from me and ask me to make a fire with just the stuff I can find - I would struggle so badly. hahaha. I know what it needs, but I don't have the skills to light things up without a lighter or a match. ;)

  • @beastmastreakaninjadar6941
    @beastmastreakaninjadar6941 2 года назад +84

    I can attest to how addictive this type of puzzle solving is and how the quickly the enthusiasm fades when the puzzles dry up having played Ingress when it first started. When it began, Ingress used very Cicada 3301-like cyphers to reveal the game's storyline. A whole online community sprung up on Google Plus and other places to solve the clues and coordinate with your faction on the actual AR part of the game. Being able to know that you cracked a cypher, or at least contributed something crucial that led to that outcome, was a big thrill. When that part kind of died down (or became too commercial or something, it's hard to remember now) my interest waned and I dropped out of the puzzle solving part. But I did continue to enjoy the game for a while after. I even went so far as to walk around in the rain, in the middle of the night, ON MY BIRTHDAY to take over the whole town for my faction. Blew everyone's mind, on both sides. lol Fun times.

  • @ThatWriterKevin
    @ThatWriterKevin 2 года назад +548

    I really felt like this was the best thing I've written for Simon, so I'm really happy to see that everyone enjoyed it! Unfortunately, that means it's all downhill from here...
    Oh yeah, also imgur = imager and Tekknolagi = Technology. Didn't think I'd need to give pronounciation guides for those, my bad.

    • @wiscatpereira9409
      @wiscatpereira9409 2 года назад +5

      Trust the process there will the ups and downs X)

    • @rebecca7948
      @rebecca7948 2 года назад +12

      Thank you, I Really enjoyed this episode. It was very well done! Plus I am sure that you will find some more exciting and interesting mysteries for the future! And maybe that will be 2 hours long...

    • @ThatWriterKevin
      @ThatWriterKevin 2 года назад +16

      @@rebecca7948 would definitley love another one this long! 💕

    • @KleineKassiopeia
      @KleineKassiopeia 2 года назад +10

      This one was amazing. I was vaguely familiar with this one and loved every second of it. I love listening to long form content while painting miniatures or sorting magic cards and this was perfect for that. Even though I only followed half the puzzles.

    • @jennyhallam6530
      @jennyhallam6530 2 года назад +3

      Good job. I suspect you needed a little lie down after writing that one though 😉

  • @Dreamwriter4242
    @Dreamwriter4242 2 года назад +535

    My theory is the Cicada puzzles were all created by Simon many years ago. He was playing the long game, to give himself content for a really long, interesting video.

    • @amandajones661
      @amandajones661 2 года назад +11

      That is some serious meta shit. I would totally love to see this happen for real from someone.

    • @vampiro4236
      @vampiro4236 2 года назад +3

      Goddamn Genius 😂

    • @nickcastings1568
      @nickcastings1568 2 года назад +13

      I agree with your first sentence, but then I would go further to say he then forgot he did this and now thinks it was someone else.

    • @AjarnSpencer
      @AjarnSpencer 2 года назад +2

      Only an adept in Thelema and Solomonic Literature and Knowledge with Cryptography Knowledge can solve it. Both Occult, Social Engineering, and Steganography skills are needed

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 2 года назад +1

      Blessed be the Simon and all his clones. They will lead us to a new and somewhat confused utopia once they claim all of yt.
      (Y'all think that's good enough to snag a high priest job......or at least keep me out of the basement as either writer or food?)

  • @randomtology
    @randomtology 2 года назад +113

    I actually learned mayan numerals for a job at a science museum that was hosting a mayan exhibit. It's my coolest yet most useless skill. The only time I use it is when I tutor kids in math, i use mayan numerals for answer keys on things like flashcards and what so the kids can't cheat.
    That said I would've been completely useless solving every other puzzle Cicada laid out. Great video!

    • @--enyo--
      @--enyo-- 2 года назад +8

      That is pretty cool.

  • @error404webpagenotfound
    @error404webpagenotfound Год назад +143

    When I heard "do you think information should be free?" I immediately thought of Aaron Swartz, he was being charged for hacking into the MIT college website in 2011 to download a bunch of information journals they had under a pay block. He heavily advocated for free knowledge. He could've gotten a long time in prison but he hung himself in his apartment before he could go to trial and be sentenced. This obviously predates Cicada, but it makes you wonder if they were inspired by his actions, or if he was connected to it in some way. Heck they even could've done it to honor him in some way. I'm sure this could be confirmed or denied by doing some really deep digging, but I'm not interested in doing it, so I'll leave that to someone else if they want to.

    • @Wither_Strike
      @Wither_Strike Год назад +15

      there are a LOT of hacktivists who believe all information should be free, so while its possible they were partially inspired by Aaron, i think they were inspired by everyone equally, or maybe they came up with the idea themselves and learned of other hacktivists later, who knows

    • @Jay-gf8tm
      @Jay-gf8tm Год назад +14

      I think this is plausible. There are a ton of hold-out hackers leftover from the 90s-00s that want to keep the internet the way it was pre big-tech

    • @AliceBowie
      @AliceBowie Год назад +9

      "Information wants to be free" was one of the major points in the "Hacker Manifesto" from the 80s.

    • @DeRockMedia
      @DeRockMedia Год назад +3

      @@Jay-gf8tm im no hacker, but i did learn how to hack free 56k internet back in the early 00s in High School XD...i feel internet should be free

  • @orikarru7877
    @orikarru7877 Год назад +40

    I love these longer format videos. I listen to you and watch while I play games or work on my campaigns on the other screen, and it's just a delight. Not having to swap and find new videos all the time is more ideal, so thank you very much for this.

  • @UteChewb
    @UteChewb 2 года назад +271

    What I find interesting is the subtext of it all. Cicada reminds me of the time I used to lurk on the Cypherpunks usenet group. Lots of people talking about exactly these issues and incredibly complex cryptography. The Cicada puzzles are ingenious and cover a lot of suggested encryption mechanisms, but what they don't show is how people can work together. This is why they failed. They recruited people who were exceptionally smart, but filtered for individualistic types, then expected them to work in a team. People don't work like that. In my mind Cicada is like a modern digital monastery where instead of copying books in the scriptorium, they diligently craft open source software. But our culture doesn't work like that anymore, and even a monastery materially supported the people who worked there (and still do). Also, the most powerful thing about open source software is the collaboration, sure you have a single person curating the commits, but without communication, teamwork, and shared vision you are sunk.

