9:20 "That's how I feel about anyone who still likes this band, like just fucking let go" So, following this logic, as music gets older it gets worse? That songs have an expiration date? So Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven are all absolute garbage? Not sure if that holds up..
@@CuThUlUiSbOsS Why should anyone let go of music they love to listen to? Jerry may have died a long time ago, but their material is vast and different. Something that amazes me is a band like Kiss is liked. Their music is as basic and boring as it gets, and they need costumes and pyrotechnics to keep the weak minded fan's attention.
@@matthewchovance4484what is “high”? Why did it sound better when “high”? That’s weird it’s like they somehow made music for that experience. Hmmm weird
I don't like hippies or jam bands in general. Most rank and file Deadheads get on my nerves but I still soberly and regularly listen Grateful Dead music. They do owe us an apology for blazing the trail for Phish and their stupid fans.
I once pissed off a good friend who was also a Dead fan when he put a Dead tape in his car stereo. I said to him “why does the Grateful Dead always play in the same key ?” Hurt, he replied “they DO NOT always play in the same key !” “Ok” I replied “how come everything they play sounds as if it’s played in the same key ?” Angry, he pulled the tape out of the player. We continued our journey in silence. 🤣
@@noelmajers6369 I was just kidding about kicking you out of the car , I'm not a total a$$hole but I definitely wouldn't have turned the music off . More of my whitty sense of humor
@@sunoclockoneday2576 I wish you had known my friend Rick. By all accounts a man of good humour and wit and, usually, more than capable of delivering a witty reposte or put down which was what I was actually fishing for. Words failed him that day, however. I've seen the Dead, btw, along with Bob Dylan and Tom Petty at Rich Stadium in '86. It was a good show but (how much good it was may have been down in no small part to the 'Salad' that was being passed around...). Best version of C. C. Rider ever....
That's the exact same thing I looked up 😆. It all makes sense. It was the band of the acid maker, and all the hippies memories of the band are on acid so they have this attachment to it because they had great psychedelic experiences while listening to it. It used to confuse me why ppl liked it cuz the music isn't psychedelic at all. It's just like folk and blues.
@@nathanligon6666 until you listen to them on LSD . It is so good together that it is almost scary . I would never tell anyone to take LSD but if you do you have to listen to the Dead or your missing out on the greatest experience of your life . Phish is a band that sucks. No matter what or how many drugs you take nothing will change that fact
Me too! I live in Nor cal where they are worshipped. I refer to it as “the deedely dees”. Noodle guitar noises basically… freakin snore fest and mooch fest
George Carlin on hippies: "they took all: sex, drugs, and rock and roll. They stayed loaded for 30 years and had a free ride. Now they're staring down the barrel of middle age burn out. And they don't like it. So they turn self-righteous. They try to make things harder on younger people. They tell them abstain from sex. Say no to drugs. As for the rock and roll, they sold that for television commercials a long time ago. So they could buy pasta machines and stair masters, and soybean futures."
Had a conversation today at a coffee shop with a friend when the Dead came on. We were discussing whether or not the Dead were great or totally sucked. Get home and RUclips suggests this. Tell me our phones aren't listening to us. Guess I need some raw water now.
Totally agree with the cult following crap, especially trust funders tuning in, turning on and cashing in. Blonde dreadlocks are annoying. However, Workingmans Dead is a fantastic interpretation of blues, folk rock as an album. I love this podcast, makes me think of certain bands in certain ways, especially where the 'music' become lost to ego
@@lesliepropheter5040 are there really people who don't want free drugs? Sure it'd be a bit of a bummer to get hit all of a sudden by "sneaky acid" while driving, or swimming with sharks, but 8 hours of a possible hellish experience for saving between 10-20 bucks is totally worth it! (I'm assuming that's what acid costs, haven't bought it since like 94)
7:30 I quoted your rant about condescending stoners but replaced drugs with music. "There's nothing worse than a condescending music critic. I don't understand why people who like certain music think liking that certain music makes them better than anyone else. Or smarter." Other dude chimes in, "Elitist music critics" I know that technically you're not music critics, just two angry music snobs, but it sounds like you're talking about yourselves.
“I was a huge Deadhead, huge beyond belief. I saw the Dead 26 times from 1968 to 1972. I saw them on LSD 25 of those 26 times. On the 26th time, I didn’t do acid, and I thought they sucked. I never saw them again. And from that day forward, I never listened to a Grateful Dead record ever - ever - again." Jay Jay French
These guys were frustrating me at the beginning of the video but I listened more and I started to laugh. At the end of the day they’re using RUclips as it’s supposed to be used. I love the Grateful Dead by the way!
I was raised in CO by two dead heads. Normal people just really liked the Greatful dead and along with living in Colorado my parents were experienced in drug taking aswell. I was raised around dead heads and from my experience every thing you said was wrong. However I can appreciate you guys opinions and I was entertained non the less.
You know what you hear people say at a Grateful Dead concert when you run out of drugs? “Man, this music sucks!“ Of course, you have to be high as a kite to even begin to remotely like that shit. I tried to get into the Grateful Dead and never understood what all the hype and hoopla was about them.
@@phayzyre1052 Lol. I just told you - I’m stone cold sober and I love the Grateful Dead. In fact, I despise hippie culture. Always have. When I was using drugs and drinking, I never listened to the Dead and thought what you thought - I never understood what the excitement was all about.
@@BrandonToy I think the first time I ever heard the Grateful Dead was way back in the early 1980s and even had a guy tell me “it’s better when you listen to that music stoned.” Well, I’ve tried listen to GD six ways from Sunday drunk, stoned, and sober, and it just didn’t do it for me. Like you I to despise the hippie culture! It had its time in the 60s but the expiration date on the hippie culture expired a long time ago. Apart from that, they stink! We had a couple of hippies come into a guitar shop I once worked at looking to buy guitar strings and their armpit odor was so strong a buddy of mine blew an entire can of Lysol after they left trying to get rid of it! 🤢🤮
First listened to this podcast today with this episode, honestly thought it was a satire podcast and at the end would be some revelation as to why the band is great but turns out it’s just full of hate. I get it, it’s fun to shit on things and you guys are creative and funny with it, but music is so subjective it comes off as monkeys throwing shit at other monkeys in the hopes of reaching enlightenment. You guys are good at podcast formats though and entertaining. I’d definitely check the country podcast out!
