Quran: There is only 1 God Modernist Schalar: well that was old interpretation, in our modern time we live with many faith's people, there are many religion, many don't even believe in God, so there is clear conflict. We also have to look into the word "god", there are many meaning of God, in quran it also said, they made their desire as their God, so you can see meaning of god used differently, so we can't say for sure god is really one, also sheikh modernist fulfula said if someone find peace believing & worshipping more than 1 god its perfectly fine. Gullible Follower's of these Modernist: awww, Schalar is soo knowledgeable, those old scholars were so mean to polythest, whereas quran wasnt. i could hear all day your gems. enlighten us more Schalar
Allah swt is the most merciful and most forgiving may Allah swt guide to Islam and forgive all you sins make you go jannat al firadus highest rank of heaven and you family and friends as well may Allah swt guide them both and you aswell Ameen❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
First time I saw dr Shabbir Ali's style of interpretation of Quran that touched my heart. Alhamdulillah. Mr. Ghulam Ahmad Pervez was the man of highest intellect who understood real meaning of Quran and helped us to understand it in approximate way. Anyway thanks Dr. Sb. Keep it up ❤️
I respect Shabir Ally. He's honest and doesn't side step issues. But I really feel for him as he's desperately twisting in the wind here without improving the situation greatly. Unfortunately this verse remains highly problematic for Muslims in this day and age, no matter how one spins it.
Its amazing that this 'divine book' that claims to be easy to understand requires years of learning ancient Arabic. Not really for all times and places and people.
So you hold the opinion that the verse that mentions "the place where the sun sets" in surah kahf is using a figure of speech. But here you've decided that there's no room for reinterpretation. Then you claim that this doesn't improve the situation. Really? In this video, Shabir Ally is saying that the rules for dealing with lewdness are the same for men and women. He says that 'nushuz' is not disobedience but rather sexual impropriety. He says that the consequences for "'nushuz" are supposed to be doled out by the community as opposed to the husband, thereby eliminating the possibility of domestic abuse and violence. And you think this is not an improvement? Maybe your problem is with the suggestion that corporal punishment is prescribed here. If you dig a little deeper, you'll note that Dr. Ally has stated that such punishment is no longer practical or applicable. So how is this not improving the situation?
@@r9nger I take your point and edited my comment. I agree it is an improvement. Though sadly an improvement from a very low starting point. "Corporal punishment" (hitting people) is not an acceptable method of dealing with "lewdness" whether by the state or individuals.
great? please tell us how it fits with 4:35 which says "if you (plural) fear a rift between them two then appoint an arbiter from his family and hers... if they both wish to reconcile", who is reconciling? the prostitute and her customer?!!
@@info786 He gave the example of prostitute. But if someone's wife is doing that then they need arbiter. So basically 4:35 is talking about husband and wife situation. And if the women is unmarried then the last stage for her was 100 lashes but In the case of wife she will get the lashes and after that there should be arbiter who will take decision on her marriage whether her husband wants to continue with her or not.
Yes Sir mental gymnastics in simple English is called pondering by using the God given abilities that we all should do and come out of mental laziness because if we don’t use it we lose it
I love this show a lot, Dr.Ally takes such a pragmatic and logical take of the Qu’ran. Especially he takes consideration of the historical context to his oral lessons!
It's many many times, at least 7 times, verses in Quran ends with "Inna fi zalika la ayatun liqoumin YATAFAKKARUN" means, all we mentioned "in the past verses" it contents signs for people who do think, This is a clear indication that we must not just pickup words from Quran and apply them practically, but it's our duty to completely analyze each n every word of the Quran at first, before it's finally implemented.
Nushuz is any harmful gesture, word, action delivered to the spouse. If a woman hurls vulgar words at her husband, she has committed nushuz, if a man beats up his wife, he has also committed nushuz. Nushuz is the Quranic term for marital abuse sin.
I just came across some bigoted people on Twitter talking about these verses and trying to belittle the holy Quran and it immediately reminded me of this playlist. I did watch the three videos in this playlist and I must say I'm really satisfied by the interpretation Dr Shabbir Ali. This video and the interpretation by classical scholars also reminded me a other video uploaded by you people which said if a verse's implementation didn't appear to be beautiful on the ground then it isn't Islam and I couldn't help but think about this. I think maybe yes we do need to rethink about this specific verse to understand the other interpretation that can have been possible. Thank-you for making this informative video, totally satisfied and convinced. May Allah bless you and the whole team and guide you all towards the right path which will help us all too. Thank-you once again. 😇
Shabbir Aly is my most favourite scholar. I hope he will clarify some further doubt. 1. V4:35 seems to be a clear household dispute. How does it fit in this context? 2. Why are we taking fahisha (v4:15) and nushuz (v4:34) as synonyms where God used separate terms? 3. Why are we taking "forsake bed" and "house arrest" synonymously?
4:34 says... If you fear nushuz, do this and this. 4:35 says, AND if you fear dispute between husband and wife, do this and this. In both verses, it is the same YOU, and that cannot be husband for sure in 4:35, rather, that must be the authority. 2. Yes, both these are separate words, but he said that the context suggests that here Nushuz means immoral sexual behaviour. Besides, there is a hadith where our prophet is reported to have replaced the word nushuz with بفاحشۃ مبینہ ۔ For example, read Tirmidhi hadith 1163. 3. In 3:154, the word مضاجع is used as place of prison by many translators of Quran. Dr. Shabir is connecting this verse with 4:115, where it is mentioned that if women commit فاحشۃ مبینہ، imprison them in there homes and 4:34 he is translating it as, take them out their prison and beat them. Again, this order can only be issued and carried out by the authority.
As always Dr Shabir's explanation is well thought out and very logical. Though I have a slight issue with citing 4:128 as the male equivalent to 4:34 - because only one of them specifies an actual punishment (on the women) for what is supposedly the same indiscretion. While of course you can point to the lashing verse as the reference to what the penalty is for men - the question remains, why reiterate the same punishment for women in the female nushuz verse, but not for its (supposedly) equivalent male verse?
Exactly my question as well, since we did consider the verse to refer to the muslim community as a whole, it seems like an incorrect assumption since a similar form of verse referring specifically to females is given later in the surah, which means the prior verse wasn't for the muslim community but rather the men of the community. This would bring us back to square one with the argument.
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The phrase was reinterpreted to mean house arrest. It seems that Quran uses a phrase whose meaning changes depending on context. So the phrase in the context of a marriage means separate from each other in the bed. But the same phrase used in the context of the law and an individual means separate the person from society (I e. Prison or house arrest).
مضاجع Translated as beds in this verse is also used in 3:154 and there it is translated as "place of slaughter" "place of sleep" . It does not necessarily mean bed.
