DJI FPV Goggles Integra Review - $150 Less Than DJI Goggle 2
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- DJI FPV Goggles Integra Review for O3 and Avata, Drone and FPV
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00:00 Start
00:55 Integra Goggles What's New
03:42 Closer Look At The Goggles
06:04 Facemask Vs G2
07:22 The Built In Battery
08:02 Battery Teardown
10:38 Battery Charging
11:35 Goggles Controls
12:15 The New Optics & FPV
13:39 Optics Comparison
15:05 Software & FCC Hacks
15:49 GPS & RID
19:49 Flight Tests
24:05 Fitment Thoughts
26:23 Should You Buy The Integra Goggles ?
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Ian, thanks for the review! You go into so many technical details! (battery from inside, FOV overlays, RF spectrum, ...) Pleasure for my technical mind.
You're unique source of many important info that the community wants to know.
Should have called them the Goggles 2 v2🤣
😅
I have them, you need to activate them with the dji assistant 2 (consumer version) NOT the assistant 2 fpv version. No joke
Gg2 -v2😂
You mean goggles 2 v0.5
G2 v0.5
Well done and thank you Ian, a very informative, unbiased and thorough review.
Fantastic review, Ian! Thanks! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
great review with qualitative details as usual and expected in your channel. thanks for my future saving 👍
Man i love your review the attention to details specially for people like who love criticism in a productive manner lots of love maaan
You are the best i prefer your reviews over any other youtuber ❤
Man keep up the good work i have followed you since the community was bashing you about the honesty ❤
thanks for the review! I was very confused by which to buy, really helped! thank you a lot for the deep explanations!
Thank you for this video, I'm very new to the drone world and already in dire need of some FPV. As someone with a lot of experience wearing NVGs in a military setting, that counterweight from the battery pack sounds like a godsend regarding neck fatigue. I don't know how much the goggles might weigh compared to the NVGs I wore, but any weight in the front of the neck is always putting an additional strain on the neck muscles and I'd rather avoid that as much as possible. I understand I could just attach the battery pack on another model to the back strap, but having it already integrated is a huge plus for me. I think you've sold me on the Integra as well as earned a subscriber. Keep up the good work and thanks again!
Thanks for the info man! I was trying to decide between the goggles 2 and the integra and I think I will go with the integra now. You are awesome!
Thanks for such a detailed review so quickly.
Thanks for the review! Amazing job 👍
Great review Ian! Cheers 🍻
A very detailed video, i am about to spring for an Avata and was torn between the goggles, i think you convinced me to save some money and get the goggles integra.
Thank you sir. I appreciate the simple explanation.
Great review Ian
Great review!
Great review ! Thanks
Thank you. Now I understand what's going on with the different goggles.
Great video Chris Hau
Thanks a lot for your really good review!
Do you know if there is an option to have video out over USB-C while charging?
tks my friend! great review!
Great video....THANKS!!
Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for the info but I still like the goggles 2 with the focus adjustment. At first I hated the touch pad but now I'm used to it and it didn't bother me anymore.
Glad they gave it a name like the Integra. Goggles 2 goggles v2 like what the hell. been using a battery clip for the back of the gogglesv2 and short cable and they are perfect. It is better to have the batteries interchangeable. Dislike when gear is being reviewed by others and they don't even have the actual product they are reviewing. Great video and information as always.
DJI finally did _something_ about the comfort and optics issue that so many had with the Goggle2. I can see everything clearly edge to edge in these. The field of view is smaller, yes, but that's not what I'm thinking while flying. Since it's at 100% of the display configuration, it looks natural. With the headstrap, you can angle it upward off your cheekbones and a nose a bit to relieve the bridge pressure if you're someone like me. The face mold needs to be reworked to make the comfort perfect, but it's probably not going to happen -- the head pillow/strap system is an alright compromise. Definitely better than Goggle2 for me in those categories, great overview Ian.
