Tina Knowles gives brief history of Beyonce

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  • @cassidydonshae398
    @cassidydonshae398 3 года назад +69

    Parents who say.....man to have a child like that! Remember it comes with Parents who are driven, and willing to sacrifice it all

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 года назад +22

      Agree every time I hear Beyonce's back story I always say she was so lucky to have the parents she had without them her dreams very well might have never materialised so many parents push their children into being doctors lawyers and teachers and Beyonce's parents didn't push her into the status quo they saw her potential and worked hard to ensure that it would happen all compliments go to them for believing in their daughter and not trampolining on their dreams

    • @Lovelyone1
      @Lovelyone1 Год назад +3

      @@Model_Roe well a lot of kids are directed into high paying positions (like doctors, lawyers, engineers) because like Beyoncé’s parents…they see their child’s talent. My teenage son showed at a very early age abilities that were very inline with engineering. That was his talent and that’s his concentration in high school now. He’s very good at that kind of stuff.

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe Год назад +2

      @@Lovelyone1 ? I think you're missing the point I was trying to make altogether those jobs are part of the status quo and therefore seen as safe for a child to come to their parents declaring they want to be a entertainer or singer in Beyonce's case something outside of the status quo most parents would freak not only is it seen az rogue but because of the high level of competition the chance of succeeding are pretty low the fact that Beyonce's parents recognised and saw their daughters talent and potential and did all they can to help her succeed instead of trying to impose on to her the status quo because it's seen as more acceptable by society standards as safe and normal eg engineer doctor etc says more about them than anything it's because of them why we have Beyonce imagine if they had killed her dreams and told her to be a dentist lol that's the point I'm making this has nothing to do with your son as I don't know him or you personally this is the overall point I'm making

    • @jujuaroha5822
      @jujuaroha5822 Год назад

      ​@@Lovelyone1no one cares

    • @TheWoodland12
      @TheWoodland12 11 месяцев назад

      @@jujuaroha5822mam I’m not trying to be disrespectful but you are the only one with a mean comment like this. The people above got it right by explaining and understanding each other without being mean and nasty. I am not looking forward to growing up if most grownups are mean like your comment.

  • @aprilleigh-williams6797
    @aprilleigh-williams6797 10 лет назад +164

    That's a strong woman. Carrying the load of the family.

    • @AshleyMadisonsRight
      @AshleyMadisonsRight 5 лет назад +3

      You don't know if she told her husband to quit his job so she can keep HER salon.

  • @lgoffigan
    @lgoffigan 9 лет назад +74

    "You got to be happy with who you are"

    • @lgoffigan
      @lgoffigan 8 лет назад +1

      If you are not happy with who you are then where are you in the scheme of things?
      Something for your to think about Tony Munoz.

    • @lgoffigan
      @lgoffigan 8 лет назад +2

      Exactly right.

    • @lgoffigan
      @lgoffigan 7 лет назад +1

      Totally agree!

  • @kamelajameel2976
    @kamelajameel2976 Год назад +10

    look at her now. the artist with the most grammy awards🥺🙏🏾❤️

  • @googooberries
    @googooberries 12 лет назад +76

    bey and her mom are soo much alike. her mom is so beautiful! and they sound a lot alike!

  • @dessy3036
    @dessy3036 8 лет назад +70

    they sound so much alike omg😱

  • @msrita
    @msrita 2 года назад +18

    I miss survivor songs . Im glad I grew listening to someone with integrity and good morals

    • @onezero8570
      @onezero8570 Год назад +1

      ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤💘

  • @beyonceyemoja1773
    @beyonceyemoja1773 4 года назад +26

    I love this and yeah Beyoncé is definitely showing Blue Ivy all the hard work that comes with it. Homecoming documentary footage of Blue in rehearsals. Blue Ivy is a star ⭐️💙

    • @spicypeppy
      @spicypeppy Год назад +1

      From one generation to the next makes sense.

  • @ebks6161
    @ebks6161 10 лет назад +139

    Tina is an inspiration. Great mom.

  • @thatssobea
    @thatssobea 10 лет назад +131

    we know where she gets her voice from

    • @edinshealtiel3754
      @edinshealtiel3754 4 года назад +4

      Not just the voice it's the dance and intelligence that counts.....