One confusion, why didn't 4:128 suggests the same procedure for Men if they commit Nushuz? If it's about Authority then they can step in n do the same , why reconciliation in case of men? Although 4:15 suggests punishment for Men as well but in case of Nushuz there's no mentioning of such physical punishment
Because the other verse and Dr. Ally explained it before: If you apply the same 3 things, and let's say the advice doesn't work, so now you go to step 2 and place the husband under house arrest, and he is the only person with an income - then that will be even worse for the family.
@@sHuRuLuNiso men can be placed on house arrest also if the women are working? Allah must mean both husband and wife should be working then, so that there can be fairness.
Masha Allah you are truly a blessing on the Muslim ummah Dr Shabir. I love the way you go into detail and clearly explain your thoughts on subjects you have really helped me and my wife with understanding the Quran and Ahadith. I pray the Almighty keeps you, your family , your staff and your viewers safe and keeps us all on the righteous path.
This was extremely insightful and is evidence that if that Qur'an by itself is used to explain and elucidate itself (without external sources and influences), our personal and societal bias can be identified and eliminated from exegesis.
I didnt quite understand that.. If a man fears nushuz, the whole community steps in and puts the woman under house arrest and then beats her but if a woman fears nushuz she makes peace with the husband? Wheres his punishment.. ? PS And the Quran is just. Its the explanation he's giving that I don't understand...
I come to Dr Shabir Ally for all my questions. And he never disappoints. He gives sincere logical and educated advice. May Allah SWT bless him for his efforts and guide us on the right path.
"In our context" presumably meaning under non-muslim secular Government. Or is it also means under muslims Government? And I very much like the way Dr. Shabbir's explanation. First I thought dr. didn't explain the "leave their bed" part, but after listening further I say to myself I am under qualified before Dr. Shabbir.
Several years ago i beat my wife which led to the breakage of the marriage. I was angry and couldn't control my anger. It was a shame and i strongly apologized. Though i didn't beat her because i think the Quran said so, nevertheless i ponder over this verse and was forced to question myself as follows: If the Qur'an actually addressed the man to beat his wife, would he be fair in his execution of this punishment considering that most likely he would be in a state of anger at this time. Therefore his interpretation the verse id not addressing men makes sense. There is no other interpretation
My friend in high school used to arrive to school with bruises sometimes. I was uncomfortable talking about it because I didn’t want to embarrass her, but I had some idea that the perpetrator was one of her brothers who had long beard, wore a long robe and flaunted his piety to everyone... while her other 3 brothers were kind and gentle with her, except they weren’t the religious type. Unfortunately some of these so called Muslim men think it is their God given right to abuse and humiliate their women in order to keep them ‘in line,’ and they’re the ones who ironically have the ‘look.’ I realized I was right about which brother used to beat her because she left her home one day and came crying to my house. He was manipulative enough to convince their father to beat her too. My point is, a lot of this chauvinistic and abusive attitude of men stem from problematic hadiths and polluted interpretations of the Quran.
Seems to me that God will not/cannot be ossified by interpretation of man. Old School meets New School! But what do I know! God is wonder-filled, this much I do know! Always interesting! 💞
He mentioned it. It is mentioned in verse 4:14-16. In 4:129, he said that there is difference between a man comitting nushuz and only his wife knows it. In that case, the wife can wither advise her husband or leave her, but if the case is presented to the court, then men will face the same punishment as women do.
JazakAllahu khair Dr. Shabir Ally. This is the best interpretation of the verse. This question of beating wife was plaguing me for a good amount of time. You've explained it well. Alhamdulillah.
There are a lot of verses that have not been made clear as it is a rest for us. If the prophet didn’t translate it to make it more clear I think we should treat it like Alif Lam Meem-Allah knows best and let’s leave it at that, instead of playing the guessing game. Many abusive men will use these classical sources to justify hitting a woman! Fear Allah and follow the sunnah of the prophet.
5:09 ......20:17 21:------------- Leave from bed / home stay So if it refers to a community then what is the meaning for that leave them in their bed part? How did it suddenly became house arrest 😅i'm trying to understand but this was a lot of information and i couldn't comprehend. Anyway i know profet(s) never hit his wifes and he is the perfect example for muslims so that doesn't worries me. I just want to know what this verse actually says
Which hadith? There's numerous Hadith of the prophet that he never laid a finger on anyone mem or women, and when he fought with his wives he slept at the mosque other hadith when he said the best among u is the best to his family , he also said there's no goodness in a men who lay a finger on his wife, n way more, u can look it up
During the last adress of the prophet, he is reported to have said If your women invite some stranger to their beds, advise them, leave them in their homes and beat them The prophet also explained the word Nushuz as " inviting someone to their bed" i e adultry. And there is a difference between mashoor hadith, that is, a saying of prophet in public gathering and ahad hadith ( a saying of prophet to one person ). So yes, there are some ahadith which say that prophet allowed husbands to beat their wives, but the most authentic and authoritative perscribe this punishment only for those women who comit adultry.
Its not beating but the verse rather tells man to control anger and not to physically abuse her wife and rather lightly attract her attention towards the marriage which is crumbling due to her as a woman is the foundation of the house and family
The marriage is crumbling due to her as a woman u mean, bc she being the foundation of the house and family is a completely different subject. And if women were the “foundation,” why is the man given complete and utter control of the women? Maybe the marriage is crumbling bc mhamed perverted the real meaning of marriage, which is one man, one woman, both under God! Who enjoys sharing their bed w 3 other women?! 🙄
@@temporaryaccount5307 if the man is a pervert then thats a separate case where the woman will approach the court and action will be enacted against him Also a woman is the foundation of a family , it is she who stiches the family together. The verse deals with a situation where the woman is showing lewdness and perversion and not the woman
@@temporaryaccount5307 also a man is not the dictator of the family but rather the head of the family who is supposed to provide for the family and protect the family from threats and dangers And a woman completes the man as hadiths tell that a man and a woman compliments and completes each other
@@zairnaim93 Do you think that a true believer describes a verse as problematic!? For a while, he was questioning the authentic hadiths on the grounds that they are Zani not like the Qur’an, which is qatei'i. Here he is now moved to the second step to question the Qur'an itself!
@@bf6724 I think you are letting your personal dislike of him read into his words in a negative way to suggest things he isn't actually saying. Questioning something to better understand it is very different to doubting its truthfulness. No where is he saying the Qur'an is wrong
@@something-fj7oi Ijtihad to describe the Quranic verse as problematic! and try to give it another meaning when you know perfectly well that it is not the real meaning! at the same time completely ignoring the teachings of the Prophet!!! In all the three episodes I did not hear him not once quoted one saying of the Prophet (pbuh), but he paradoxically cited a book titled Feminist ...(Somethin)!
