Police Interview Ohio Dad Who Shot Daughter's Ex-Boyfriend for Trying to Break Into Their Home
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
- WATCH: Police interview Mitch Duckro, the Ohio father who shot his daughter's ex-boyfriend James Rayl after he attempted to break into their house. A grand jury chose not to indict Duckro for the incident, citing stand-your-ground laws. Watch the full story: • Ring Doorbell Shows Oh...
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I am a retired law enforcement officer of over 30 years. Never speak to the police without your attorney. Never.
Thank you for your service and advice
What would an attorney do during an interrogation. How do they help. Do you have a link to a video of it? I cant find one
The questions about the ammo, storage and condition of readiness of the firearm are irrelevant to the discussion as it doesn't matter if he walked around his house chambered with his finger on the trigger. Just like asking if he knew it was James outside the door, another erroneous query.
IT'S MY HOUSE.
MY LEGAL FIREARM GIVEN TO ME BY MY F.I.L. IS LOADED WITH LEGAL AMMUNITION.
SOME DUDE WAS ATTEMPTING TO FORCE HIS WAY INTO MY HOUSE AFTER I TOLD HIM TO LEAVE AND WARNED HIM I WAS ARMED.
Any questions regarding how the gun was stored, kept and fed are only asked for one reason.
I hope you enjoy your retirement sir.
I'm in a section of my agency full of geezers who can't say no
@@Selfdefense4k they would prevent you from saying anything incriminating. In this case, they'd encourage you to say "I was in fear for my life and my daughters life" rather than something like "I wasn't sure whether he wanted to hurt us"
Cop still digging even though this man did nothing wrong. Big mistake talking too them without counsel.
I’m a lawyer. Never ever make a statement without speaking to a lawyer. This guy was protecting his daughter. He still got charged and he still was put in front of the grand jury. He was not indicted. We lawyers are there to protect your rights. I know you hate us but we can’t help you unless you let us.
True. And never speak without a lawyer even if you are a lawyer!😳😳
Absolutely!!!
"unless you pay us."
truth is not everyone can afford a lawyer then what would you recommend? or would this be considered legal advice and not free?
I was wondering why without a lawyer first just in case an to protect his self.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO🙏🏾
As a former police officer, NEVER NEVER NEVER talk to the police without an attorney!!! They will pretend everything is fine and they are your friend. Some of them are, and alot of them, especially in this circumstance will understand. But do NOT take that chance. EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS!! That chance may be the only one you get that can change your life forever!
Why do the police do this????
Says alot for a tyrant like you telling us we can't trust people like you. Thank you for your dedicated " service "
@@toddbrown7702 Unfortunately, it's literally their job. They're supposed to find evidence for the DA to potentially charge someone. It is not their job to exonerate.
@@megamonster1234 it's such a gray area because it seems wrong to lie and play psychology games with people who are especially innocent. But sadly that is the way alot of bad people get caught. However the lesson is the same whether you're guilty or innocent having a legal representative will massively change the tone of the interview/interrogation. That's why there's hardly any videos of it, because detectives can't use any of that GOTCHA garbage
@@SwampOperatorBecause in the real world, you are guilty until proven innocent.
Shame on these officers and our court system after watching the home camera. It is sickening, they would have done the exact same thing for their own family and walked. What a disgrace!
Shame on the DA* fixed that for you.
@@SCP_Bright nah man, those questions asked by the officer were to potentially incriminate that innocent man. Shame on the officers. “Fixed it for you.” DA..Don’t fix it if it ain’t broken.
Never talk to cops without a lawyer.
EVER
@@bmoorear Infinity +1
I am I AWE that he did.
its funny to think they are suppose to be for the people but instead they actively try to arrest people any which way to keep up with quotas.
People who back the blue don’t know this information
Call me callous, but protecting your Daughter, your Family and your home is an honourable thing.
No I will not call you callous. We live in strange times brother. There is more concern for criminals than victims. If somebody crosses that threshold with ill intent, that is a declaration of war. This is the outcome they should expect.
Agreed 💯👍 to both of y'all ☺️
Hai callous everyone likes numbers money phone number email numbers hacks cheats skeems Lamborghinis but nun are number one even if you kill a man even a woman can be petty .
Imagine giving him a big pizza instead of water go fund me from all sociopathic people packing guns god has nun and he will still judge you can't run from him
May God forgive ur dark soul
The main reason people don't request an attorney immediately is because they think it's a sign of guilt. Get an attorney!
What is wrong with people who think it is OK to force themselves on others? How do you reach adulthood so self-absorbed that you refuse to leave when clearly told to go?
What's wrong with the police department pressing charges against this Father who was well within his rights to protect his home from a home invasion by his daughter's ex bf. The ex bf didn't break down the door just to talk!!! when told to leave! when warned by the homeowner that they have a gun! The ex bf was asking for what he got!
@@DearMe247 They didn't. Even when it is self defense prosecutors must bring it to a grand jury and they grand jury decides whether to prosecute or not. Since killing someone is a Felony it is up to a grand jury. The purpose of a grand jury is "to determine whether or not there is probable cause to believe that one or more persons committed a certain Federal offense within the venue of the district court."
