Bought in 2020 from a consignment when RV sales were on fire. Owner wanted a deposit that was refundable but with so many other people wanting the coach, we used our credit card. The consignment then charged twice, making an excuse that it was a mistake. We bought the coach and got our refund. Escrow for private party purchases is a great idea.
Just bought our 2nd used coach private party. For us, the big savings came in the form of sales taxes. Finding the right coach seems to be about as important as the right seller, though, if you're buying privately. A LOT of trust has to be shared in a very brief time. They're handing the keys over to their possession and you're turning loose huge sums of money and both are hoping that neither one is going to screw the other. Luckily, both of our purchases have went well, but it's very easy to see how quickly that could go wrong. Thanks for the great video!
I can see why some buyers want to leave a deposit, especially if a good "priced right" unit comes on the market. If you're lucky enough the see it first and don't leave a deposit (so you can arrange for an inspection) then the next guy in line may grab it.
If I sell my rv definitely an inspection will be done before putting in the market. The buyer can do another inspection if they want but at least they will have something to start the buying process.
Great information but all the back and forth walking was distracting. We just flew from AZ to SC to purchase a used RV and got lucky with our experience. We did a FaceTime call with the seller to go over everything in detail. Your information is important to share as there are scams out there. We are now selling our other RV and it’s not easy doing on our own. BTW, so thankful that you, Shea and your pups are okay after that terrible fire. Hang in there. Scottsdale fan here rooting for you two.
We purchased our rig several states away in 3-5 days (with two years preparation). We narrowed down the models / years / price we wanted to only a couple of different motorhomes. We also wanted to purchase from an owner not a dealer (after purchasing multiple RVs from dealers over the years we preferred to avoid dealers at almost all costs... still do). It really was a pretty narrow search pattern. After a couple years of looking we had called on few and passed, but we eventually found one that seemed to be a good match. I called the owner and chatted for a while, the next day we did a video tour of it with phones and computers (We simply used Apple's FaceTime). The owners sent me copies of all the pertinent documents we requested (mostly purchase & maintenance records). With the VIN and other numbers we called the engine mfgr, trans mfgr, coach manufacturer and asked about recalls, work done and generally vetted the circumstances as much as we could. Satisfied with all of that, we agreed with the owners on a price based upon his description, our research and public value records like Kelly's blue book, etc. (thinking back, we tend to recall it was just priced at the average price and the owners were hoping for a quick sale based upon their own personal circumstances and we were okay with that as well). We then arranged to fly myself to where the rig was and inspect it in a the next day or two, my wife staying home to deal with sales / financial issues that might come up I could not handle if I was traveling). BEFORE leaving we made financial arrangements that once there, the rig was visually inspected and we all still agreed on price and such, we could wire the money direct to an account he wanted it wired to and he'd sign the title over right then and there in their office (like an office of a well known financial advisor, brokerage or bank). There was no mortgages or liens on this motorhome. The inspection was just based upon my experience as an owner of several RVs and what many would call my meticulous care of them, how normal wear and tear would look, make a general judgement on how they took care of it, and just getting a feel for the owners in general... their reason for selling, how they used it, etc., etc. Since it was only a year old, I was not concerned so much with the drive train as they were all still under warranty (and I'd seen the maintenance and repair records which indicated they had taken care of issues accordingly when they came up). In the end, we purchased a motorhome very quickly, 3-5 days, for a fair value for both sides, with minimal drama. We are still happy with our purchase after 6-7 years (okay, okay... most days then). In retrospect, it was a hectic 3-5 days, but being focused on what we wanted, doing research beforehand, being honest, looking for a good value purchase for both purchaser and seller, and being prepared to execute a deal made it work for us. It may have been just payback karma after dealing with dealer and manufacturer BS over the years, but I'd choose to do it this way again in a NY minute!
I am a big believer in our friend Terry Smith with Kenai Coach. Terry is super honest and also is a phone call away after the sell. He is the only dealer I personally will ever buy from. I highly recommend Terry.