Similar results to me overall.
It's interesting one of the reasons Fat Shark gave for their HD3s having a narrower FOV than their HD2s was that it was not possible to engineer blur free edges with ther HD2s wider (50deg or so IIRC) than the narrower HD3s FOFV (45 deg IIRC). I may have the FOVs of the Fat Sharks wrong - it's been years since I've read FatShark spec sheets, but it sounds like DJI might be having the same challenge.
@@1337fliteHD2 FOV was 50 degrees and HD3 dialed that back to 42 degrees but you are correct nonetheless in your assessment that this was an issue that Fatshark also faced and it was a reason for scaling back the FOV.
I think DJI simply failed to do enough facial and optical diversity testing, or they would have figured out that G2 were a bad goggle design. Somehow, even with their multi million dollars of resources ended up making the same mistake Fatshark did many years prior and it’s shockingly stupid and surprising to me tbh.
I called it that DJI would NOT do anything to fix the G2 also, because their options for doing so were limited. And that anyone unhappy with them should return them. Then they release the Integra which is what the G2 should have been...
amazing review
Thanks!
Thank you for your informative review. Best one I've seen. Is there a way to set up the Integra to record automatically when bound to a caddx unit?
I would have bought it if it had hdmi input to it, it would have resolved almost all my needs, thanks for the awesome review Ian
Great content and review. I like what I see but a huge exception. What would have been a bright idea by dji is to utilize new screens to achieve the 120hz refresh rate the v2’s have. It’s a noticeable difference when flying aggressive freestyle and it baffles me.
i think we kinda lack good info on what its like to use the v2's with 03 units, 16-9 cameras versus native 4-3 cameras, i noticed a big difference switching from 16-9 to 4-3, more than i anticipated. so i'm imagining going back with the 03 units as a definite loss of vertical fov, possibly experts can fly fine with it but beginners and non experts would really miss that extra fov.
Thanks Ian for your excellent review. I have eye issues, glare related. I'm interested in the DJI goggles for the reduction in glare and hopefully better sight of where the drone is going. I'm primarily interested in getting excellent video. The video you show is likely from the controller or headset. I have the Mavic 3 Pro. Do you know, will the video record in 4k in the Mavic 3 Pro while using the goggles? Is there an option with the Integra goggles for Cinematic mode? Or is that unnecessary in your view?
Awesome review! G2 seems have infinite diopter adjustment while this one has in 1 diopter increment. If reviewed by glasses wearer verdict could have been somewhat different. To me it seems integra is G2 SE, a stripped out cheaper version.
thx. for making it easy to head for the integra. In Europe/Germany the difference is 190€, plus the Battery it adds uo to 229€. Definitly ok to save some Money for an O3 Air Unit!
Would love a comparison of the V2 vs the Integra! :-)
Great review. I seriously appreciate all the work you put into this review. The FOV comparison Action2 images were critical for me. I was just about to pre-order the G2's and now I have some decisions to make. Integra or G2. I will absolutely try my friends G2's to see how the optics are for me before I decide.
This was done in under 24 hours lol. A big task.
If you find out about any replacement foam for goggles 2, let. Us know. I would not purchase the Google until someone offer a foam to add to the goggles, goggle 2 has so many light leaks turn goggle screen of in mid flight, have to where them real tight to get them to work. Can't fly long with the goggles that right.
@@MadRC Hello, nice review. They stripped wireless streaming, but could you please confirm if they still have the broadcast mode to be able to share the video to another pair of goggles, or to receive the feed from another pair of goggles? This feature is a make or break for me.
@@Rueges I have the Integra and Broadcast mode is still available
Great review, Ian. Maybe now it’s time for a comparison between the v2s and the Integras. With the new firmware update for the v2 goggles and legit support for canvas mode the only advantage I see with the Integra over v2s is the oled screen. Prove me wrong! Man, I love the way my OSD looks now ❤❤❤
Yeah but the oled screen is supposedly a lot better? I just bought them will post here my experience. Currently using the v2 Goggles. I am just hesitant on the fitment of the nose at this point. I tried the Goggles 2 and did not like them at all. Immediately returned those.