The young man in question thought it would be a good idea to habitually use hallucinogenic drugs, which destroyed his sanity. It's in the interview with the daughter. She said his personality changed completely.
I wish we had information on the autopsy report and if any substance was in his system. He looked out of it.. like he was not himself or under some influence of something. I do not think he was fully aware of what he was doing. However, that does not excuse the fact that he was breaking the law and that the response he got was the full meaning of 'stand your ground'.
Please read a little about how the law works. Your rights. And police procedures etc. I don't see anything illegal being made during the interrogation all the way to the Grand Jury. One is not exempt of anything until one is proven innocent. @@DearMe247
Never, never, never speak without a lawyer. Even if you are justified.
And then it all magically disappears and he gets to go home like nothing happened without answering questions or asking for a lawyer to be present? Interesting.
@Christian Toth lol some people should steer clear of giving advice.
How come? In this situation a lawyer is a waste of money
That point has already been made 100 times already in this comment section.
He still got off
Police are not asking questions out of curiosity they are attempting to formulate the basic elements of any crime by your own admission. Never (especially in this situation ) speak to police without your attorney. NEVER
@@Vorniforouscan’t seem to find them?
What do you mean? As shown in the door cam the evidence is clear cut.
@@user-qz6xf4uo1v Doesn't matter. You could say something that could still be used against you, in criminal or civil cases. The family is already trying to sue, so he could easily be found innocent and still have to defend against the family in a separate case.
@@patchez058 Yes the absurdity of it all.
Let it be known that nothing you say to police can *ever* help you at court. It is against the rules of evidence to use the accused's words to exonerate him. Whatever you say to police, it can only ever incriminate you, in can never exculpate.
I hope this dad is doing okay. The trauma he experienced, breaks my heart. What an amazing dad. His daughter better cherish him forever
To be fair we don't know she might be a bit of a trouble maker,who knows
How does that even matter..!!? He came to their home and attempted to force his way in after being told numerous times that she wanted nothing to do with him. The ring doorbell video is online and you clearly see what happened.
He didn’t have to shoot the boy in the back
@@julierogers7629 he has the right when he’s trespassing, murder on someone trespassing and is threat is legal as self defense
He is as ok as he can be he's very upset about what happened but he was cleared of any and all charges..
I'm glad the grand jury chose not to indict and I'm thankful this family is safe.
The Grand Jury clearly saw that Dad was protecting his Family!
I will NEVER understand why anyone, guilty or not, give an interview to police within 72 hours and without an attorney’s advice or presence!! Ever!!!
Because they don't know any better.
He's not guilty he's innocent
Most people don‘t know anything about the judicial system and dont understand their rights. It is so sad to see the poor family beeing interviewed right after the tragedy happened. The police detectives should be ashamed, not to recommend a lawyer and explain that the accusation of killing someone , even in self defence is pretty serious
@@thickgirlsneedlove2190 that is the problem. Most people don‘t understand that the friendly police officer doesn‘t decide whether you are guilty or not. The court, judge and jury is the judicial branch not the police.
thank you!!!!! omg
Never ever ever ever speak to the police without your lawyer by your side even if you 100% justified
Yeah.that was their only mistake.gladly it didn't got worse and father wasn't charged
@@KK-kz9ee Actually he *was* charged. Grand jury chose not to indict.
The only man that needs an attorney is a guilty man
Not many ordinary people like this guy, don’t just have a lawyer! Who d you call if you don’t have a lawyer?
@@LadyBirch even if you don’t have a lawyer, you tell the police (politely) that you’re not going to answer any of their questions without your lawyer present, even if you don’t have one on hand, by law they have to stop the interview until you have one present. Don’t volunteer any information just go find a law firm and get a lawyer
Excellent Father! You did the right thing. Every girl should have a daddy like you, your daughter is very blessed.
And the fact that you call him "daddy"...i just leave it at that
@@michaelkillies1303idiot
Glad the Dad protected his family. The ex-boyfriend acted aggressively, which indicated he was a threat of harm. The Dad did the right thing.
“ANYTHING you say can and WILL be used against you in the court of law” Never participate in an investigation against yourself without a lawyer!
Nope always participate
@@thickgirlsneedlove2190 yep with a lawyer
You highlighted the wrong words. The key words there is AGAINST YOU. Nothing you say can help your case that’s why everyone always says lawyer up even if you didn’t do anything wrong.
Don’t even need a lawyer really. Just say I choose not to answer questions. The 5th amendment gives us that right. If cops want to push it forward then ask for a lawyer
100% right, police are there to make arrest... not to make decisions
I agree. His personal information should be bleeped out!
Exactly what I was thinking. They block it out all the time.
He changed his number two days after the incident.
@@nathanc5789 I hope so!
Exactly my thought, the video is public information not his personal information. Law & Crime Network Messed up.
If it wasn't bleeped out then it means it's no longer his info. They only bleep it out of it's current info.
That poor dad. You can see how upset he is before the cops come in. He did exactly the right thing, shooting that unstable young man coming after his daughter; any loving father would do the same. What a horrible situation he was placed in.