From a seller's point-of-view: About 10 years ago, I sold a 1973 GMC II motorhome. (The GMC II was a group of fewer than 20 motorhomes that had enjoyed frame-off restorations during the mid-1990's by the Explorer Van company in Indiana). While the market has gone crazy for GMC's generally in recent years, the GMC II - even then - was a very desirable model. I advertised it on a GMC Forum and got several SERIOUS inquiries from all over the country. I'm in Connecticut, so, understanding it might take a buyer some time to inspect and complete the sale, I insisted on a 10% down deposit - only conditionally refundable. That is, because - upon receipt of deposit - I took the coach off-the-market - If the seller didn't complete the sale and I was unable to sell it for at least the price I agreed to, the cancellation would have "cost" me. Turns out, the buyer and his wife flew-in from the Southwest USA the following weekend (with a bank check we "cleared" Monday morning) and drove 2,000 miles home Tuesday.
Buying a brand new RV from a dealership could also become a NIGHTMARE. My son Traded in his 2019 Montana for a brand new 2 bedroom JAYCO because he has an 11 year old daughter. He travels for work and it was becoming unreasonable to make his daughter sleep in the living room on the drop down sofa that turns into a queen. After the purchase , he experienced nothing but problems. Long Story short. The JAYCO 5th wheel had electrical problems. The power chord melted and the 100 foot was replaced by a 50 foot until they could order him his original 100 foot. Total electrical inspection. In the shop for 4 months. This is less than 30 days after purchase. Following day after picking up , he experienced a fire due to same electrical problems that were not fixed. RV.... BACK TO DEALER. 2nd time. RV was at dealership for 6 months waiting on WIRING HARNESS from JAYCO FACTORY. FIRE was at the same location as the first small fire. This one was much bigger and burned at the plug in and burnt about 2 feet of fiberglass gel coat. Only his wife and daughter were in the 5th wheel because he had left for work. Mind you this is the following day after being assured all was repaired. He has had the RV now for a total of 8 months. 7 months in the repair shop at the dealership. One AXLE out of alignment. Wearing tire almost bald on one side. Trip Boise Idaho to Cleveland, Ohio. NOT COVERED BY THE DEALERSHIP EVEN WITH EXTENDED WARRANTY. RVS ARE TRASH BUILT NOWADAYS. BUYERS BE VERY AWARE.!!!
Wish I had Andrew Steele RUclips vids 5 yrs ago when we bought our RV We’ve almost replaced , repaired or just done without on everything in this 2006 Gulfstream But learned a lot , especially how to get things repaired I’ll be ready for the next purchase thx Andrew
Excellent advice Andrew and sadly more apt today than ever before. People are after your hard earned money and they will do anything possible to take it and run. Having an escrow account secures both parties in this situation and, might I add that you should put down in writing subject to a professional inspection. If you are not an engineer or familiar with the inner workings of an RV the best investment you can make is to have the vehicle fully inspected by someone with a good reputation. Sometimes even the owners are unaware of potential problems or issues. You can always renegotiate the price should something costly become apparent. Listen to Andrew is my advice and don’t get scammed. Happy RVing 💕🍀💫
I did this once on a truck.....it was exactly what I was looking for....price was right.....pics looked good...I over nighted a $1000 deposit because it was going to be 5 days before I could actually get there.....when I finally saw the truck....it wasn't what I was expecting. And since the guy held the truck for me for a number of days he would not give my deposit back. Expensive lesson learned. Here's another note.....one person's idea of "like new" may be someone else's idea of "well used".
I laugh when I see ads for RV's that look like sh-t inside but the description says otherwise OR they simply emphasize the "low miles." What good are low miles if it leaks like a sieve or has other problems. Thankfully, some people aren't smart with their listings.
Andrew: I agree with many of the things you have said. We are in the process of selling our 2016 Allegro Bus 37AP. We have a buyer who we have agreed to a price, (reduced from our asking price) but wanted to have us wait for a month before they came and picked it up. I don't mind the wait, but told them I would not take it off the market without a deposit. They agreed, and as far as I am concerned we have a deal but I also told them that I would refund the deposit if they decide not to purchase it after an inspection that they want to do themselves. I am confident that the coach will pass there inspection. While there may be unscrupulous people out there acting as sellers, from a sellers point of view, there are also buyers who want to scam people. I have insisted that the rest of the funds be wired to my bank and will not take a "cashiers" check for payment. Sorry about no "cashiers check" but many banks actually only issue "counter" checks which look official but are not the same as a cashiers check and if you aren't familiar with the bank that issues it you may lose out.