    • @bambinojordanie2156
      @bambinojordanie2156 4 года назад +4

      Yeah SashaFierce the spirit dat possesed her since 2oo3

    • @rydercdaniels4475
      @rydercdaniels4475 4 года назад +8

      Bambino Jordanie ya’ll are dumb. Sasha fierce is nothing more than fun alter-ego she uses to give her more confidence on stage

    • @sheritaskitchen1820
      @sheritaskitchen1820 2 года назад

      @@bambinojordanie2156 ❤

    • @Giselle_Glam594
      @Giselle_Glam594 2 года назад

      ​@@edinshealtiel3754 what intelligence? their speaking voices are HORRIBLE🤣

  • @Soso-ou2mz
    @Soso-ou2mz 6 лет назад +61

    She's a great woman! I highly respect her

  • @frejjay
    @frejjay 9 лет назад +88

    the same voice as Beyonce!

  • @joymechell277
    @joymechell277 6 лет назад +24

    "If Beyoncé had a daughter , would she let her do it ?" Honey , Blue is already doing the most 😂😂👸🏽 already making appearances in her parents videos and features on songs . And she's full of sass and 🔥🔥 I think she'll do something musical in the future . It's in her blood

  • @froofroodabouifoubebe3239
    @froofroodabouifoubebe3239 8 лет назад +113

    For those of you saying she bleached her skin, she literally looks light skin in all her videos and interviews. It's just the lighting and age of the camera makes her look darker or lighter in some instances. But you can tell she has kept the same skin tone. And even if she did bleach her skin, who the fuck cares? It's her body! Stop trying to hate.

    • @froofroodabouifoubebe3239
      @froofroodabouifoubebe3239 7 лет назад

      ***** Lmao,where else have you seen me? I swear I be lurking XD

    • @tavareshiggs5998
      @tavareshiggs5998 7 лет назад +9

      +africanpride Beyonce is still Black, an never denied that, and her momma and Daddy and sister are too, Her mother is mixed with French and so are they. An they're and very proud of theyre History.This Why I say that some black folks can be Racist too and unfortunately with they own kind we ppl or Haters like u. Just because Beyonce don't have chocolate colored skin does not mean that she's not black. She can't help what color her skin is nor should she try because of ignorant people like you just to make ppl like you feel better.Now if she didn't claim the black side of her haters would have a cow an have a Real issue besides Being Envious or intimidated her or other stupid reasons. instead haters should have a real issue with females have it easy being slutty and sleeping their way to the top instead of hard work and staying true to themselves instead depending on looks to get them Success. Because to be honest with you Beyonce's Gorgeous an was a video girl once for the artist "Case" an could have easily took advantage and Depended on her Looks alone to get her to success an could have alerted around to get to the Top if she chose to but instead she listened to her Momma an used her Talentan Hard work instead for her Success.Beyonce could be the one that have an issue with the females that depend on they looks an sleep they way to the top for Money and success an would have every right to if she wanted to but she's not thinkin about them but instead they an other Haters are Envious of her tho even tho she worked for hers, all 465 million without Taking her Clothes off!!!But u and the rest of her Haters chose to have a issue with her an her skin color and everything else that's not important! Go get yo life cause u sound Dumb!!!

    • @celestematthews3266
      @celestematthews3266 6 лет назад +2

      Froofroo Dabouifoubebe Beyonce tan her skin not bleach

    • @nylabellinger1767
      @nylabellinger1767 4 года назад

      Her mom is mix not her

    • @nylabellinger1767
      @nylabellinger1767 4 года назад

      @@celestematthews3266 her mom is mox not her

  • @diamondjewels1944
    @diamondjewels1944 10 лет назад +92

    I KNOW HER DAD IS SLAPPING HIS SELF RIGHT NOW AND SAYING I NEVER SHOULD HAVE CHEATED.

    • @KiyokoHairston
      @KiyokoHairston 6 лет назад +7

      you might be right. but, I doubt it. He knew what he was doing. He obviously didn't care. I am sure he is still rich though.