Never talk to the police without a lawyer. There are plenty of people who have killed or wounded in self-defense but still ended up in jail because at a terribly confusing time where you're coming off a adrenaline high(not a good type of high) and you might say something wrong that may forever taint your case.
You do understand they don't have this interview immediately after the incident, they take weeks.
It’s crazy, thousands of people see these comments urging not to talk to the police. Yet people still do
"What you say can and WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU in a court of law". They literally tell you this and it goes right over everyone's heads. Never speak without an attorney.
100% correct. It is so clear. I'd be surprise an if no attorneys already contacted this man.
But.. he was found not guilty so everything worked out in the end
Not just that but what they dont say is nothing you say can be used for you in the court of law. If it helps you its nothing but hearsay.
He was never charged… how was it used against him in this case?
@@tv92taylor it can be is the thing. You give the police no evidence in any situation unless you have a attorney and it’s to clear your name
As a retired federal agent for 32 years, you ask to go directly to the hospital to be treated and then contact an attorney immediately. You never give a statement while you’re recovering from a critical incident. Your adrenaline and blood pressure will be through the roof and there is a good possibility that you will make a mistake in your statement. You have to have an attorney!!!!
Very good and important point
Bruh 32 years experience😂so you're telling us you're in your 60s rn😂?
So what about the others in the household? Because the police are going to question the daughter and mother also, and if they say something wrong couldn’t they get the dad in trouble also?
Best comment I see so far. He could have had a stress related heart attack. Get checked out by medical professional, then lawyer up. Protect yourself, by doing so you're continuing to protect your family. Great advice.
@@itaachiii obviously. I’m 53.
Guy is so stressed , makes me sad. But I think he is a HERO. PROTECTING HIS KIDS.
I feel so much for this man. What he had to do, and then having to deal with the mental anguish. If you are reading this sir, you did the right thing. All the best.
I’m sure he will feel the guilt of killing a teenager for the rest of his life. Regardless if it was justified or not.
Why did he shot three times?
@@wirrwarr808 When your stress level is that high and you fear for not only your life, but the life of your loved ones, I'm impressed he didn't empty his clip into him.
@@herc_ules_therealone After the first shot he already backed up.
He was shooting at a living human being, her Ex which stand infront of a locked door.
They knew him he was the daughter ‘s ex he wasn’t a stranger doesn’t justify killing the young kid !!! He is going to have to live with the knowledge that he killed this young guy !!!!
yall could have at least beeped the mans phone number
LMAO
He is a nice man protecting his family. Don't think he'll ever get over this situation.
Hope he's haunted by it his entire life
Yea I don’t think he will either.
God you guys make him sound like a victim.
Sad and PATHETIC
Inside his head or heart or how strong he is.
It amazes me how quickly we turn people into victims by projecting our own thoughts into their heads
@@thecloneguyz Amen, he wasn't even scared. He was armed against an unarmed person.
@@thecloneguyz guess if the situation was you.. you’d let the guy break in and do whatever he wanted with your daughter huh.. offer him a glass of wine and a TV dinner after he broke down your door
I am a grandmother who would have done the same thing! The whole family breaks my heart 💔
This law enforcement team including AG office should be ashamed of themselves as this never should’ve made it to a grand jury!
Ahh... I am ashamed of you... if you are a US citizen.. you should know how the law works.
My dad was in law enforcement for 36 years. He told me if I was ever in a situation where I was being interviewed/interrogated to remain silent until I had an attorney present even if I'm innocent of any wrongdoing. You never know how they will coerce you or twist your words.
They'll try to pressure you into talking. Stand your ground, remember that!
There are innocent people in prison. New DNA has gotten people out of prison.
Excellent advice.
@@watema3381 I agree no matter what they say.
Miranda warning should be "anything you say will be twisted and distorted to make you look guilty."
It doesn't matter how long the kid was outside the door, on the porch, trying to get into the house, anytime someone breaks down your door, they are not there to sell you girl scout cookies, they are there to harm you! You are allowed to defend yourself, even in California, where most in other states would think otherwise. The Dad did what he had to do
Can you believe this interview? It enrages me. Like the Father is on trial or something. Sad
@@458rmm Even the daughter was asked questions as if they set this kid up, I know they have to go through the formalities, but I wouldn't think this case would go to the grand jury! BS
Would calling police while locking your door would have helped? I am just curious to know
@@poojanpatel2437 It was too late, the ex boyfriend broke the door down, I saw a photo where the screws were pulled out of the doors hinges, he was in already
@@poojanpatel2437 They did. He broke through it while they were on the phone with 911.
This Dad did everything right! Can’t believe this even went to Grand Jury!
That is the way the system works, the grand jury decides if a case merits going to trial.
Don’t tell me he is in prison now 😢
@@da.a1728 He isn't. he was cleared of any wrong doing.
@@WrenchS13 good 🙏🏾
He could have escalated the situation differently for sure. That door wasn't budging.