Last time I took a cashiers check to sellers bank they said after two weeks and the check cleared they would send me the title. They sent the seller the title. If I were ever to do again I would wire the bank they money while setting in their lobby and walk away with the title. These big banks "Bank of the west" did not even have the title at the bank. If you buy a financed RV escrow is the only way to go as banks cover themselves and could care less about the buyer!
Excellent video and great advice, Andrew, thank you. I have always wondered how to ensure that private party transactions are successfully and safely conducted, purchasing an RV, whether new or used, is a big ticket purchase and as such scammers are increasingly trying to take advantage, you need to do your due diligence on both sides of the equation, as a buyer or seller.
This is good advice for any high dollar sale. The key is listen to your gut, it something is telling you it is a bad deal or something is not right, walk away. There are plenty of these out there. I fully agree with a self-inspection (is this what I want, if I can see the problems there is something to discuss) then move to a private inspection. That gives you negotiation points. If a seller, not matter which kind, pushes for sale now now now don't get an inspection, RLH in the other direction. While never an RV, as the occasional seller I would welcome the inspection to ensure I am not knowingly misrepresenting. Finally, I would not do a private deposit. If it sells to the next person with a bag of money it was not meant to be.
With a diesel pusher, never believe what the speedometer says look in the computer for the mileage. The computer has a serial as well. This might be true for other buses as well. You need the Detroit software to do it on my favorite the v60.
Only the scammers will hate you for making this video. Anyone who knows you knows your work you’re a solid guy in the industry. Also, I thought you were doing paid buyer inspections at one point, Andrew.
One more note. I bought a used Diesel pusher from La Mesa RV in Mesa, Az. a few months ago. When we did the walk through the dash air was blowing warm air ( it was 114 degrees that day). We also noticed the frig was not cold. The salesman and the man doing the walk through both told use it takes about 24 hours for the frig to cool down and assured us the frig is fine. They fixed the dash air while we went and got a bite to eat. I drove the coach home and plugged it in to 220. The next day the frig was still warm. I called them about this and they said did you get it in writing. I said no. I took your word that it would work. So I got stuck with a 2600 dollar repair bill. What a bunch of crooks. My advise, Don't trust anything a dealer tells you and get everything in writing.
Hay Andrew where did you wonderful people end up in Fl. My wife and I are in Sebring with our 45 / 04 / HR . You 2 are very encouraging after seeing you travesty . We have been praying for both of you guys .
Buying from a private party is really not that big of a deal. As when you purchase the vehicle, you get a bill of sale. If your not ready to purchase but want the vehicle/RV, simply draw up a deposit agreement with both signatures. As with both situations, be sure to take a picture of both the sellers I.D. (drivers license) with yours along with the contracts before any money is passed. Always also have a way to prove payment. Easy Peezy!
Andrew. Love your videos ! (sorry about your last Prevost) Hope to buy a coach someday soon and I am a good mechanic by trade but have no experience with coachs. How should I proceed, hire an inspector ?
Every RV I have bought and sold, I had a deposit as part of the deal. It eliminates the tire kickers from the real deal! I have done all of the negotiating and inspecting as well. When I have an RV for sale, I am with the potential buyers and go over everything on the rig. Not sure about dumping of the tanks, but not a bad idea if that is available. When I sold my first Foretravel, I had 3 buyers wanting that coach and I asked for a $5k non refundable deposit so as to eliminate losing all 3. The buyer came through and all was good. I think a lot depends on the seller and buyer as to what takes place. I would never buy anything sight unseen.
I am in the RV business up here in BC. travel trailers camper vans and class c motorhomes if priced right they sell within minutes on marketplace. i sold one and the lady told me she was beat out for the last year trying to buy one and she was over the moon she finely bought one for a good deal.
I think your giving good info especially about the payment process I actually got caught up in scam about 10 yrs ago buying one online out of state lost about three grand deposit very frustrating it happens
Sold my 13 Phaeton twice. Once was to a party that I didn’t take a deposit and the buyer backed out due to financing.and over extended. Had coach off market almost 3 weeks before he backed out. The second buyer I required a $500 non refundable deposit if buyer backed out the $500 was mine. Always ask for a deposit when a agreement on price has been completed. If I did it again I would do $1,000 deposit.
