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i still feel disappointed with the naming of the variant civs. HRE order of the dragon should changed into teutonic knight order, french joan of arc name should changed into frank or napoleon or something. chinese are the worst naming one, from empire of jade into zhuxi legacy, when zhuxi itself is peace loving neo confucianist scholar which implemented very strict version of confucianism, and despised by chinese itself who actually live within his lifetime. better called it zhenghe's fleet far more fitting. he is a great admiral.@@AgeofNoob
@@loks117 I agree that Jeanne d'arc should've been changed, but Napoleon definitely isn't the right time period. The goal of variant civs is to take a specific element from a bigger civilization, so Franks would be too general. I would personally advocate Orléans or even Followers of Jeanne d'Arc. At the end of the day it's not a big deal, but Jeanne d'Arc feels weird and will get some getting used to.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 That would at least be reasonably close, since the Eastern Roman Empire became increasingly Greek-oriented (and it occupied Greece) after the Roman Empire split.
Im just so happy they're giving them such a cool identity that still resonates their old profile from AOE 2 with the callback units like cataphract and banking on their versatility and strategic flexibility of old, but this time around giving them truly fearsome offensive and economical potential worthy of an empire with all those cool options for an army composition instead of relegating them to the role of a counter-unit/turtling civ
@@asianpersuasion1219 i don't care illiterate fool, they were Greeks. I don't care that my ancestors called themselves 'Roman', they were still Greeks. We modern Greeks still call ourselves Roman. Yet we are Greek.
Thank you so much Age of Noob for the videos. When your channel got demonetized I was heart broken. So glad you got everything worked out. You truly have the best quality videos on AOE info.
Olive oil as a unique resource for the byzantines is similar to exports for asian civs and influence to african civs; both in aoe3. In aoe3, those unique but rare resource are used to hire mercenaries.
You’re making some great vids. Started watching you a couple year ago, you always bring a detailed and different perspective than other creators. Keep it up! Excited for the update
I love this game but every civ really needs its own campaign or challenges that allow you to kearn how each play since they are each very different imo
Great video as always! That wasn’t the Byzantine theme playing in the background was it? Surprised they haven’t dropped the OST for them yet. The Malian and Ottoman ones came about a month out.
With Relic’s excellent sound design one thing I’m excited to find out is what language(s) the Byzantine units will speak? Perhaps Latin in Age I-II then Greek in III-IV?
@@ZaiKerizmno Latin wasn't used for religious purposes. The East was speaking Greek so the Church here always used Greek. Latin were only the official language of the Empire until the reign of Emperor Heraclius in early 7th century and by then Greek were also the co-official language, but i cant remember since when. Also in Age of Empires 4 they showed that they are using the Empire from 674 and onwards (although they include the unit of Limitanei) so Greek will be the official language from Age I propably.
The limitanei shield ability is AOE 3's all hand infantry's 'cover mode' which makes them take a defensive formation that increases their armor but halfs their speed and damage, it is unfair for you to say 'i wanted to see/do in the AoE series', as the mechanic already exists.
The interesting part here - if farms generate Olive oil, they likely either don't create food or create it at a much slower rate. This combined with higher cost elite core units means likely food is at an extreme premium for byzantines. It means any economic damage against them is also much more valuable since it's harder to replace those villagers than normal if food is at a premium. Very much sounds like a top heavy civ. Amazing armies, if you can support them. But it'll be very hard to match what your opponent has on the field in quantity.
I know the roman or heck even the holy roman empire are generally more popular historical empires but god damn do I love the Byzantine Roster, just the Varangian guard and the Byzantines Cataphracts make them the best for me. And you've gotta love the scale armor and Gambesons over the chainmail.
i dont know how the mercenary thing will work......but one age 2 landmark its for mercenaries, you can open diferent openings if you can recruit all age 2 unique units
I get a feeling their greek fire is mostly going to be used for siege counter. as it will add some heavy versitility to treb battles... at least until the cannons come out. though It might allow them to stay in the game even once cannons come out.
Shame there is no single player campaign for them as many people not really into multi. Also the civ has so many wierd mechanics. People fight for you in exchange for oil :D Similary the aqueducts that doesnt care about elevations. Abstraction
I wish we could build bridges. That should be a super long building time in order to gove an opportunity to stop it. I think it is something to add that might help to strategize better.