@@publicname515 I tried the goggles 2 on at bestbuy and surprisingly they fit me pretty well. I’ve had my nose flattened unintentionally a few times though so that might have something to do with it lol
@@SkeezyFPV 🤣
Thank you for the review. How many other dji drones will these work with?
Good explanations but in a few years with stretching and getting wet because of the summer heat.
How much for a new battery and head strap ?.
I have the Google V2 and Goggle 2 I like them both and both got new face foam. The Goggle V2 are so good and solid. The goggle 2 reminds me of my Fatshark HD O2 as far as fitting for the face. But I needed a new face foam for them as well. Got a big head,,,lol. Thanks for that. Very happy to have paid a bit more for the goggle 2.
Thank you for the great information.
Not liking the battery arrangement. Can't plug in my headtracker unit.
Fixed lenses could be troublesome if you share your goggles with someone else.
Having the GPS so you do not need to connect to your phone is a big plus.
Do you know if the DJI RC Motion 2 controller is compatible with the DJI FPV drone ?
thank you for another great video- in the absence of a record button does that imply that the original air unit will auto record? On the goggles 2 it has to be done manually (unless I was doing it wrong)
Great job again Ian. Thank you. I need to ask if anyone has tried the new foam replacement from iFlight? I’m tired of buying new goggles and HDZero’s should be here soon. I like variety, but not enough to get the Integra 1’s. 😊
Excellent review & professionally done.
Much appreciated!
Great review! I think I'll go with the goggles 2... I think! 😅
Great detail. I had the DJI FPV drone for about a month but the goggles FPV 2 was just so uncomfortable that it all went back. I am keen for the new Avata with the new goggles but a bit worried that the goggles is still shaped like the old one. Do you know if there was a major change in face shaping?
"Well, I use the word sunshining loosely here in Wales" 😆
great review! Thank you for that! Is it possible to take off the headstrap and exchange it with a 3rd party one somehow? (maybe with custom made parts?) If so, what does the power input connector on the goggles side looks like?
At the moment it looks fixed but we will need to see
Doing the math: With my V2 goggles and their 54 degree FOV, it's soooo much FOV that I, and most I've heard, dial back the FOV. In the menu we can adjust the image size by 10 degree increments. I personally use 80% and think that's much better because the 54 degree FOV is too immersive and it looks like you're trying to take in an IMAX like FOV from a goggle...Kinda. lol So, if we do the math and take that 54 degree FOV and multiply it by 80% we get 43.2 FOV. Gee, that's oftly similar to the 44 degree FOV of the Integra goggles. Hmm, sounds like what I'm already used to with my V2 goggles. It would appear to be just perfect for me, and maybe a lot of folks! Now if we could just rid ourselves of the MY PILLOW/BATTERY CLUSTER FUC% ON THE BACK! LOL 🥴
Maybe some really smart, genius type guy, can figure out how to completely remove that My Pillow CF and let us use the lipo in the pocket technique many of us have been used to for several years! Who at DJI thought this pillow deal was a good idea?! More weight on my head....great! 🤷♂🤦♂
You must have a really tiny head
NICE
it might be important but I like that they had added the lenses into the even cheaper package cause I can remember that the RE came without and that I had to pay 40€ or so on top, later when I needed different lenses I was not able to get them anymore which is a shame, even third parties missing to produce them.
What I still do not know or might have overheard is the fogging issue the FPV Goggles 2 were famous for.
Thanks a lot for such a fast in depth review pointing out the important points, even though I am still not sure what I might be missing without the wifi considering that the goggles have to connect one way or the other to the drone or air unit or via Phone.