    • @slutzdgaf
      @slutzdgaf 4 года назад +4

      Ppl know exactly what they're doing when they cheat, he ain't slapping nothing. He should be very disappointed in himself though

    • @sheritaskitchen1820
      @sheritaskitchen1820 2 года назад +1

      @@KiyokoHairston he's broke now lol

  • @whitneysamone4075
    @whitneysamone4075 6 лет назад +17

    They look alike and sound so much alike ☺️♥️

  • @kittylady6946
    @kittylady6946 8 лет назад +64

    God Beyoncé is gorgeous.

  • @johnraven891
    @johnraven891 5 лет назад +22

    Beyonce brings people together

  • @johnjohnson8181
    @johnjohnson8181 11 лет назад +29

    I dint know Matthew quit his job! Reminds me of how Michael Jackson's father went out of his way to get them into the industry too.

    • @lokeyborders
      @lokeyborders 6 лет назад

      He lost his job. Matthew was a drug and sex addict. It's all lies about he quit his job and they downsized. They did downsize but it was not by choice. Beyonce and her family are liars and they fake.

    • @arankathir6701
      @arankathir6701 3 года назад +5

      @@lokeyborders Did Beyoncé tell you this herself? LMFAO ur such a loser.

    • @lokeyborders
      @lokeyborders 3 года назад

      @@arankathir6701
      Yes bey told me herself dummy. Go do some research. Then come back at me.

    • @mariahyohannes
      @mariahyohannes 3 года назад

      @@lokeyborders Where did you hear that?

    • @lokeyborders
      @lokeyborders 3 года назад

      @@mariahyohannes
      The vocal coach. He lived in the home with them for almost 10yrs. If he was lying you know Bey and Matthew would have shut him down. Others have said it through out the years.

  • @0Lu.Lu0
    @0Lu.Lu0 8 лет назад +13

    0:49 Ms Tina reminds me of my aunt Sandra. She is gangsta, you can just tell. How she traded up on a nigga so quick after he decided to start his indiscriminate seeding despite 30 years of marriage and two beautiful successful daughters? SLAY.

  • @ebony38ish
    @ebony38ish 11 лет назад +45

    Her father gave up a lot for her/the group..yes, he did his dirt (fathered another child outside of his marriage) but...she should credit him for some of her success!

    • @KiyokoHairston
      @KiyokoHairston 6 лет назад +6

      some? all!!!!!

    • @lokeyborders
      @lokeyborders 6 лет назад +9

      No not her dad but her voice coach is why destiny child got to where they are. But no one speaks about him. David Lee brewer. He lived in the home with them for at least 7 years. It's so much people dont know. It's sad and wicked how the Knowles treated this man and the other members of destiny child. Do your research. They some snakes. Matthew got his karma now tina and beyonce got theirs coming.

    • @baddiezone
      @baddiezone 2 года назад +1

      @@lokeyborders I agree they really should give more credit to Matthew, but twisted thinking can prevent that .

    • @sheritaskitchen1820
      @sheritaskitchen1820 2 года назад +1

      ❤ yes some fathers do worse things than that and they would not have had a Beyonce today,you're right but you make people rich and they change on you are act different she forgave Jay-Z all them times

    • @sheritaskitchen1820
      @sheritaskitchen1820 2 года назад

      @@lokeyborders lol wow really? But I like your comment,what goes comes but Beyonce didn't do nothing but sell her soul lol right?

  • @dianelong6886
    @dianelong6886 6 лет назад +11

    Hard work and determination❤️👍💰☝️

  • @linahorn2797
    @linahorn2797 6 лет назад +36

    Beyoncés sounds just like her mothers

  • @pamelanichols3122
    @pamelanichols3122 6 лет назад +6

    Yess , Mom taught her well , Peace N Blessings !

  • @Giselle_Glam594
    @Giselle_Glam594 2 года назад +13

    Tina lived her life through bey

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 года назад +6

      True 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I always thought the same thing same thing with Aaliyah's mother who pushed Aaliyah into Entertainment because she herself wanted to be a singer when she was growing up but never got the opportunity so she pushed her daughter to be what she wished she could be I think Tina back in her younger days wanted to be some kind of showgirl and pushed Beyonce because it was her way of living vicariously through her

    • @californiadreaming5638
      @californiadreaming5638 Год назад +1

      Nothing wrong with that! Her daughter is a part of her and came to this earthly existence through her.