In this corner, we have two nameless clowns who think the Dead are nothing but an excuse to do drugs. In the other corner, we have just some of the artists who've sat in with the Dead: Dylan, Janis, Branford, Santana, Etta James, Ornette Coleman, Steve Winwood, PeteTownsend, Olatunji, The Allmans, Stephen Stills, Peter Green, Bo Diddley, John Cippolina, and David Crosby.
I listened to the rant with a open ear. By the end the only thing I questioned was my sanity for listening to this whole pod cast. Obviously you guys are looking for easy targets and just want to hate for the sake of hateful entertainment. Just for thoughs who are like these guy and know nothing about the Grateful Dead. These guys have spent there whole lives, out side looking in and have no real clue. I could say alot of great things about the Grateful Dead that would trip your lid though only the ones who are willing to step inside are the deserving to the knowledge and thats not on this form. Good luck dudes, god knows will need it and I will see the rest of you on the other side. Haters will hate, lovers will love. Keep on Truckin'!
Out of curiosity what are some of the great things you have to say about the band? Genuinely asking here not being a troll.. I am willing to step inside as you say
For one in a broader since they bring a wide range of people from different classes, and cultures together. 2, Their experimentation in the studio and on stage is very well know to of takin' music to another level. 3. They are one of the most longest touring bands with one of the largest fan bases to this day. 4. Their sound is unique, iconic and very original in a genre of its own. 5 The music is generally up lifting and gets people out of their comfort zone to start to move, dance and smile with each other. 6. They are real musicians who are dedicated to their music and there fans. All that I stated is not my opinion. My opinion is that they are aground breaking band and their sound takes me to a place of pure joy and ecstasy. Thank you
Most dead fans I’ve encountered think you are (a friend of) the devil for not liking them and will not accept the fact that someone dislikes their band.
It is fucking hilarious that youre the son of David Allan Coe and youre talking about BAD SHOWS. your pops wrote probably one of THE GREATEST country albums of all time, Rides Again, but he is literally hit or miss with every show hes ever played.
Have you guys seen David Allan Coe the last 20 years??? Now that sucks ass. What a fucking rip-off. Amazing song writer who really went down the shitter with stupid ridiculous wigs, trying to be a heavy metal star and letting his yoko ono wife act like a complete goof on stage taking away all the credibility he earned as the original real deal of the Outlaw Country music scene. When I first purchased my $30 ticket to see him back in 2002 I was so pumped, by the 3rd song I was ready to slit my throat, the worst pile of shit I have ever witnessed. You couldn't pay $3,000 to watch this nightmare shit show let alone $30. They need to do a pod cast of how much of a rip off scam artist hack that my original Outlaw hero DAC became.
American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are their two best albums. If you don't like those, then you are closing your minds to great music. There are so many live shows where they are just plain extraordinary and very creative. You will never hear the same show night after night like most bands, and you will never hear the same version of a song. You can go to five straight shows, and they will be very different from each other. Creativity is their calling card, and for you to say they lack creativity just shows you don't know what you are talking about.
I am a huge dead fan, but I can definitely understand why a lot people don’t like them. Jerry Garcia said that the albums sucked because they’re a live band. Saying that they’re all bad musicians in blatantly wrong. They all mastered their instruments and they cared about each other, and their fans. I personally don’t like all their music, after American Beauty I lose interest besides a couple of songs. These guys are close minded, and they have zero experience or knowledge on psychedelics. If they were tripping they would almost certainly enjoy the dead. I have listened to the gorillaz while tripping and thought it was amazing, but I can’t listen to them sober because I don’t like them. These dudes are so pretentious.
Not a single one of the original dead members "mastered their instruments", and the only one I might allow a semblance of an argument on is Jerry. Bobby is clueless 50% of the time on his instrument and if you listen to isolated tracks of him on RUclips you'll realize that. People give him that bullshit, "his style is so unique" argument, but that just sounds convenient for what is really sloppy playing - I mean Jerry fired the guy once in the late 60s and I think if it wasn't for him and the others taking pity, it would have stayed that way. Billy is by no means some great drummer and he's admitted himself that he never cared much for keeping time and never practiced with a metronome, BUT THAT IS LITERALLY THE DRUMMER'S PRIORITY PLAYING WITH A GROUP (you really see the negative results of this at times with Dead and Co. where it feels like John, Oteil, and Jeff are sonically trying to pull the 3 others up a hill the entire show from constant dragging). Listen to Billy with Dead and Company, it's just lazy playing half the time. I haven't even got to Mickey yet, who seems to not understand that he's already got a drummer to accompany. Listen to Dead and Company and try to make the argument that Mickey and Billy do not step all over each other's musical toes half the time. You can point out that a lot of my criticisms come from post-Jerry dead reincarnations, but I think that is entirely fair. They shouldn't need Jerry around to sound halfway decent without having to bring in some of the best live performers time after time with Trey, Warren, John, etc... No one who has "mastered their instruments" in their lifetime declines to the point the current original Dead members are at. Down inside everyone knows if you took John, Oteil, and Jeff away from the 3 remaining (not including Phill obviously), 50% of the show would sound like a complete and total train-wreck. None of these are characteristics of anyone who has "mastered" their instruments in their lifetime. Jerry and Robert Hunter carried the most massive of loads in that group
I actually like some of the robert hunter/garcia songs and specific grateful dead shows, although jerry garcia band is basically the same sound only tighter. Completely agree on deadheads/hippies and stoners though. As an ex avid wake and baker, that shit will stunt your emotional growth and remove any motivation.
You have obviously never really listened to Grateful Dead. I can understand that you can't get past the deadheads, but to say that the band's music sucks just shows you have no idea. Jerry said they didn't make good albums because the band was all about the live experience.
I'm sure Branfrod Marsalis, Ornette Coleman, David Grisman, Bob Dylan, Carlos Santana,and all the other poor musicians that played with them thought they sucked too,right?