    • @GravitoRaize
      @GravitoRaize 2 года назад +1

      I think the biggest clue as to why we know this was done by one person and not a group of people is because of what you are saying. And yes, I realize there were posters set up "around the world" but big deal, you can pay someone money (and could pay money in 2012, too) to just print something out and tape it to a lamp post.
      This was one clearly smart person that had limited social skills thinking they could make a group of other smart people that would work together only because they were intelligent. It was a fantasy they created for themselves that they could get teenagers who believe in uncontroversial things like liberty, privacy, and personal security to work for free for hours on end. Let's be honest, the only people who had the time to do Cicada were smart kids, but they were doing it for a proverbial pot at the end of the golden rainbow. When you take away the pot of gold, there's literally no reason for them to continue working like this.
      I do disagree somewhat that this type of stuff isn't controversial, though. There are three-letter agencies in the US that would not have been happy about this sort of thing at all in 2013 when Cicada 3301 started. Look at how they reacted to Snowden and Assange. Look at the propaganda driving us to more war. These agencies can't justify their existence if easy to use open source solutions existed for the average person and nation-states were no longer needed.

    • @KarldorisLambley
      @KarldorisLambley 2 года назад +24

      I love the scriptorium idea. I can just see them hunched over their machines in silence. Clad in rough, itchy wool they eschew worldly comforts for the privilege of serving all mankind. Days filled with contemplation of the beauty of well scripted code with that ineffable poetic meter I imagine they're well wrought code will have. Other than that their waking hours consist of writing code, obviously, or eating perfectly balanced and nutritious meals that are beige and contain no flavours at all. Nothing is allowed to stimulate them, other than the CODE for which they strive.

    • @beastmastreakaninjadar6941
      @beastmastreakaninjadar6941 2 года назад +8

      People often fail to recognize the power of 'the wisdom of the crowd'.

    • @elusiveDEVIANT
      @elusiveDEVIANT Год назад +4

      No

    • @sarahberkner
      @sarahberkner Год назад +4

      But people did work as a team and then they sent them individual clues

  • @atheistmom3591
    @atheistmom3591 2 года назад +149

    “You don’t want to know what Simon does to writers who aren’t punchy.”
    I guess we’ll find out on the next Casual Criminalist. 😆😆😆

    • @awkwardllama0509
      @awkwardllama0509 2 года назад +5

      Crossover episode!

    • @Blargaha
      @Blargaha 2 года назад +6

      You don't wanna know what he does to his productive ones either.
      Just ask Danny

  • @kaialexander6806
    @kaialexander6806 2 года назад +339

    Okay so I really love puzzles and cyphers to the point that there's just random bullshit written in codes in every notebook I own and will just make up a new one when I'm bored, but even I think Cicada 3301 are kinda pretentious. I was on board to begin with, but when it's that many layers deep with a book with only like 10 copies ever, I get the feeling whoever made it would be a right prick to have a conversation with. I'm also under the belief that if the only way people can solve your puzzle is through brute strength, you've made a bad puzzle. There's a different between a difficult puzzle and burying the lead too deep.

    • @hojirick
      @hojirick 2 года назад +24

      I totally agree.
      Another huge proponent of cicada's philosophy revolves around a strangely aggressive, and impenetrable anonymity.
      There are some good things about it, but I can't tell if it's laced with pretentiousness or paranoia... I'm willing to hear out any thoughts about it.

    • @Level30Commoner
      @Level30Commoner 2 года назад +14

      Absolutely. This pretentious bs got old very quickly.

    • @Steven-ly9ei
      @Steven-ly9ei 2 года назад +9

      @@hojirick the specific way they hid things makes me think more paranoia than anything else

    • @rjohnson2813
      @rjohnson2813 2 года назад +7

      There is a point and a theme... all the puzzles are tv show references. . Well particular shows anyway. I suggest you check out the TV show Fringe.

    • @Steven-ly9ei
      @Steven-ly9ei 2 года назад +4

      @@rjohnson2813 that's actually super interesting I never knew that bit. I just know enough people with an aptitude for encryption and those dudes tend to be a little out there 🤣 calling paranoia is an easy guess

  • @zerodoesadventure1824
    @zerodoesadventure1824 Год назад +32

    Love the use of prime numbers, and the consistent use of patience tbh. Cicadas taking 17 years to even hatch being both prime and the biggest indicator of the waiting game in the animal kingdom. It's a really interesting group and concept and I've really enjoyed looking at their works through the years

    • @ac-v5360
      @ac-v5360 10 месяцев назад +2

      👆 that is a great point. Why was “cicada” the name of the group? That seems like a big, obvious question that doesn’t seem to be asked.

  • @ChakkyCharizard
    @ChakkyCharizard Год назад +27

    MIDI is actually still pretty commonly used amongst (digital) musicians when they want to share the exact note structure of something. It's also a nearly universal format in the singing synthesis world.

    • @snarewizardgroulx7369
      @snarewizardgroulx7369 Год назад +1

      Yeah I was gonna comment that my electric drum kit has midi capabilities for writing stuff

    • @tbounds4812
      @tbounds4812 11 месяцев назад

      i use MIDI to make my drone play music with its motors

  • @jonathanwalls6760
    @jonathanwalls6760 2 года назад +208

    Hi Simon! The question "what does 'it' refer to" actually is a linguistic fluke! The answer is nothing, it's a requirement of English basically to have an explicit subject (for instance just saying "is dark" is not grammatical in English - this has to do with our syntactic node structure) so we supply what's called a "dummy subject" to fill the gap. I hope that's a neat fact for you! I had a lot of fun learning about that sort of thing in my syntax class
    Edit: may be worth mentioning that pro-drop languages (meaning they don't need subject pronouns) don't have this fluke, but many languages that AREN'T pro-drop use this kind of dummy pronoun

    • @jonathanwalls6760
      @jonathanwalls6760 2 года назад +9

      @Brandon Quist oh gosh yeah, the difference can make translation a real challenge sometimes. That's a super neat fact about the game, I had no idea!

    • @UnicornsPoopRainbows
      @UnicornsPoopRainbows 2 года назад +12

      @Brandon Quist Korean is the same. I freelance as a proofreader in Korea and can speak some Korean. I've had to turn down some jobs because between a bad translation job and bad source material, I literally couldn't fix the messed up translation.
      The weirdest job I had was a French children's book translated to Korean then translated to English. They had dropped a lot of information for the first translation, like the teacher's name, so translating it to English made it extremely awkward. I don't know why they didn't just use the original French. In the end, the payment really didn't match the effort

    • @Josway37
      @Josway37 2 года назад +4

      It could also be said to refer to the portion of the planet currently facing away from the sun.