Amazing video :D Thank you very much for the explanation of the aquaducts, makes it much easier to understand now. At first Japanese was my most anticipated civ but now it's the byzantines by far! can't wait to try them out! Just one question. Are you allowed to say if the Japanese are as difficult as the byzantines or much more easy?
It was 395 the empire split not 285. There were multiple splits and reformations but the main split was in 395 after Emperor Theodosius split the empire between his two sons, Honorius and Arcadius
The prominence of mercenaries in the Byzantine roster very cool and accurate to history. But paying them in olive oil of all things seems like a strange design decision. While I'm sure it was important to their economy, making it an entirely seperate resource is odd. Surely it would have made more sense to just give them a unique olive plantation building that produces gold at a slow rate and have mercenaries be paid for in gold.
I hope the mercenary system keeps within the bounds of the civs they actually interacted with. Its pretty odd to have Chinese, Japanese, Delhi, or Malian mercenaries.
I like how the Limitanei unit echos the Comitatenses upgrade for the Roman (Western Roman) faction in the new AOE2 DLC (Since Roman Military reforms in the Era had Limitanei (Or Ripenses) as the border/frontier units with the Comitatenses be the mobile field armies to fight stronger armies). It's a good touch by the Devs to add it. EDIT: It's AoE2, not AOE3
Byzantines sound like a tricky civ. Olive oil resource, meaning less vills for the rest of the resources. Cisterns and aqueducts means less building spamming and more organized layout. Dont know how this will work on multiplayer, where everything is fast and hectic. The olive oil and cistern buffs better be strong enought to be worth your while. I have the feeling this civ is going to be a slow to start, defensive civ, but once setup unstoppable later on?
I can make a wild guess. I haven't watched the video yet, but this olive oil and mercenaries system exactly sounds like the export and consulate system of Asian civs from AoE3.
would you do a wishlist/ideas video for new civs? I like the choices this time tho Id still want the Poles added in. Even tho it not as many people play this game anymore.
do the byzantines start of in age 1 speaking early latin and then every age get in middle greek language? That would be really cool and accurate - or maybe a combination of both ie. 60% greek - 40% latin vocabulary .. ?
I hope they get a unique wall system / upgrade for it, which makes their walls stronger against arty (especially bombards; gun powder arty). #JusticeToTheWallsOfConstantinople
Fire seems to be a new gameplay feature to keep in consideration.....but can enemy units walk under aqueduct or aqueduct work like walls? do aquedcut cost stone?
Here's hoping to hear about those mercenaries. It'd be interesting to see if they include Bulgarian and Anatolian units. Great video, the Aqueduct system and the olive oil mechanic got me curious about just how in-depth their economy will go.
Very cool! I've played Byzantines today in AOE2 because I got excited about the Georgians in the new expansion! But I'd rather play AOE4, it's going to be great with all the new Civs and variants!
@@AgeofNoob I was amazed by the Ottoman music, it really took me into the Turkish vibe! And I was very happy with the Mediterranean biome and sand desert biome when those came out.
There are only two ways how this gona play out. First they could be very week. Second they will be OP as fuvk. I guess they will be op as fuck like Malians when they came out.
Ok it looks amazing, true. But come on too many things.. some civ are so poor and this one has basically new units, possibility to use units of other civ(am i correct?!) And a fifth resource 😅 everybody Will play this or joanna d arc with her terminator cannon....
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Don't worry about that, I literally waited for your video on this instead of watching another channel.
I will always watch your videos. Noone can explain it better than you.
you know its something specials whenever I watch mike empires, spirit of the law and you.
People will watch this video for the following weeks, so you're right
fantastic job as always, thanks mate
I must say the quality of these videos is really top notch. Can't wait to play the Byzantines!
Thank you - cheers!
Not even a game play scene and it's amazing
i still feel disappointed with the naming of the variant civs. HRE order of the dragon should changed into teutonic knight order, french joan of arc name should changed into frank or napoleon or something. chinese are the worst naming one, from empire of jade into zhuxi legacy, when zhuxi itself is peace loving neo confucianist scholar which implemented very strict version of confucianism, and despised by chinese itself who actually live within his lifetime. better called it zhenghe's fleet far more fitting. he is a great admiral.@@AgeofNoob
@@loks117
I agree that Jeanne d'arc should've been changed, but Napoleon definitely isn't the right time period. The goal of variant civs is to take a specific element from a bigger civilization, so Franks would be too general. I would personally advocate Orléans or even Followers of Jeanne d'Arc. At the end of the day it's not a big deal, but Jeanne d'Arc feels weird and will get some getting used to.