@@zairnaim93 First. To interpret the Qur'anic text there are important rules for doing so and this is definitely not the right way. Second. His primary motive is not an attempt to reach the true meaning, but an attempt to please the society in which he lives. Did you not see that the meaning of his words revolves around his acknowledgment that all commentators agree on a certain meaning, but this meaning is no longer valid for this society and he has to invent a new meaning that is accepted by the society in which he lives! Do you think that you have to look for another meaning of the Quranic verse just because the society in which you live does not like the ruling! Perhaps after the next hundred years, there will be people with a different mentality who will accept that the wife beats the husband, then Dr. Shabeer (second version) will intervene to find for them another explanation that matches their desire!!
Essentially living in the modern world surrounded by post enlightenment philosophy this imam is reframing the texts to try and make them more compatible with Western values. He would not need to do this if the quran was good for all times and places.
He would not need to reinterpret this verse had it been interpreted properly. Had it been interpreted properly, it would have been compatible for all times. I think his interpretation is accurate. notice that there has been several attempts to interpret the verse but all didn't make sense except his interpretation
My dear friend, sheikh is exclusively using the Quran to explain the Quran itself . He’s not making up anything new. Everything makes totally sense if only you were to understand Arabic
@@pointservicephone1049 the quran says it is easy to understand, but it seems to take a lifetime to understand it. How so? Surely a god can write clear instructions?
@@RichardEnglander The qur'an is clear. It also said there are verses which are clear and verses which are unclear. This specific verse in question to me is clear. The early interpreters failed to realized that it is not addressing men at all. There is no mention of 'O you men'
@ around 14 minutes Shabirs daughter asks about the punishment for men who conduct sexual impropriety, My question is what was supposed to be done with the Prophet when he engaged in **x with the slave woman in one of his wives s bed? Do all of the punishments apply to all "MEN and women" equally or are there exceptions? And Shabir talks about marraige with slave women, I would be interested in the source which tells Muslims that they need to "marry" slave woman inorder to you know conduct R**e.
Copied: These intellectual gymnastics are downright embarassing. Isn't it amazing that some verses are to be taken 100% literally but others require so much scraping of the bottom of the barrell of reason. Somehow one never finds native Arabic speakers trying to explain away this verse like this. I wonder why. If one goes by the axiom, "If a bucketful is haram then a spoonful is haram", then the converse also applies: "If a small bit of it is prima facie toxic rubbish, then all of it cannot be considered wholesome without facile intellectual overreach".
Salam Dr Shabbir. That's an impeccably logical, objective, and observational interpretation corroborated by numerous linguistic, philological, and rationalistic evidence from the Quranic commandments, exegetical gloss, the historical critical empiricism and miscellaneous modern methodologies to entail objectivity in the authentication and contextualization of hadith literature with its objective reconciliation with the progressive Qur'anic commandment. This empirical and perspicacious position is held by numerous scholars such as Dr Javad T Hashmi, Dr Khalil Andani, Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl, Dr Professor Saqib Hussain, Shaykh Al Islam Muhammad Al Tahir ibn Ashur,Dr Abla Hassan, Maysuma Al Faruqi, Ghulam Ahmad Parvez and you. Certain intellectual subservient and ideologically molested critics like Radwan are vaingloriously ignorant of the profundity of the rationalistic, linguistic, philological, philosophical, scriptural, and exegetical evidentiary articulation consolidated through rigorous historical critical empiricism of rhe aforementioned scholars due to his negligence of the hyper-fideistic, sectarianistically and politically malfeasant, intellectually regressive medieval juristic tradition, which is why these prejudiced critics blame the supra-confessional primordial faith of sycophancy towards feminism. God bless you for your efforts.
I like the classical interpretation and I don't see any problematic about that , but Dr Shabir's interpretation is way better than other modern interpretations. Good work.
Best interpretation. Why would God want a dysfunctional family in the first place? If I beat my wife she will not magically start obeying me. She would at least try to kill me :P The classic interpretation solves nothing.
Because you find one thing you think doesn’t apply to your particular circumstance, clearly there isn’t ANYTHING at all about human nature and the human condition that has stayed the same , right??🙄
Finally satisfied!!!But I've a question that there is no mentioning of wife, husband n spouse in 34 rather Allah is addressing authority!! so how it's suddenly came in 35th?? Mean why to think only about wife?? We are caretakers of our mother, sisters n daughters too so they also can commit nashuz, N in today's world police will warned n advice them.... So I didn't understand why Allah suddenly address spouse n divorce
It's a good sign if someone like him trying to make quran and hadith compatible to modern humanity, otherwise the banning of quran by the entire non Muslim world is inevitable.
So. If Allah is all powerful, always correct, and does not support beating wives. Why could Allah's word not be clearer, and take so long until the modern age to be interpreted in a more ethical way. Why doesn't Allah use the ability to simply place the exact concepts of best morality in people's heads from the start?
Sheikh your waffling the Quran is clear. Please stop trying to change the words of Allah. Weather you like it or not there verses are there. And Allah knows who transgresses his Laws. Allah the knows best the most high the most magnificent. .
The Quran emphatically states that it is a clear scripture, Alif Lam Ra. A Book whose verses are set clear, and then distinguished, from One All-wise, All-aware: S. 11:1 A book that fully and clearly explains everything, . Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (The Qur'an), explained in detail. S. 6:114 Hilali-Khan . And We have sent down on thee the Book making clear everything, and as a guidance and a mercy, and as good tidings to those who surrender. S. 16:89 Arberry A Book whereof the Verses are explained in detail; A Qur'an in Arabic for people who know S. 41:3 Hilali-Khan So why is this guy having to try so hard to understand?
Quran: There is only 1 God Modernist Schalar: well that was old interpretation, in our modern time we live with many faith's people, there are many religion, many don't even believe in God, so there is clear conflict. We also have to look into the word "god", there are many meaning of God, in quran it also said, they made their desire as their God, so you can see meaning of god used differently, so we can't say for sure god is really one, also sheikh modernist fulfula said if someone find peace believing & worshipping more than 1 god its perfectly fine. Gullible Follower's of these Modernist: awww, Schalar is soo knowledgeable, those old scholars were so mean to polythest, whereas quran wasnt. i could hear all day your gems. enlighten us more Schalar
And we can continue to see those people who have always wanted to twist religion to justify misogyny & abuse against women lose their mind when their claims are refuted with precise language of Quran alone like you seem to have lost it by making nonsensical comments about something that has never happened
Hmm..I wonder if you both understand Aramaic the language of the Nabateans, Dravidian or Sanskrit or simply Arabic diacritics...poor Safiyyah...reminds me...
Finally, after 1400 years, we know the meaning of duraba. It means embrace your wife in love so that she realises the wrongs of her way and comes back to her good senses. Way to go, Ally family.
u don’t find a problem w “Finally after 1400 yrs we know the meaning of...”? What ever did the ppl of the past 1400 yrs think it meant?! And when it’s said “so she realizes the wrongs of her way...,” u mean when she realizes YOUR way, the man’s way, is right? As a woman, I loathe Islam’s perverted perception of females.