    • @jonathanwalls6760
      @jonathanwalls6760 2 года назад +12

      @@Josway37 in the specific instance of this sentence, from a purely semantic perspective and in isolation (and assuming that there are no other reasons for it being dark, such as being in a room with poor lighting), yes, but given that this is a pattern that we observe in a whole class of verbs over a variety of languages, it's generally accepted that these verbs have a common semantic reason for exhibiting this kind of behavior, even if there are decent standins sometimes on an individual basis. Your instincts are good though in that, much like Simon, we tend to want to assume that there's some kind of direct reference (and I think there's a case to be made maybe that this is part of what allowed this feature to develop in this way, since it fits in with our initial assumption that it must somehow reflect an implied subject)

    • @AvoidTheCadaver
      @AvoidTheCadaver 2 года назад +2

      @@UnicornsPoopRainbows
      Chinese is also the same.

  • @ladykoiwolfe
    @ladykoiwolfe 2 года назад +79

    I was surprised to see the elder futhark in one of your videos. I am not surprised that you don't recognize the language they used because it is a dead language, but it is not a made-up language. It is more of a reconstructed language, largely because we don't know if we even have all of the characters of this particular language. But it would be the one that the Old Norse would have used in their writing. The few examples we have are mostly on stone carvings.
    I am honestly very impressed that these people, whoever they were, took the time to learn it well enough to use it in their code. And I understand why you would see it as a made up language as it is very often utilized for Dwarven characters.
    This was a very interesting video. Thank you Kevin for diving deeper than I've ever seen anyone dive into Cicada, and Thank you Simon for what sounds like your voice very nearly giving out by the end of reading it.

    • @thehorriblebright
      @thehorriblebright 2 года назад +7

      Anglo-Saxon runes are not the same as the elder futhark. They are similar, but not equivalent.

    • @Siilikeiju
      @Siilikeiju 2 года назад +5

      Just like the other commentator said, Anglo-Saxon runes, not Elder Futhark. I learned Elder Futhark as a teen and just used it to exchange letters with a friend about whatever stupid nonsense 15-year-olds talk about with their friends.

    • @kateschmid2889
      @kateschmid2889 2 года назад +10

      I found it funny that Simon has apparently never seen runes like this. I'm from the bottom of Africa and even I thought, oh those look like some kind of Scandinavian/Norse runes (I wouldn't have known they were Anglo-Saxon exactly)

  • @counterfeitsaint7479
    @counterfeitsaint7479 2 года назад +95

    Simon talking for an hour and a half about my favorite internet mystery? What a blessed Friday.
    Two things: First, someone made a Cicada 3301 movie. It's embarrassing. Don't bother.
    Second, I think it was just a group of well intentioned cryptography nerds. It's way more fun to come up with cool, difficult puzzles with your friends than it is to actually produce meaningful change. Once it came time to actually make something of value they started losing interest slowly. They were also probably pretty young, and started growing up and caring more about things like steady jobs and making and providing for their families, and less time chatting on the internet about how they wanna change the world.

    • @dzd2371
      @dzd2371 2 года назад +9

      I think you're exactly right. I just followed along with this from a distance and that was always my assumption as well. Not to say that whoever was behind all this didn't go onto something different invovling lots of coding and hacking, but they obviously had a LOT of free time on their hands.

    • @Meyoutoo2222
      @Meyoutoo2222 2 года назад +1

      Ah c'mon, the movie wasn't THAT bad. I mean I wouldn't pay for it, but if you have a streaming service that has it free (Hulu I think has it), it'll mildly entertain you for 1.5 hours or so lol

    • @ItsHyomoto
      @ItsHyomoto 2 года назад +5

      This does seem completely rational and might even explain the "final" puzzle. Still, they had some measure of resources and were apparently quite good at covering their tracks so it seems like they had to be adults working in tech. As Simon says, the skills they wanted would easily land you a job.

    • @herzkine
      @herzkine 2 года назад +1

      But if they " grew up" why not sell the end of the puzzle to a massive advert and do a huge grown up chaching.

    • @ItsHyomoto
      @ItsHyomoto 2 года назад +1

      ​@@herzkine That's pretty easy to guess. The solution to the book is unlikely to be a huge money spinner, even assuming they were profit motivated which, based on everything we seem to know, they weren't.

  • @sarahwisniewski6722
    @sarahwisniewski6722 Год назад +11

    This has to be my favourite Simon video to listen to/watch. It's fun hearing him get excited as he ponders things, and learns about it. I smile to myself when I hear him say "Is that a card game?"

  • @pascaldongen2981
    @pascaldongen2981 Год назад +11

    I love how this is exactly what decoding the unknown is made for. This episode has no mystic or devine influences yet is a great mystery with plenty of stuff to discuss. one of the best episodes...though the ghost stuff can be good fun too ^^

  • @Charley.Farley
    @Charley.Farley 2 года назад +74

    Hell, the script is almost as long as my dissertation was 😂 That’s dedication, Kevin. We appreciate you. Also love your style of writing 😊

  • @alliewhitlock621
    @alliewhitlock621 2 года назад +55

    Okay, so I'm only a third of the way through the video, so I apologize if this gets covered later. I've heard this mystery before (covered by Red Web) and hadn't heard about the "second chance puzzle". The painting used for one of the puzzle steps had me make a huge connection. 1) the magic eye puzzle of the holy grail/the message that this isn't the quest for the holy grail 2) they waited a year and a day before the next puzzle which has huge significance in medieval law, wiccanism, and even play a big part in the plot of Sir Gwain and the Green Knight- a story in the collection of late medieval Grail/King Arthur lore. 3) (the new piece of info from this video that made me realize a connection) the painting of the woman in a boat is called "The Woman of Shallott" By John William Waterhouse based on a poem by Lord Tennyson of the same name. It's a sad poem of a cursed woman and her non-interaction with Lancelot and (spoiler) ends with her dead body floating in a boat to Camelot. All three of these things are Holy Grail/King Arthur related. Maybe I'm just finding connection where there is none. I mean I am in school to be a medieval art history professor and so these things would stand out to me. But I just found it fascinating.

    • @ninavale.
      @ninavale. 2 года назад +4

      I'm past that but like...I wonder with all the books and poems...if some clue wasn't hidden in Tennyson's poem. The exacr like this picture reffers to is "It was the closing of the day: She loos'd the chain, and down she lay; The broad stream bore her far away,The Lady of Shalott"

    • @RealElongatedMuskrat
      @RealElongatedMuskrat 2 года назад +2

      thanks for sharing, that is interesting!

    • @evanray8413
      @evanray8413 2 года назад +2

      I've never studied medieval anything but the year and a day reminded me if handfasting.

