This is What a *Perfect* $7,000 eBike looks like
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2023
- A few months ago, Lyric cycles made waves with the introduction of their graffiti and voodoo e-bikes. These are high end bikes with super73 looks combined with crazy power. A few months later, the bikes are no longer prototypes and have some big changes. Today we explore the new lyric voodoo and lyric graffiti.
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Thank you for making this. Lyric looks like they are doing some cool stuff. Would love to see you covering more of their stuff if you ever gets your hands on any of it. 👍🏻
Love the pedals for show - not just for legal purposes but because I can tell my mom it’s a moped and not a motorcycle. She’d worry about me way less 😂
The price is really the only thing holding it back from dethroning the Onyx RCR. $2,000 is a lot of money.
The Graffiti X looks so sick!
Appreciate the comments and review. The Voodoo is a monster now. We have created the new product line to offer a power option for all. Happy to answer any questions you ever have. Thanks again.
Onyx and surron did this smarter by not adding a VIN . People still get them registered if they want with the frame number, but having a vin like voodoo is going to get you in trouble because it gives the cop something to look up. Therefore negating the fact that it’s not an E bike. Pedals and vins don’t go together in this day and age. So lyric I’m sorry, but this bike should definitely include pegs not have to purchase them. Because it’s more illegal with pedals than pegs. I’m tired of worrying about this bike lol I just want it as an E bike I guess it’s not for me. I already have my motorcycle, car and Van. I guess I will just get a 60 mph push scooter with a removable battery now that they’re making them. Ha no hard feelings. I’ve came to the conclusion that if this bike didn’t have a Vin, I would buy it.
@@MITCH1221 Thanks for your feedback. So you know, the DOT law in both Canada and the United States deems "footrests" as required for mopeds and motorcycles and has approved the use of pedals as these footrests. So it actually isn't "more illegal", it has already been legally approved with pedals. If your concern is being pulled over by a police officer, then that concern still exists on a Sur Ron and Onyx. Technically road rules don't allow any moving two wheeled vehicle with a throttle above 20mph. If you were ever pulled over by a police officer it's not that the VIN is easy to find and can be "looked up", you would be in the same situation as you would be if pulled over on an Onyx, Sur Ron, or any other vehicle traveling at the speed that the police officer was alerted to in the first place. While it's fun to think that the police could think you could pedal your way to 65mph it's not going to be likely, so we would rather that people did the work to register and insure our bikes and we have set them up this way so that it is easier to do. For our upcoming Graffiti X we have tried to satisfy riders like you that want the fastest bike possible in stealth "bike" clothing. So that may be more up your alley.
@@lyriccyclesthank you I didn’t know that I really just want the extra power for hills and if I have to dodge out of a car not planning on using it at high speeds. If, and when I can figure out if I can register it as a moped, and get moped insurance. then I will most certainly buy it. It would be perfect. If you were bike came locked the class 2 at time of purchase, and then people could not have to register it and just get insurance e-bike insurance!
On the Voodoo’s product description it says it comes with a pedal kit that is electronically actuated. Does that mean it has pedal assist?
@@mikes96fs no, not really. The pedals aren’t attached to anything on the rear wheel. If the bike is off the pedals turn but would not move the bike. When the bike is turned on turning the pedals makes the bike move because it signals the motor to turn.
I currently own an Ariel Rider x-class 52v (that I’ve upgraded a few things on, and I love it.)
But a few days ago I saw this beauty… definitely interested, enough so that I’m considering selling my x-52 and taking the next step up in terms of power and speed.
The voodoo looks great!
I intend to get the 2023 voodoo coming up soon, I’ll likely make a review even though I’m not a RUclipsr just cause I haven’t seen a lot of coverage on their bikes
6:03 those are DC fast charging stations. You can't charge there. It's only compatible with level 2 j1772 "220v AC" stations.
I really like the new Ristretto 512 First Edition, What a nice ebike with a powerful middrive and a monster battery pack.
Hey, I was looking at the Ristretto too! Have you ever written a mid-drive and what's the real difference?
@@tonyholmes9024 instant torque I believe. Faster accelaration
@@luxa_soc Thanks. Do you have to continuously pedal or can you use throttle only if you choose to?
@Tony Holmes you can do either of those two💪
@@tonyholmes9024 What I like is the settings where you can lower output to be legal and change to full power when you are allowed to use it. Amazing powerful bike over any other I've seen.
have you guys shipped any out yet ?
I want the Ghost so bad!
The new 2023 graffiti is sick and the 60volt version is going to be better
I am still not ready to drop that kind of money on an e bike. I have a honda shadow 600 and had a suzuki intruder 800. For $5000 and up I would get a gas motorcycle. As far as e bikes I sold the Jansno x50 which I felt was a good bike and bought the Euybike s 4 for $1,500. It has a bigger battery and motor than the Jansno hopefully it is just as powerful if not better. Waiting to see more on that Raev Bullet Gt!