Doctor, you need to do justice towards yourself by not inclining to your prejudices and biases while interpreting Qura'an. It was already interpreted to us by our beloved Prophet sallallahu alaihivasallam. Don't you feel that you are doing harm than service while suggesting hiddenly that the Prophet sallallahu alaihivasallam failed miserably in his purpose. Seek refuge in Allah.
Even if you consider that hadith to be authentic, the prophet interpreted almost in the same way. On the day of Hijatul wida, the prophet is reported to have said " If you women invite some stranger to their beds, advise them, leave them in their place of dwelling and beat them" The prophet also explained the word Nushuz as inviting some person to their beds ( i e adultry ).
What a great performance of mental gymnastics!! A five year old could destroy his position and yet this woman wants to believe so badly, that her religion is not misogynistic and barbaric that she plays along. How is it that otherwise intelligent people take a stupid pill when it comes to religion?
The very problem w all of Islam is in the title: INTERPRETATION! Not only does each have their own, despite being unqualified, per Ally, but it continues to change w time. So much for “clear and concise” 🤪 At least he admitted the Quran is NOT “PERFECTLY PRESERVED DOWN TO THE DOT AND LETTER!” That’s way more than any other mzm would publicly admit!
U seem a bit obsessed ,this is like the third or foth comment of urs on this vid alone, I'm sure u have other important things to do in ur life since u apparently lack critical thinking of ur own and ur heart is filed with hate i reccomend a few therapy sessions, I hope that helps, have a nice day
Because there were no dots on letters in the text of classical times but the verses remain the same. In other words, Quran is the ONLY scripture that has been perfectly preserved today. Hope that helps.
@@ferielmini I’m obsessed bc I periodically comment here? What’s that say for the mzms who come to the Christian channels and comment the same dumb questions day after day after having already received answers 1000xs? I bet they’re not “obsessed” tho are they? 🙄 U are under no obligation to pay attention to me (altho u are under obligation to commit Jihad.) Isnt that the 6th pillar of Islam? 🌙👿
Three videos to explain away the obvious sexism of one verse? Why don't you just accept the truth, which is that the Quran condones and orders its adherents to engage in obviously immoral behavior. No man has ever been spoken to by a god or an angel.
@@Hamza000h u have ZERO PROOF OR EVIDENCE that any angel spoke w mhamed and that angel is “gabriel!” I suggest u stop watching videos and start thinking before u speak.
@@temporaryaccount5307 And you have no evidence that God goes around having babies and has 3 split personalities like a schizophrenic. Go and eat flesh of your God, you seem hungry.
There can only be one God, not three or three but one, or it's not one but three, or three equals one, or sometimes one sometimes three, or no, no, no not three it's actually one...and on and on and on....
@@zedmelor8842 yea, exactly 💯, why this Bible bangers don't go to worship a man in 3 and 3 in one whatever that even means and let Muslims discuss their book.
@@ferielmini Spend some time and read your texts again, clearly, you have not bothered with the Tafseer, and instead got conditioned by the Shaiyk at the Masjid.
@@ppevideos8627 r u okay?? I read the Quran daily, in ARABIC as it's my first language, there's literally no chapter or verse about the prophets commiting adultery with a maid! Or anyone for that matter 😭 why r u so loud for someone so wrong, go ahead, give me the Quranic chapter you're talking abt
@@ferielmini Clearly you don't read it with attention then. I will not do the work for you. You can find it yourself and then hold your head in shame, a native Arab speaker.
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Quran: There is only 1 God
Modernist Schalar: well that was old interpretation, in our modern time we live with many faith's people, there are many religion, many don't even believe in God, so there is clear conflict. We also have to look into the word "god", there are many meaning of God, in quran it also said, they made their desire as their God, so you can see meaning of god used differently, so we can't say for sure god is really one, also sheikh modernist fulfula said if someone find peace believing & worshipping more than 1 god its perfectly fine.
Gullible Follower's of these Modernist: awww, Schalar is soo knowledgeable, those old scholars were so mean to polythest, whereas quran wasnt. i could hear all day your gems. enlighten us more Schalar
Allah swt is the most merciful and most forgiving may Allah swt guide to Islam and forgive all you sins make you go jannat al firadus highest rank of heaven and you family and friends as well may Allah swt guide them both and you aswell Ameen❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@CaliphForCaliphatethere no God expect allah swt
I am so unsatisfied by his answer.
Safiya ,make the session longer,we want to hear more of Dr Shabir,otherwise we need part 4🤣🤣
Agreed
You want to hear bullshits from this lier?
First time I saw dr Shabbir Ali's style of interpretation of Quran that touched my heart. Alhamdulillah. Mr. Ghulam Ahmad Pervez was the man of highest intellect who understood real meaning of Quran and helped us to understand it in approximate way. Anyway thanks Dr. Sb. Keep it up ❤️
I respect Shabir Ally. He's honest and doesn't side step issues. But I really feel for him as he's desperately twisting in the wind here without improving the situation greatly. Unfortunately this verse remains highly problematic for Muslims in this day and age, no matter how one spins it.
Its amazing that this 'divine book' that claims to be easy to understand requires years of learning ancient Arabic.
Not really for all times and places and people.
So you hold the opinion that the verse that mentions "the place where the sun sets" in surah kahf is using a figure of speech. But here you've decided that there's no room for reinterpretation. Then you claim that this doesn't improve the situation. Really? In this video, Shabir Ally is saying that the rules for dealing with lewdness are the same for men and women. He says that 'nushuz' is not disobedience but rather sexual impropriety. He says that the consequences for "'nushuz" are supposed to be doled out by the community as opposed to the husband, thereby eliminating the possibility of domestic abuse and violence. And you think this is not an improvement? Maybe your problem is with the suggestion that corporal punishment is prescribed here. If you dig a little deeper, you'll note that Dr. Ally has stated that such punishment is no longer practical or applicable. So how is this not improving the situation?
Shabir interprets things which he feels best about.
@@r9nger I take your point and edited my comment. I agree it is an improvement. Though sadly an improvement from a very low starting point. "Corporal punishment" (hitting people) is not an acceptable method of dealing with "lewdness" whether by the state or individuals.
@@HassanRadwan133 agreed 100%. Never was, never will be. God bless you (whatever that means).
Not good enough. You keep skirting the fact as to why only women has to conform to man’s wishes or his perception.
Fir man step 1 and 3 are done
That was a great interpretation.
Now we need a video about corporal punishment in general :)
great? please tell us how it fits with 4:35 which says "if you (plural) fear a rift between them two then appoint an arbiter from his family and hers... if they both wish to reconcile", who is reconciling? the prostitute and her customer?!!
@@info786 the husband and wife
@@info786 He gave the example of prostitute. But if someone's wife is doing that then they need arbiter. So basically 4:35 is talking about husband and wife situation. And if the women is unmarried then the last stage for her was 100 lashes but In the case of wife she will get the lashes and after that there should be arbiter who will take decision on her marriage whether her husband wants to continue with her or not.