  • @Reddotzebra
    @Reddotzebra 2 года назад +25

    MIDI files can actually sound extremely good, and is behind a lot of what we today can do in electronic music.
    Basically, a MIDI file is not a music file as you would think of it normally, instead it's a set of instructions for what pre-recorded sound files of instruments to use in order to play a song, sheet music for computers.
    When you play one of these, it uses the prerecorded tones that comes with a now-mostly-defunct part of your computer that USED to be called a sound card, the ones we have today are compact enough to fit in a small USB dongle or pair of headphones, but the ones back then were much more advanced, and contained extra hardware, some of this being a read-only memory module of pre-recorded sounds analogous to what you'd find in a synth keyboard.
    How your bleep bloop MIDI file sounded when you actually played it was thus determined by how complex it was when originally written and how expensive your sound card was, better cards (generally) had higher quality sound bytes.
    This is incidentally exactly the same thing keyboards do, except they can both play and write MIDI files on the fly via direct user input, so we are still using this format for things.
    (And they are tiny because all the bits that normally take up space are already on whatever it is you use to play it on.)

  • @MlleAventure
    @MlleAventure 2 года назад +5

    Fantastic video !! Please make more of these (even tho they're beasts to make). On a side note, I love that it offers an excellent timeline for understanding Internet tech evolution, uses and changes in the last decade ... Imma include this in my optional course videos!

  • @christophermes3
    @christophermes3 2 года назад +3

    You're the best. You all put together a production that I find myself watching until the end. I hope you never leave you tube. Thank you for years. You are appreciated.🙂

  • @zeykriid
    @zeykriid 2 года назад +92

    Simon: it’s a fake language; looks like something someone would make up as alien text in a movie or something.
    the ancient Norsemen: am I a joke to you

    • @hellviper944
      @hellviper944 2 года назад +3

      I thought it looked Nordic

    • @PbFoot
      @PbFoot 2 года назад +1

      @@hellviper944 i thought they were runes of some sort too. im no expert, so i wouldn't be able to specify nordic or druidic or wiccan, but considering the previous reference to crowley, i wouldn't be surprised if they were occult in nature. or maybe some language from a video game.

    • @Kawamura2
      @Kawamura2 2 года назад +4

      @@PbFoot They're either Norse or Saxon runes, I think. They looked like Elder Futhark runes, but I can't be sure.

    • @timmanning5206
      @timmanning5206 2 года назад +2

      I know nothing about runes (apart from Bluetooth rune) but, yeah, they just jumped out as being obviously northern European runes

    • @Kawamura2
      @Kawamura2 2 года назад +4

      @@timmanning5206 Well, if you are interested in fantasy at all, real, actual runes are used as a written fantasy language a lot. Though, if you aren't, or you've never been into Paganism in any way, then I guess you probably wouldn't know that. I used to be Pagan, with an interest in Norse and Celtic mythology, so, I guess I just take for granted that they're runes, and may look like an alien language to someone else lol

  • @chiefdm
    @chiefdm 2 года назад +20

    Cicada "Everyone has a right to privacy." ------------ Also Cicada "If you lie to us, we will find out."

  • @CZPanthyr
    @CZPanthyr 2 года назад +45

    Definintely love the long ones, Simon. More long ones! Oh, and this was interesting, if not a little mind numbing. Not from boredom but from trying to keep up with the puzzles. Oh, and that one page of the "First Book" looked to me like it was in Futhark runes.

  • @themisprintguy
    @themisprintguy Год назад +8

    I have one of the Magic the Gathering cards with the phone number on the back! They released ten, and that story was HUGE when it released. It was indeed a cool promotion.

    • @ThatWriterKevin
      @ThatWriterKevin Год назад +1

      I was about to be utterly shocked that you have one of those cards, then I saw your name lol. Your collection is beyond insane, and also it's a nice reminder that I should probably sell the handful of misprints I have laying around

    • @themisprintguy
      @themisprintguy Год назад +1

      I got it graded ASAP so it was authenticated before the “normal” copies hit. Three total copies were quickly graded, which I think is smart.

    • @ThatWriterKevin
      @ThatWriterKevin Год назад

      @@themisprintguy Never cared for grading cards, I'd rather be able to use them. If I had something that rare I may feel differently, but even my set of power I sought up MP copies so I wouldn't feel bad playing with them

  • @AhmdsYT
    @AhmdsYT Год назад +1

    This episode pops in everyday!
    One of my favorite DTU episodes, and I would love to see an episode explaining a big and complex mystery like this one!

  • @rebeccan518
    @rebeccan518 2 года назад +14

    My opinion coincides with something Simon touched on; it was a group of smart people who wanted to do things they felt were important but realized that having taught them not to collaborate or work with others was a bad idea so that’s why the ‘veteran’ members stopped interacting with the group and shut it down eventually. It also seems to fit with why they didn’t seem to discourage collaborating in the later interactions.
    It’s also possible, in my opinion, as the one member mentioned he was a kid who got bored, it’s possible the actual organization were around similar ages and upon realizing their ideas were simpler in theory than reality, or just that their grand plan wasn’t really tenable, they too lost interest.

    • @Gus-n9u
      @Gus-n9u 8 месяцев назад

      This makes a good deal of sense
      It probably didn’t help that they had to realize pretty fast that MOST people playing only cared about the mystery and not the ethos of the group and it’s goals.
      Privacy from the government is very good and enforceable, but privacy from other private citizens is a different matter…. if you create a mystery that is intended for those who are inherently curious and frankly nosy….. they are going to care about learning who you are more than they care about what you have to say.
      It’s like expecting the mystery gang not to unmask you at the end.

  • @jaws013
    @jaws013 2 года назад +6

    MORE LONG ONES PLEASE! Seriously though I love the long-form stuff. I binge videos like this of yours at work. Literally save every video from you that I want to see each week and then binge them all for 12 hours come my weekends factory job. So yes please more thank you

  • @coconutcore
    @coconutcore 2 года назад +30

    57:16 Simon explaining the Ship of Theseus, then asking how “we cannot step in the same river twice relates to that?”, then starting to explain how it relates to that, only to then ask the question both of them pose without realising that THAT’S HOW THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER!

  • @roguewolf7053
    @roguewolf7053 2 года назад +95

    This is all taking me back to when the internet was still very interesting & still had a lot of potential for good…before it became a complete dumpster fire with seriously negative impacts on society.
    Which is why I love Simon’s channels. They are actually videos containing quality information that in most cases make you think. I wish more channels were like his.

    • @ricardomiles2957
      @ricardomiles2957 2 года назад +7

      well, any technology has good and bad. Whar makes it seems worse is the number of people using it and "optimization". Back then we had these shock sites that almost everyone with internet acess would stumble upon but the number of people using was so low that the impact was localized.