This sounds like one of the coolest civilizations to play! I can imagine a China vs Byzantine matchup going very interesting!
On the different note, the amount of work you put into your scenery from AoE4 editor is astounding. Thumbs up and hats down!
So excited for the Byzantines, and I can't wait to hear their AOE4 music. Excellent video, Noob!
Cheers :)
I wonder if they will have actual Eastern Roman Empire music?
@@Lucius_Chiaraviglio greek chanting
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 That would at least be reasonably close, since the Eastern Roman Empire became increasingly Greek-oriented (and it occupied Greece) after the Roman Empire split.
Not gonna lie, this is the sickest civ design I've ever seen in all Age of Empires.
It is one of the best I have seen.
Literally one of best aoe content creators. Please never stop
You really made a good video here.
The cinematics now are better than ever with all those new angles wow 😮
Byzantines look awesome! I think I will get back into aoe4 to play them. Thanks for bringing me back in!
VERY cool. thanks for the vid and making it short & concise
Im just so happy they're giving them such a cool identity that still resonates their old profile from AOE 2 with the callback units like cataphract and banking on their versatility and strategic flexibility of old, but this time around giving them truly fearsome offensive and economical potential worthy of an empire with all those cool options for an army composition instead of relegating them to the role of a counter-unit/turtling civ
Ah, finally the one true Roman Empire has joined the fight
You mean Greek Empire.
@@greekwarrior5373 this is literally the Eastern Roman Empire
@@asianpersuasion1219 i don't care illiterate fool, they were Greeks. I don't care that my ancestors called themselves 'Roman', they were still Greeks. We modern Greeks still call ourselves Roman. Yet we are Greek.
@@greekwarrior5373medieval Romans
@@miloshp7399 Medieval Americans and Japanese.
Yup. I didn't think much of them before, but now I can't wait to try out that shield wall and everything else
absolutely loving the background choir you got. great video as always!
Ye, they are singing Ti Ipermaho.
I'm here for AoE4 and Age of Noob.
Awesome quality, AoN, keep it up the great work!
I'm extremely hyped with this civ, really looking forward to be a Byz main, no matter how hard.
What a video quality😮
Thank you so much Age of Noob for the videos. When your channel got demonetized I was heart broken. So glad you got everything worked out. You truly have the best quality videos on AOE info.
Great video! Thank you!
Man, now I want to hear that war chant.
Being pedantic but their aoe2 theme is singing a church hymn
Olive oil as a unique resource for the byzantines is similar to exports for asian civs and influence to african civs; both in aoe3. In aoe3, those unique but rare resource are used to hire mercenaries.
I am loving your videos mate, keep going!
these videos are awesome!
You’re making some great vids. Started watching you a couple year ago, you always bring a detailed and different perspective than other creators. Keep it up! Excited for the update
Wouldn't it make more sense if the Byzantine's unique resource was silk?
You set the quality content bar in the AoEIV community.
I love this game but every civ really needs its own campaign or challenges that allow you to kearn how each play since they are each very different imo
Great video as always! That wasn’t the Byzantine theme playing in the background was it? Surprised they haven’t dropped the OST for them yet. The Malian and Ottoman ones came about a month out.
The background music was from Civ 6.
It's a mix of soundtracks from other games. The second is atmosphere music from some TES game i think
It was ti ipermaho, basically the national anthem of the Roman Empire that was sung before games, battles, in church, and on other occasions.
bro ur videos never fail to satisfy me. ty keep it up
from what we have seen so far, this DLC sounds like a master piece.
This civilization looks very unorthodox.
thank you for the high amount of effort put into these vids bro! always a delight
With Relic’s excellent sound design one thing I’m excited to find out is what language(s) the Byzantine units will speak? Perhaps Latin in Age I-II then Greek in III-IV?