At the end dji is fighting the others back with a cheaper option. They must hope to gain marketshare otherwise this product does not make sense. Better optics on the cheaper product is not the best reference for the 150€ more expensive product. Most likely they will loose more potential GOGGLES 2 buyers to the Integra than conquering from the walksnail & hdzero side.
For me it is an option cause i still rely on dji drones but I need more support of dji drones to upgrade - otherwise I will stay with Mavic 2 another year.
Thanks you, can you shut off the light sensor so the screen stays on with the goggle 2? Great job on video.
I'm waiting for a teardown to see how you could exchange the antennas😁
I'd love to see a teardown of these. I'm curious to see if we could non-destructively remove the antennas and replace with u.fl to SMA (perhaps with 3D printed adapters).
There is a couple videos of someone crudely modding them with external sma antennas but replacing the u.fl to sma with hole drilled but not a 3d printed adapter or anything to replace the original antennas. Someone should see if replaceable strap and wire for the strap to battery in case it fails in the future out of warranty. Would be nice to see same mods as V2 goggles which I cannot find for cheaper like digital to analog, not likely without AV in.
I'm looking forward to DJI Googles that will take advantage of the O4 video transmission system.
I'm surprised DJI didn't make the built-in headstrap battery replaceable. Could have been done fairly easily and would have provided another way to bring in sales. Everyone wants multiple batteries "just in case".
Great review! Would the g2 battery work with usb to usb cable? seems like a nice backup plan...
I wonder if DJi will make it possible for battery pack for Integras to fit the goggles 2
Thank you Ian. As a new FPV pilot I very much appreciate the way you put these technical details tegether. would it be possibke to confirm if these will work with the FPV drone. And if so can i use them together so a second person can come along for the FPV ride so to speak.
Sadly no only O3 and Avata.
when you were flying and talking. the pinched nose sound and only able to breath through the mouth tells me all I need to know. Thanks for taking one for the team. We also know that DJi headstraps wear out badly/quickly. Throw an internal power cable into the mix and that does not sit well with me at all. V2s are still my go to. Plus I can add head tracking for fixed wing with those as per my vids. Cheers
Just to note the flight Audio went though heavy noise removal (resolve voice isolation) as it’s windy as hell. The stock audio is much less nasal. I’m not going to say it’s perfect on the nose however it’s better than my G2. However the overall face shape is the largely the same as it’s still not perfect. It’s better but not perfect.
@@MadRC yeah when I fly with them cus I got a big conker that's how I sound haha.
Haha. Yea your not alone lol
@@MadRC wonder if they will release the faceplate as a spare part. Seems like they have added a little bit of plastic to push the face away slightly... Think that might make the burred edges worse on the g2 mind
They're designed for Asian faces not white man faces 🤥
What do you mean by overlap of lenses? Do you have issues with Goggles2 even on custom foams? iFlight one is great and nah we dont need to see corners sharp, just peripheral.
Hard hats have a similar system for tightening and they seem to last a long time.
I sort of got excited about the RID in the google so we do not have to add to FPV drones used commercially. So for regular FPV drones we do not need to worry about the intrusion of RID either.
What angle and ground speed setting do you recommend for GPS Rescue with betaflight 4.4.0, Chimera 7 Pro V2 and 8000mA LiIon battery?
The goal is to maximize the distance traveled with a minimum of battery.
Hello Ian and I really enjoyed this full review. I have a question if you can help. I’m blind from the right eye. Can I use any DJI goggles with the avata that I want to buy? I’ve asked DJI regarding the goggles 2 and although they said I can, then they changed their reply to no, because the visual is different on each eye. Can you please tell me if that is correct and if this is the same with the intera? Is there another goggle which has the same visual on each eye so I can use? Thank you in advance!
Tak!
Logic step from the V2s for sure. Eventually.