    • @AndrewGivens
      @AndrewGivens Год назад

      "before it became a complete dumpster fire with seriously negative impacts on society"
      - what, when it was crawling with paedos? No, it's definitely preferable in it's teen-stress-inducing, clickbaity narcissicm-feeding version, like it or not.

    • @names_are_useless
      @names_are_useless Год назад +7

      I blame Big Business and the General Public's involvement now with the Internet. Rock & Roll used to be Cool and Underground ... nowadays it's used for advertising by Big Business and the General Public is so used to it, so all the "Street Cred" it had before has ... diminished. Same could be said for the Internet.

    • @Sienisota
      @Sienisota Год назад

      ​@@names_are_uselessgone are the days when the only adds you had to block were porn. Scams were obvious scams back then. You knew you were taking a risk when downloading things, but your whole life couldn't be accessed through Internet.

    • @nk650
      @nk650 Год назад +2

      the internet was always bad, people just didn't notice it that much

  • @tylerwilson4951
    @tylerwilson4951 Год назад +8

    I absolutely loved the dynamic between the writer (I’m sorry I forgot the writer’s name - I am writing this comment retroactively). The interplay between the writer/script and Simon’s banter was really entertaining and lifted my spirits after a very long day. Thank you all for making my day a little better!

  • @rachelwitherspoon4394
    @rachelwitherspoon4394 2 года назад +38

    Freaking AWESOME! Its my birthday, and I get an hour and a half DTU, by my favorite of Simons script writers as a present!!! Gonna be a real good day!!!! Kevin may not love all that writing for such a long episode, but we sure love the end results, the longer the better!!

  • @ryanc473
    @ryanc473 2 года назад +25

    Ah, I've been waiting for this one since it was mentioned in a previous video. Sweet! Glad Jen survived the editing of this beast!

    • @fadyaboujaoude
      @fadyaboujaoude 2 года назад +2

      Exactly! I looked through all his videos thinking I might have missed it because I didn’t remember it. Then I remembered that he doesn’t always release them in order.

    • @resileaf9501
      @resileaf9501 2 года назад

      @@fadyaboujaoude Yeah, as Simon said in this video, this was recorded in January of this year. This is basically 4 months old. I bet that Jen didn't edit it all in one go. I wouldn't either, this would get tedious quick.

  • @Level30Commoner
    @Level30Commoner 2 года назад +68

    A good puzzle can be deduced. They started with some smart and interesting puzzles but with the second puzzle thread it became just random cyphers thrown together without any meaningful logical path. Just brute force this and let a program solve that. It's lazy and pretentious to the max in my opinion.
    Still a great episode. Thank you very much, Simon! 🙂

    • @freedfg6694
      @freedfg6694 2 года назад +14

      Exactly my issue with it. It's not a logical puzzle where the intelligent and diligent can have the ability to solve. It's a series of gates to check if you have aptitude in highly specific programs. If you do, great. If you don't, you are locked out.

    • @Greyinkling276
      @Greyinkling276 2 года назад +5

      This whole story makes a nice parable disproving ideas of shadowy organizations and groups running the world and the Hollywood idea of how such organizations might work. my guess for the group is they have one or more idealists who are incredibly delusional and pretentious about what they're trying to do and then some more analytical puzzle/game theory nerds doing the grunt work, but they don't have any actual major power, maybe just a rich kid in the mix or some bored techbro with a bit of money. The reality of who they likely are is boring, the super cool hacker group changing the world is boring and childish, their manifesto is pretentious words hidden by pretentious puzzles. A cool Latin phrase and a mysterious logo despite claiming to have neither name or logo.
      And beside them is the stark contrast of Anonymous in their prime: a gloating chaotic hoard of masked goblins gleeful in their basement dungeons with no delusion about the reality of who and what they are, poking at power to prove it can bleed, but still not capable of a revolution of any kind despite superior numbers and ambition than this private puzzle club.

  • @SGking9009
    @SGking9009 2 года назад +2

    More long ones Kevin pls and thank you ❤️
    Love your guy's work the writing(especiallyKevin's), Simons narration/tangents, Jen's editing. Its a perfect blend that makes me want more decoding and casual criminalist.

  • @caitilines
    @caitilines 2 года назад +5

    Watched a few short form videos on the topic, but it was amazing to hear every step and piece of information explained!! Really appreciate the details and infographics along the way :)

  • @Thejackofirishdiamon
    @Thejackofirishdiamon 2 года назад +50

    "I found it so cool back in the day- er i mean not me, someone who might be like me" best part of the whole video. Simon it's your own rule! Don't write down/record your crimes 🤣

    • @makinka0cp
      @makinka0cp 2 года назад +6

      proves to be the most difficult one to keep

    • @davidkaye8712
      @davidkaye8712 2 года назад +7

      Allegedly !

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 2 года назад

      ahh, iso images. or the best ways to get linux images

  • @LeelaWood
    @LeelaWood 2 года назад +22

    Loved this one! I’m a big fan of the long form videos. I understand that they do not please the algorithm gods, but I really enjoy settling in for a well written deep dive. And Simon, you have some great writers! Kevin, great job on the script, that was a fascinating rabbit hole. (Although hey, Telnet was awesome! Back in the mid-90s I spent more hours than I want to try and count logged into MUDs and MUSHes via Telnet. They were text based, but they were the best MMOs we had at the time.)

  • @Lafiel17
    @Lafiel17 2 года назад +9

    I'm so happy to see Simon enjoying reading a script so much. Quite the change from the BTK Casual Criminalist that I just watched.

  • @chrisleneil
    @chrisleneil 2 года назад +10

    What I found out about myself from this video:
    I loathe cryptography.
    I also have *extremely* strong feelings about the answers to vague philosophical questions used in hiring, & thus would NEVER get hired by any company using those in their hiring process.
    This team is amazing for keeping me involved for such a long video about this topic!

    • @sarahberkner
      @sarahberkner Год назад

      The statement, "There is no truth" has to be false because if it's true then there is truth.

    • @supermexicanroboninja3116
      @supermexicanroboninja3116 Год назад +1

      Applied for a job in a bakery. They asked more questions about my life, my worldview and my plan for retirement than the actual job. Just let me bake cakes. That's why you exist.

    • @gg829
      @gg829 11 месяцев назад

      The real puzzle is the question: "Who could be the people who are simultaneously fascinated with advanced cryptography and inane high-school-level philosophy and political theory?"
      And the answer is quite easy: Lame libertarians who will ask you to work for free.

  • @JoeyShip
    @JoeyShip Год назад +2

    I think the music score to all of these videos is so highly underrated. Seriously cracks me up when the daft music starts during Simons rants and confusion. Hahaha.