It must be a Greek
Greek was Public language for citizen while Latin was for court politician and religious language
@@ZaiKerizmno Latin wasn't used for religious purposes. The East was speaking Greek so the Church here always used Greek. Latin were only the official language of the Empire until the reign of Emperor Heraclius in early 7th century and by then Greek were also the co-official language, but i cant remember since when.
Also in Age of Empires 4 they showed that they are using the Empire from 674 and onwards (although they include the unit of Limitanei) so Greek will be the official language from Age I propably.
The limitanei shield ability is AOE 3's all hand infantry's 'cover mode' which makes them take a defensive formation that increases their armor but halfs their speed and damage, it is unfair for you to say 'i wanted to see/do in the AoE series', as the mechanic already exists.
The hype is real!
Indeed :)
The quality of your videos is just awesome. Can't wait for the new civ's.
The network should allow cisterns to "pool" the bonus for some time so it doesn't get disrupted as soon as a segment is destroyed.
Heh, "pool". I get it.
Great video as always man keep it up
Amazing video as Always, and i'm really glad that we finally have fire as a mechanic with this DLC with the Ayyubids and Byzantines
I wish there hand cannoners where instead hand siphons
Awesome video and awesome civ! Very hyped for their unique units!
Please tell me a villager voice line is "prostagma"
Great video as always.
Dont you find ironic that the solution against cavalry in aoe is to disperse your formation in comparison to history where it was to be in a dense one
The interesting part here - if farms generate Olive oil, they likely either don't create food or create it at a much slower rate. This combined with higher cost elite core units means likely food is at an extreme premium for byzantines. It means any economic damage against them is also much more valuable since it's harder to replace those villagers than normal if food is at a premium. Very much sounds like a top heavy civ. Amazing armies, if you can support them. But it'll be very hard to match what your opponent has on the field in quantity.
Outstanding video!
Great video! Way better than AussieDrongos 26 min Slideshow
I am looking forward to this release, and in particular the Byzantines! "We don't need no water let the MF burn!"
Oh nice, the Limitanei have the Warcraft 3 Footman's shield block ability! That was a fun stance toggle, glad someone else is doing it.
Aye me lord!
Beautiful video. I sent it to my friends whom I want to start playing AOE
I know the roman or heck even the holy roman empire are generally more popular historical empires but god damn do I love the Byzantine Roster, just the Varangian guard and the Byzantines Cataphracts make them the best for me. And you've gotta love the scale armor and Gambesons over the chainmail.
Such an insane civ, and greatly encapsulates the enigma the byzantines were
hyped for japan. cant wait for update
Maybe I will buy aoe4 after all
It was a miracle that lasted so long considering the fact that Greeks have started so many civil wars.
every time i watch your videos i want to play skyrim again
Nice video. Btw what's the sentence that you said at the end? It was all Greek to me.
It’s the word αποχαιρετισμός (farewell) 😆
Thnx!! @@kami-yo
with the addition of varangian guard, we lowkeyget the addition of georgians and armenians in aoe4
With great power comes great responsibility
Nothing about the walls? I doubt that is really all, i bet we are going to have some unique walls or some unique thecs at least regarding walls
i dont know how the mercenary thing will work......but one age 2 landmark its for mercenaries, you can open diferent openings if you can recruit all age 2 unique units
Best defensive faction hands down! All hail the Powerhouse!
I get a feeling their greek fire is mostly going to be used for siege counter. as it will add some heavy versitility to treb battles... at least until the cannons come out. though It might allow them to stay in the game even once cannons come out.
How do they gather food in the late game without having farms?
Shame there is no single player campaign for them as many people not really into multi. Also the civ has so many wierd mechanics. People fight for you in exchange for oil :D Similary the aqueducts that doesnt care about elevations. Abstraction
I wish we could build bridges. That should be a super long building time in order to gove an opportunity to stop it. I think it is something to add that might help to strategize better.
Amazing video :D Thank you very much for the explanation of the aquaducts, makes it much easier to understand now. At first Japanese was my most anticipated civ but now it's the byzantines by far! can't wait to try them out!
Just one question. Are you allowed to say if the Japanese are as difficult as the byzantines or much more easy?
It was 395 the empire split not 285. There were multiple splits and reformations but the main split was in 395 after Emperor Theodosius split the empire between his two sons, Honorius and Arcadius
Yeah i think he refers to Diocletian's Tetrarchy instead.