    • @californiadreaming5638
      @californiadreaming5638 Год назад

      ​@@Model_Roe What's hilarious? Nothing wrong with that! Her daughter is a part of her and came to this earthly existence through her. Like Beyonce, Aaliyah is her mother's dream manifested. She nurtured and developed HER daughter's gift, passion and drive to become who they were BOTH destined to be and benefit from. God blessed them! Shalom!

    • @makebajahnke3510
      @makebajahnke3510 Год назад +1

      No she didn’t, her father was the driving force behind her success. Her mother supported her and kept her grounded.😮

    • @californiadreaming5638
      @californiadreaming5638 Год назад

      @@makebajahnke3510 Yes. This too!

  • @vaitevai9536
    @vaitevai9536 6 лет назад +5

    Who else is watching this in 2017 🙌😍

  • @kylat8707
    @kylat8707 8 лет назад +27

    solange reminds me of porsha from real housewives of atlanta

  • @monicat.curenton4142
    @monicat.curenton4142 10 лет назад +14

    Queen Tina ❤

  • @nolaa64
    @nolaa64 12 лет назад +4

    Thank You, that needed to be said!
    I'm so sick of people coming on other artist videos and saying crap like that!

  • @thatommekwa
    @thatommekwa Год назад +3

    It’s crazy how solange and beyonce both look like ms tina.

  • @Hitsuji_Suji
    @Hitsuji_Suji 10 лет назад +17

    Here's lookin at you Blue!

  • @lastella1994
    @lastella1994 8 лет назад +10

    Lovely interview I liked it.

  • @WH012Vids
    @WH012Vids 11 лет назад +17

    Was Beyonce really singing Whitney Houston's "Miracle" in that clip at 0:56?! :D

  • @payalkumar77
    @payalkumar77 2 года назад +3

    So emotionally when that man puts his fist up

  • @sabrinadoctor9653
    @sabrinadoctor9653 6 лет назад +2

    Mommy Tina is Phenomenal 💕💗💕💗

  • @aaliyonce
    @aaliyonce 12 лет назад +4

    Omg she's singing Miracle by Whitney Houston!

  • @AprilDineOfficial
    @AprilDineOfficial 2 года назад +4

    Beyoncé & Solange = Chlöe & Halle

  • @tycalvin8511
    @tycalvin8511 11 лет назад +20

    "to not sacrifice who they are for fame" hmmmmmmmmmm

  • @alexiscmouzan2642
    @alexiscmouzan2642 6 лет назад +2

    Dedication and honesty

  • @karlos_infamous
    @karlos_infamous 2 года назад +8

    so this explains why Beyonce is light skinned and has white/European features.

    • @Model_Roe
      @Model_Roe 2 года назад +12

      Lol Beyonce doesn't have European features her broad nose is indicative of African ancestry but she is light skinned because of her mom as you can see her dad is very dark skinned

    • @passionfruitpassionfruit2034
      @passionfruitpassionfruit2034 4 месяца назад +3

      They from Louisiana creole ancestry

    • @karlos_infamous
      @karlos_infamous 4 месяца назад +1

      @@passionfruitpassionfruit2034 yeah, Beyoncé is not black, she’s creole

    • @Tomekaspates
      @Tomekaspates 4 месяца назад +1

      @@oneidysilvestre2352like most African americas 😂

    • @Tomekaspates
      @Tomekaspates 4 месяца назад +1

      @@oneidysilvestre2352 yes!! A lot of us have white great grandma’s or grand fathers or someone deep down that was white in our blood line. My family does

  • @amastara11
    @amastara11 12 лет назад +2

    @HAYDENMUSICTV its not. its called a "quick weave" where its only her hair in the front, and the rest is a wig....... you can clearly see where it starts

  • @AshleyMadisonsRight
    @AshleyMadisonsRight 5 лет назад +6

    Rich parents using their child as an investment. No, not poor parents supporting their child's dream.

  • @_Ko98
    @_Ko98 12 лет назад +3

    her and her mother got everything the alike when i saw that pik love it heyyyy

  • @kimberleyallen3350
    @kimberleyallen3350 Год назад +1

    Ms tina knowles beyonce

  • @alexbro9955
    @alexbro9955 12 лет назад +13

    Thank. You.
    Celebrities Have Way Too Much Control Over The Public. They Are
    Entertainers.
    The End.