Ever seen the movie Smoke Signals, about those guys on the coeur dalene Indian reservation? Well one character mentions in passing that Hippies were just white people trying to be Indians lol
Wow, I bought some GD albums, listened, enjoyed. I went to a show, thought it was really different. Enjoyed another 120 GD shows after that one. Still listen all these years later and hear great versions of songs I’ve never heard b4. I got off on the bands playing and Jerry’s virtuosity while they were touring. Still get off even more so on the thousands of live recordings. But I’m going to stop listening and realize that I was crazy to ever enjoy this music because Marc and Tyler think that The Grateful Dead suck. Can you two maybe compare and contrast Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. If you do, I promise that I will take my first hit of LSD
As someone who always laughed at Deadheads, I admittedly never listened to them. I went and tried to listen to American Beauty/Box of Rain at your mention and just laughed. But maybe that's not the "best" Grateful Dead song, right? So I went and looked up what people think is the best Grateful Dead song and "Dark Star" was mentioned at #1 on some semi-credible list. Holy crap...is this a joke? Like, we are bordering on Shaggs level "hahaha it's so bad it's funny" bad. Another site said "Casey Jones" is their best song. Holy god. This is a band with countless songs, right? Like, their "best" stuff sounds like Red Krayola at their absolute worst, like their filler album stuff on "God Bless the Red Krayola." It's even worse than I expected. Like Jesus H Christ deadheads...even as psychedelia there is nothing here. This is just stoned people playing freaking awful music badly.
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast it helps if you understand how to escape being trapped in one of your 7 brains, namely the Left PFC, the focus part So when the Slavers created a culture where you are taught to Focus on focusing and are then punished if you use your right PFC the un focusing part of the PFC Now the Roman Slave Schools , do a brilliant job of trapping you in your left PFC ignoring the other 6 brains and pretending they dont exist But that does a incredible job of limiting and narrowing your living experience But hey Delude yourself into focusing on focusing and focus that focus on focused music for focus sake :)
Ik me and my buddy always talk about how the dead is the only band that is able to get to your soul in a way no other band is able to do, and that we feel so honored to be part of the ones that are able to feel it. I'm talking without any drugs at all.
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast the secret to not dieing on weed is to take a couple tabs of fluff and turn Terrapin Station up so loud it shakes your guts . Guaranteed to live
Time to let the cat out of the bag. This was all Just a big troll you guys. They are actually some of the most knowledgeable and dedicated Grateful Dead fans out there. I know them both very well and their bedrooms are covered top to bottom in Dead material. Take this for what it was, a great comedy bit call “Your favorite band sucks”. Get it? They even did one on the Beatles but never released it. It was fucking epic! 😂
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast Look I listened to enough to hear what kind of person you are, and I really just feel sorry for you both that you'll never understand something so much more complex and interesting than your terrible music reviews. Not that either of our opinions matter, appreciation of art is subjective..
Please read the boo' WEIRD SCENES INSIDE THE CANYON ' by David McGowan , it is an interesting take on the whole sixties flower power phenomenon and all the bands that jump started it...PEACE MAN !
You know, this actually help me get off my soft mentality. I can now appreciate greatful dead songs for what they are. Personally, I find them catchy and very emotional just like most blues are. I do agree that some dead heads can be very close minded individuals but I’ve also met some very kind and open minded ones. I don’t like the fact that you shat on them, personally because I would never do that. I wouldnt shit on metálica or Pink Floyd or Clapton just becuase I don’t get their music or I think their music is not my type. Because they all have their different meaning so it doesn’t make sense to judge. But it’s a free country so whatever.
You may as well have called them The Walking Dead. The Greatful Ded are that one band people like Olivia Rodrigo (can you do an episode on her yet?) like to rave about to make them sound like they’re “not like other girls”, and they have “different taste”. Meanwhile mocking ppl who are ACTUALLY not like other girls (me). It’s this weird taste over taste thing that runs amok circa 2020 onwards and I am not cool with it.
What's so great about using rock instruments to play elevator music? When it comes to religion in music, deadheads are the worst offenders. Anything can sound good if you're sufficiently wasted. I've never tried acid because if it makes the Grateful Dead sound good, what's the point?
Wildest part of this. Guy comments heavily on the effects of lsd mushrooms while also stating he’s never done them…. That’s like giving a review of a film you’ve never seen but being incredibly confident in your stance. Then he goes into a rant about the iconography of the band and it’s fans for 20-25 min of a 36 min talk. Not a single discussion about the music at all. If I have to explain you wouldn’t understand. These guys are clowns on the side lines commenting with no life experience. Tbh, feel very sorry for the level of ignorant judgements on display here. Embarrassing to post.
the fact you think you have to partake and indulge in lsd to understand that if you consistently take them your brain will get fried shows you might have done a little too much lsd in your past buddy
Now that I’m dead I love the dead. When I haven’t died yet I didn’t like them. Weird right? Guess dead people love the dead. I totally get why these dudes don’t like the dead, I didn’t get it or like either until everything that I knew was torn to shreds by the force of pure love. Until that happens to you this band won’t make any sense and in fact will rub you the wrong way. (Because it’s trying to destroy you) Have a good one!
I went to a big Grateful Dead cover band performance lastnight and couldn’t get into it even though I was trying to be open minded. The whole thing seemed like a walking hippy cliche with no substance.
I don’t blame you. I grew up going on dead tour, and even I don’t enjoy many of the cover bands. It’s the crazy instrumental parts of the Grateful Dead that I really like, and most cover bands aren’t talented enough to do that aspect well.
Wait a minute, I thought I was listening to a podcast about the ambivalence of the dead music and lack of contribution to society, not a mad libs Reefer Madness/Music Edition. Sounds like your real "beef" is your delicate tolerance and how you can't handle your substances. I was really hoping you'd focus more on the Peter pan syndrome or dead heads. But you keep inserting hippie with dead head, and they aren't the same thing. Dead heads will even tell you that, because they're exclusionary. And I hate to break it to you boys but the food you eat and the drinks you drink ARE drugs. Just because you dont have tolerance doesn't mean others are as weak as you. In fact MDMA and psychoactive s are used for depression and anxiety. Coincidently the hate on hippies is ignorant. You seem to be children in slightly matured bodies, especially with the inability to actual intelligent commentary and not just your own opinions due to lack of understanding. Quit generalizing please. And maybe ask questions, dont assume. As far as I see, you're actually acting like the exclusionary deadhead assholes, that are part of thenrpobelme with the culture... but because you're claiming anti, you believe youre above it. That's crap. Much like on the way, I'm not a FAN of the dead, but you could say I'm one of the BIGGEST fans because I once travelled 8 hours in a blizzard to go to a Schwagg Show. That's a dedication the "heads can recognize. Get over your separatist nonsense.
