fair comparison would be to play the same track via both of this amps connected by usb as an audio interface- as You said- MS has much more tweakable interface so the "boxy" sound can be a result of for example poor stock IR packs. Playing a track which is already mixed and mastered would allow us to tell if between these two there is only difference in sound processing or that a bit of muddy sound goes from maybe worse quality speakers. I would love to see that kind of a test!
The Yamaha without any hesitation ... Sounds are clearer, much more precise. The clean channel is unbeatable even with amps three times the price ... Have it, bought the Positive Grid mini and 40 and sold them immediately. Had also a katana air, a vox air ... Sold everything. You can't beat the Yamaha. Quality of the sounds from the Yamaha are just fantastic compared to any other practice amp so far ... Including the boss recent dual cube lx ... Yamaha / Line 6 marriage is a win ... I am disappointed in a way because I would have loved to find another "practice" amp ... So far the yamaha remains the king ...
@@Monkcustom I have eard enough demo to be convinced the sounds are not at the Yamaha level. Too much bass (like the positive grid), kind of "muddy" sounds, not precise I really don't like ... But hey, everyone has its own taste 😉
@@RomainG6409 I understand with you say, but hearing it live is quit different. I will buy it when it is available in the music store in Europe and let you know 😉
The NuX is way too muddy compared with the Yamaha. It becomes even more apparent with the volume jacked up. That said, NuX (Spark too), is still a generation or 2 away. Keep going!
mighty is friendly for practicing, especially the loop function, some issues can be solved by updating the firmware, and I would like to buy Mighty space， if you are pursuing the quality of sound both of them are not the answer, to purchasing the real amp or you can connect the mighty space to the better amp, the design of mighty space is for convenient practicing.
Cool demo, but I do have some questions. Not trying to be a "hater" like you've said to some others in the comments, I'm approaching this in good faith, and appreciate your demo here! Please read the full comment before reacting, I promise I'm not trying to talk shit. :D In my opinion, the THR sounds really clear, detailed, and balanced. Like you said in a comment "more like a post-processed track from a DAW", whereas the MS sounds... gross. Lots of mids and feels very boxy, with a bit overwhelming bass. It feels like it's sort of running amok (much like a real amp may sound, but like, worse?). And then I was wondering if this was due to the proximity and angle to the mic. From the camera angle it looks like the mic is square on to the middle-most speaker from the MS, and is not directly facing the THR. If that's actually the case, then I can see how it's capturing more of the full response of the speaker from the MS and is attenuating some of the same offending frequencies from the THR thanks to off-axis rejection. Do you have any better photos or angles of the mic placement in relation to the two amps? I'd be interested to see if it's just the camera angle that's messing with my brain or if it's really more in front of the MS. I do have a Mighty Air, a Spark Mini, and a Mighty Plug Pro. Neither of the NUX devices sound nearly as boxy, mid-heavy, and sludgey bass like in this demo, so I've got to believe that it's an issue of mic placement combined with recency bias between comparing the THR directly against the MS if the THR is being "thinned out" by the mic placement. Perhaps another possibility is using two mics, each directly in front of their respective amps to negate any sort of attenuation or off-axis rejection? Or if you don't have two mics, just do your demos and then swap out the amp for the other in a second round, ensuring that all levels are the same using a decibel meter on your phone. Looking forward to hearing more, thanks again for the vid!
For the condenser mic, the distance is not so sensitive. And actually, the mic is in the middle between 2 amps. (I set the AKG C414 as Omnidirectional, so doesn't matter the direction.) As mentioned in the description, if I turn THR loud, it will become harsh. So what I did is tweaking both amps at their sweet spots. MS has 4" speakers, so it really has more bass response.
@@Monkcustom ahh, good to know. The pickup pattern on that setting does look mostly uniform across the amid frequencies, so that's clears that up. Thanks for the response!
Quick question, you say you have the Mighty Air and Spark Mini. Any chance you could tell me about your opinion on both and which you prefer. I'm honestly stumped to why there are no comparison videos out there on these two amps. Similar size and capabilities with price tags not far off and there's diddly squat out there! Thanks :)
What volume did you keep the THR at (for the sweet spot sound, after which it gets harsh) ? Did you use Focus or Open speaker tuning on the THR ? Also have you tried the NUX Mighty8 BT Mkii yet ?