  • @ivabozovic1409
    @ivabozovic1409 7 лет назад +11

    Tina is amazing woman!

  • @Wowzer33
    @Wowzer33 11 лет назад +11

    How you know this video is dated, this is back when Bey only had 8 Grammys...homegurl got herself 17 now. #BowDown

  • @shawntok_
    @shawntok_ 11 лет назад +6

    and who knows? now beyonce has 17 grammys. :D

  • @veraferrer5491
    @veraferrer5491 4 месяца назад

    April 2024 ❤

  • @HAYDENMUSICTV
    @HAYDENMUSICTV 12 лет назад +5

    I think most of its her own hair...maybe she just clip on few pieces to make it a bit longer

  • @missthang5404
    @missthang5404 4 года назад +2

    Michelle was so pretty....

  • @shawntok_
    @shawntok_ 11 лет назад +2

    QUEEN B!

  • @markphillip8592
    @markphillip8592 Год назад

    Yes she did

  • @tiacody76
    @tiacody76 11 лет назад +1

    tia cody-Beyonce sounds just like her mom ^

  • @nancybreaux9684
    @nancybreaux9684 Год назад

    Tina made alot of sacrifices for her family.

  • @Gingers272
    @Gingers272 12 лет назад +5

    cause it's so important! beyonce IS a very talented artist, but it all stops there! she didn't save lives, she didn't cure sicknesses, she doesn't even donate to charity proportionally to her and J's wealth. Stop acting like her child is some sort of messiah, it's just a f*ing infant! just because she has 'a gift' (i.e. vocal talent she's exploring for her own wealth, basically) doesn't mean she's royalty or something!

  • @chingboc8
    @chingboc8 11 лет назад +3

    at 4:43 is that beyonce hugging beyonce? I'm confused?

    • @Reiprz
      @Reiprz 7 лет назад

      The Creative Kids.Shad,and Ziyah no her sis

  • @gipper086
    @gipper086 12 лет назад +25

    this woman has the scariest eyes i've ever seen SPOOKY

  • @tadd8210
    @tadd8210 6 лет назад +1

    Beyonce got her start as 1/3 of a group? Where did they get that info? Try 1/4.

  • @Reesemuffin
    @Reesemuffin 8 лет назад +5

    odd bey has a daughter now hmmm

  • @sbrooks729
    @sbrooks729 2 года назад +3

    Always loved Miss Lawson. Now, Mathew on the other hand is a hot mess....

  • @Sp3llw0rk
    @Sp3llw0rk Год назад

    Wow, seems to be a real friendly lady :)

  • @katalinschiller7602
    @katalinschiller7602 6 лет назад

    amasing!!!!!!!!!! Beyonce..!!!

  • @lastella1994
    @lastella1994 8 лет назад

    Nice interview

  • @kesalawheeler
    @kesalawheeler 4 года назад +1

    🔥 awesome Mom!

  • @kimberleyallen3350
    @kimberleyallen3350 Год назад

    Beyonce and solange

  • @colebe9427
    @colebe9427 8 лет назад

    *tears*

  • @Kabeyavictoria
    @Kabeyavictoria 4 года назад +3

    She sacrificed a lot

  • @MrAbdourachidjay
    @MrAbdourachidjay 12 лет назад +1

    It's Blue Ivy not Ivy Blue

  • @christinamilian91
    @christinamilian91 12 лет назад

    How come

  • @juanyowell
    @juanyowell 3 года назад

    Wow i didn't know this

  • @piscesgirl98
    @piscesgirl98 12 лет назад +1

    Lol damn...you telling the truth now that I look I notice!!

  • @charityholley2663
    @charityholley2663 6 лет назад +7

    Tina wicked and evil and bitter and got alot of hate in her!! But she cute tho.

    • @celestematthews3266
      @celestematthews3266 6 лет назад +2

      Charity Holley Right Farrah Franklin said so. To a dropped her hair and made her tan darker so Beyonce can be lighter

    • @tatianabrown5777
      @tatianabrown5777 6 лет назад +3

      So right Tina puts on this fake front fraud lord have mercy you can feel it. Look what she did to the old Destiny’s Child group.