I have what I call the give me a call at this time buddies. While I’m at the dealer or seller my phone will ring, on the phone is my buddy pretending to be another seller 😂 you’re right..people need to do their homework before going on big ticket purchase’s. The truth is, I subscribed to your channel just for this reason. I’m in the market for an RV. To me this isn’t like buying semi trucks, there’s a lot more to it. Thanks for all the informational videos.
Here is what I see after three high end coaches. The dealer can be zero help or some help. Most of them wash and wax and hope you are not educated. The obvious things like a foggy window might get fixed but I promise you will not get much info about air bags, front suspension , inverters, unless the issues are obvious. You really need two inspections. Taking Prevost as an example: 1. Prevost company pre purchase inspection. Their forte is chassis, engine , generator, transmission and that is very important. Delamination alone could be 30k. Mechanical could easily be another 20k on a 10 yr plus coach. All of the stuff that you can’t see is more important than what you can see. So let Prevost do their thing but keep in mind they are not well versed on the house side. Each convertor does their own thing. That is why Liberty costs more for example. You would want a guy like James at Premium Coach group to do the house inspection. The fact that they would employee a guy like that is a point in their behalf.
And definitely chk the roof or have it chkd carefully. All the rest of andrews facts are great And also a lot of sellers just don’t have a clue what they have and what condition it’s in.
Sounds like you did your own inspection in Oklahoma. You don't happen to know a good inspector in Oklahoma do you? We're working two deals right now and are looking for an inspector here in Central Oklahoma.
You write an airtight deposit agreement with the seller, whether it be a private party or a dealer, that stipulates this is a deposit and I have 10 days to get the coach inspected and if at the end of that inspection I decide not to purchase the coach, the deposit is fully refundable. If they don’t refund the money, it’s the best recourse of anything and that is to file a lawsuit against either the private party or the dealer, so I don’t agree with you on this one, Andrew. Having said that, nobody likes to litigate, but you do what you gotta do.
I love your videos, and I'm reluctant to criticize anything about you, but in this video, you keep walking forward and backward against the brick backdrop. I was starting to get sea sick... Other than that, I usually love your videos, but this one was driving me crazy! Thanks for your time & efforts in providing valuable info.
And here I thought your buyer beware advice was to not buy a 350k non-slide Liberty.🤣 As crazy as pricing is right now he might just get it one of these days.
Comment.....Andrew nice video.....but do everyone a favor and stop walking forward and backward......glue or nail your shoes down so you stay still.....
I really enjoy watching your channel however if you could stop walking forward and backwards that would really help out I'm getting nauseous watching you walk forward and backward with the wall behind you I'm now dizzy
Bought in 2020 from a consignment when RV sales were on fire. Owner wanted a deposit that was refundable but with so many other people wanting the coach, we used our credit card. The consignment then charged twice, making an excuse that it was a mistake. We bought the coach and got our refund. Escrow for private party purchases is a great idea.
Just bought our 2nd used coach private party. For us, the big savings came in the form of sales taxes. Finding the right coach seems to be about as important as the right seller, though, if you're buying privately. A LOT of trust has to be shared in a very brief time. They're handing the keys over to their possession and you're turning loose huge sums of money and both are hoping that neither one is going to screw the other. Luckily, both of our purchases have went well, but it's very easy to see how quickly that could go wrong. Thanks for the great video!
I can see why some buyers want to leave a deposit, especially if a good "priced right" unit comes on the market. If you're lucky enough the see it first and don't leave a deposit (so you can arrange for an inspection) then the next guy in line may grab it.
You're a solid Andrew. May your coffers always be over-filled with riches for your hard work.
Excellent comments and advice. Thank you Andrew! Happy trails!
Yes Andrew, we love your work. Thanks for the great advice. Have you purchased another coach yet?
You drop a lot of gems for the people we appreciate you bro 💯💪🏾✅
If I sell my rv definitely an inspection will be done before putting in the market. The buyer can do another inspection if they want but at least they will have something to start the buying process.
Great information but all the back and forth walking was distracting. We just flew from AZ to SC to purchase a used RV and got lucky with our experience. We did a FaceTime call with the seller to go over everything in detail. Your information is important to share as there are scams out there. We are now selling our other RV and it’s not easy doing on our own. BTW, so thankful that you, Shea and your pups are okay after that terrible fire. Hang in there. Scottsdale fan here rooting for you two.