I listened to the dead bc of my neighbor who was a deadhead, fucking hated it, came back to listen to them a little after I turned 21 after having a conversation with him about how much I disliked their music, and he told me to listen to st stephen off the live/dead show and I actually found it enjoyable. I was completely sober. I feel like a lot of the shows aren’t amazing but a few are pretty good.
my dad and uncle were heads and always showed me the music when i was a kid and i hated it every time, when i turned 20 i tried it again and havent looked back
Wheres a good place to start with them? Just looking for some new music i mostly actually like when other bands cover them but never found them enjoyable personally yet
I got a picture of Jerry in my room 😂interesting conversation I tend to disagree with the broad sweeping generalizations of hippies. A lot of dead heads I met are lawyers and doctors I even met a dead head cop. STORY TIME: my first phish show these super trashed guys on the way back from the show “this is why we come to phish TO DO DRUGS!” They thought everyone on the shuttle would cheer loooool we all just laughed at them. no bro we are here for the music. These are the type of people who somehow give us a bad name even though they are the minority of respectable concert goers. After we got back these dudes popped the emergency back door and ruined the drivers night we all apologized for them :/
I'm 50 and I went through my hippie phase back in the 90s and everything that you're saying is so true, lol! Most of my friends were dirty aimless hippies and I can't stand them now. God their music sucks and there's nothing I hate more than the noodle dancing, lol!
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"That's how I feel about anyone who still likes this band, like just fucking let go"
So, following this logic, as music gets older it gets worse? That songs have an expiration date? So Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven are all absolute garbage?
Not sure if that holds up..
You have like 5k views. You guys are literal idiots.
@@CuThUlUiSbOsS but you don’t have to be a crazy Bach, Beethoven or Mozart fan on drugs to appreciate them.
@@CuThUlUiSbOsS Why should anyone let go of music they love to listen to? Jerry may have died a long time ago, but their material is vast and different. Something that amazes me is a band like Kiss is liked. Their music is as basic and boring as it gets, and they need costumes and pyrotechnics to keep the weak minded fan's attention.
I inject 5 marijuana every morning and watch Micky mouse play house.
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Lol
Gotta up those numbers
I'm a deadhead and this is hilarious honestly, its just funny to laugh at yourself sometimes 😂, great job guys!!!
I’m a fan myself and these guys make some good points. I’ve always said that I totally understand why people fucking hate the dead. 😂
I wore the dead shirts when I was nine because I liked the teddy bears
I hate the Dead and this is terrible.
i love the dead and yes they suck i was just high lol
@@matthewchovance4484what is “high”? Why did it sound better when “high”? That’s weird it’s like they somehow made music for that experience. Hmmm weird
I don't like hippies or jam bands in general. Most rank and file Deadheads get on my nerves but I still soberly and regularly listen Grateful Dead music. They do owe us an apology for blazing the trail for Phish and their stupid fans.
Phish phans are just generally younger but yeah us dead heads are supposed to hate phish lol. (I went phishing this summer and quite enjoyed it)
“Elitist stoners” 🤣 so true
I once pissed off a good friend who was also a Dead fan when he put a Dead tape in his car stereo. I said to him “why does the Grateful Dead always play in the same key ?” Hurt, he replied “they DO NOT always play in the same key !” “Ok” I replied “how come everything they play sounds as if it’s played in the same key ?” Angry, he pulled the tape out of the player. We continued our journey in silence. 🤣
I would have just kicked you out of the car . Problem solved
@@sunoclockoneday2576 Never let it be said that Dead fans lack a sense of humour. Much.
@@noelmajers6369 I was just kidding about kicking you out of the car , I'm not a total a$$hole but I definitely wouldn't have turned the music off .
More of my whitty sense of humor
@@sunoclockoneday2576 I wish you had known my friend Rick. By all accounts a man of good humour and wit and, usually, more than capable of delivering a witty reposte or put down which was what I was actually fishing for. Words failed him that day, however. I've seen the Dead, btw, along with Bob Dylan and Tom Petty at Rich Stadium in '86. It was a good show but (how much good it was may have been down in no small part to the 'Salad' that was being passed around...). Best version of C. C. Rider ever....
You would have to be stupid musically if you think they play in the same key haha wow tell me you're not a musician without telling me
I specifically looked up "the grateful dead sucks" and this was the 1st vid, cause I knew I couldnt have been the only one that thinks it
That's the exact same thing I looked up 😆. It all makes sense. It was the band of the acid maker, and all the hippies memories of the band are on acid so they have this attachment to it because they had great psychedelic experiences while listening to it. It used to confuse me why ppl liked it cuz the music isn't psychedelic at all. It's just like folk and blues.
@@nathanligon6666 until you listen to them on LSD . It is so good together that it is almost scary . I would never tell anyone to take LSD but if you do you have to listen to the Dead or your missing out on the greatest experience of your life .
Phish is a band that sucks. No matter what or how many drugs you take nothing will change that fact
Me too! I live in Nor cal where they are worshipped. I refer to it as “the deedely dees”. Noodle guitar noises basically… freakin snore fest and mooch fest
@Ichigo Hanamura Pink Floyd inconsistent record? I mean their early stuff with Sidd was out there for sure haha
Did this with Metallica
These fools live in a state where weed is not legal it’s not their fault
I realized it was a troll when he said "the songwriting is bad, the performances are bad, they're bad at playing their instruments"
George Carlin on hippies: "they took all: sex, drugs, and rock and roll. They stayed loaded for 30 years and had a free ride. Now they're staring down the barrel of middle age burn out. And they don't like it. So they turn self-righteous. They try to make things harder on younger people. They tell them abstain from sex. Say no to drugs. As for the rock and roll, they sold that for television commercials a long time ago. So they could buy pasta machines and stair masters, and soybean futures."