Ignore MS included "footswitch, wireless TX, and versatility", just talk about the sound. MS is more close to a real amp punch in your face. THR 30II is more close to the guitar sound recorded and processed in DAW. (I think the cabinet and speaker design make the main difference.)
@@MonkcustomThanks first of all for this precious video. So it is possible to remove the cabinet sim IR from the MS chain ? That would proably give a nore fair comparision .
@@gianlucacupo533 Yes, you can disengage the IR block of MS. THR 30II has Cab Sim, but it doesn't offer IR loader, so how to make a fair comparison? That's the design concept difference between products.
@@Monkcustom You’ right, I did not know THR had a cab sim, it’s just that NMS has a way too bassy, boomy sound in my opinion and I was womdering why and how that can be reduced for a “cleaner” sound. Anyway, THR looks like a superior product when it comes to sound.
@@gianlucacupo533 For MS, you can tweak it easily with IR low-cut function. MS is very tweakable and more complicated for digging. But if you spend some time, the sound can be pretty good. If you are looking for simple tweaking, THR is much easier without flexibility. Depends on what you are looking for.
I own the THR30ii and it does not sound like that at all. This comparison is biased since the creator is trying to sell the Nux products. False representation.
Well, the review is 100% authentic without editing. As you can see and hear I use an A/B switch, and all the signal is continuous, please tell me how to bias it?
@@Monkcustom There are a lot of ways, lower the settings for volume…etc in the THR app, mic distance… Doesn’t matter what you attempted to do. I’m just stating the fact that THR have not been accurately represented in your video. It is also concerning that you are clearly trying to sell the Nux amp.
@@hangryhulk2131 I mentioned the volume difference is related to a "sweet sounding volume spot", you have THR, and you also know if you turn it loud, it will become harsh. I use the condenser mic AKG C414 to replicate what I heard in the environment instead of the dynamic mic to avoid the mic distance difference. As you can see in the video, the mic is almost the same distance between these 2 amps. All the amp settings were also presented in the video. I didn't mention which is better in the video, you judged it by yourself. If people feel THR is their taste, they will buy it. If people like NUX, they will go to it. So " haters gonna hate", no worry. You can keep what you believe.
@@Monkcustom I own the amp and do not claim to be an expert. You clearly demonstrated that, either you do not know the equipment well enough to be qualified to be making comparison videos, or that you are playing dumb after being called out. I’m not a hater and do believe that Nux makes good products. I stumbled upon your video because I was interested in purchasing the amp. The feedback I’ve provided was based on my experience with the amp, the difference between you and I is that I do not benefit regardless of which amp people decide to purchase. My advice to you is that you should, stick with making videos that only demonstrate the Nux products, and not trying to downplay other products, which people actually own and have a good track record. You can also “keep what you believe”, if you think everyone that speaks the truth are haters. Good luck with your business.
@@hangryhulk2131 So you figure out something, you only have THR, but you don't have MS. So you have no experience with MS, and how dare you say the review is BIASED? So you are the one who is unfair, right? Even if everything I present with a clear description, you still only want to say what you believed. Why do I keep your comment and reply to you? Cause the review is 100% AUTHENTIC, it can be challenged. The A/B test is interesting to lots of end users, the audience can judge what they prefer, I just show the reality, and they will make their own decision. Every reviewer can do the content by himself, the audience can choose what they want to watch, and no one asks you to come to watch my review, right?
Thanks for the review Monk, I'll be keeping my THR 30ll most definitely!
fair comparison would be to play the same track via both of this amps connected by usb as an audio interface- as You said- MS has much more tweakable interface so the "boxy" sound can be a result of for example poor stock IR packs. Playing a track which is already mixed and mastered would allow us to tell if between these two there is only difference in sound processing or that a bit of muddy sound goes from maybe worse quality speakers. I would love to see that kind of a test!
not calibrating for loudness - sound pressure invalidates the test, unfortunately!