CRF300l or KLX 300 for that money all day
@@plokmko0 I tell you though if Super 73 drops the cx1 for $5,000 with no dealer fees I would consider it. But they are saying like $10,000 which is insane. Even new gas motorcycles are insane I would just buy one on marketplace with no miles on it for like 2 0r 3k off sticker price
Do I have to pay insurance with the Voodoo?
I’d like to see the performance on hills which seems it will not have any issue as the nominal power is high. Also the true miles will be interesting. I see it being around 45 miles very possible 55 as advertised. A current ideal number would be a hundred plus miles, but that would require a lot more battery as the technology is not there on the market for such mileage with less battery weight. You’d think with the price point compared to non EV’s it would/should be able to reach reach 150-200 miles in distance. Oh well one has something to look forward to hopefully in the near future. Where are the battery technology upgrades as that hasn’t kept up with the rest of EV’s in general.
Look up ssb battery. We are making battery upgrades crazy fast in all actuality, we’ve went through about 3 types of recharging batteries in the last ~30ish years if I remember
100 miles of range is possible, but as you said, needs a lot more battery capacity and this comes with cost. Damon Motorycles is building a 200 mile range electric sport bike, but the price is over $30k. You don’t have to worry about the Voodoo on hills. It accelerates faster than you can barely hold on. That motor is crazy.
$7k is a lot, but if you can road register it, then it’s an interesting option. Light, versatile, charging options……
I'd LOVE to get this bike. Pitty that it's sold out and no word on when it'll go back into production. :(
As someone going from a wolf king GT scooter my only worry is their fixability. I havent been able to ride for 2 months now because of eletrical issues with my scooter and thats when they sell spare parts. I dont wanna drop 6k+ just to not be able to fix it up when it eventually breaks down. Rather do my own repairs than take it to the shop. But goddamn does it look good!
Sur Ron upgraded seems like a better investment than this. These reviewers seem to ride these bikes a few times and judge it as if it were a daily driver for 1k+ miles. That’s why I’ve been very cautious in spending for a good scooter and stuck to a cheaper one that’s easily replaceable though slower and uncomfortable.
@@nabhanq Agreed. I just don't like the look of a sur ron tbh.
@@notenoughhyo honestly same I know for sure living in a place like London riding one of those id get pulled over lol
@@nabhanq well tbf most of these guys have been riding comparative bikes for a few years, I myself have been riding a emtb conversion for 3 months straight and the only issue I ever had was my rear went flat, replaced it with a new tire and a slime inner tube never had a problem since. So at almost 1000 miles I’d say even bottom of the barrel e-bikes (mine was >$600) are really damn reliable
There is also the factor of a upgraded Sur Ron I’ve heard is like 10k after getting the motor, controller and battery upgrade
The Voodoo and Ghost have all of the typical parts of an upgraded Sur Ron but for significantly less money. You’ll be $9-10k into a Sur Ron before it can keep up with the Ghost and Voodoo
aniioki or eunhara both have bike for 2k ish that has a 52 volt 60 ah battery
Man I would love to have these things in germany.
The voodoo reminds me of a modern style simson, something like a simson spatz SR4-1.
These would NEED to be registered here, the laws arent as lax as they are in the US
You could register these sorts of bikes with a basic motorcycle license, and a max power of 11kw or 35kw (A1 or A2 license
..or just dont, nobody really cares anyways.
I know someone who has been running a 4kwh, 72v, BAC4000 surron for 2 years without registering it and hes been fine.
It's nice but it costs to much money I decided to get a SX 250ie ebike!😊
Graffiti is the winner... long seat, adjustable bmx handlebars, should make pedaling ok. love onboard charger idea though. 15a is plenty from regular socket, but EV charger support useful. Otherwise voodoo is crap non bicycle. Rather have regen than ultra torque.
I want the voodoo but I hate the look! 😢😩 I wish it looked more like the Surron light bee or solar eclipse bikes. But 65+ mph?!!! Heeeck yeah!!!!
The voodoo looks better especially the midnight how can you hate the look 😂 but they could had did better than the ugly green color
I purchased the 305-Ghost version and it should be delivered in late June.
I did in march after purchasing they stop answering email I only emailed them after they change the bike.. which I have the risk to ask since I paid in full during the old model… for this I don’t appreciate them .. so I just want my bike this month which I doubt it’ll be ready anyway .
Their refund policy sucks too. Saying delivery dates is just an estimate which mean we can be waiting for months and can’t get a refund if wanted
@obeii1 Andrew messaged me on May 9th that deliveries would start going out towards the end of June. In order of purchase date, some people ordered in October 2022, I ordered on March 30 2023.
@@MadMikeBikes we’ll c cus andi Hadnt replied to my messages but I don’t think it’ll be ready cus they changed a lot last month right before delivery. But I still think it’ll b one of the best for the price.. I’m in Philly in I hope I can get a plate , cus I’m not even going to try to e bike this bike n get my shyt pounded lol
@@obeii1805 yeah, that's bullshit that they do that in Philly. I'm in Pittsburgh and they're not that strict. I'll plate it but only if the cops hassle me. Until then I'm gonna chance it.