Stoners need to be called out more, it’s refreshing
Had a conversation today at a coffee shop with a friend when the Dead came on. We were discussing whether or not the Dead were great or totally sucked. Get home and RUclips suggests this. Tell me our phones aren't listening to us. Guess I need some raw water now.
Totally agree with the cult following crap, especially trust funders tuning in, turning on and cashing in. Blonde dreadlocks are annoying. However, Workingmans Dead is a fantastic interpretation of blues, folk rock as an album. I love this podcast, makes me think of certain bands in certain ways, especially where the 'music' become lost to ego
It’s my one and only Grateful Dead LP.
It'd be a shame if some merry prankster happened to dose you guys
That would be a crime, yes.
Dosing an unwitting person is a shitty thing to do. But then again, Deadheads are shitty people.
A waste of good Acid? Are there any Pranksters left?
@@lesliepropheter5040 Lol. Exactly. Where are these suckers, I mean, pranksters?
@@lesliepropheter5040 are there really people who don't want free drugs? Sure it'd be a bit of a bummer to get hit all of a sudden by "sneaky acid" while driving, or swimming with sharks, but 8 hours of a possible hellish experience for saving between 10-20 bucks is totally worth it! (I'm assuming that's what acid costs, haven't bought it since like 94)
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I quoted your rant about condescending stoners but replaced drugs with music.
"There's nothing worse than a condescending music critic. I don't understand why people who like certain music think liking that certain music makes them better than anyone else. Or smarter."
Other dude chimes in, "Elitist music critics"
I know that technically you're not music critics, just two angry music snobs, but it sounds like you're talking about yourselves.
Another defensive reply, it's amazing.
That must have been a lot of work for you, considering all the pot you smoke. Good job!
“I was a huge Deadhead, huge beyond belief. I saw the Dead 26 times from 1968 to 1972. I saw them on LSD 25 of those 26 times. On the 26th time, I didn’t do acid, and I thought they sucked. I never saw them again. And from that day forward, I never listened to a Grateful Dead record ever - ever - again." Jay Jay French
Jim Jim English
I think a quote like this from twisted sisters more so validates the Dead
I had no idea who that was, but I still would've enjoyed the quote if it came from Sam the butcher.
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Who?
What’s your favorite band ? AC/DC?
they did a video on why they suck too. why are you crashing out over a shitty band LMAO
These guys were frustrating me at the beginning of the video but I listened more and I started to laugh. At the end of the day they’re using RUclips as it’s supposed to be used. I love the Grateful Dead by the way!
"No drugs , no Dead " - Music-city Mark 7:15
Funniest shit of all time.
Not liking things doesn’t make you edgy. The pretentiousness of this podcast is pretty wild.
Right?
I think they’re like this because they’re sick of people being fans of music that is objectively bad, and they make really good points
Love the grateful dead, but this anti hippie shit is funny, hilarious even
also do Billy Strings lol. Would love to hear more modern currently controversial takes
Listen to the other one from the Europe 72 vol 2, or the pacific north west album
I was raised in CO by two dead heads. Normal people just really liked the Greatful dead and along with living in Colorado my parents were experienced in drug taking aswell. I was raised around dead heads and from my experience every thing you said was wrong. However I can appreciate you guys opinions and I was entertained non the less.
You know what you hear people say at a Grateful Dead concert when you run out of drugs? “Man, this music sucks!“
Of course, you have to be high as a kite to even begin to remotely like that shit. I tried to get into the Grateful Dead and never understood what all the hype and hoopla was about them.
I do zero drugs and love the Dead. Your theory sucks.
@@BrandonToy You mean my fact sucks!
@@phayzyre1052 Lol. I just told you - I’m stone cold sober and I love the Grateful Dead. In fact, I despise hippie culture. Always have. When I was using drugs and drinking, I never listened to the Dead and thought what you thought - I never understood what the excitement was all about.
@@BrandonToy I think the first time I ever heard the Grateful Dead was way back in the early 1980s and even had a guy tell me “it’s better when you listen to that music stoned.” Well, I’ve tried listen to GD six ways from Sunday drunk, stoned, and sober, and it just didn’t do it for me.
Like you I to despise the hippie culture! It had its time in the 60s but the expiration date on the hippie culture expired a long time ago. Apart from that, they stink! We had a couple of hippies come into a guitar shop I once worked at looking to buy guitar strings and their armpit odor was so strong a buddy of mine blew an entire can of Lysol after they left trying to get rid of it! 🤢🤮
First listened to this podcast today with this episode, honestly thought it was a satire podcast and at the end would be some revelation as to why the band is great but turns out it’s just full of hate. I get it, it’s fun to shit on things and you guys are creative and funny with it, but music is so subjective it comes off as monkeys throwing shit at other monkeys in the hopes of reaching enlightenment. You guys are good at podcast formats though and entertaining. I’d definitely check the country podcast out!
Well put, Evan B.
How you vacillate between "feces flinging simians" and "creative and funny" is quite the impressive feat of contortion.
Talking grasshoppers are just kool as phuck
In this corner, we have two nameless clowns who think the Dead are nothing but an excuse to do drugs.
In the other corner, we have just some of the artists who've sat in with the Dead: Dylan, Janis, Branford, Santana, Etta James, Ornette Coleman, Steve Winwood, PeteTownsend, Olatunji, The Allmans, Stephen Stills, Peter Green, Bo Diddley, John Cippolina, and David Crosby.
in this corner you have zero likes on your comment. in the other corner you have 1 dislike.
@@henryallard4039 Oh, crap. What does this mean in terms of being right?
@@howardadelman4327 it means you arent..
@@howardadelman4327 listening to the dead is like listening to my fucking alarm clock.
I listened to the rant with a open ear. By the end the only thing I questioned was my sanity for listening to this whole pod cast. Obviously you guys are looking for easy targets and just want to hate for the sake of hateful entertainment.
Just for thoughs who are like these guy and know nothing about the Grateful Dead. These guys have spent there whole lives, out side looking in and have no real clue.
I could say alot of great things about the Grateful Dead that would trip your lid though only the ones who are willing to step inside are the deserving to the knowledge and thats not on this form. Good luck dudes, god knows will need it and I will see the rest of you on the other side.