@@info786 lol...they are doing mental gymnastics to justify the unjustifiable.
Yes Sir mental gymnastics in simple English is called pondering by using the God given abilities that we all should do and come out of mental laziness because if we don’t use it we lose it
Alhamdulillah. That was a brilliant explanation! May Allah bless you Dr Shabir! I finally feel at peace!
Masha Allah Dr Ally, you are indeed a gem 💎.. we lucky to have you in our generation .. keep up the gud work .. jazakhallah khairan
I love this show a lot, Dr.Ally takes such a pragmatic and logical take of the Qu’ran. Especially he takes consideration of the historical context to his oral lessons!
It's many many times, at least 7 times, verses in Quran ends with "Inna fi zalika la ayatun liqoumin YATAFAKKARUN" means, all we mentioned "in the past verses" it contents signs for people who do think, This is a clear indication that we must not just pickup words from Quran and apply them practically, but it's our duty to completely analyze each n every word of the Quran at first, before it's finally implemented.
Nushuz is any harmful gesture, word, action delivered to the spouse. If a woman hurls vulgar words at her husband, she has committed nushuz, if a man beats up his wife, he has also committed nushuz. Nushuz is the Quranic term for marital abuse sin.
Excellent discussion & gives much wider context & info on early society.
I just came across some bigoted people on Twitter talking about these verses and trying to belittle the holy Quran and it immediately reminded me of this playlist. I did watch the three videos in this playlist and I must say I'm really satisfied by the interpretation Dr Shabbir Ali. This video and the interpretation by classical scholars also reminded me a other video uploaded by you people which said if a verse's implementation didn't appear to be beautiful on the ground then it isn't Islam and I couldn't help but think about this. I think maybe yes we do need to rethink about this specific verse to understand the other interpretation that can have been possible. Thank-you for making this informative video, totally satisfied and convinced. May Allah bless you and the whole team and guide you all towards the right path which will help us all too. Thank-you once again. 😇
Shabbir Aly is my most favourite scholar. I hope he will clarify some further doubt.
1. V4:35 seems to be a clear household dispute. How does it fit in this context?
2. Why are we taking fahisha (v4:15) and nushuz (v4:34) as synonyms where God used separate terms?
3. Why are we taking "forsake bed" and "house arrest" synonymously?
4:34 says... If you fear nushuz, do this and this. 4:35 says, AND if you fear dispute between husband and wife, do this and this. In both verses, it is the same YOU, and that cannot be husband for sure in 4:35, rather, that must be the authority.
2. Yes, both these are separate words, but he said that the context suggests that here Nushuz means immoral sexual behaviour. Besides, there is a hadith where our prophet is reported to have replaced the word nushuz with بفاحشۃ مبینہ ۔ For example, read Tirmidhi hadith 1163.
3. In 3:154, the word مضاجع is used as place of prison by many translators of Quran. Dr. Shabir is connecting this verse with 4:115, where it is mentioned that if women commit فاحشۃ مبینہ، imprison them in there homes and 4:34 he is translating it as, take them out their prison and beat them. Again, this order can only be issued and carried out by the authority.
Thank you. You are wonderful. Now I found a logical explanation of that verse. Thank you a lot.
Subhanallah! What an answer. It even solves the issue of 4:19 being ‘abrogated’ by 24:2
I'm sure you've heard this from MANY people for years now, but Dr. Ally, please consider writing a book!
As always Dr Shabir's explanation is well thought out and very logical. Though I have a slight issue with citing 4:128 as the male equivalent to 4:34 - because only one of them specifies an actual punishment (on the women) for what is supposedly the same indiscretion. While of course you can point to the lashing verse as the reference to what the penalty is for men - the question remains, why reiterate the same punishment for women in the female nushuz verse, but not for its (supposedly) equivalent male verse?
Exactly my question as well, since we did consider the verse to refer to the muslim community as a whole, it seems like an incorrect assumption since a similar form of verse referring specifically to females is given later in the surah, which means the prior verse wasn't for the muslim community but rather the men of the community. This would bring us back to square one with the argument.
Thank you brother Shabir. Comparing 4:34 with 4:128 is a good approach to understand the meaning of نشوز
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Not sure how this understanding accounts for “leave their beds” .
The phrase was reinterpreted to mean house arrest.
It seems that Quran uses a phrase whose meaning changes depending on context.
So the phrase in the context of a marriage means separate from each other in the bed. But the same phrase used in the context of the law and an individual means separate the person from society (I e. Prison or house arrest).
@@mohammedcharlesmurphy2837 thank you!
مضاجع
Translated as beds in this verse is also used in 3:154 and there it is translated as "place of slaughter" "place of sleep" .
It does not necessarily mean bed.
I was thinking the same
One confusion, why didn't 4:128 suggests the same procedure for Men if they commit Nushuz? If it's about Authority then they can step in n do the same , why reconciliation in case of men? Although 4:15 suggests punishment for Men as well but in case of Nushuz there's no mentioning of such physical punishment
Because the other verse and Dr. Ally explained it before: If you apply the same 3 things, and let's say the advice doesn't work, so now you go to step 2 and place the husband under house arrest, and he is the only person with an income - then that will be even worse for the family.
For the man, step 2 is skipped. Just step 1 and step 3.
@@sHuRuLuNiso men can be placed on house arrest also if the women are working? Allah must mean both husband and wife should be working then, so that there can be fairness.
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Masha Allah you are truly a blessing on the Muslim ummah Dr Shabir. I love the way you go into detail and clearly explain your thoughts on subjects you have really helped me and my wife with understanding the Quran and Ahadith. I pray the Almighty keeps you, your family , your staff and your viewers safe and keeps us all on the righteous path.
This was extremely insightful and is evidence that if that Qur'an by itself is used to explain and elucidate itself (without external sources and influences), our personal and societal bias can be identified and eliminated from exegesis.
I didn't realize a perfect book can have abrogations.
I wonder ...
I didnt quite understand that.. If a man fears nushuz, the whole community steps in and puts the woman under house arrest and then beats her but if a woman fears nushuz she makes peace with the husband? Wheres his punishment.. ?
PS And the Quran is just. Its the explanation he's giving that I don't understand...
I come to Dr Shabir Ally for all my questions. And he never disappoints. He gives sincere logical and educated advice. May Allah SWT bless him for his efforts and guide us on the right path.
Wow, what an interpretation, thrilling...
Jazakallah for such a plausible explanation. 🙂
Centuries from now I wonder what will be the new Interpretation to this verse. The Miracle of Reinterpretation is Amazing.
Yes.That is why Quran is for all times .
@@centric145 I'm not sure if you realise it but the OP was being sarcastic
Centuries from now people will be enlightened and religions will be gone.