We purchased our rig several states away in 3-5 days (with two years preparation). We narrowed down the models / years / price we wanted to only a couple of different motorhomes. We also wanted to purchase from an owner not a dealer (after purchasing multiple RVs from dealers over the years we preferred to avoid dealers at almost all costs... still do). It really was a pretty narrow search pattern. After a couple years of looking we had called on few and passed, but we eventually found one that seemed to be a good match. I called the owner and chatted for a while, the next day we did a video tour of it with phones and computers (We simply used Apple's FaceTime). The owners sent me copies of all the pertinent documents we requested (mostly purchase & maintenance records). With the VIN and other numbers we called the engine mfgr, trans mfgr, coach manufacturer and asked about recalls, work done and generally vetted the circumstances as much as we could. Satisfied with all of that, we agreed with the owners on a price based upon his description, our research and public value records like Kelly's blue book, etc. (thinking back, we tend to recall it was just priced at the average price and the owners were hoping for a quick sale based upon their own personal circumstances and we were okay with that as well). We then arranged to fly myself to where the rig was and inspect it in a the next day or two, my wife staying home to deal with sales / financial issues that might come up I could not handle if I was traveling). BEFORE leaving we made financial arrangements that once there, the rig was visually inspected and we all still agreed on price and such, we could wire the money direct to an account he wanted it wired to and he'd sign the title over right then and there in their office (like an office of a well known financial advisor, brokerage or bank). There was no mortgages or liens on this motorhome. The inspection was just based upon my experience as an owner of several RVs and what many would call my meticulous care of them, how normal wear and tear would look, make a general judgement on how they took care of it, and just getting a feel for the owners in general... their reason for selling, how they used it, etc., etc. Since it was only a year old, I was not concerned so much with the drive train as they were all still under warranty (and I'd seen the maintenance and repair records which indicated they had taken care of issues accordingly when they came up). In the end, we purchased a motorhome very quickly, 3-5 days, for a fair value for both sides, with minimal drama. We are still happy with our purchase after 6-7 years (okay, okay... most days then). In retrospect, it was a hectic 3-5 days, but being focused on what we wanted, doing research beforehand, being honest, looking for a good value purchase for both purchaser and seller, and being prepared to execute a deal made it work for us. It may have been just payback karma after dealing with dealer and manufacturer BS over the years, but I'd choose to do it this way again in a NY minute!
The brick building moving up and back behind you is extremely distracting
Yeah, great info but got nauseous watching that…
I am a big believer in our friend Terry Smith with Kenai Coach. Terry is super honest and also is a phone call away after the sell. He is the only dealer I personally will ever buy from. I highly recommend Terry.
Great information Andrew.
Hope y’all are recovering quickly.
Micky C
Your hotline business will blow up keep on pushing that..have it as a intro
From a seller's point-of-view: About 10 years ago, I sold a 1973 GMC II motorhome. (The GMC II was a group of fewer than 20 motorhomes that had enjoyed frame-off restorations during the mid-1990's by the Explorer Van company in Indiana). While the market has gone crazy for GMC's generally in recent years, the GMC II - even then - was a very desirable model. I advertised it on a GMC Forum and got several SERIOUS inquiries from all over the country. I'm in Connecticut, so, understanding it might take a buyer some time to inspect and complete the sale, I insisted on a 10% down deposit - only conditionally refundable. That is, because - upon receipt of deposit - I took the coach off-the-market - If the seller didn't complete the sale and I was unable to sell it for at least the price I agreed to, the cancellation would have "cost" me. Turns out, the buyer and his wife flew-in from the Southwest USA the following weekend (with a bank check we "cleared" Monday morning) and drove 2,000 miles home Tuesday.
Andrew, can you do a video on insuring one of this high end RVs? Also, glad you and your partner are doing ok after the fire. Best wishes.
Great suggestion!
Partner? How about “lady friend” , “girlfriend”, anything but “partner”. Europe and Australia have made intimate relationships sound… UN-emotional.
@T.E. Ross
I like partner. It's more accurate. They're your partner through life.
@T.E. Ross
I like partner. It's more accurate. They're your partner through life.
Thank you Andrew for the warnings and advice. Stay safe & well.