God bless this man. He is shaken up because he never wanted to be in this situation. Shame on police for interrogating him and not letting him know he did NOTHING WRONG. I’m pretty sure his daughter would have been assaulted or even worse, kidnapped had he not done something. I pray this family lives with peace in their heart and mind.
Just demand a lawyer. It doesn’t matter how innocent you are. Just demand a lawyer. The cops are only there to build a case to charge you with regardless of your innocence.
But they didn't charge him. Did they??
That's right, people. Old saying: Loose lips sink ships. Cops are cleaver in twisting the incident in their favor. They are trained observers and manipulators.
Man ! that’s not what they are there for. They at her to protect , serve and keep the peace. They aren’t monsters! Geez!
@@travissys3504 yes he charged with several
@@christywolf5028 I call absolute BS on that. A simple google search shows that a grand jury decided not to lay charges against the father.
I stand 100 % with the dad for standing up to keep his daughter safe.
Absolutely. He just needs to shut up and let the lawyer speak for him
Tell me what happened here? Wtf😒 Why do they need to interrogate this Man? The video shows everything. Protected his family. Free Man. Done.
@Robin Justice Please provide a link to validate your claim of being a “progressive independent”. Considering the fervency with which you’re pushing this narrative, and if you’re being entirely genuine, substantiating its veracity shouldn’t be an issue for you.
@Robin Justice What you mean is that you consider yourself a non-affiliated progressive. Declaring you’re an “independent progressive” suggests that you’re either an elected official or campaigning to be one. The behaviour you’ve exhibited is well described by the observations of Dunning and Kruger.
This father did his job correctly, well done to him.
I took criminal defense classes in college. The first things lawyers tell you is, don't talk to law enforcement, hire an attorney, because all they're trying to do is to incriminate you. They may act like your friend, or pretend that they understand you. All they're trying to do, is to build a case against you.
I don't think the dad did anything wrong, he was protecting himself and his family. The perpetrator was damaging private property in order to get to his daughter. If he's capable of damaging private property, who knows what else he's capable of.
Step #1: Lawyer up and give no formal statements to law enforcement.
I’m a lawyer and never ever speak to the police without a lawyer.
Let this man go. He defended his home from an intruder.
they did
They did let it go eventually but not before filing charges and taking it to a grand jury. Shows how screwed up our justice system is. He literally by law had the right to stand his ground and defend his home and family
@@fruitflyhunter not for long! He’ll definitely get charged for using a firearm and not having it registered.
He will do some time. For using a firearm, and carrying a firearm without it being registered.
@@arcanexangel he wont, they wont file any charges filed against him, he protected his family. The gun IS registered, not in his name, but still registered to his father in law, stop lying on the internet
NEVER NEVER answer any questions until you have an attorney present!!!!!...coming from someone who used to be a police officer
this man has to live the rest of his life knowing he took away someone's life, isnt it enough? leave the man alone, he protected his family, thats his duty, thats his real purpose in life, and he did what he had to do.
Innocent people need lawyers as much possibly more than guilty people. Never ever ever speak to police without a lawyer present, and chances are any good lawyer will tell you not to say anything!
The legal system is so flawed that many innocent people enter a guilty plea deal just to get a shorter sentence than risk a jury finding them guilty and being given a long sentence - for having the terrible audacity of trying to prove their innocence
Exactly. Their job is to get an easy conviction not to help you. This is why many innocent people are in prison.
I thought everyone knew this. It's so crazy to see these videos with all of these adults just babbling to police. "I don't answer questions without my lawyer present." is what I was taught at a young age.
@@chrisv7593 Which is also why more and more people are starting to dislike law enforcement.
The Maranda warning says it all... "Anything you say can and will be used against you" noticed that there's no mention of anything you say helping you.
I feel terrible for this guy and for his family. What a horrible situation.
looks like someone jumped the gun
@@sownheard someone got what he deserved. Lunatic man tried to break into this man’s house and took the room temp challenge
@@mustang7603 The father warned the guy before he fired. That was all he was needed to do.
@@mustang7603 Sorry but can you explain just how he was a lunatic? Did he make a threat? Was he armed? Did he say he was coming to harm or kill his ex girlfriend? Please, give some clarity. If harmlessly pushing left shoulder into a locked door in a natural moment of frustration, since a female played mind games makes one a lunatic; then every young male is a lunatic!
@@newhorizon1355 Watch the video, and look at the door. The dude kicked the frame of the door in. That isn't just a normal frustrated person pushing their shoulder into the door. It's absurd to suggest that.
After being a father for only 6 months, to twins. I fully understand this guys choice. Now i dont just conceal and carry for myself but for them.
BRAVO GRAND JURY!
Unfortunate situation but dad did what he had to do to protect his family.
Absolutely justified!!! That kid didn’t look well. I feel sorry for his family as well. There are no winners here.
Well thats it,,guilty..U didnt look right
I feel sorry for the young man. There was obviously something wrong with him. Y not call the police beeefore shooting at least they could've arrived prior to the homeowner killing a man because this will haunt the homeowner. It's sad all around for everyone involved.
@@beverlybmwwilkerson5923 They did call. The police just had not arrived. They also warned him they had a gun but it did not deter him. There was no choice.