@@mohammedcharlesmurphy2837 Who is OP
OP is "original poster" in this case. Can also be used to mean "original post".
Best explanation!! Thank you Doc!
Indeed, this discussion is very informative 👍
Just logical and objective... as usual
"In our context" presumably meaning under non-muslim secular Government.
Or is it also means under muslims Government?
And I very much like the way Dr. Shabbir's explanation. First I thought dr. didn't explain the "leave their bed" part, but after listening further I say to myself I am under qualified before Dr. Shabbir.
Several years ago i beat my wife which led to the breakage of the marriage. I was angry and couldn't control my anger. It was a shame and i strongly apologized. Though i didn't beat her because i think the Quran said so, nevertheless i ponder over this verse and was forced to question myself as follows: If the Qur'an actually addressed the man to beat his wife, would he be fair in his execution of this punishment considering that most likely he would be in a state of anger at this time. Therefore his interpretation the verse id not addressing men makes sense. There is no other interpretation
My friend in high school used to arrive to school with bruises sometimes. I was uncomfortable talking about it because I didn’t want to embarrass her, but I had some idea that the perpetrator was one of her brothers who had long beard, wore a long robe and flaunted his piety to everyone... while her other 3 brothers were kind and gentle with her, except they weren’t the religious type. Unfortunately some of these so called Muslim men think it is their God given right to abuse and humiliate their women in order to keep them ‘in line,’ and they’re the ones who ironically have the ‘look.’ I realized I was right about which brother used to beat her because she left her home one day and came crying to my house. He was manipulative enough to convince their father to beat her too. My point is, a lot of this chauvinistic and abusive attitude of men stem from problematic hadiths and polluted interpretations of the Quran.
If quran is clear than why people can not understand it?
@@NRFP what is relevant for your salvation is clear.
This man is the reviver of islam for our generation
Alhumdulilah im so at ease with this answer. JazakAllahu khairan Dr. SHABIR🤲🏾🤲🏾
Bottom line : it’s what you think God said ! - & the Quran claims to be a clear message🥺🥺 - these scholars are all mental gymnasts
Seems to me that God will not/cannot be ossified by interpretation of man. Old School meets New School! But what do I know! God is wonder-filled, this much I do know!
Always interesting! 💞
@letthequranspeak
You still haven't mentioned about the punishment of the a man's nushuz
As-Salam Alikoum, if you want, go to part 1 of this video series. I have tried to answer a similar question, look for it. Thanks!
He mentioned it. It is mentioned in verse 4:14-16.
In 4:129, he said that there is difference between a man comitting nushuz and only his wife knows it. In that case, the wife can wither advise her husband or leave her, but if the case is presented to the court, then men will face the same punishment as women do.
JazakAllahu khair Dr. Shabir Ally. This is the best interpretation of the verse. This question of beating wife was plaguing me for a good amount of time. You've explained it well. Alhamdulillah.
Love the Showwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
I would be happy dear Dr shabir if you could also talk about the age Aisha(ra).
I mean comprehensive analysis.
There are a lot of verses that have not been made clear as it is a rest for us. If the prophet didn’t translate it to make it more clear I think we should treat it like Alif Lam Meem-Allah knows best and let’s leave it at that, instead of playing the guessing game. Many abusive men will use these classical sources to justify hitting a woman! Fear Allah and follow the sunnah of the prophet.
Love Dr Shabbir Ally
5:09 ......20:17
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Leave from bed / home stay
So if it refers to a community then what is the meaning for that leave them in their bed part? How did it suddenly became house arrest 😅i'm trying to understand but this was a lot of information and i couldn't comprehend.
Anyway i know profet(s) never hit his wifes and he is the perfect example for muslims so that doesn't worries me. I just want to know what this verse actually says
This interpretation has still some holes but this is the best and most sensible interpretation in my opinion.
Hmm that was innovative but what about how the ahadith and asbab nuzul that contradicts this position
Which hadith? There's numerous Hadith of the prophet that he never laid a finger on anyone mem or women, and when he fought with his wives he slept at the mosque other hadith when he said the best among u is the best to his family , he also said there's no goodness in a men who lay a finger on his wife, n way more, u can look it up
During the last adress of the prophet, he is reported to have said
If your women invite some stranger to their beds, advise them, leave them in their homes and beat them
The prophet also explained the word Nushuz as " inviting someone to their bed" i e adultry.
And there is a difference between mashoor hadith, that is, a saying of prophet in public gathering and ahad hadith ( a saying of prophet to one person ).
So yes, there are some ahadith which say that prophet allowed husbands to beat their wives, but the most authentic and authoritative perscribe this punishment only for those women who comit adultry.
@@omerali2690 copy the hadith!
Its not beating but the verse rather tells man to control anger and not to physically abuse her wife and rather lightly attract her attention towards the marriage which is crumbling due to her as a woman is the foundation of the house and family
The marriage is crumbling due to her as a woman u mean, bc she being the foundation of the house and family is a completely different subject. And if women were the “foundation,” why is the man given complete and utter control of the women? Maybe the marriage is crumbling bc mhamed perverted the real meaning of marriage, which is one man, one woman, both under God! Who enjoys sharing their bed w 3 other women?! 🙄
@@temporaryaccount5307 if the man is a pervert then thats a separate case where the woman will approach the court and action will be enacted against him
Also a woman is the foundation of a family , it is she who stiches the family together. The verse deals with a situation where the woman is showing lewdness and perversion and not the woman
@@temporaryaccount5307 also a man is not the dictator of the family but rather the head of the family who is supposed to provide for the family and protect the family from threats and dangers
And a woman completes the man as hadiths tell that a man and a woman compliments and completes each other
@@sounakbanerjee1892 ignore him akhi, he loves to waste his time being disrespectful and ignorant on the internet
Why does it have to keep being reinterpreted? Why can't it just be clear?
13:25 (I'm not saying let's do that today). This sums everything, Obedience to Allah is the last thing he can think of.
You can't do it today in western countries as it would violate local laws. He isn't suggesting that you shouldn't do it in a Muslim society.
@@zairnaim93 Do you think that a true believer describes a verse as problematic!?
For a while, he was questioning the authentic hadiths on the grounds that they are Zani not like the Qur’an, which is qatei'i.
Here he is now moved to the second step to question the Qur'an itself!
@@bf6724 I think you are letting your personal dislike of him read into his words in a negative way to suggest things he isn't actually saying. Questioning something to better understand it is very different to doubting its truthfulness. No where is he saying the Qur'an is wrong
@@something-fj7oi Ijtihad to describe the Quranic verse as problematic! and try to give it another meaning when you know perfectly well that it is not the real meaning! at the same time completely ignoring the teachings of the Prophet!!!
In all the three episodes I did not hear him not once quoted one saying of the Prophet (pbuh), but he paradoxically cited a book titled Feminist ...(Somethin)!