Buying a brand new RV from a dealership could also become a NIGHTMARE. My son Traded in his 2019 Montana for a brand new 2 bedroom JAYCO because he has an 11 year old daughter. He travels for work and it was becoming unreasonable to make his daughter sleep in the living room on the drop down sofa that turns into a queen. After the purchase , he experienced nothing but problems. Long Story short. The JAYCO 5th wheel had electrical problems. The power chord melted and the 100 foot was replaced by a 50 foot until they could order him his original 100 foot. Total electrical inspection. In the shop for 4 months. This is less than 30 days after purchase. Following day after picking up , he experienced a fire due to same electrical problems that were not fixed. RV.... BACK TO DEALER. 2nd time. RV was at dealership for 6 months waiting on WIRING HARNESS from JAYCO FACTORY. FIRE was at the same location as the first small fire. This one was much bigger and burned at the plug in and burnt about 2 feet of fiberglass gel coat. Only his wife and daughter were in the 5th wheel because he had left for work. Mind you this is the following day after being assured all was repaired. He has had the RV now for a total of 8 months. 7 months in the repair shop at the dealership. One AXLE out of alignment. Wearing tire almost bald on one side. Trip Boise Idaho to Cleveland, Ohio. NOT COVERED BY THE DEALERSHIP EVEN WITH EXTENDED WARRANTY. RVS ARE TRASH BUILT NOWADAYS. BUYERS BE VERY AWARE.!!!
Wish I had Andrew Steele RUclips vids 5 yrs ago when we bought our RV
We’ve almost replaced , repaired or just done without on everything in this 2006 Gulfstream
But learned a lot , especially how to get things repaired
I’ll be ready for the next purchase thx Andrew
Wow surprised to hear that about a Gulfsteam.😭
@@marilynlemus1139 it sat for 5 yrs out in a field ( Ohio weather)
Good info but Damn you got ants in your pants walking back-and-forth making me seasick….
Excellent advice Andrew and sadly more apt today than ever before. People are after your hard earned money and they will do anything possible to take it and run. Having an escrow account secures both parties in this situation and, might I add that you should put down in writing subject to a professional inspection. If you are not an engineer or familiar with the inner workings of an RV the best investment you can make is to have the vehicle fully inspected by someone with a good reputation. Sometimes even the owners are unaware of potential problems or issues. You can always renegotiate the price should something costly become apparent.
Listen to Andrew is my advice and don’t get scammed. Happy RVing 💕🍀💫
What was the cause of the fire on the Newell
I did this once on a truck.....it was exactly what I was looking for....price was right.....pics looked good...I over nighted a $1000 deposit because it was going to be 5 days before I could actually get there.....when I finally saw the truck....it wasn't what I was expecting. And since the guy held the truck for me for a number of days he would not give my deposit back. Expensive lesson learned. Here's another note.....one person's idea of "like new" may be someone else's idea of "well used".
I laugh when I see ads for RV's that look like sh-t inside but the description says otherwise OR they simply emphasize the "low miles." What good are low miles if it leaks like a sieve or has other problems. Thankfully, some people aren't smart with their listings.
Andrew: I agree with many of the things you have said. We are in the process of selling our 2016 Allegro Bus 37AP. We have a buyer who we have agreed to a price, (reduced from our asking price) but wanted to have us wait for a month before they came and picked it up. I don't mind the wait, but told them I would not take it off the market without a deposit. They agreed, and as far as I am concerned we have a deal but I also told them that I would refund the deposit if they decide not to purchase it after an inspection that they want to do themselves. I am confident that the coach will pass there inspection. While there may be unscrupulous people out there acting as sellers, from a sellers point of view, there are also buyers who want to scam people. I have insisted that the rest of the funds be wired to my bank and will not take a "cashiers" check for payment. Sorry about no "cashiers check" but many banks actually only issue "counter" checks which look official but are not the same as a cashiers check and if you aren't familiar with the bank that issues it you may lose out.
Last time I took a cashiers check to sellers bank they said after two weeks and the check cleared they would send me the title. They sent the seller the title. If I were ever to do again I would wire the bank they money while setting in their lobby and walk away with the title. These big banks "Bank of the west" did not even have the title at the bank. If you buy a financed RV escrow is the only way to go as banks cover themselves and could care less about the buyer!
Are you walking forward and back while you’re filming? STOP you’re giving me motion sickness!! 😂
If we ever upgrade, we will look to you for a PDI. Thanks for what you, and Shae, do.