  • @Evocatorum
    @Evocatorum 2 года назад +51

    77:45 Simon, there is also the issue that most Tech corporations dealing with encryption in the US work directly with intelligence communities like the NSA whom often require their own backdoors so even if a user were to create a timed package or something, there's probably a master cipher for decryption. The CAKES program, given the timing of the project, specifically had in mind circumventing large scale intelligence agencies, some of which we may not even know exist. Up until the revelation of the PRISM program, people figured it was, at best, rumor but not likely. Turns out, PRISM was the least threatening of the covert programs the US was running. Realistically, anyone knowing how those intelligence agencies function would avoid any encryption system you can get via the internet.
    For reference, there's a small company out there that makes laptops with physical switches that you have to toggle for any component that could collect data (modem, microphones, touchpad, camera). These are intended for the security conscious (or warry) much like someone opening up there cell phone and disconnecting the mic, camera GPS and inserting a switch for the communications systems. Think Enemy of the State but worse.

  • @remiburrell7330
    @remiburrell7330 2 года назад +7

    This is my favorite video done on this channel by far and one of my favorites by Simon ever. The literal decoding of the unknown is so fascinating. I hope we get some more encryption and decryption type stuff in the future

  • @martinkadlec6070
    @martinkadlec6070 2 года назад +23

    More long ones please? Thank you for the hard work team.

  • @jerimiehall
    @jerimiehall Год назад +4

    I love how hard you pretend to not know what MTG is while secretly having a commander deck you've been working on for the last 3 years!

  • @cal-scot
    @cal-scot Год назад +1

    I love the delivery of these videos. Simon being kept in the dark until the script is dropped almost completely deletes the barrier between l337 speaking nerdologic experts and us. The everyday average Joe's, who don't know how to pronounce Cicada either.

  • @dena81
    @dena81 2 года назад +33

    That was actually really enjoyable! Sat through the entire thing and enjoyed it all without my brain turning off 🤣. Kevin is really becoming one of my favorite writers!

    • @ThatWriterKevin
      @ThatWriterKevin 2 года назад +6

      Thanks so much! 💕

    • @jordanr.4150
      @jordanr.4150 2 года назад +2

      100% agreed, plus I like that Kevin’s local to me in MA which may be biasing me a little, but still I think he’s comprable to the O.G. Callum (seriously curious about what happened to him) in terms of balancing humor with the video subject! The ending of the Dark Room Soup episode about not being opposed to murder and reminding Simon that he was American was hands down gold

  • @danielnunez4207
    @danielnunez4207 2 года назад +71

    I’ve been speaking Spanish since the day I was born but it took this British man pronouncing it for me to realize cicada is Latin for “dried” probably refereeing to the dried exoskeletons they leave behind

    • @aimee-lynndonovan6077
      @aimee-lynndonovan6077 2 года назад +2

      Secada, yes it came to mind!

    • @deboroot4722
      @deboroot4722 2 года назад +5

      Been speaking Spanish since the day you were born? This has to be some miracle.

    • @OleDonKedic
      @OleDonKedic 2 года назад +13

      @@deboroot4722 Right? I'm truly impressed. This guy pops out automatically saying "Madre, donde esta El baño?"

    • @bam-skater
      @bam-skater 2 года назад

      It comes from the noise they make....if my internet is to be believed.

    • @bradsanders407
      @bradsanders407 2 года назад

      Dude pops out the womb with "mucho gusto mi llama Daniel"

  • @Petri-
    @Petri- 2 года назад +9

    Giving this ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
    Although I kept waiting for the twist, and thought, maybe this was a heist story. Then I remembered, this wasn’t The Casual Criminalist. 😂
    I need to start paying attention to which channel I’m clicking on so I don’t confuse myself. Lol.

  • @mitzzzu_tigerjones444
    @mitzzzu_tigerjones444 Год назад +2

    7:54
    This is comfort content, so whether a person is tuning in for entertainment or to shake off depression or even just sleep,…
    … you might as well take your time❤

  • @Peoplesuuck
    @Peoplesuuck Год назад +3

    Was very very interesting to listen to. Thanks to Kevin for submitting and cataloging all that information in a digestible manner.

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 2 года назад +9

    6:10 - Chapter 1 - Cicada 3301 (2012)
    26:15 - Chapter 2 - Second chances
    33:00 - Chapter 3 - Cicada 3301 (2013 / The obligatory sequel)
    53:45 - Chapter 4 - There is no truth
    1:01:35 - Chapter 5 - The leaked email
    1:09:00 - Chapter 6 - Liber primus
    1:14:45 - Chapter 7 - There's no I in team
    1:22:05 - Chapter 8 - Cicada 3301 (Post 2014)
    1:24:20 - Chapter 9 - Who is cicada 3301 ?
    1:30:10 - Bonus fact

    • @jonhall2274
      @jonhall2274 2 года назад

      Scrolled through comments looking specifically for your usual timestamps, I think I've said it before on a previous video to that k you for your continuous work.
      If anything but to skip the notoriously annoying mid roll ads.😂🙂
      Though for ones like this, I thank you so I can skip the unnecessary, or parts that I am already knowledgeable of, so again, keep up the good work. You're pretty consistent and I am thankful fornit!🙂🙃

  • @DFSJR1203
    @DFSJR1203 2 года назад +21

    Simon & Kevin, This was one hell of an episode. It was really neat and I only heard of bits and small pieces about this stuff. Right from the beginning of the show I was leaning toward the NSA doing somethings like this. They are always looking for people who are good at cracking sites. Become a hacker and get a job at the NSA should be there moto.

  • @vonniebunny8049
    @vonniebunny8049 2 года назад +14

    This is the best episode of decoding the unknown i've seen so far! I love it. Wow who could've known that a group of teenagers/loners who inhabit 4chan, with too much time on their hands would NOT make an amazing elite team of freedom fighters. Shocking.

    • @ThatWriterKevin
      @ThatWriterKevin 2 года назад +2

      Glad you enjoyed! 💕

    • @bradsanders407
      @bradsanders407 2 года назад

      That's kind of what I was thinking. You start your quest to digitally save society on 4chan? Not as bright as they think they are.

  • @tashigifan
    @tashigifan 2 года назад +1

    In labour and watching this now as advised by Kevin. I'm enjoying it. Thanks Kevin and Simon!

  • @mitchellturnbull3988
    @mitchellturnbull3988 Год назад +1

    Love these long videos. Keep’em coming!