@@mikemiller659 Lmfao he isn't guilty he's innocent
@@beverlybmwwilkerson5923 He deserved it don't break down the door
Justified shooting. There is video evidence of the guy breaking in while being told the homeowner has a gun.
OH mentality is to shoot an unarmed non-stranger through the door 3 times in torso.... BEFORE calling 911 and after you already went outside to talk to him w/o your gun only a minute before... all in daylight with neighbors at witnesses....
The Neighbor’s reaction had me dying. He’s like a real life sitcom neighbor character
I don’t live in America and I don’t own a gun, but if I was in the situation he was, and someone was trying to break into my house, I would have done exactly the same thing and not thought twice about it. I have a wife and 3 kids and my role is to protect them at all costs
You did nothing wrong, Mitch. Every person (should) have the right to defend their family by all means. You saved your daughters life, and you should be proud of that.
Are you serious, he could have used his fists, a baseball bat , a cricket bat, a hockey stick a rolling pin but he chose to hide behind a gun and now a young unarmed man he knew from when he was 8 yrs old is dead. How pathetically craven!
@@cwells5576 how did the father know the kid didn't have a firearm or another weapon? Is he supposed to wait for the door to break down? Can he see through the door to identify if the deceased had empty hands. Crawl back into reality
@@cwells5576 If ANYONE threatened to bust into my house and do harm to my daughter, after being asked to leave, would've gotten the same treatment as Mitch gave that young fella. Please don't condone this type of illegal behavior. Usually don't comment, but that was waaaay off point.
@@cwells5576 are you insane? Your talking about what the VICTIM should have done? How about what the criminal should have done? What if the dude had a gun and the plane was to get in the house and shoot everyone? The homeowner is supposed to ask the criminal exactly where his plan is so he can determine what force to use? You’re out of your mind.
@@cwells5576 I hear your argument. Thing is, the man could have had long knife. Arms, rolling pins aren’t a great match for all of the potential threats this young, not well man, posed. I’m against ARs in arms of citizens. But as a retired Detroit trauma nurse I wish more of my victims of cases like this could have used fire power bc they didn’t deserve what that young man brought literally to their door step.
Guy was a threat to his family in their home. No point waiting to find out if it can be resolved peacefully. He had enough warning and chances to walk away.
OH mentality is to shoot an unarmed non-stranger through the door 3 times in torso.... BEFORE calling 911 and after you already went outside to talk to him w/o your gun only a minute before... all in daylight with neighbors at witnesses....
he did
@@mikemiller659lol. He ain't walking anymore
@@mikemiller659 He didn't start "walking" away until the bullets started flying AFTER he kicked through the door.
Yes, he had multiple warnings and he kept coming. No point in waiting longer to see what his intentions were.
This poor man! An honest person trying to do the right thing. No matter what it’s horrible knowing you killed someone even though he was in the right!
Poor guy, after experiencing a man trying to break into his home and potentially hurt his family, now being questioned by the police, a scary position to be in.
Even though I support this man 100%, I think that it was foolish to do this interview without an attorney present.
I think he was still in shock and not thinking clearly. He was definitely thinking clearly when he pulled the trigger, tho.
Agree
"Anything you say can and WILL be used AGAINST you in a court of law!" It's NEVER to help your case.
It’s not in your best interest to speak to law enforcement.I agree 100% !
@@203Chance it 100% isn’t in your best interest too talk to the police without an attorney present. That being said your attorney that hopefully you can retain or gets appointed to you if you did talk to the police in this very specific circumstance can let the jury see that the way you describe your actions without a shadow of a doubt were in the interests of fearing for your life and for the life of your family. Jury’s like authenticity. Everyone likes Authenticity.
James Duane ,”you have the right to remain innocent.” Great book. Watch his video on RUclips called ,”do not speak to the police.”
He made a big mistake in speaking with the police without an attorney present. Even with an attorney present do NOT EVER SPEAK WITH THE POLICE!
Well it helped his case to just say the truth . He wasn’t indicted. The cops did a good job.
@@Tati_6 I'm only 9min in and im wondering if I'm watching the same video that others have commented on. There's been a shooting, someone has died and everyone thinks that it's not going to be investigated because it's an ex-bf of the shooters daughter. Ffs people are literally thick as bricks.
Thank God you were home Dad, this could've had a different outcome.
God bless this man. He's a hero. I only wish my father had cared as much. Bless this family. 🌹
I was told this in a GUN CLASS - even if you are right...NEVER SPEAK to a cop without a lawyer. Wrong move here Sir. This is a NO for me.
Even if you *THINK* your right. This dude is going to jail. If he was right, he wouldn't be going to jail. I think that logic is simple.
Yes because simply the dead cannot talk. In the DAs eyes until you are cleared. This was a murder to them.
@@imbeautiful9305 So are you saying this man is going to jail? You really think that?