Hi Ian, could you please explain the FOV to me? Are the screen sizes of both goggles the same and that you can see is different or you see the same but the sizes of the screens are different? Thank you
Great video! I'm having issues binding my mini 4 pro motion control to the drone. Goggles work great with button function but does not bind with drone??? Please help and make a video...
The Oculus quest 2 has a really similar strap tightening wheel and the plastic teeth did strip after 2 months of frequent use.
Every hardhat I've worn in the past 20yrs has this mechanism. Have not seen a single failure.
@@dr0n3droid i feel like they use better plastics on hardhats. More like the tool plastic than the consumer electronics plastic
Thank you for good job. Could you tell me is there Yagi antennas or something other ways to extend work distance of DJI Integra Googles or it is only for DJI Googles 2 ?
Honestly, DJI didn't make it an easy choice between the Integra and the G2. But I went for the Integra yesterday. Hope I made the right choice.
Why couldn’t they have just made the GPS/battery pack as an add-on to the existing goggles? Do you think there’s any chance they will offer this in the future so that existing goggles to owners can have the convenience of not flying with a phone connected?
Thank you for this! I was wondering if you had the chance to take apart, look inside the goggles integra and see if those two antenna can somehow be removed / hacked / or changed to aftermarket ones somehow?
There are ufl in side just like the G2.
It's not like goggles 2. Completely different. Those 2 antenna can not be removed
@@MadRC sounds promising :) Thanks!! Love your channel
OUCH I had it all wrong! I was able to try on both of these at the mall recently when I inquired about ordering the Mini 4 Pro. The salesman flew the Avata around the store while I viewed the flights through each goggles set. I liked the Goggles 2 better specifically because of the individual diopter adjustments, so they were perfectly clear. To a lesser extent I liked them because of the wider field of view. In fact, I thought the Integra was the older model since it lacked diopter adjustment. Also, the Thai salesman didn't mention that Integra includes a set of corrective lenses. In my case Integra wasn't quite clear. Gotta admit it's puzzling that DJI can apparently make Integra, including a box of corrective lenses, cheaper than Goggles 2. Go figure. I'll go with Goggles 2 now that the latest Mini 4 Pro update, thankfully, allows using either set.
Merry Christmas & just subscribed!😁
Great review like always! Question: it’s possible to have goggles Integra and Goggles 2 bind to Avata at the same time to share View with someone else?
There is a Spectator mode on O3 that allows you to do this.
Thanks for all the info 👏👏. I am just getting my first fpv and thought Avata best option. As a glasses wearer would you go Integra or goggles 2. And would you recommend a sim. Thanks
I just learned that the Avata is really screeching loud. Also, I didn't realize its is over 250 grams and therefore needs to be registered and have remote ID.
I just happened to learn about the Flywoo Flylens 85, and its super quiet, and doesn't need to be registered.
and that uses the 03 dji camera, and therefore is compatible with the integra goggles. At least watch some you Tubes on this.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF DJI ADD INTERNAL GPS FOR G2 , OR UPGRADE G2 FOR INTEG...NO PROBLEM
I wonder if the displays are smaller, it's some effect of the optical design, or they set the scaling to 90% in firmware, or some combination. I wonder if it's still giving you 1920x1080 pixels despite the smaller FOV as that would make them a superior pixels per degree then the Goggles 2.
I also wondered this tbh.
If DJI actually get around to adding support for the mini 3 to these I'd probably upgrade to them, can't see the point in upgrading from my V1's at this stage though
They listened to you and have released that support now.
@@noisyminer LOL there's no way in hell DJI gives a shit about what I think 🤣. But yes I saw they've FINALLY added support (should have happened YEARS ago but anyway..). I'll be waiting for the mini 4 that's apparently close to release them I'll be upgrading!
