Brady vs. Mahomes Debate Done or On Hold? Where does Mahomes Rank All-Time? ||The Greg Hill Show!
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Is the Brady/Mahomes comparison over, or just on hold? How does that loss impact the debate? #nfl #superbowl #football
Where does Mahomes currently rank as an all-time QB? Better than Peyton Manning? Joe Montana? #trending #new
Where will Mahomes rank when his career is over?
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Mahomes Super Bowl stats are horrendous. In five Super Bowls Mahomes has thrown 9 tds and 7 interceptions. Should he really be put ahead of Montana?
HELL NO. Not even top 10
More in line w/ Elway than Montana Brady at this point
Exactly. And mahomes is NOT ahead of Peyton either! Manning is light years ahead of mahomes career wise when you look at all the stats.
It’s very obvious why this turd in the middle there is trying desperately to put mahomes ahead of other past legends.
No but Montana only even got to the Superbowl 4 times in an entire career. If Mahomes wins one more he smokes Montana. (Better to lose a Superbowl than to not even get there.)
@@jbbrolic GOAT conversation is about much more than just how many Super Bowls you've won. Bradshaw has 4 rings and is rarely thought of as near the top of the list of greats, whereas Dan Marino has zero rings, and everyone knows he's a Top 5 all-time QB. It's about stats, clutch, intangibles as a teammate, and leadership along with wins. Even if Mahomes won this game, he wouldn't be in the conversation. But he didn't so we move on.
Mahomes will not have the same longevity as Brady because he still relies too much on his legs to make plays. But as he gets older, he will be less quick and slower so he wouldn't be able to get away from defenders to get first downs like he did.
@@sportsavant2937 Brady is also the GOAT of 40yo QBs. Mahomes will be old, slow and heavy in his late 30s and 40s.
Montana > Mahommes
this loss made it virtually impossible to catch Brady now
As of now he’s 3rd at best behind Brady and Montana.
I'd take troy over him at this point or Marino. Or Elway
@@JohnnyD603 let's not forget 1970s Terry Bradshaw who's 4-0 in Superbowls. Mahomes got many people ahead of him before being in the same boat as Brady
Peyton Manning3rd all-time for me. Then Marino & Elway. Maybe Brees. Mahomes not in the convo.
Man Montana defeated 1984 Dan Marinoand that powerhouse Miami offense to get one of his rings!!! lol Honestly that oughta count for two! Lol
@@alkoholic7758 🤣
It's done. Brady went to 10 super bowls. There's a scenario where he could be 10-0 in super bowls. Sure he could have lost some of those wins too but he could have won all the losses, mahomes couldn't have won that game last night, or the one versus Brady and Tampa Bay. There's no scenario where mahomes is 5-0. Let's stop.
Also the loss to Peyton in those two AfC championships in 06 and 15. Pats prolly would have wooped Bears or Panthers again.
@FeedDaMachine yeah I and that colts game there was like six crucial props by wide receivers and they were up by like 21 points. They should have won that game. So yes, we agree.
The GOAT conversation is about the total body of a player's career, not simply wins or losses. Tom Brady is the GOAT not just because he has the most wins, but because of other accomplishments as well. The 4th quarter comebacks, the biggest SB comeback, elevating his teammates level of play, and the fact that he holds many of the most prominent passing records. In other words, TB12 has every element that one would demand from a GOAT. Mahomes winning 3 straight titles wouldn't put him in the conversation when all is considered. And now that he hasn't, the subject is officially closed.
Yeah, that Atlanta SB can’t be forgotten.
And Brady beating Mahomes in SB and AFC Championship.
Mahommes won’t recover from this
To play so badly in a championship proves Mahomes is overrated, and is more interested in shooting commercials for state farm than preparing to play mistake free football. Brady was the total package Mahomes isn't even close.
Brady Montana Manning then Mahomes
For me Mahomes is like Elway with less athleticism but better at the clutch.
The GOAT Brady never got violated in the Super Bowl the way mahomes did last night!
😂😂😂
🐐TB12🐐
Brady violelated him as well.
Except they illegally filmed walk throughs and Brady benefited from Ernie Adams elaborate cheating system in two spygates. There is that
I'd say on hold. We don't know how the rest of his career is going to play out. There's still plenty of time to win 5 more Super Bowls, but whether or not that happens is another story. There will only be one Tom Brady just as there will only be one Patrick Mahomes. Regardless, when it's all said and done, Patrick Mahomes will be remembered as one of the greatest to ever do it. Last night just wasn't his game.
On hold pat mahomes has been blowout in 2 superbowl tom has one 7 and never been blown in a superbowl and had and undeafted regular season the debate is done
Mahomes will hit a Superbowl drought at some point. He doesn't take care of his body like Brady did, so he won't play at an elite level as long as Brady did. So, time is not on his side.
It was never a debate… he just loss the debate with Montana
@@trevorc8778 That's fine. When it comes to how long you play, Tom Brady was the outlier. We all forget that professional athletes are only human. If you're Patrick Mahomes, don't set unrealistic expectations for yourself. There was only one Tom Brady; there will only be one Tom Brady. They may be extraordinary people who do extraordinary things, but at the end of the day, they are no different from you and I: human.
He’s the 3rd or 4th best QB now. No problems with that lol
Let’s see what Mahomes does when he loses all his great players like Brady did.Will he bring them to a SuperBowl with a bad team? Doubt it!