  • @fiction-
    @fiction- 2 года назад +15

    This was really well done, thank you both! I love the long ones too. My theory on the "job": since I've made ARGs in the past I know it wouldn't be that complicated to set up a thing like that and make it appear to be a job, but the other workers are actually members of the creation team (puppet master, as it was called back when I was doing them) It's possible that was another part of the puzzle that team members slowly grew bored of over the course of a year when neither it nor the final rune book had been solved. Though, if it were me, I'd definitely write an alternate path to get the next puzzle if the players couldn't solve it and then reward whoever inevitably solved the original puzzles 6 years down the road.
    But because there isn't actually a story element except what the players speculate on, I doubt it's an ARG. A group of brainy people that got together to do something and grew bored/became tied more to adulting that bled members as time passed? More plausible.

    • @ThatWriterKevin
      @ThatWriterKevin 2 года назад +1

      Thanks! 💕

    • @bradsanders407
      @bradsanders407 2 года назад

      WTF is an ARG?

    • @fiction-
      @fiction- 2 года назад

      @@bradsanders407 It's hard to explain in a limited comment, I suggest you Google it.

  • @nivision
    @nivision 2 года назад +21

    Random unnecessary detail: painting of medieval clothed woman in a boat was The Lady of Shalott by Waterhouse, based on the poem by Tennyson. It's basically about the consequence of seeing something you're not supposed to, put in a romantic setting.

    • @breendart134
      @breendart134 2 года назад +3

      Yay, someone else who recognized her! I have an inexplicable affinity for that poem.

  • @williebauld1007
    @williebauld1007 2 года назад +14

    Love an extended video! Just finished watch the Rostov Ripper video, it was horrific but fantastic

    • @quasarsavage
      @quasarsavage 2 года назад +2

      Love that one 🇷🇺w❤️ lol

  • @MrGino1
    @MrGino1 Год назад

    WoW!? I loved this! thanks for taking the time to do this long ass video.
    Great detail and i really wanted to know how this whoooole thing played out.

  • @musingmuse9064
    @musingmuse9064 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you 'simple' Simon and your brilliant writer and the editor; watched this video from start to finish!

  • @CrazySC833
    @CrazySC833 2 года назад +20

    Watching Simon in the wild is absolutely hilarious. I am a BIG fan of Biographics and all of the other channels he hosts and I IMMEDIATELY subscribed once I learned this was a new series. Love Simon in the wild lol. I would love to have Simon read my eulogy should I meet an untimely early demise lol.

    • @ShenWulong98
      @ShenWulong98 Год назад +1

      I’d have him read mines while sprinkling allegedly throughout lmao

  • @sirlister1856
    @sirlister1856 2 года назад +10

    Dammit, here I'm sitting 30 minutes in thinking they've mentioned onions and layers so much I'm shocked they haven't made a Shrek pun!
    47 minutes in and there it is! 😂

  • @sarahallegra6239
    @sarahallegra6239 2 года назад +8

    This was absolutely fascinating and by far the best video I’ve seen about the group. Thanks to everyone for your time and dedication in making it happen!

  • @iandavidson1
    @iandavidson1 Год назад

    I so happy to find your channel Simon. Thanks for the wonder post 👍

  • @marcuscowles3384
    @marcuscowles3384 Год назад

    Next level video (reading) and i LOVE how self deprecating you are, its entirely humbling and very amusing, thank you!

  • @GrievousReborn
    @GrievousReborn 2 года назад +15

    I enjoy learning about your writers through their little anecdotes

  • @rebeccathistle5359
    @rebeccathistle5359 2 года назад +5

    Simon I don’t know how you made it through this episode. Just listening to it required me to take a break to catch my breath. This is a lot. Thank you for your service to our entertainment and education!

  • @antoniosarmaou6177
    @antoniosarmaou6177 2 года назад +7

    Just listened to this podcast and I had to see the clues also, so I'm here! Well done Kevin & Simon. Amazing work.

  • @judithann7193
    @judithann7193 Год назад

    I Loved that. Long format makes for much more interesting topics!

  • @owennoad-watson2820
    @owennoad-watson2820 2 года назад +1

    The puzzle is finally solved. A final dark web link appears. It opens. Another coded mp3. "Trollolololoooool"

  • @nick-314
    @nick-314 2 года назад +17

    The amount of times where hes like "what is x?" And IMMEDIATELY reads "if you dont know what x is..." was hilarious lol. I'm glad he went into this blind, it was a fun journey to experience and not just curated like other channels would with this type of stuff

  • @wolfsangel6334
    @wolfsangel6334 2 года назад +14

    Thank you Simon, Kevin, and Jen. I truly enjoy the episodes you put together and appreciate all of your hard work. One thing Simon, the page you showed where you said it looks like a made up language. In reality it is Runic. Yes it is a dead language these days. And most people have 0 clue about it. It was used by the vikings way back in the day. And yes you all are correct on there really isn't an easy way to translate it. It doesn't substitute Runic characters for our letters. And some Runic characters can represent more than one letter or sound. I greatly enjoy the mysteries. Thank you all again.

    • @ThatWriterKevin
      @ThatWriterKevin 2 года назад +1

      Thanks! 💕

    • @alwayscensored6871
      @alwayscensored6871 2 года назад

      I only just recently found out as well as Celtic and Viking runes the Russ also had runes. The Russ are the Old Russian Vikings.

  • @BigWolfChris
    @BigWolfChris 2 года назад +6

    I love Simon's random tangents, never change mate!

  • @Robustacap
    @Robustacap 2 года назад +1

    You're doing something amazing as I am willing to watch this length of a video of something I think I knew, yet always you seem to dig a bit deeper and I always learn some little tid bit all the other videos of the same subject miss. While entertained.

  • @swagrighttoni
    @swagrighttoni Год назад +4

    Kevin is your best writer honestly I love all of his episodes he gets the best tangent content out of Simon 😂

  • @pucknorris3473
    @pucknorris3473 2 года назад +4

    This is my first episode of decoding the unknown I am an OG BB... But I think I first started with top tens and biographics... anyways I find this experience more reserved with you sitting down something about you being on your feet on The Blaze gets you hype af, AM I RIGHT PETER??!!
    Anyways I just wanted to say something while there were still only 50 comments so you might see it LOL, I dig your work Fact Boi...from florida with love.

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela 2 года назад +5

    This is the best video I've seen about this.
    ISOs are very much still used. Installing operating systems, the Raspberry Pi being a very good example.

  • @fulee9999
    @fulee9999 2 года назад +6

    awesome script Kevin! props to Jen and Simon as well for this beast of an episode, I enjoyed it

  • @starwyvern010
    @starwyvern010 2 года назад

    I've watched a few videos about this, but I learned far more from yours than I had before! Especially that there was a pretty credible leak about their site/forum etc. Very cool.

  • @TheHexCube
    @TheHexCube 2 года назад

    Absolute Gold. Please do more 'long ones'!, and thank you so much Simon, your marathon has been truly appreciated by so many. Also, personally, I prefer it when you speak less rushed, and keep voice volume/intonations more level as in this upload.