Haters will hate, lovers will love. Keep on Truckin'!
@PixieWrangler And ironically that comment delivered exactly what they were talking about.
Out of curiosity what are some of the great things you have to say about the band?
Genuinely asking here not being a troll.. I am willing to step inside as you say
"The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding"
For one in a broader since they bring a wide range of people from different classes, and cultures together.
2, Their experimentation in the studio and on stage is very well know to of takin' music to another level.
3. They are one of the most longest touring bands with one of the largest fan bases to this day.
4. Their sound is unique, iconic and very original in a genre of its own.
5 The music is generally up lifting and gets people out of their comfort zone to start to move, dance and smile with each other.
6. They are real musicians who are dedicated to their music and there fans.
All that I stated is not my opinion.
My opinion is that they are aground breaking band and their sound takes me to a place of pure joy and ecstasy.
Thank you
Spot on Aloysius! If you had a channel, I'd subscribe simply for this particular comment.
These guys are the fuckin worst but I cant stop listening. The nine inch nails one fucked me up. Props boys ❤❤❤
The first five minutes basically describe what’s wrong with modern Iron Maiden
These guys must be fun at party’s.
R S 😂
Thanks for the input, Reddit.
What’s the point of this? I don’t get it
It is about purging social memes that are still alive but should be dead. (no pun intented)
John Casey but it’s so obviously dumb
@@longlivejerryg We are in disagreement on it. No worries, Garcia later.
John Casey well good luck with that - a bit odd to like immature shit like this
@@longlivejerryg Not if your Gen-X. Now tell me, who needs to expand their mind ?
Most dead fans I’ve encountered think you are (a friend of) the devil for not liking them and will not accept the fact that someone dislikes their band.
It is a cult like mentality.
Uh the opposite
Nah dude, just like Jerry said; the dead are like licorice, it’s not for everyone
@@jacobshoaf5437 some people really like licorice
It is fucking hilarious that youre the son of David Allan Coe and youre talking about BAD SHOWS. your pops wrote probably one of THE GREATEST country albums of all time, Rides Again, but he is literally hit or miss with every show hes ever played.
Have you guys seen David Allan Coe the last 20 years??? Now that sucks ass. What a fucking rip-off. Amazing song writer who really went down the shitter with stupid ridiculous wigs, trying to be a heavy metal star and letting his yoko ono wife act like a complete goof on stage taking away all the credibility he earned as the original real deal of the Outlaw Country music scene. When I first purchased my $30 ticket to see him back in 2002 I was so pumped, by the 3rd song I was ready to slit my throat, the worst pile of shit I have ever witnessed. You couldn't pay $3,000 to watch this nightmare shit show let alone $30. They need to do a pod cast of how much of a rip off scam artist hack that my original Outlaw hero DAC became.
I'm 18 and I have listened to them for almost 4 years. Best music ever made. Never taken acid either. Listen to it sober mostly.
Plz expand your horizons and dump this shit 🥺
Jerry Can why can’t someone enjoy what they enjoy
I’m the same way, my parents think I trip because they can’t understand why I listen to them so much
@@jerrycan4775 Honest question: Do you bro hug to Creed?
Then you haven’t heard good music
I moved to San Francisco to be a hippie and smoke great weed.
That sucks
Do an episode on velvet underground. If you think Dead songs are long repetitive shit, then please defend sister ray.
That was one velvet song they don't all sound like that I'm a Nico fan personally
I disagree. Every able-bodied adult should be ready 100% of the time to rescue drowning children. I hope that's not too much to ask these days.
Where can I find your country podcast?
@@SlyHikari03 thanks
this podcast is horrible guys
you're welcome
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast i decline
I couldn’t get past the part where he said that because they didn’t like their studio albums it meant they were lazy
I thought it was brilliant !
American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are their two best albums. If you don't like those, then you are closing your minds to great music. There are so many live shows where they are just plain extraordinary and very creative. You will never hear the same show night after night like most bands, and you will never hear the same version of a song. You can go to five straight shows, and they will be very different from each other. Creativity is their calling card, and for you to say they lack creativity just shows you don't know what you are talking about.
Q: What did the Deadhead say when his acid wore off?
A: Wow, this music really DOES suck.
That's phish you told it wrong
Terrapin Street is a great album.
I am a huge dead fan, but I can definitely understand why a lot people don’t like them. Jerry Garcia said that the albums sucked because they’re a live band. Saying that they’re all bad musicians in blatantly wrong. They all mastered their instruments and they cared about each other, and their fans. I personally don’t like all their music, after American Beauty I lose interest besides a couple of songs. These guys are close minded, and they have zero experience or knowledge on psychedelics. If they were tripping they would almost certainly enjoy the dead. I have listened to the gorillaz while tripping and thought it was amazing, but I can’t listen to them sober because I don’t like them. These dudes are so pretentious.
That is the common..."you don't understand, 'cause you've never heard them while high", answer. No harsh intended.
Not a single one of the original dead members "mastered their instruments", and the only one I might allow a semblance of an argument on is Jerry. Bobby is clueless 50% of the time on his instrument and if you listen to isolated tracks of him on RUclips you'll realize that. People give him that bullshit, "his style is so unique" argument, but that just sounds convenient for what is really sloppy playing - I mean Jerry fired the guy once in the late 60s and I think if it wasn't for him and the others taking pity, it would have stayed that way.
Billy is by no means some great drummer and he's admitted himself that he never cared much for keeping time and never practiced with a metronome, BUT THAT IS LITERALLY THE DRUMMER'S PRIORITY PLAYING WITH A GROUP (you really see the negative results of this at times with Dead and Co. where it feels like John, Oteil, and Jeff are sonically trying to pull the 3 others up a hill the entire show from constant dragging).
Listen to Billy with Dead and Company, it's just lazy playing half the time. I haven't even got to Mickey yet, who seems to not understand that he's already got a drummer to accompany. Listen to Dead and Company and try to make the argument that Mickey and Billy do not step all over each other's musical toes half the time.