Excellent video and great advice, Andrew, thank you. I have always wondered how to ensure that private party transactions are successfully and safely conducted, purchasing an RV, whether new or used, is a big ticket purchase and as such scammers are increasingly trying to take advantage, you need to do your due diligence on both sides of the equation, as a buyer or seller.
This is good advice for any high dollar sale. The key is listen to your gut, it something is telling you it is a bad deal or something is not right, walk away. There are plenty of these out there. I fully agree with a self-inspection (is this what I want, if I can see the problems there is something to discuss) then move to a private inspection. That gives you negotiation points.
If a seller, not matter which kind, pushes for sale now now now don't get an inspection, RLH in the other direction.
While never an RV, as the occasional seller I would welcome the inspection to ensure I am not knowingly misrepresenting.
Finally, I would not do a private deposit. If it sells to the next person with a bag of money it was not meant to be.
Thank you Andrew for the great info'' happy travels to you
Great advice Andrew!
Keep up the good work
With a diesel pusher, never believe what the speedometer says look in the computer for the mileage. The computer has a serial as well. This might be true for other buses as well. You need the Detroit software to do it on my favorite the v60.
Only the scammers will hate you for making this video. Anyone who knows you knows your work you’re a solid guy in the industry. Also, I thought you were doing paid buyer inspections at one point, Andrew.
One more note. I bought a used Diesel pusher from La Mesa RV in Mesa, Az. a few months ago. When we did the walk through the dash air was blowing warm air ( it was 114 degrees that day). We also noticed the frig was not cold. The salesman and the man doing the walk through both told use it takes about 24 hours for the frig to cool down and assured us the frig is fine. They fixed the dash air while we went and got a bite to eat. I drove the coach home and plugged it in to 220. The next day the frig was still warm. I called them about this and they said did you get it in writing. I said no. I took your word that it would work. So I got stuck with a 2600 dollar repair bill. What a bunch of crooks. My advise, Don't trust anything a dealer tells you and get everything in writing.
Wow! so sorry to hear that but it doesn't surprise me.
Thanks for letting us know but I'm sorry you got scammed by liars. I hope you've left an online review.
Hay Andrew where did you wonderful people end up in Fl. My wife and I are in Sebring with our 45 / 04 / HR . You 2 are very encouraging after seeing you travesty . We have been praying for both of you guys .
Buying from a private party is really not that big of a deal. As when you purchase the vehicle, you get a bill of sale. If your not ready to purchase but want the vehicle/RV, simply draw up a deposit agreement with both signatures. As with both situations, be sure to take a picture of both the sellers I.D. (drivers license) with yours along with the contracts before any money is passed. Always also have a way to prove payment. Easy Peezy!
Great advice as always,thx.
Andrew. Love your videos ! (sorry about your last Prevost) Hope to buy a coach someday soon and I am a good mechanic by trade but have no experience with coachs. How should I proceed, hire an inspector ?
You are so right ! Good advise for newbies
Great video Andrew stay safe and stay healthy brother
Get a local attorney to oversee the transaction and handle the deposit in an escrow account.
Every RV I have bought and sold, I had a deposit as part of the deal. It eliminates the tire kickers from the real deal! I have done all of the negotiating and inspecting as well. When I have an RV for sale, I am with the potential buyers and go over everything on the rig. Not sure about dumping of the tanks, but not a bad idea if that is available. When I sold my first Foretravel, I had 3 buyers wanting that coach and I asked for a $5k non refundable deposit so as to eliminate losing all 3. The buyer came through and all was good. I think a lot depends on the seller and buyer as to what takes place. I would never buy anything sight unseen.
But only the one who bought it put down the 5k, right?
Get a contract from dealer or private party dealership can keep deposit depending on state law. Always ask for copy of title.
I am in the RV business up here in BC. travel trailers camper vans and class c motorhomes if priced right they sell within minutes on marketplace. i sold one and the lady told me she was beat out for the last year trying to buy one and she was over the moon she finely bought one for a good deal.
I think your giving good info especially about the payment process I actually got caught up in scam about 10 yrs ago buying one online out of state lost about three grand deposit very frustrating it happens
Sold my 13 Phaeton twice. Once was to a party that I didn’t take a deposit and the buyer backed out due to financing.and over extended. Had coach off market almost 3 weeks before he backed out. The second buyer I required a $500 non refundable deposit if buyer backed out the $500 was mine. Always ask for a deposit when a agreement on price has been completed. If I did it again I would do $1,000 deposit.
thank you Andrew for that information ☺️
Great info as always.