    • @celestematthews3266
      @celestematthews3266 6 лет назад +2

      Tatiana Brown Right she looks evil

    • @AshleyMadisonsRight
      @AshleyMadisonsRight 5 лет назад

      Nah, she got some kind of goodness in her. She got teary taking about the handicap dude. Not too many people have that kind of sympathy.

    • @baddiezone
      @baddiezone 2 года назад

      @@tatianabrown5777 agreed and she’s gotten away with it for years

  • @conli6202
    @conli6202 5 лет назад

    We stan Grammy Sister! Lol

  • @passionfruitpassionfruit2034
    @passionfruitpassionfruit2034 4 месяца назад +1

    Ms Tina’s natural curls r beautiful she should go back to it too much plastic surgery though

  • @naqueendolineeigas7562
    @naqueendolineeigas7562 6 лет назад +7

    Tell your daughter to sing gospel her soul is lost.

    • @stars8924
      @stars8924 Год назад +1

      How are you speaking on someone else’s soul 🙄

  • @NN-jd5ul
    @NN-jd5ul 6 лет назад +6

    Kendrell Pettus
    Creoles are mixed people they are not black.

    • @cubanoluv
      @cubanoluv 2 года назад

      Can you repeat it again for the ppl in the back! Because I don’t think they heard you! 📢📢📢📢📢📢 RIP to my creole grandmother Mary magadaliene Leclere!

  • @mariahyohannes
    @mariahyohannes 3 года назад

    Beyonce covering Whitney Houston😩😩😩

  • @JazzeA
    @JazzeA Год назад

    😍😍😍

  • @Honestlylovely
    @Honestlylovely Год назад +1

    Never good enough

  • @lavish_queen7714
    @lavish_queen7714 2 года назад +2

    Her parents sold her

  • @lathanregintree
    @lathanregintree 12 лет назад

    yea but whit did it better of course,lol only mariah carey friend of beyonce can take a classic and make it her own in a "GOOD" way.

  • @mariasmith6183
    @mariasmith6183 2 года назад

    We know all these folks don't care about their success. Mama Tina know she got that suite at a thrift before. Smh lol

  • @shirleykluivert2715
    @shirleykluivert2715 Год назад

    Wow who is that at that age if thats ye child you would kno that sinds she's 2 or 3years old?

  • @bestofthebestvideos2720
    @bestofthebestvideos2720 6 лет назад

    0:48

  • @bessieward2011
    @bessieward2011 2 года назад

    Bunch of lies SashaXXX 😡

  • @gipper086
    @gipper086 12 лет назад +4

    I know she gives me the creeps.

    • @brownliquor2452
      @brownliquor2452 7 лет назад

      gipper086 She favors Katey Red, best friend of Big Freedia/Queen Diva.

    • @bambinojordanie2156
      @bambinojordanie2156 4 года назад

      @@brownliquor2452 whos big freedia ??

  • @sandraovar3885
    @sandraovar3885 2 года назад

    😘

  • @amastara11
    @amastara11 12 лет назад +2

    That weave.... smh lol isn't she a hair dresser?

  • @tifanyb3954
    @tifanyb3954 6 месяцев назад +1

    Evil parents who sold their daughter to the devil Jay z 🤮🤮 for fame.

    • @lana2658
      @lana2658 5 месяцев назад +2

      🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️😏seek help

  • @arslanmughal451
    @arslanmughal451 5 лет назад

    Macheele obama

  • @NN-jd5ul
    @NN-jd5ul 6 лет назад +4

    BLEACH OR NO BLEACH TINA AND HER DAUGHTERS ARE NOT BLACK.

    • @KiyokoHairston
      @KiyokoHairston 6 лет назад +1

      you prefer to say that they are a white mix rather than a black mix lol. tell Beyonce that.

    • @blackgirl2529
      @blackgirl2529 5 лет назад +2

      Go tell beyonce that she is not boack you will see her answer she has a whole darskin father and her mom is mixed that make her more black

  • @dddelorey
    @dddelorey 11 лет назад +2

    This women is gross .