@@MadMikeBikes lol they see u going 60 miles they’ll soon start paying attention only to see no plates lol they’ll pull u over .. it’s only a matter of time . Like a bomb ticking .. 7k u paid too much 4 that hassle. Plus bro u want insurance if companies will insure it.. I’m sure these bike can’t take a bump 4 shit . Believe me I understand and I was saying the same to myself but once I thought it through it’s best to get it plated
The voodoo is too expensive but it does look cool.
Not if you consider how much it costs to modify a sur ron or an onyx
The voodoo is already faster out of the gates with no mods
basically sums it up
Looks better too
$7k is super high, and that’s the biggest disadvantage, or pretty much the downside, of this electric bike because it’s not affordable. Calling it a "perfect" bike is an overstatement and asinine.
Lyric Cycles took many payments for their 2022 Graffiti. Ask them how many they delivered to those paying customers?? And now they are moving on to Version 2 and scamming people with a new "prototype." Give them your money at your own risk; you've been warned. ; )
I hadn’t came across anyone saying they been scammed and hadn’t received the bike. Where can I find this info at
@@obeii1805 see my comment on this thread about 2 weeks ago, he is 100% right, buy a Lyric at your own risk, I did and feel like a fool for thinking it was a good idea. So many better cheaper options out there if you take the time to look. I will NEVER do business with Lyric again!!!
At this point they should just make it into a motorcycle.
I bought the original Graffiti and cant even sell it now for half the price because people know its crap and the company decided it was better to discontinue the bike and start over after 5 months on the market. But don't listen to me, go ahead and buy one of Lyrics hypothetical ebikes from the pretty renderings while they promise specs from a bike that doesn't yet exist. If I am lying then prove me wrong by showing the actual bike that you tested to prove your claims. And the batteries on the Graffiti were complete non- UL listed garbage which kept blowing fuses and effecting the whole electrical system. But I am sure now they only make good bikes, lol.
The prototype was a silent 65 mph hub motor. Now it's a noisy mid drive. No thanks.
They took so long, they had time to copy other frames. And listen to others criticism, about said bikes. They BETTER, have a better product.
Lyrics base model went from being unique 2500 watt motor, regen breaking, unique colors and made that model obselete replacing it with a weaker , non regen breaking , gen 2 1000 watt model to look like a super 73 and less powerful than a grizzly. It just ruined what was unique about the bike. The x is going to be like 4 to 5 grand and is ugly. Just company sold out and changed all points that made people buy the graffiti then made it obselete for an inferior logo driven, less powerful bland product. If i purchased the original like i really wanted to i would now be livid. The voodoo and ghost are cool but not practical for most people.
The X is not going to be that price. It’s basically the 2022 graffiti with suspension and a 60v battery. Trust us, you’re going to love it
@@lyriccycles So ready for the launch of the Graffiti X!
My ebike with qs273 motor destroys all of those lol
Love the ev charging but it looks too much like a motorcycle and not a bike. And I would never register my electric bike cuz it’s a bike y’all. 😊 I prefer Cab Motor Woks Eagle over the Lyric
The eagle looks like a straight up E dirt bike, I don't see that riding in the streets anymore than the lyric.
What is the point to talk about ebike that you are not actually testing in the video?
Why you keep calling these e-bikes. They are low speed scooters or eletric motorcycles. Some are just e-motorcycle
That much and you dont even get a colored lcd screen...😅
Theyre profiting so much out of idiots its not even funny.
more like the "doo doo". This bike is not UL listed. Beware of any company that sells from 3d renderings and not actual pictures of a real bike. It means the bike does not exist and any performance claims are theoretical, if I am wrong lets see pictures of the bike now if it exists. There are just too many nice models coming out this year cheaper and UL listed. New York will not allow sales of non UL listed ev's due to all the fires from cheap non UL batteries. Don't get burned by Lyric Cycles!!!
A lot of ppl have a graffiti so I don’t think the companies a scam
@@obeii1805 that's funny, ask someone who bought one what they went through or better yet look at some of the videos on you tube and read the comments. Not saying you won't get a bike from them, just a warning that it's going to be crap
@@obeii1805 this sums it up pretty well ruclips.net/video/X0bXqUSjbKo/видео.html
@@gordonlardi5194 idk I see good reviews and comments on the graffiti
@@obeii1805 go ahead buy it, tried to save you money but it's a free country
I can imagine an ebike worth 7 grand. This isnt it. It's BS how little innovation there is here. It's all off the shelf stuff people put on their Surron.
You could buy a Talaria xxx for 3 grand, and have a better bike. You could put 2 grand into it and beat it in all categories. Silly
It has motorcycle parts
That's an E-Motorcycle and needs to be registered and INSURED !!!