You can point out that a lot of my criticisms come from post-Jerry dead reincarnations, but I think that is entirely fair. They shouldn't need Jerry around to sound halfway decent without having to bring in some of the best live performers time after time with Trey, Warren, John, etc... No one who has "mastered their instruments" in their lifetime declines to the point the current original Dead members are at. Down inside everyone knows if you took John, Oteil, and Jeff away from the 3 remaining (not including Phill obviously), 50% of the show would sound like a complete and total train-wreck. None of these are characteristics of anyone who has "mastered" their instruments in their lifetime. Jerry and Robert Hunter carried the most massive of loads in that group
@@alexbarbosa4666 So Jerry fired him once (in '68), and now they've declined (at 75-80 years old).
That's some prescient analysis, bruh.
I actually like some of the robert hunter/garcia songs and specific grateful dead shows, although jerry garcia band is basically the same sound only tighter. Completely agree on deadheads/hippies and stoners though. As an ex avid wake and baker, that shit will stunt your emotional growth and remove any motivation.
People remember this band solely because of Homer Simpson
My uncle is a huge deadhead. I’m gonna send him this video haha
The 'coexist' creeper band of hate. Unnatural.
You have obviously never really listened to Grateful Dead. I can understand that you can't get past the deadheads, but to say that the band's music sucks just shows you have no idea. Jerry said they didn't make good albums because the band was all about the live experience.
This is top tier bait lmao, I really can not tell what is true and what is not
I didn't know I needed this, thanks guys. Insta-subscribed
I'm sure Branfrod Marsalis, Ornette Coleman, David Grisman, Bob Dylan, Carlos Santana,and all the other poor musicians that played with them thought they sucked too,right?
Probably
Eh, i always laugh when someone hates on music this much.
Ever seen the movie Smoke Signals, about those guys on the coeur dalene Indian reservation? Well one character mentions in passing that Hippies were just white people trying to be Indians lol
I think someone’s hippie uncle touched them.. A lot of inner hate
walk me out..
Thank you
Lol. The Grateful Dead are my favorite band but my wife hates them.
Wow, I bought some GD albums, listened, enjoyed. I went to a show, thought it was really different. Enjoyed another 120 GD shows after that one. Still listen all these years later and hear great versions of songs I’ve never heard b4. I got off on the bands playing and Jerry’s virtuosity while they were touring. Still get off even more so on the thousands of live recordings. But I’m going to stop listening and realize that I was crazy to ever enjoy this music because Marc and Tyler think that The Grateful Dead suck. Can you two maybe compare and contrast Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. If you do, I promise that I will take my first hit of LSD
As someone who always laughed at Deadheads, I admittedly never listened to them. I went and tried to listen to American Beauty/Box of Rain at your mention and just laughed. But maybe that's not the "best" Grateful Dead song, right? So I went and looked up what people think is the best Grateful Dead song and "Dark Star" was mentioned at #1 on some semi-credible list. Holy crap...is this a joke? Like, we are bordering on Shaggs level "hahaha it's so bad it's funny" bad. Another site said "Casey Jones" is their best song. Holy god. This is a band with countless songs, right? Like, their "best" stuff sounds like Red Krayola at their absolute worst, like their filler album stuff on "God Bless the Red Krayola." It's even worse than I expected. Like Jesus H Christ deadheads...even as psychedelia there is nothing here. This is just stoned people playing freaking awful music badly.
I really feel bad for the people who dont get it your missing something that is unbelievable
Sure
Who cares what they think eh? Enjoy your peace!
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast it helps if you understand how to escape being trapped in one of your 7 brains, namely the Left PFC, the focus part
So when the Slavers created a culture where you are taught to Focus on focusing and are then punished if you use your right PFC the un focusing part of the PFC
Now the Roman Slave Schools , do a brilliant job of trapping you in your left PFC ignoring the other 6 brains and pretending they dont exist
But that does a incredible job of limiting and narrowing your living experience
But hey Delude yourself into focusing on focusing and focus that focus on focused music for focus sake :)
Ik me and my buddy always talk about how the dead is the only band that is able to get to your soul in a way no other band is able to do, and that we feel so honored to be part of the ones that are able to feel it. I'm talking without any drugs at all.
They were invented by the government
Dude, that's not cool dude
Dude tho
This podcast makes me.want to smoke a big fat bowl of weed
Don’t die
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast the secret to not dieing on weed is to take a couple tabs of fluff and turn Terrapin Station up so loud it shakes your guts . Guaranteed to live
Robert Christgau disagrees.
also would love to hear your opinion on jerrys steel on "teach your children" by CSNY, or on New Riders of the Purple Sage
Your laughs are mix of a toddler laughing at a fart and Beavus and Butthead laughing at anything.
Greatful dead is the 60’s Creed or Nickleback.
Man you're so right about being that swing back and forth God damn. Stoner meltdown woof
This really is awful. I hate even gifting these guys with a comment...
Why watch more than 1 minute of it? Comments are way more fun
The Greatful Dead remind me of over cooked noodles...
The dead have some good songs, but there are times they really do sound absolutely terrible lol
And then there's that ONE time that acid ISN't ANY fun at all. That's the LAST time you EVER take it.
LSD is a medicine,
You take it if your sick
Your comment is like saying I are shit loads of food, and threw up DONT EAT FOOD
Phish too
Jerry and bob were both very good guitarists, other than that good stuff here
I like the Grateful Dead, and genuinely enjoy listening to their old performances. However I don’t like the stereotypical “deadhead”.
7:10 "I am saying objective facts to you right now, this is not my opinion."
*proceeds to tell you his opinion for the rest of the video*
Time to let the cat out of the bag. This was all Just a big troll you guys. They are actually some of the most knowledgeable and dedicated Grateful Dead fans out there. I know them both very well and their bedrooms are covered top to bottom in Dead material. Take this for what it was, a great comedy bit call “Your favorite band sucks”. Get it? They even did one on the Beatles but never released it. It was fucking epic! 😂
Every negative reply is some uptight person stuck in a miserable NON smoking section
Oh, you've never taken LSD, that explains it...
Tyler has a felony for possession of LSD. Got any other hot guesswork for the comments?
@@YourFavoriteBandSucksPodcast Look I listened to enough to hear what kind of person you are, and I really just feel sorry for you both that you'll never understand something so much more complex and interesting than your terrible music reviews. Not that either of our opinions matter, appreciation of art is subjective..
