Refreshed Tesla Model S - long term update and TIRES ARGH!!!! MUST WATCH!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Haven’t posted in a while but some things you all should know about the refreshed Model S Raven/Plaid. I’ll post some more info I learned in a separate video.
Sorry if this video was confusing. Rear tire inner sidewall wore through to cords at 19k miles and again 10k miles later. Tesla had checked tires recent to both events at 7/32 which tells me they don’t actually check. I told them at 30k miles you stated on the paperwork my fronts are at 7/32 but they have 30k miles on them. They called me shortly after I pointed that out to tell me indeed I need new fronts. Moral of the story check your tires…. actually get under the car and look at your inner sidewalls especially if you have the 21” arachnids.
The car has excessive rear camber and toe seems the model S is notorious for this pre raven/plaid and raven/plaid. Car defaults to low at highway speeds regardless of default setting in the suspension settings. Tesla said they align at med ride height. Only way to set med is to manually select med after the car defaults to low at speed. This is the issue with Tesla as they grow. Service is terrible now and they’re already running 3 shifts 24/7 at some locations.
Re: rims… I have the 21” arachnids. 3 bent so get extras. I now have a full set of 4 with new tires ready to go.
I'm glad I got the 19" wheels. Guess I'll keep an eye on my treadwear.
I'll try to do a follow up video soon but I had the car aligned again at a independent shop at low ride height.... it was off and the tires were already showing inner wear at only 5k miles even though I was manually selecting med on the highway per Tesla service center instructions.
So you thought it was a good idea to try to fool, FSD, by thinking that you have your hands on the steering wheel?
In my experience, as the car lowers, the camber increases, which means that the wheels effectively tilt in to provide better handling, but as you've experienced this results in the inner part of the tire. The previous MS cars allowed you to set the speed at which the car would lower, but I don't believe this is an option now.
Do mud flaps prevent rock clips?
always amazed at anyone trusting or buying "autopilot". you're just setting your money on fire. no company has the software or hardware to do it and probably won't for years and years.
Truth
WOW!! 31,000 miles!! Thats amazing!
It’s been a month or so since I made the vid. The car now has 34k miles on it. 😆
I had the same issue with my 22 S Plaid. Super dangerous for Tesla to have a car with ZERO adjustment of the rear Camber link. Solution is with adjustable camber arm from N2tuitive. Problem solved.
Precisely! I had the N2itive adjustable camber arms installed on the S and my model X Plaid. The tough part is getting proper alignments on these cars. Adjusting the N2itive arms is not a straightforward job requires a special clawfoot tool. A real PITA
Hey does the car have the 21" Arachnid wheels ? If so do the front tires hop or skip when doing low speed maneuvers in a parking lot, or pulling in or out of a driveway ?
Yes 21" arachnids. I did have that problem and it went away after the last wheel alignment. I don't think it hurts the car at all and I had perfectly normal even tire wear in the front with no pulling. Nothing to worry about but it was annoying.
@@toothfixer Well, mine is kinda violent. I forget about it, then bam ! it's almost like I hit something with the bumper. It's unnerving. Mine also has milling or grinding from the motor. Tesla had replaced the halfshafts, but it still does it in medium ride height setting. Goes away in Low. I have 5200 Miles
@@danielhajak3151 Mine felt like the tires were going in 2 different directions and slipping so it would make a pop....pop...pop as the wheels were trying to parallel each other again. Nothing violent but alarming and only happened when parking. Went away after my alignment. No grinding motor sounds though. Unfortunately Tesla service has been going downhill. They're running 3 shifts 24/7 and still overwhelmed so a lot of things are getting missed/overlooked or even misdiagnosed. They were quite flippant about insisting that I had to keep my car in med ride height even though that meant a manual override on every drive. They also claimed to have checked tires and tread depth at every visit noting tires were in good shape even though the tires absolutely needed to be replaced at 2 of those service visits.
Tesla is trying to tell me that the hopping or skipping while doing maneuvers in parking lot is normal. And it's due to the 21" tire combo.
Yes, pop pop pop also describes the sound it makes.
No way I’d buy a car that needed new tires every 10k.
6-8k
So the inner doesn’t wear on 19 in wheels?
Did you car come with the P-Zeros? Which tires did you replace them with?
When you say the front suspension dropped to the ground, did that happen while it was parked overnight?
Mine came with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. $1200/pair plus $50/ea to mount and balance plus $300 alignment each time. The Pzeros have same tread wear rating so should have similar wear. Seems there is a limit to alignment adjustments on this car so this is the norm. 8-10k miles per set of rears and only real solution is to get new camber and toe adjustment links which is around $2500 plus install cost. Someone posted in a Tesla forum rear toe is causing the inner sidewall tread to scrub approx 100ft sideways per mile!
FSD is a joke. Can’t believe you got conned into paying for that
That defeat weight isn’t a good idea.
How did you bend your wheels?
Normal potholes the Model S wheels are terrible. Enough that I have a set of 4 sitting in my living room with Michelin PS sitting in my living room with TPMS sensors. LOL
Wow guys. I just took delivery of my S eight weeks ago and you are all scaring me to death with these stories. It sound like Tesla Service is a scam! Did I make a big mistake?
Any updates? thks
There are after market options to fix the rear camber issue
and void the warranty.. :/
Its a known issue. Parker from Vehicle Virgins has the same issue
Sounds like you need to invest in the N2itive adjustable rear camber and toe arms. Since what you are talking about is a known issue.
Yes. I installed the N2itive arms on my model S and X plaid
@@toothfixeris it having a noticeable improvement?
the tire situation is totally unacceptable, I was looking at getting the model s, but im not going to until they fix that problem. Its such a hazard. Tesla obviously has to know about it but they blatantly lie to their costumers
Unacceptable yes but big wheels and low profile tires with treadwear rating of 240… you’re not going to get a lot of miles out of the tires even with zero camber. If you want tires that will last get the 19” standard wheels they come with tires that have a treadwear rating of 500.
@@toothfixer but I thought it was a camber/toe issue, don't all Teslas S/X have it or just the plaids with 21s?
Google it very model s and x have rear tires wear
I see you forgot your cheat device on the wheel
How do we know that the wear isn’t from the cheat device. Seriously it adds weight to the yoke and the arm of the yoke from center is much greater than the steering wheel. Your essentially keeping a light but continuous force on the yoke but maintaining a straight path, that would place the front tires in very slight yaw that would require more correction back the other way causing the rear tires to ever so slightly fishtail.
The tire wear issue is related to the rear tires. Fronts are no problem at all and last 30k easy. Rears have fixed negative camber
That FSD cheat weight has absolutely zero effect on tire wear or alignment. All it does is put a slight load on one side of the steering wheel. The servo motor that the car uses to self-steer puts a counter load on it to keep the car steering in precisely the correct direction. It's no different than manually steering the car. It does not cause the front wheels to have a slight yaw.
@@SpoonerTuner The car is not a drive-by-wire. Are you saying that there is not a direct mechanical linkage? The cyber truck is the only Tesla with DBW steering.
@captguitarj no. I'm not saying it's drive buy wire. The Model S has a direct mechanical link to the front wheels. But it also has an electrical servo motor that turns the steering wheel and sensors that detect load being applied to the steering wheel. The load on the steering wheel could be your hand resting on it or the cheat weight thing. Either way, it makes no difference at the tires. If it's being steered straight it will go straight.
Well that's a big problem. Tesla is always having problems
So what’s your driveway?
Tesla is a joke
So what’s in your driveway?
You can say that I again lol