I sent it back the Integra . I like the optics 44 ( is perfect)... but the image is bent( top and bottom) not so much in goggles 2 . Mach light 220-240g on Integra without battery. The deal break is built in battery. You cannot modify it, the strap cannot be replaced ( the cable and connector are very fragile... I know what I'm talking about). That's the reason I sent it back. I wish to be the same as goggles 2 regards the battery. I'm very sad. 😢
What's up with the motion 2 controller looking forward to that is it going to be able to work with the original DJI FPV drone. ?
What about people of 50 with presbyopia?... I'm a little bit worried with focusing issues. May be you can enlighten us?
Thanks for your video... Really detailed and well structured.
How is the battery cable connected to the goggles? Is it plugged in or permanently connected? Could you replace the whole strap+battery if either fails?
This seems like the answer to flying without a bunch of cords dangling from your head
Are the lenses the same size as the pop outs for the v2? I ordered special lenses for v2 with astigmatism corrections (eyes are less round than others).
If we can get the pilot GPS coords over to Betaflight as telemetry, the RTH rescue mode can return to the pilot, instead of the takeoff point.
Also a follow-me mode would be cool when pilot is in the passenger seat tootling down the lane.
This would be cool, I don’t think so but it would be cool
Ahem... Ardupilot
That s a shame DJI do not upgrade Google v2 firmware to support last version of caddx or airunit firmware.... Cause I really like immersive fov of v2....
First of all, once again great video.
If they removed WI-FI for Integra is there any way to transmit vision to the phone like for example via usb-c?
Yea you can still use the fly app to view via usb.
@@MadRC do you know if there is a way to use the fly app while the ham file is active or only without it?
I'm glad there is a more affordable option. Me personally give me the G2s. These are not a upgrade by no means Idk Mad tech selling these as they're better. You flying a Avata and can't head track. The only pro is the price and that's not really a pro these would be much more attractive at 400 or 450. If I couldn't afford the G2s I have I would go with some reverb V2 for $325 and call in a day.
1: Integra can head track
2: I’m not selling these as better, they are just not largely worse.
3: financially they make more sense than the Goggle 2 for 90% of users.
4: V2 are the better option still for most people as these are still premium.
Nice video! Question:
How did you record this OSD information ?
The Goggles 2 and Integra can record OSD onto the sdcard.
Are these new headsets better then the old white ones 5 years a go? I am looking to get back into fpv with the avatar
Will you try to mod the antennas?
And have anyone tried to remove the screws on the front panel of the goggle to see if antenna is locked in with that screw?
I don't see any improvement. I still struggle the same issues as it was in 2. OSD is unreadable and i cannot breath through my nose. Battery on strap is a great idea and yes, smaller FOV is not a big problem
Is there a way to shut off the sensor for the screen for goggles 2, would prefer the screen on when I turn the googles on, or should I just put a piece of tap over the sensor.
Thanks for the review. Do you think this goggle by any chance will support Mini 3 Pro in future ?
They do now.
Sadly i doubt either of them support Mavic 3.. i really need a good new set for my mavic 3 fly alongs! thanks for letting me to quick ..
With the built-in GPS these are more likely to
So if I set my G2 to 90% , can you say it’s the same? Maybe they just hard coded it? Or do the integra offer something more with actual optics?
I think some features were missed off your review, a big one is wireless streaming, I say this is big as I can see this being a thing to connect the mini 3 pro RC to the goggles via the wireless function they stripped from integra
The wireless streaming is part of the WiFi that I said was no longer there. As of now DJI has done nothing with it other than being able to receive DLNA video. There is no wireless streaming out from the Goggles 2 and the Goggles 2 are not comparable with the Mini 3 Series anyways.
Does it have 4:3 fov for the O3 and air units with nebula pro cams or other cam with 4:3 fov support?
I would love to know more
i would buy them, but i hate, that i cant remove the battery pack and use a 2s on the side of a custom strap....this is pretty sad, why they didnt buildt in a normal power plug....
hello friend, nice your video, ask me a question: I put the Han file to release the FCC the maximum I can get in it is 30mbs at 300m the signal is already very bad, can you help??