5th and 6th amendment envoke them
@@Ateyaaa I surely do. I'm so with protecting your home and family. But you cant just ring shots on unarmed ppl, let alone 3 of them in the back. Lol. He fired no warning shot or nothing. Yeah he said he had a gun, but I don't think the dude heard him. Anyway, yeah they gon get this dude. It's a little bit unfair, but a heavy BB gun wouldn't have probably killed this kid and got the same job done.
NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE WITH OUT A LAWYER
This Should never had gone to trial he was protecting his family from an intruder who forcefully broke through the front door.
I read an article where Mr. Rayl's sister was demanding justice and did what everyone seems to do when in denial, praised his virtues and ignore his flaws. While I cant imagine loosing a loved one the evidence here is beyond obvious. The man was trying to break down the door to a home he didn't own and didn't belong at, it was never going to end well and it was by his own doing he is dead. If someone did that to my door, I'm not asking questions I'm doing just what he did, tragedy all around.
he did the right thing but he still should have hired a lawyer. so many people that are doing the right thing get locked up because they thought they had nothing to hide.
I agree and thank god he didn’t get arrested he did the right thing
Ikr. I can picture a whole civil suit of the boyfriends family trying to get money.
He is innocent, although the DA might still try and charge.
I puckered up when the cop asked if he left the threshold. They could’ve twisted that easy if he said yes.
@@jamesdean9943 The DA has cleared him. 🙄
For all new gun owners, NEVER TALK TO POLICE WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY PRESENT.
It's not to say the detective is out to hurt the poor guy or ruin him but without an attorney, you never know how the prosecution will read and use your statements against you.
It's especially in these self defense cases that you never speak without an attorney, for your own safety
And that is wasn’t Regis to him along w his dtr in her interview saying she “wished her dad did talk to someone professional about his anxiety,” could have been used against this father who had to make an awful, unasked for, choice.
@@andyschool School. You need school
Yes 100%
@@andyschool what?
The Police are not on your side, any detective who is interviewing you is trying to find a reason to put you in jail, they will lie to you, they will try and trap you, do not ever expect them to give you the benefit of the doubt.
STFU and get a lawyer.
As a person who has never been in trouble I would feel urged to speak to detectives. However, thank you to these channels I know better now. I now would NEVER EVER speak to detectives without an attorney. Most cops/ detectives are dirty and will do anything to get what they want.
Ahh.. I was happy with your comment and then you went and messed it up in the last sentence. It is not MOST cops/detectives... it is a small number of them who are bad apples. However, speaking to an attorney is not to avoid getting caught by bad cops/detectives. It is to protect you from yourself.
Hero Dad!!! Taking care of his family!!!!! If he only wounded him the boy would have come back for revenge!!! God Bless this Dad!!
This father is a true protector of his family. He is a man in the absolute sense.
100% agree 🤝
Been an officer for 28 years and I tell everyone to have a lawyer present when questioning even if your in the right... Better to be protected. you see where the officer was asking a lot of questions and some that might have sounded as leading. in this case when officer asked about the calls, did he go outside, and where he got the gun or placed it afterwards, any little thing like that is fishing to see if he is guilty like knowing this kid was coming over and he intentionally shot him, etc... to many variables here that a lawyer will pick up on and advise you not to answer as it may lead into where DA will accept and or draw up more charges on you even if you were 100% in the right to protect yourself and others. it is your right to remain silent use it.
even on car stops you ask them if you know why I pulled you over and you may end up admitting to other violations (though those that were misdemeanor the officer has to visually see those to charge you with them, however we all know there are bad apples everywhere and one could take that as an admission and he could could lie and say he witnessed it) no reason to really answer any questions that do not pertain to why we are talking to you...
He should have declined the interview . Like you said, even knowing the shooting was justified, you can't trust anyone to protect your rights but yourself.
Officers always twist your words in order to close the case fast.
He didn’t end up getting convicted of anything.
Amen that's the truth
@@natalieh8023 Just by luck.
He got released as he should be
"Stand your Ground!"
11/29/23 That family was protecting their daughter. The dad didn't know if he had a gun or not. Once the kid started breaking down the door, he had no choice. So sad! 💔😢
Dude didn't "TRY" he literally broke the hinge off at the bolt to BREAK IN.
My father was a prosecutor and crminal defense attorney for over 35 years. He use to say, "90% of all people in prison, talked their way in".
he wasn’t even charged. also that’s just a blatant lie.
@@alexandriamahoneyy24687 not a blatant lie, this is absolutely true. Even when you’re innocent, you never speak without an attorney present and in a lot of cases shouldn’t take the stand either.
NEVER, EVER speak to ANY Law Enforcement Personnel without an attorney...EVER!
He's protecting his family from an intruder and the cops want to punish him?
Uh,... What?!
This cop is wrong. He's not mirandising him because of "this room" it's because he's questioning a person. and yes, never ever speak to a police officer without a lawyer. There is not a single question they ever ask to 'prove your innocence'. they only ask questions to see if they can charge you.
_"There is not a single question they ever ask to 'prove your innocence'. They only ask questions to see if they can charge you."_
Eloquently put. *Don't talk to LEO's!*
He did read him his rights
I'm not an expert or anything, but what I saw was just a cop asking his side of the story. He read him his rights and to my view always asked questions to get a better view of what happened.