    • @rockwilder1071
      @rockwilder1071 Год назад +1

      I got a long one for you

    • @TheHexCube
      @TheHexCube Год назад

      @@rockwilder1071 Haha! For sure..❤❤❤

    • @TheHexCube
      @TheHexCube Год назад

      @@rockwilder1071 i'd prefer a girl with a tight one though. Thanks for the offer, you gent.

  • @amandajones661
    @amandajones661 2 года назад +6

    I'm just going to say I LOVE Jen's editing! She's amazing!

  • @GeoffBosco
    @GeoffBosco 2 года назад +10

    Here’s how a midi file works: as Simon got the first part mostly right, it’s just information about pitch and rhythm to play for each midi track. This information would then be read by your hardware (typically your pc but this also applies to video game console hardware) which is acting as the synthesizer. In other words, your PC is the “synthesizer” producing the sounds and the midi file is just the “fingers” telling the keys what to play-which hardly uses up any memory.

    • @nw42
      @nw42 Год назад +3

      To elaborate slightly: MIDI was created in 1981 and wasn’t really for audio files as we think of them today (in fact, PCs capable of halfway decent audio wouldn’t exist for another decade.) MIDI was created as a means for electronic musical instruments to interoperate with each other, so the reason it only contains minimal data like a note’s pitch & velocity is because that’s the only data you really _need_ if you’re connecting like a keyboard and a guitar and a synth together.
      What’s cool about MIDI is that, because you’re just receiving data about the notes, you can edit & arrange MIDI files basically like you would sheet music. And you can swap different “voices” to translate those notes into different sounds, so you can take a performance on a keyboard and make it sound like an organ or a guitar or whatever.
      When PC audio finally started getting good enough that people might actually want to hear it, MIDI was pretty much the choice. Musicians with high-end PCs wanted to use MIDI for its intended purpose, and its small file sizes made it one of the first practical audio formats for things like videogames.

  • @stevenotto1456
    @stevenotto1456 2 года назад +4

    I understand they're hard to make, but I love the long ones (BOOM! PHRASING!). I also love the internet mysteries. Please do more.

  • @zvxcvxcz
    @zvxcvxcz Год назад +4

    At least Simon knows the difference between a forward slash and a backslash. That makes him more literate than at least 99% of presenters.

  • @666_cthulhu
    @666_cthulhu Год назад +1

    that message for the winners weirdly gave me V for Vendetta energy but i think that’s just because of Simon’s accent-
    anyway great video! i’ve been wondering what the name “Cicada 3301” referred to ever since i first heard it (by which i mean i didn’t even know if it was a real puzzle, a conspiracy theory, an ARG, or something else entirely), but this video included plenty of detail so that even an internet rando like me could figure it out. bravo to all of you for the work you put into this absolute beast Xx

  • @KryssLaBryn
    @KryssLaBryn 2 года назад +20

    You know which group this really reminds me of? That group of, it ended up, rich people who decided to have these mysterious metal columns constructed and set up somewhere out in the desert, with the wisdom of the ages engraved upon them in several languages, to guide humanity in a post-apocalyptic future to rebuild a utopian society.
    Except they couldn't agree on what the message should be, so they basically each took a column, and said their own thing, and most of it was super obvious and/or super trite, and none of it would in any way be useful to rebuild society (or practical in any way at all, really; certainly nothing about germs, or what killed them, or how to make a microscope or telescope or anaesthetic or anything), mostly because they were a bunch of wankers lol.
    Sorry if I'm being a bit incoherent; it's late here and I don't remember much else about it offhand. But I'm pretty sure it was another of Simon's videos; might even have been this channel.
    In any case, something about the flavor of Cicada feels similar, if you know what I mean? Maybe it's the pretentious surface, but underneath it's all a bit shit really, that's reminding me so much of them haha.
    Be funny if it *was* them lol.

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 2 года назад +1

      Just 4chan trolls. The fact they openly advertised it as a recruitment, kinda invalidates it, from the get.

  • @cynthiasimpson931
    @cynthiasimpson931 2 года назад +5

    Back when my husband was still in the Air Force he got the job of completely redoing the medical lab's data base. The data base had just been upgraded, but the upgrade had been done by people who knew nothing about medical lab tests, so he got the job of untangling everything. He actually enjoyed the work, but he told me some stories of things he'd had to undo that were truly mind-boggling, like labeling tests as for males only that were actually for females only, and so on.

    • @MolloyPolloy
      @MolloyPolloy 2 года назад +1

      Some people are extraordinarily smart. I love meeting them as long as they're patient! I met a guy at a wedding s few years back that worked in CERN. My mind was blown talking to him. Less sports stars, more smarts stars please. 😁👍

  • @TJForceIX
    @TJForceIX 2 года назад +30

    It really shows how he's the reader and not the writer when Simon describes Norse runes as like a constructed language for a tv show. (:

    • @shawnferguson5681
      @shawnferguson5681 Год назад +1

      Yeah,I thought that was funny , too. He’s familiar with so many things, how can he not recognize runes? Nobody knows everything, I guess, obviously.

  • @Kinster2
    @Kinster2 Год назад

    Thank you for doing long videos! I also appreciate your tangents

  • @isaks3243
    @isaks3243 Год назад +1

    sorry simon but Kevin, please do more long ones!
    this one was great and with new information that I haven't gotten the last time I was looking into 3301 wich was back in 2018.

  • @michaelpipkin9942
    @michaelpipkin9942 2 года назад +19

    Cracking the Code: How many channels does Simon have?

    • @TJDious
      @TJDious 2 года назад +3

      69

    • @biofoot7874
      @biofoot7874 2 года назад

      @@TJDious if that is Simon's endgame, I respect the hell of it

    • @MyPantsAreSassy
      @MyPantsAreSassy 3 месяца назад

      @@TJDious- May I just say….. Nice.
      (2 years after the fact)

  • @mitchellkemmis9705
    @mitchellkemmis9705 2 года назад +5

    Man the long ones are amazing! Thankyou Kevin for all your hard work!!

  • @KristieMJM
    @KristieMJM 2 года назад +8

    Thank you for making my monday night not so boring. Kevin, can you make more long form series please? Thank you

    • @ThatWriterKevin
      @ThatWriterKevin 2 года назад +1

      I just need another mystery of this caliber!

    • @rockwilder1071
      @rockwilder1071 Год назад

      God made a long one and gave it to me. For you

  • @stephenrenwick8781
    @stephenrenwick8781 2 года назад +1

    Great video...loved it.

  • @oldfatman4639
    @oldfatman4639 2 года назад +1

    I finally got around to this one. Excellent! More, longer (that's what she said) content, please.