The Yamaha without any hesitation ... Sounds are clearer, much more precise. The clean channel is unbeatable even with amps three times the price ... Have it, bought the Positive Grid mini and 40 and sold them immediately. Had also a katana air, a vox air ... Sold everything. You can't beat the Yamaha. Quality of the sounds from the Yamaha are just fantastic compared to any other practice amp so far ... Including the boss recent dual cube lx ... Yamaha / Line 6 marriage is a win ... I am disappointed in a way because I would have loved to find another "practice" amp ... So far the yamaha remains the king ...
Yes, give the MIGHTY SPACE a try, and you will be impressed.
@@Monkcustom I have eard enough demo to be convinced the sounds are not at the Yamaha level. Too much bass (like the positive grid), kind of "muddy" sounds, not precise I really don't like ... But hey, everyone has its own taste 😉
@@RomainG6409 No worry, I know most people watch the brand instead of hearing the sound,
@@RomainG6409 I understand with you say, but hearing it live is quit different. I will buy it when it is available in the music store in Europe and let you know 😉
The NuX is way too muddy compared with the Yamaha. It becomes even more apparent with the volume jacked up.
That said, NuX (Spark too), is still a generation or 2 away. Keep going!
Thanks a lot for this. It was just what I was looking for. Now I just need to find out what the acoustic sound on the Nux is like!
mighty is friendly for practicing, especially the loop function, some issues can be solved by updating the firmware, and I would like to buy Mighty space， if you are pursuing the quality of sound both of them are not the answer, to purchasing the real amp or you can connect the mighty space to the better amp, the design of mighty space is for convenient practicing.
Thanks for doing this compariso. It was just what I was looking for.
Great to hear it in comparison. The Yamaha sounds so much better for me. I wish I had it already.
Is that overhead mic how you’re comparing tones?
Cool demo, but I do have some questions. Not trying to be a "hater" like you've said to some others in the comments, I'm approaching this in good faith, and appreciate your demo here! Please read the full comment before reacting, I promise I'm not trying to talk shit. :D
In my opinion, the THR sounds really clear, detailed, and balanced. Like you said in a comment "more like a post-processed track from a DAW", whereas the MS sounds... gross. Lots of mids and feels very boxy, with a bit overwhelming bass. It feels like it's sort of running amok (much like a real amp may sound, but like, worse?).
And then I was wondering if this was due to the proximity and angle to the mic. From the camera angle it looks like the mic is square on to the middle-most speaker from the MS, and is not directly facing the THR. If that's actually the case, then I can see how it's capturing more of the full response of the speaker from the MS and is attenuating some of the same offending frequencies from the THR thanks to off-axis rejection.
Do you have any better photos or angles of the mic placement in relation to the two amps? I'd be interested to see if it's just the camera angle that's messing with my brain or if it's really more in front of the MS.
I do have a Mighty Air, a Spark Mini, and a Mighty Plug Pro. Neither of the NUX devices sound nearly as boxy, mid-heavy, and sludgey bass like in this demo, so I've got to believe that it's an issue of mic placement combined with recency bias between comparing the THR directly against the MS if the THR is being "thinned out" by the mic placement.
Perhaps another possibility is using two mics, each directly in front of their respective amps to negate any sort of attenuation or off-axis rejection? Or if you don't have two mics, just do your demos and then swap out the amp for the other in a second round, ensuring that all levels are the same using a decibel meter on your phone.
Looking forward to hearing more, thanks again for the vid!
For the condenser mic, the distance is not so sensitive. And actually, the mic is in the middle between 2 amps. (I set the AKG C414 as Omnidirectional, so doesn't matter the direction.)
As mentioned in the description, if I turn THR loud, it will become harsh. So what I did is tweaking both amps at their sweet spots. MS has 4" speakers, so it really has more bass response.
@@Monkcustom ahh, good to know. The pickup pattern on that setting does look mostly uniform across the amid frequencies, so that's clears that up.
Thanks for the response!
Quick question, you say you have the Mighty Air and Spark Mini. Any chance you could tell me about your opinion on both and which you prefer. I'm honestly stumped to why there are no comparison videos out there on these two amps. Similar size and capabilities with price tags not far off and there's diddly squat out there! Thanks :)
What volume did you keep the THR at (for the sweet spot sound, after which it gets harsh) ? Did you use Focus or Open speaker tuning on the THR ? Also have you tried the NUX Mighty8 BT Mkii yet ?
thanks! Have you tried using other IRs on the mighty space?