The only response is, "I'd like to help and will do everything I can as soon as I speak to my lawyer."
The most simplest and EXACT explanation I’ve ever heard. The stupidest mf can understand wtf u saying. Very nicely said. !
my heart breaks for this gentleman Sir you did the right thing and saved your daughter she is right Youre the Best Dad
One thing right that second cop said was "good thing you had that ring doorbell" YES or you would be facing murder charges right now. In this situation the police ARE NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!! USE YOUR RIGHTS!!! You have the right to have an attorney present. This guy has probably never been arrested before and thinks if he tells the truth he will be ok, nothing could be farther from the truth. and don't forget about your gun because they will take it and NOT return it unless you ask for it, believe me I'VE been through this myself already.
You should learn how the law works. Innocent people aren't afraid to talk to the police.
Please, please people if you shoot someone the first call you make is to your lawyer. Never give a statement without representation.
As a former law enforcement officer I'd rather be judge by 12 then buried by 6! Great job dad for protecting your most valuable asset!
Depends on the situation always best not be put in a situation where you could be judged by 12. Look at the two who pulled guns on the woman with her daughter after an argument in a store. They were both charged maybe they get out of it likely not they could have just gotten in their car and called police waited. DA's charge because they have no downside to charging citizens with crimes where defendant risking everything. IMO the prosecutor should be held liable when a defendant is found not guilty.
@@Mike-01234you’re a clown.
The twelve: "Guilty!"
Judge: "Death! Okay I need 6 volunteers"
Thank goodness he had video proof or else who know where this father would be sitting right now.
Carried by 6**
As a retired LEO, I have to tell you that I saw a lot of people get charged with manslaughter or murder after they made their statement after they thought they were in the right after they stopped the threat. People, Like everyone here is saying, It is a must to have a lawyer with during questioning. Police can quickly find a loophole in the story, and you are done. Please again, Get a lawter.
I live in New Zealand and I think I saw this case on here, through door bell. If this is the same one, the ex boyfriend really hammered her that door. The mother was terrified. This is definitely home defense and that man should not be prosecuted
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it's sad when the one causing the trouble is the "victim" . I feel so sorry for the dad bc he will have to deal with what happened bc that young guy wouldnt listen. The mother & daughter will be affected too from all of this. It is disturbing this went that far in court.
This MAN did what he was supposed to. He defended his family. God Bless
No! He overreacted. That kid shouldn't have died over this.
Get help, or stop invoking god to make you feel right.
Help or hes criminal
Never NEVER talk to police without a lawyer there for you.
Good for this man. Officers, BACK THE F off and leave him alone!!
He deserves to be let free. He sets a perfect example of what it means to protect himself and his family. He was inside his own home and someone broke in and that justifies his actions, period.
He was. He wasn't indicted.
This guy grabbed his gun, not his shoes. This guy is a killer who found an excuse to kill.
@@tyrnosrsflexxbox1999 I guess we will wait to see what a jury decides.
@@deputy3690
a Grand Jury already declined to indict him.
@@deputy3690 lol you're dense arent you
I’m sure I’m in good company when I say, as a law enforcement officer I would have aggressively hinted at this man requesting legal counsel before any of this took place. When the responding officers conducted an after action, they relayed what went down during this event. They told this investigator that this was a defensive shoot and the shooter was upheld within his rights under the Castle Doctrine. I personally feel that I wouldn’t be able to let this man go on without an attorney.
I’ve worked in investigations for quite a while, one poor choice of words can force the investigator to reclassify you as a suspect. My instructor told me during a training where I am told a scenario and I have to attempt to mislead detectives, “you can easily be the most intelligent person in the room, but you will never be the most prepared.”
Lawyer up, every single time.
Nor the most experienced
Are you really law enforcement or just another Jeremy dewitt? If you are, you should start calling out your pos brothers in blue for bs like this. Cops can kill someone for a cellphone that makes them fear for their lives in broad daylight, but others have to prove their innocent from an armed intruder breaking into their house. If you're actually a cop, you need to talk to all the judges, mayor and every other cop that you see everyday and stop this corruption. If (again) you've even law enforcement, you would of hinted and say it like you're the hero when it's your brothers in blue, doing the bs. Why not just tell your brothers to stop this?
Best comment 💯
Also thank you for your service Officer
I've only watched ~7 seconds of the vid, but they don't censor the phone number he gives out. Seems somewhere between illegal or lazy to directly dump footage like that online.
also - nice comment
As a retired Mailman, never leave your dogs in the front yard
I'm a cop 28 years. Never talk to the police without your attorney present. Whether you are innocent or not guilty. Some people don't know the difference between. That's why you need an attorney.
1000% justified. Hope this guy gets the help he needs after a traumatic event like this.
he never entered and had turned around after 1 shot, he took 2 bullets in the back and was not a threat
@@Manu_Lemoine_FR he's not a threat now either 🤷♀️ He made a poor choice and exited the simulation
ATM if you are breaking in someone’s house. If they shoot you who cares if you turn around before they can shoot you twice?? He was breaking in their house!!!