As a musician who loves and enjoys the music of the dead sober, this is facts 😂 I love the music but the culture is kinda mid
Please read the boo' WEIRD SCENES INSIDE THE CANYON ' by David McGowan , it is an interesting take on the whole sixties flower power phenomenon and all the bands that jump started it...PEACE MAN !
Kids...Lou Reed vs Jerry Garcia...ha!
Deadheads aren’t really stoners, more psychonauts
Well I mean THC is psychedelic too but agreed haha.
I searched Grateful Dead sucks and your vid did not disappoint.
100% true!!!! Absolutely hysterical!!!
yes finally
You know, this actually help me get off my soft mentality. I can now appreciate greatful dead songs for what they are. Personally, I find them catchy and very emotional just like most blues are. I do agree that some dead heads can be very close minded individuals but I’ve also met some very kind and open minded ones. I don’t like the fact that you shat on them, personally because I would never do that. I wouldnt shit on metálica or Pink Floyd or Clapton just becuase I don’t get their music or I think their music is not my type. Because they all have their different meaning so it doesn’t make sense to judge. But it’s a free country so whatever.
I bet you'd let someone steal your car.... take your keys.. they have no gun or knife and just say "give me yer car"
It's a free country so whatever....
You may as well have called them The Walking Dead. The Greatful Ded are that one band people like Olivia Rodrigo (can you do an episode on her yet?) like to rave about to make them sound like they’re “not like other girls”, and they have “different taste”. Meanwhile mocking ppl who are ACTUALLY not like other girls (me). It’s this weird taste over taste thing that runs amok circa 2020 onwards and I am not cool with it.
What's so great about using rock instruments to play elevator music? When it comes to religion in music, deadheads are the worst offenders. Anything can sound good if you're sufficiently wasted. I've never tried acid because if it makes the Grateful Dead sound good, what's the point?
Wildest part of this.
Guy comments heavily on the effects of lsd mushrooms while also stating he’s never done them….
That’s like giving a review of a film you’ve never seen but being incredibly confident in your stance.
Then he goes into a rant about the iconography of the band and it’s fans for 20-25 min of a 36 min talk.
Not a single discussion about the music at all.
If I have to explain you wouldn’t understand. These guys are clowns on the side lines commenting with no life experience.
Tbh, feel very sorry for the level of ignorant judgements on display here. Embarrassing to post.
the fact you think you have to partake and indulge in lsd to understand that if you consistently take them your brain will get fried shows you might have done a little too much lsd in your past buddy
Now that I’m dead I love the dead. When I haven’t died yet I didn’t like them. Weird right? Guess dead people love the dead. I totally get why these dudes don’t like the dead, I didn’t get it or like either until everything that I knew was torn to shreds by the force of pure love. Until that happens to you this band won’t make any sense and in fact will rub you the wrong way. (Because it’s trying to destroy you) Have a good one!
Theyre my favorite band and i found this fucking hilarious. these people need to chill
I went to a big Grateful Dead cover band performance lastnight and couldn’t get into it even though I was trying to be open minded. The whole thing seemed like a walking hippy cliche with no substance.
I don’t blame you. I grew up going on dead tour, and even I don’t enjoy many of the cover bands. It’s the crazy instrumental parts of the Grateful Dead that I really like, and most cover bands aren’t talented enough to do that aspect well.
Wait a minute, I thought I was listening to a podcast about the ambivalence of the dead music and lack of contribution to society, not a mad libs Reefer Madness/Music Edition. Sounds like your real "beef" is your delicate tolerance and how you can't handle your substances. I was really hoping you'd focus more on the Peter pan syndrome or dead heads. But you keep inserting hippie with dead head, and they aren't the same thing. Dead heads will even tell you that, because they're exclusionary. And I hate to break it to you boys but the food you eat and the drinks you drink ARE drugs. Just because you dont have tolerance doesn't mean others are as weak as you. In fact MDMA and psychoactive s are used for depression and anxiety. Coincidently the hate on hippies is ignorant. You seem to be children in slightly matured bodies, especially with the inability to actual intelligent commentary and not just your own opinions due to lack of understanding. Quit generalizing please. And maybe ask questions, dont assume. As far as I see, you're actually acting like the exclusionary deadhead assholes, that are part of thenrpobelme with the culture... but because you're claiming anti, you believe youre above it. That's crap. Much like on the way, I'm not a FAN of the dead, but you could say I'm one of the BIGGEST fans because I once travelled 8 hours in a blizzard to go to a Schwagg Show. That's a dedication the "heads can recognize. Get over your separatist nonsense.
I listened to the dead bc of my neighbor who was a deadhead, fucking hated it, came back to listen to them a little after I turned 21 after having a conversation with him about how much I disliked their music, and he told me to listen to st stephen off the live/dead show and I actually found it enjoyable. I was completely sober. I feel like a lot of the shows aren’t amazing but a few are pretty good.
my dad and uncle were heads and always showed me the music when i was a kid and i hated it every time, when i turned 20 i tried it again and havent looked back
Wheres a good place to start with them? Just looking for some new music i mostly actually like when other bands cover them but never found them enjoyable personally yet
I got a picture of Jerry in my room 😂interesting conversation I tend to disagree with the broad sweeping generalizations of hippies. A lot of dead heads I met are lawyers and doctors I even met a dead head cop. STORY TIME: my first phish show these super trashed guys on the way back from the show “this is why we come to phish TO DO DRUGS!” They thought everyone on the shuttle would cheer loooool we all just laughed at them. no bro we are here for the music. These are the type of people who somehow give us a bad name even though they are the minority of respectable concert goers. After we got back these dudes popped the emergency back door and ruined the drivers night we all apologized for them :/
Noodle dancing 😂😂😂😂😂
NoodleTools
I'm 50 and I went through my hippie phase back in the 90s and everything that you're saying is so true, lol! Most of my friends were dirty aimless hippies and I can't stand them now. God their music sucks and there's nothing I hate more than the noodle dancing, lol!
Damn, when you guys join the Taliban?
i did acid and saw Wolves In The Throneroom Play and realized those guys suck.