@@zairnaim93 First. To interpret the Qur'anic text there are important rules for doing so and this is definitely not the right way.
Second. His primary motive is not an attempt to reach the true meaning, but an attempt to please the society in which he lives.
Did you not see that the meaning of his words revolves around his acknowledgment that all commentators agree on a certain meaning, but this meaning is no longer valid for this society and he has to invent a new meaning that is accepted by the society in which he lives!
Do you think that you have to look for another meaning of the Quranic verse just because the society in which you live does not like the ruling!
Perhaps after the next hundred years, there will be people with a different mentality who will accept that the wife beats the husband, then Dr. Shabeer (second version) will intervene to find for them another explanation that matches their desire!!
Jalebi just Jalebi. Read the correct translations by different scholars and tafsir by Ibn Kathir. Anyone can understand.
I think it means lashing for adultery but they changed the quran to mean stoning so they needed another reason for verse 4:34
Lots of jumping around the bush to conform to Feminism.
Essentially living in the modern world surrounded by post enlightenment philosophy this imam is reframing the texts to try and make them more compatible with Western values.
He would not need to do this if the quran was good for all times and places.
He would not need to reinterpret this verse had it been interpreted properly. Had it been interpreted properly, it would have been compatible for all times. I think his interpretation is accurate. notice that there has been several attempts to interpret the verse but all didn't make sense except his interpretation
My dear friend, sheikh is exclusively using the Quran to explain the Quran itself . He’s not making up anything new. Everything makes totally sense if only you were to understand Arabic
@@pointservicephone1049 the quran says it is easy to understand, but it seems to take a lifetime to understand it. How so? Surely a god can write clear instructions?
@@ojammeh do toy know what cognitive dissonance is?
@@RichardEnglander The qur'an is clear. It also said there are verses which are clear and verses which are unclear. This specific verse in question to me is clear. The early interpreters failed to realized that it is not addressing men at all. There is no mention of 'O you men'
@ around 14 minutes Shabirs daughter asks about the punishment for men who conduct sexual impropriety, My question is what was supposed to be done with the Prophet when he engaged in **x with the slave woman in one of his wives s bed? Do all of the punishments apply to all "MEN and women" equally or are there exceptions?
And Shabir talks about marraige with slave women, I would be interested in the source which tells Muslims that they need to "marry" slave woman inorder to you know conduct R**e.
The interpretation of Quran of the companions of the prophet s.a.w. Were the most authentic.
Since the Quran is the last revelation that will be applied till the end of time and things change as time goes, it has to be interpreted accordingly.
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These intellectual gymnastics are downright embarassing.
Isn't it amazing that some verses are to be taken 100% literally but others require so much scraping of the bottom of the barrell of reason.
Somehow one never finds native Arabic speakers trying to explain away this verse like this. I wonder why.
If one goes by the axiom, "If a bucketful is haram then a spoonful is haram", then the converse also applies: "If a small bit of it is prima facie toxic rubbish, then all of it cannot be considered wholesome without facile intellectual overreach".
salam Dr sabir ally
Salam Dr Shabbir. That's an impeccably logical, objective, and observational interpretation corroborated by numerous linguistic, philological, and rationalistic evidence from the Quranic commandments, exegetical gloss, the historical critical empiricism and miscellaneous modern methodologies to entail objectivity in the authentication and contextualization of hadith literature with its objective reconciliation with the progressive Qur'anic commandment. This empirical and perspicacious position is held by numerous scholars such as Dr Javad T Hashmi, Dr Khalil Andani, Dr Khaled Abou El Fadl, Dr Professor Saqib Hussain, Shaykh Al Islam Muhammad Al Tahir ibn Ashur,Dr Abla Hassan, Maysuma Al Faruqi, Ghulam Ahmad Parvez and you. Certain intellectual subservient and ideologically molested critics like Radwan are vaingloriously ignorant of the profundity of the rationalistic, linguistic, philological, philosophical, scriptural, and exegetical evidentiary articulation consolidated through rigorous historical critical empiricism of rhe aforementioned scholars due to his negligence of the hyper-fideistic, sectarianistically and politically malfeasant, intellectually regressive medieval juristic tradition, which is why these prejudiced critics blame the supra-confessional primordial faith of sycophancy towards feminism.
God bless you for your efforts.
Allah says Quran is clear, then why it needs explanations? Who has the authority to explain Quran. It is a joke.
I like the classical interpretation and I don't see any problematic about that , but Dr Shabir's interpretation is way better than other modern interpretations. Good work.
Which classical one?
There are plenty of those.
@@omerali2690
تفسير الطبرى .
A guide book with such ambiguity will crash the plane😂😂
Best interpretation. Why would God want a dysfunctional family in the first place?
If I beat my wife she will not magically start obeying me. She would at least try to kill me :P
The classic interpretation solves nothing.
Just admit that the Q y’all read today no longer applies to “modern times.”
What based on your ignorance ?
Because you find one thing you think doesn’t apply to your particular circumstance, clearly there isn’t ANYTHING at all about human nature and the human condition that has stayed the same , right??🙄
What u mean by turning away from her?
Finally satisfied!!!But I've a question that there is no mentioning of wife, husband n spouse in 34 rather Allah is addressing authority!! so how it's suddenly came in 35th?? Mean why to think only about wife?? We are caretakers of our mother, sisters n daughters too so they also can commit nashuz, N in today's world police will warned n advice them.... So I didn't understand why Allah suddenly address spouse n divorce
It's a good sign if someone like him trying to make quran and hadith compatible to modern humanity, otherwise the banning of quran by the entire non Muslim world is inevitable.
So. If Allah is all powerful, always correct, and does not support beating wives. Why could Allah's word not be clearer, and take so long until the modern age to be interpreted in a more ethical way. Why doesn't Allah use the ability to simply place the exact concepts of best morality in people's heads from the start?
All the previous scholars made mistake.... and Sabir Ally is only correct
Sheikh your waffling the Quran is clear. Please stop trying to change the words of Allah. Weather you like it or not there verses are there. And Allah knows who transgresses his Laws. Allah the knows best the most high the most magnificent. .
The Quran emphatically states that it is a clear scripture,
Alif Lam Ra. A Book whose verses are set clear, and then distinguished, from One All-wise, All-aware: S. 11:1
A book that fully and clearly explains everything,
. Shall I seek a judge other than Allah while it is He Who has sent down unto you the Book (The Qur'an), explained in detail. S. 6:114 Hilali-Khan
. And We have sent down on thee the Book making clear everything, and as a guidance and a mercy, and as good tidings to those who surrender. S. 16:89 Arberry
A Book whereof the Verses are explained in detail; A Qur'an in Arabic for people who know S. 41:3 Hilali-Khan
So why is this guy having to try so hard to understand?
I disagree with you
Why.
I'm wondering who gave Dr Shabir ijazza? Could Dr Shabir please please supply information.