Thank you for the comparison. It was very well done!
Do you prefer one over the other?
Ignore MS included "footswitch, wireless TX, and versatility", just talk about the sound.
MS is more close to a real amp punch in your face. THR 30II is more close to the guitar sound recorded and processed in DAW. (I think the cabinet and speaker design make the main difference.)
@@MonkcustomThanks first of all for this precious video. So it is possible to remove the cabinet sim IR from the MS chain ? That would proably give a nore fair comparision .
@@gianlucacupo533 Yes, you can disengage the IR block of MS.
THR 30II has Cab Sim, but it doesn't offer IR loader, so how to make a fair comparison?
That's the design concept difference between products.
@@Monkcustom You’ right, I did not know THR had a cab sim, it’s just that NMS has a way too bassy, boomy sound in my opinion and I was womdering why and how that can be reduced for a “cleaner” sound. Anyway, THR looks like a superior product when it comes to sound.
@@gianlucacupo533 For MS, you can tweak it easily with IR low-cut function. MS is very tweakable and more complicated for digging. But if you spend some time, the sound can be pretty good.
If you are looking for simple tweaking, THR is much easier without flexibility.
Depends on what you are looking for.
backingtrack sound,,?
Hi. Which one is louder? Can either be used with a quiet drummer in a small room?
That Yamaha it’s so quiet …why?
Dear Monk, just updated the Mighty amp app and my Mighty Air, but miss the Detune Modulation. Is that one replaced?
Nux seems to be more suitable with a bass
看完之後 還是不知道要買哪個😂
When money is not issue Yamaha
I own the THR30ii and it does not sound like that at all. This comparison is biased since the creator is trying to sell the Nux products. False representation.
Well, the review is 100% authentic without editing. As you can see and hear I use an A/B switch, and all the signal is continuous, please tell me how to bias it?
@@Monkcustom There are a lot of ways, lower the settings for volume…etc in the THR app, mic distance… Doesn’t matter what you attempted to do. I’m just stating the fact that THR have not been accurately represented in your video. It is also concerning that you are clearly trying to sell the Nux amp.
@@hangryhulk2131 I mentioned the volume difference is related to a "sweet sounding volume spot", you have THR, and you also know if you turn it loud, it will become harsh. I use the condenser mic AKG C414 to replicate what I heard in the environment instead of the dynamic mic to avoid the mic distance difference. As you can see in the video, the mic is almost the same distance between these 2 amps. All the amp settings were also presented in the video.
I didn't mention which is better in the video, you judged it by yourself.
If people feel THR is their taste, they will buy it. If people like NUX, they will go to it.
So " haters gonna hate", no worry. You can keep what you believe.
@@Monkcustom I own the amp and do not claim to be an expert. You clearly demonstrated that, either you do not know the equipment well enough to be qualified to be making comparison videos, or that you are playing dumb after being called out. I’m not a hater and do believe that Nux makes good products. I stumbled upon your video because I was interested in purchasing the amp. The feedback I’ve provided was based on my experience with the amp, the difference between you and I is that I do not benefit regardless of which amp people decide to purchase. My advice to you is that you should, stick with making videos that only demonstrate the Nux products, and not trying to downplay other products, which people actually own and have a good track record. You can also “keep what you believe”, if you think everyone that speaks the truth are haters. Good luck with your business.
@@hangryhulk2131 So you figure out something, you only have THR, but you don't have MS. So you have no experience with MS, and how dare you say the review is BIASED? So you are the one who is unfair, right? Even if everything I present with a clear description, you still only want to say what you believed. Why do I keep your comment and reply to you? Cause the review is 100% AUTHENTIC, it can be challenged. The A/B test is interesting to lots of end users, the audience can judge what they prefer, I just show the reality, and they will make their own decision.
Every reviewer can do the content by himself, the audience can choose what they want to watch, and no one asks you to come to watch my review, right?
I have both ! Nux better !
Th NuX sounds bigger and fuller, with more bass.
I think what here different options
I have watched many comparisons and from what I can hear and see, NUX just shit all over Yamaha and Spark. Will be selling my spark for this