Glad you are doing well
I have what I call the give me a call at this time buddies. While I’m at the dealer or seller my phone will ring, on the phone is my buddy pretending to be another seller 😂 you’re right..people need to do their homework before going on big ticket purchase’s. The truth is, I subscribed to your channel just for this reason. I’m in the market for an RV. To me this isn’t like buying semi trucks, there’s a lot more to it. Thanks for all the informational videos.
Anything approaching 6 figures I'm going to escrow, not a 2nd thought.
As a seller I would not ask for a deposit just to view the coach. It serves no purpose for a private seller except to complicate the transaction.
Great video, Good advice 👍
Here is what I see after three high end coaches. The dealer can be zero help or some help. Most of them wash and wax and hope you are not educated. The obvious things like a foggy window might get fixed but I promise you will not get much info about air bags, front suspension , inverters, unless the issues are obvious. You really need two inspections. Taking Prevost as an example: 1. Prevost company pre purchase inspection. Their forte is chassis, engine , generator, transmission and that is very important. Delamination alone could be 30k. Mechanical could easily be another 20k on a 10 yr plus coach. All of the stuff that you can’t see is more important than what you can see. So let Prevost do their thing but keep in mind they are not well versed on the house side. Each convertor does their own thing. That is why Liberty costs more for example.
You would want a guy like James at Premium Coach group
to do the house inspection. The fact that they would employee a guy like that is a point in their behalf.
To continue, I would like to see more emphasis by Andrew and others on the kind if things that could leave you on the side if the road.
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Stop moving back and forth I'm getting dizzy, damn.
Hi Andrew I'm not a mechanic nor am I an electrician. Is it really worth it t buy a RV if you know something is going to go wrong?
And definitely chk the roof or have it chkd carefully. All the rest of andrews facts are great
And also a lot of sellers just don’t have a clue what they have and what condition it’s in.
Awesome video!
Great information but please hold still. 🦅👍😎🇺🇸
Andrew, how are you doing with your situation? Any positive interactions with insurance company? Thinking about a replacement coach?
2006 Itasca suncruiser 35k pretty nice full body paint there asking 75k what do you think? Lol
Very informative, thank you .
Sounds like you did your own inspection in Oklahoma. You don't happen to know a good inspector in Oklahoma do you? We're working two deals right now and are looking for an inspector here in
Central Oklahoma.
Great info thank you
You can draw up a contract for the deposit and protect your money
You write an airtight deposit agreement with the seller, whether it be a private party or a dealer, that stipulates this is a deposit and I have 10 days to get the coach inspected and if at the end of that inspection I decide not to purchase the coach, the deposit is fully refundable. If they don’t refund the money, it’s the best recourse of anything and that is to file a lawsuit against either the private party or the dealer, so I don’t agree with you on this one, Andrew. Having said that, nobody likes to litigate, but you do what you gotta do.
Great information sir..... thank you
Thanks, good info, please hold still....haha!
Great info. Can someone pay a broker (like you) to do it for a buyer?
Thanks love your video
I love your videos, and I'm reluctant to criticize anything about you, but in this video, you keep walking forward and backward against the brick backdrop.
I was starting to get sea sick...
Other than that, I usually love your videos, but this one was driving me crazy!
Thanks for your time & efforts in providing valuable info.
Probably nervous reaction from stress relating to the crisis he's been through. We all wish him the best going forward.
always have 4 eyes instead of two
Was your coach inspected by a professional inspector?
And here I thought your buyer beware advice was to not buy a 350k non-slide Liberty.🤣
As crazy as pricing is right now he might just get it one of these days.
No deposit directly to the seller I will rather open an scrow account in a bank. Money will be secure for both party .
Please , Next time Stand Still , do not walk foward and back , the whole time , I got Sea Sick or something !
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Comment.....Andrew nice video.....but do everyone a favor and stop walking forward and backward......glue or nail your shoes down so you stay still.....
I really enjoy watching your channel however if you could stop walking forward and backwards that would really help out I'm getting nauseous watching you walk forward and backward with the wall behind you I'm now dizzy
I got dizzy too.😭
Video content is great; however, you need to stop walking backwards and forwards, it nauseating
nice video, however you need to sit at a desk or stand still your movement made me feel dizzy. ha
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