@@Manu_Lemoine_FR dude was trying to break into there house fam and he warned him he had a gun it’s dude fault not the dad’s come on bruh know the difference and I’m sorry if you trying to break in and I tell you I have a gun and still trying to break in you getting shot I’m sorry
OH mentality is to shoot an unarmed non-stranger through the door 3 times in torso.... BEFORE calling 911 and after you already went outside to talk to him w/o your gun only a minute before... all in daylight with neighbors at witnesses....
Why would this man subject himself to being interviewed by the police like this? The only thing this family did wrong was to not assert their constitutional rights and divulge too much information to the police. He legally defended his home and family.
Because he killed someone regardless of the reason why and whether he was in his legal
Right to do so he has to be questioned about what happened, getting his side so to speak.
Just because he rightfully took a stalkers life doesn’t mean he has to say a word to the cops without a lawyer present
@@speedme7910 That his decision to make, probably not the best given the circumstances.
@@hellsbells1262 He doesn't have to say anything. Burden of proof is on the State. As the RUclipsr Pot Brothers at Law say, invoke the 5th and STFU.
In a self defense class, they told us that if you shoot or kill someone, it is a crime. It us up to the prosecutor to determine if it was justified.
His security home video recorded a clear view of the whole event which was prove of what really happened which definitely help his case as a victim and not as a criminal .
This is the kind of dad everyone should have ❤️
I feel so bad for this guy. He just was trying to protect his family. You can see how devastated he is realizing this happened.
What he did is considered murder, shot the kid in the back when we was trying to run. I’d be different if he shot 3 times, but nah he dumped a clip into the kid
@@VENENOSEASON I must have seen a different video
@@VENENOSEASON link to the video of the mag dump?
No one has the right to take the law into their own hands. If I get into an argument with you and I feel threatened do I have the right to kill you? No. Dilution Americans, this is what’s wrong with the us. You want to protect your family, call the police and learn to fight like a man not a coward with a gun.
@@VENENOSEASON that’s a lie lol
I wish I’d been blessed with a Dad like you. Please take care of your health. Anxiety & stress is not to be ignored. Do whatever you need to heal. You deserve to be around a long time 💜
Live long big dog!!
Whatever
Dad is my hero, and a great man. He was going to protect his baby at all cost. I'm so glad dad got off because the scumbag broke good door down, and dad, mom and daughter all kept saying stop and get off the property and leave. All dad's should be like this dad. A protective dad!
The daughter’s boyfriend was dangerous. He was trying to break into her residence despite calls to stop and being informed that the father was armed. No one knew if the boyfriend was armed and the father had every right to defend his family. The father may or may not have saved his daughters life THAT day. But there’s a good chance he eliminated a future threat and one when he would not be there to defend his daughter.
Man he’s lucky to be walking around after talking to cops with no attorney.
Yes because alot of people don't leave the precinct
The fact they even sent this to a grand jury is sickening everyone of the questions that cop asked was ment to incriminate him the police are not here for our safety
Of course laws vary from state to state but in my state EVERY homicide - every last one of them; justifisble or not - has to go before a grand jury. I can only imagine it's the same in his state.
The cops suck in Sidney Ohio I live there
If you shoot someone, whether you think you were justified or not, you should be investigated hard. That's the job of the police. It's not the job of the police to determine guilt or innocence. It's also not their job to give you softball questions. Yes, it's a bad idea to consent to an interview without your attorney.
Lol don’t lie to police
1000%. sick fool - the state vs Man.
This man was put in a situation where he had to protect his family. The fact that the police would try and manipulate the situation is sickening! I’m glad he and his family are safe. This is totally illegal what they are doing and disgusting.
Of course they're going to try to manipulate things
If it looks like you _could_ have done wrong, but actually didn't, then you have a strong defence
The justice system would be a joke if a guy literally got shot and killed, and the shooter said "He was totally breaking in," and the authorities just accepted that
Without seeing all the evidence, the detectives have to go through all the motions. It is not illegal.. it is the law, and it is that law that protected Mitch Duckro too.
exactly.
@@adamheywood113
In today’s day and age I don’t think I would say anything more than “ I was in fear for myself and my families lives “. Law enforcement has lost my trust to be honest over the last 5 years.
Don't even say that. NEVER, EVER talk to the Police without a lawyer present!
Just ask for an attorney!
The fact this ever went to a grand jury is shocking and disgusting. Glad the grand jury did the right thing. The prosecutor should be charged with malicious prosecution.
@@MD-sj2dn my guess is they just went through the motions or something?
fear of what ? a little teenager with no weapon???
Sorry you were put in this situation sir. You did what needed to be done to stand your ground and defend your family. Prayers for healing 🙏
So you can break down a door with your feet. Guy was in no danger
@@pzak5927you sound like a criminal
@@pzak5927 who wasn't in danger?
@@pzak5927 yeah, happens all the time you PopTart.
Prayers do nothing except make the person praying feel like they're doing something when they're doing nothing. It's selfish self righteousness and all about you. Your mumbled words don't magically fly around the country healing people.