His PhD in Islamic studies is from University of Toronto
What is ijazza ?
This should be the reason why people should leave Islam
In before angry in cel comes!
What a contortionist. Amazing!
Quran: There is only 1 God
Modernist Schalar: well that was old interpretation, in our modern time we live with many faith's people, there are many religion, many don't even believe in God, so there is clear conflict. We also have to look into the word "god", there are many meaning of God, in quran it also said, they made their desire as their God, so you can see meaning of god used differently, so we can't say for sure god is really one, also sheikh modernist fulfula said if someone find peace believing & worshipping more than 1 god its perfectly fine.
Gullible Follower's of these Modernist: awww, Schalar is soo knowledgeable, those old scholars were so mean to polythest, whereas quran wasnt. i could hear all day your gems. enlighten us more Schalar
And we can continue to see those people who have always wanted to twist religion to justify misogyny & abuse against women lose their mind when their claims are refuted with precise language of Quran alone like you seem to have lost it by making nonsensical comments about something that has never happened
@@lepakistani2176 ikr? He doesn't use one evidence outside the Quran to explain his stance, yet people get mad at him
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Safia.....still you are not leaving?
Hmm..I wonder if you both understand Aramaic the language of the Nabateans, Dravidian or Sanskrit or simply Arabic diacritics...poor Safiyyah...reminds me...
😂 “Dr. Beer” 🍺 anyone else catch that? (I’m merely poking fun in a lighthearted matter) ♥️
U had to make me notice this a few seconds before i heard it😅
Finally, after 1400 years, we know the meaning of duraba. It means embrace your wife in love so that she realises the wrongs of her way and comes back to her good senses.
Way to go, Ally family.
Dr Shabbir says that his opinion is that daraba means corporal punishment.
u don’t find a problem w “Finally after 1400 yrs we know the meaning of...”? What ever did the ppl of the past 1400 yrs think it meant?! And when it’s said “so she realizes the wrongs of her way...,” u mean when she realizes YOUR way, the man’s way, is right? As a woman, I loathe Islam’s perverted perception of females.
@@temporaryaccount5307 if you loathe it then walk away. get rid of your messiah complex and go touch some grass. muslims are happy with their religion
Hahaha good one
@@----f messiah complex? What’s that?
Very enteresting, Everyone nowadays want to interpret the Holy QURAN as he want. Subhanallah. it's akhir Zamaan.
Ijthihad
You look so funny trying to excuse this verse and explain your way out of it.
Doctor, you need to do justice towards yourself by not inclining to your prejudices and biases while interpreting Qura'an. It was already interpreted to us by our beloved Prophet sallallahu alaihivasallam. Don't you feel that you are doing harm than service while suggesting hiddenly that the Prophet sallallahu alaihivasallam failed miserably in his purpose. Seek refuge in Allah.
Even if you consider that hadith to be authentic, the prophet interpreted almost in the same way. On the day of Hijatul wida, the prophet is reported to have said " If you women invite some stranger to their beds, advise them, leave them in their place of dwelling and beat them"
The prophet also explained the word Nushuz as inviting some person to their beds ( i e adultry ).
I think Shabir interprets for what he feels is best.
What a great performance of mental gymnastics!!
A five year old could destroy his position and yet this woman wants to believe so badly, that her religion is not misogynistic and barbaric that she plays along.
How is it that otherwise intelligent people take a stupid pill when it comes to religion?
Oh...😲 I see what you saying.
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This man is trying to lead people astray he knows nothing about the field he is talking about.
Do you know about this feild than a person who took PhD in islamic studies
The very problem w all of Islam is in the title: INTERPRETATION! Not only does each have their own, despite being unqualified, per Ally, but it continues to change w time. So much for “clear and concise” 🤪 At least he admitted the Quran is NOT “PERFECTLY PRESERVED DOWN TO THE DOT AND LETTER!” That’s way more than any other mzm would publicly admit!
I'd love to see the look on your face on the day of judgement
@@----f now is that when allh appears as an unrecognizable shape then shows his shin or is that on “resurrection day?” Or are those 2 events the same?
U seem a bit obsessed ,this is like the third or foth comment of urs on this vid alone, I'm sure u have other important things to do in ur life since u apparently lack critical thinking of ur own and ur heart is filed with hate i reccomend a few therapy sessions, I hope that helps, have a nice day
Because there were no dots on letters in the text of classical times but the verses remain the same. In other words, Quran is the ONLY scripture that has been perfectly preserved today. Hope that helps.
@@ferielmini I’m obsessed bc I periodically comment here? What’s that say for the mzms who come to the Christian channels and comment the same dumb questions day after day after having already received answers 1000xs? I bet they’re not “obsessed” tho are they? 🙄 U are under no obligation to pay attention to me (altho u are under obligation to commit Jihad.) Isnt that the 6th pillar of Islam? 🌙👿
There's many different ways to hide & deny the exact intention & meaning of their written document
People say he is a deviant scholar but this video proves he isn’t
Anyone that disagrees with the wahhabi fundamentalists they are automatically labeled deviants.. I wouldn’t pay attention to those sociopaths.
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Textbook definition of mansplaining. Just saying
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Three videos to explain away the obvious sexism of one verse? Why don't you just accept the truth, which is that the Quran condones and orders its adherents to engage in obviously immoral behavior. No man has ever been spoken to by a god or an angel.
I suggest you watch the 3 videos rather than just speaking. There is good reason to believe God/angel has spoken to a person.
@@Hamza000h u have ZERO PROOF OR EVIDENCE that any angel spoke w mhamed and that angel is “gabriel!” I suggest u stop watching videos and start thinking before u speak.
@@temporaryaccount5307 And you have no evidence that God goes around having babies and has 3 split personalities like a schizophrenic. Go and eat flesh of your God, you seem hungry.
There can only be one God, not three or three but one, or it's not one but three, or three equals one, or sometimes one sometimes three, or no, no, no not three it's actually one...and on and on and on....
@@zedmelor8842 yea, exactly 💯, why this Bible bangers don't go to worship a man in 3 and 3 in one whatever that even means and let Muslims discuss their book.
What is the classical and modern interpretation of Muhammed committing adultery with the maid in the Quran? His wife caught him after all.
There's none because that didn't happen
@@ferielmini Spend some time and read your texts again, clearly, you have not bothered with the Tafseer, and instead got conditioned by the Shaiyk at the Masjid.
As if he did not have enough wives… please bring evidences or shut up forever
@@ppevideos8627 r u okay?? I read the Quran daily, in ARABIC as it's my first language, there's literally no chapter or verse about the prophets commiting adultery with a maid! Or anyone for that matter 😭 why r u so loud for someone so wrong, go ahead, give me the Quranic chapter you're talking abt
@@ferielmini Clearly you don't read it with attention then. I will not do the work for you. You can find it yourself and then hold your head in shame, a native Arab speaker.