Thanks!
The prominence of mercenaries in the Byzantine roster very cool and accurate to history. But paying them in olive oil of all things seems like a strange design decision.
While I'm sure it was important to their economy, making it an entirely seperate resource is odd. Surely it would have made more sense to just give them a unique olive plantation building that produces gold at a slow rate and have mercenaries be paid for in gold.
I hope the mercenary system keeps within the bounds of the civs they actually interacted with. Its pretty odd to have Chinese, Japanese, Delhi, or Malian mercenaries.
OK FINALLYIM GOING TO PLAY AGE OF EMPIRES 4!
I like how the Limitanei unit echos the Comitatenses upgrade for the Roman (Western Roman) faction in the new AOE2 DLC (Since Roman Military reforms in the Era had Limitanei (Or Ripenses) as the border/frontier units with the Comitatenses be the mobile field armies to fight stronger armies).
It's a good touch by the Devs to add it.
EDIT: It's AoE2, not AOE3
I think you mean AOE2:)
@@hansenxavier4403damm meant to say AoE2.
Byzantines sound like a tricky civ. Olive oil resource, meaning less vills for the rest of the resources. Cisterns and aqueducts means less building spamming and more organized layout. Dont know how this will work on multiplayer, where everything is fast and hectic. The olive oil and cistern buffs better be strong enought to be worth your while. I have the feeling this civ is going to be a slow to start, defensive civ, but once setup unstoppable later on?
I wish now a day/night cycle in games😢😢
I can make a wild guess. I haven't watched the video yet, but this olive oil and mercenaries system exactly sounds like the export and consulate system of Asian civs from AoE3.
Duh
Consulate system is not map dependent though, seems here you'll have to expand and defend the expansion.
would you do a wishlist/ideas video for new civs? I like the choices this time tho Id still want the Poles added in. Even tho it not as many people play this game anymore.
do the byzantines start of in age 1 speaking early latin and then every age get in middle greek language? That would be really cool and accurate - or maybe a combination of both ie. 60% greek - 40% latin vocabulary .. ?
The limitanei ability are similar with Mars' 3rd skill from DoTA2
excellent video
Are they next going to introduce the Italians as a nation and give them pizza as a unique resource?
Awesome
I hope they get a unique wall system / upgrade for it, which makes their walls stronger against arty (especially bombards; gun powder arty). #JusticeToTheWallsOfConstantinople
Mechanics sound a little like zerg in StarCraft
Looks like a perfect civ for simcity-kind of players :D
Player vs AI is the only way I play this series
Byzantium returns!
Fire seems to be a new gameplay feature to keep in consideration.....but can enemy units walk under aqueduct or aqueduct work like walls? do aquedcut cost stone?
Empire's armies who fight honor: we need gold
Armies for hire who fight for riches: oil 😋
How did you get night ingame??? I'd like to play a map night time!
Their new resource to hire mercenaries is ... olive oil? Weirdly specific ... the devs sometimes.
Thought it'd be butter for my butterlord
Here's hoping to hear about those mercenaries. It'd be interesting to see if they include Bulgarian and Anatolian units. Great video, the Aqueduct system and the olive oil mechanic got me curious about just how in-depth their economy will go.
Loved it 🇬🇷 ✝️
Very cool! I've played Byzantines today in AOE2 because I got excited about the Georgians in the new expansion! But I'd rather play AOE4, it's going to be great with all the new Civs and variants!
They have some solid music for sure!
@@AgeofNoob I was amazed by the Ottoman music, it really took me into the Turkish vibe! And I was very happy with the Mediterranean biome and sand desert biome when those came out.
Nice video!
There are only two ways how this gona play out. First they could be very week. Second they will be OP as fuvk. I guess they will be op as fuck like Malians when they came out.
Is there any way to unlock the free camera?
thx
So... The Romans is something else? Western Roman Empire? Or just a "suspension of disbelief" faction?
Background music please?
If olive farm replaces regular farm, then Byzantines have to buy food in late games once wild food sources exhaust?
Ok it looks amazing, true. But come on too many things.. some civ are so poor and this one has basically new units, possibility to use units of other civ(am i correct?!) And a fifth resource 😅 everybody Will play this or joanna d arc with her terminator cannon....