He already lost a bunch... That said Brady actually won a SB with a much more garbage tier roster in 2018.
Montana is number 2 right now. Until he gets to 4 if that happens
2nd best?????? Really? not even top 10.
As far as comparing them to Montana...You cannot compare 20th Century Pro Athltes to 21st Century Pros. The rules, money, technology, and conditioning of athletes, are so much different that there should be 2 separate lists.
Everyone just forgets Montana now. 4-0 in SBs
They were 15-1 but certainly not a dominant team this year
Finally someone speaks up! Peyton Manning needs more respect!
I don't think the conversation is over bc Mahomes is so young but Brady took a massive, massive win yesterday.
Lmfao he said Almost went undefeated... Regular season The Patriots went undefeated....
#15 is an OLD 28,lotta miles on that frame,he has time to win again,I think injuries will ultimately take its toll...he may be done at 34,35...who knows,time will tell..as of today I don't see him catching TB#12..the current GOAT,let's see wat happens the next 5 yrs...🤔
TB12 waited 10 seasons until he won 3 more. Mahommes can’t hang with that
I'm a Jets fan, so no fan of Brady. But there is no debate, he's the GOAT. To do what he did in New England and then go to the Bucs and win a SB there too is amazing. Not a fan of Mahomes either, but he is also only 29. Give it another decade before you start comparing him to Brady.
There was never a goat conversation with Mahomes.
Mahomes has more ints in 5 Superbowl appearance than Brady has in 10 appearances . And anytime Mahomes goes against a good to great defense he loses by 20+ in the Superbowl while Brady beat the legion of boom that had embarrassed Payton and a record setting offense the year before. Plus things like Brady elevated players around him, 28-3 comeback had no gronk Brady was throwing to 3 short white guys . Not to mention prime ravens defense, prime Steelers defense, prime Texans defense and so on. Mahomes is competing against a bunch of Phillip rivers, good regular seasons but rarely make it past the second round.
Brady is goat not just because of his success
But who was going around at the same time
Manning brothers
Roethlisberger
Farve
Rodger’s
Brees
Rivers
Romo
Wilson
Mahomes
These are some of the best qb’s to play for their respective clubs
I think mahomes success has came on the cusp of these players retiring and the next gen still cutting their teeth
Mahomes isn't playing another 15 years and winning 5 superbowls.
His body won't allow it.
Over finito.....Mahomes not even on Montana neighborhood. The guy folded like a cheap tent in 2 SBs.
GOAT? Let’s talk after 20 years.
You take questionable at best, blatant rigging at worst. They were absolutely gifted games. Without the help, they are 500 at best.
Do you factor in today's NFL which is flag football? I'd like to see him play 10, 15, 20 years ago when defense could hit
As a Patriots fan the fact that he couldn't beat Tom Brady Head to Head multiple times he'll never be in the goat status
As a Pats fan, looking back I'm kinda happy now that Tom left us to join the NFC and go on to beat Mahomes in the Superbowl. Just imagine if he stayed a Patriot, we'd never have that to debate against the Chiefs Dynasty. So we sleep very well for the next 10+ yrs. I always say to myself I think Tom foreseen how great Mahomes would be and it played a part in him wanting to change conferences and play and beat Mahomes in the SB to hold that against him before he retired.
The Chiefs played mid-defense in the AFC and played a formidable defense in the Super Bowl with a number 1 defense he looked average. LOL BRADY played the freaking the Legion of Boom in the Super Bowl and looked better then Mahomes looked yesterday.😂😂😂😂
Horrible "Crumble" take by the guy in the black Nike hat. Mahomes has played 6 bad quarters in 21 playoff games. If you're gonna talk on a radio show or television show you have got to have some perspective. He was bad last night and in the second half of the 2021 AFC Championship. To say there's potential to crumble at any moment is insane. He's the least or at worst second least likely candidate at QB to crumble in the history of the game. There's 7 years of playoff games to back that up.
The 2024 chiefs highest scoring game this season was 32 pts that’s it lol 😂 & that was in the AFC championship game
Patriots in 2018 scored 40+ 1x & 30+ 6x that was considered the most recent ‘anemic’ offense of the Brady Patriots era 😂
Chiefs defense & more over supreme luck carried them this year
NE glazing lol
Mahomes is on the way down.
The superbowl was proof that the refs have been helping him for years now. The one time the refs dont call every ticky tack plays for KC they get blown out.
The cheifs were fraudulent during the season. Last night's game proved that. They rely way too much on Patrick instead of having a legitimate running game. That is the risk in mobile qb rather than a pocket qb who can be mobile.
Mahomes is The 2nd Best QB All Time??...WHAT??...Give Me a BREAK...Mahomes Has 1 Plan...Plan A...When Things are Not Going Well He Has No Plan B or C and Just Runs Around Like a Headless Chicken Looking to CHUCK 50/50 Balls Downfield HOPING Receivers Make MIRACULOUS Catches...Eagles Should Have Beat Them Last Time Too...WHEN Has Mahomes Played Good in a SB Game?...Maybe "ONCE"?
the 07 patriots were only good because they had moss. the patriots offensive line wasn't THATgood they got worked in that Superbowl..... not as bad as Philly worked KC last night.
great defenses always take down offenses
....."I wouldn't take mahomes," are you insane?
You clowns thinks pats invented football Yall past due