What do you think will happen to all the European countries that have allowed unbridled immigration? And expected zero assimilation! Where did everyone think this would eventually go?
The government has invited armies of them . The country is unsafe now they are here. We need to start sinking the boats . They never have women or children . Always fighting age men 😡😡
Under rated comment. Magically the government can now just deport people and who would have guessed that. Your daughter's can be raped, the small boat people are untouchable even when they rape your daughter's but don't be anti-semitic because then you will be deported. This whole ordeal has shown me one thing, hard working native British people are treated as second class citizens in their own county.
Its a slip of the mask, showing who they've really been representing all this time. I wonder, in 12 months when we find the Palestinian death toll has risen past a quarter/half a million,that we'd feel quite the same about Bibi Netanyahu's deliberate and now inevitable overreaction wh8 h will be directed indiscriminately irrespective of the presence of civilians in the region. I say this in full knowlehe that the Palestinians are being used by Arab countries in the region who could'be otherwise have all agreed to accommodate the refugees bettween them over the last 80 years but much prefer that they hqve a proxy to create the type of situation we have seen over tge last week. Sadly, all will be made to suffer and those with no power will bec made to suffer the most
Israel, just "don't look back in anger". That's what the UK government encourages (or nudges) the British people to do when we are the targets for atrocities by followers of the prophet. What's good for one is good for another.
It's not good for anyone for Britain to spread our pathetic ideologies to Isreal or anywhere else. I hope Isreal destroys Hamas because we certainly won't
The hallmark of a mature world leading democratic nation is to lead not to follow your enemy into the gutter. But lets be honest here That's not what Israel is. They was already in the gutter and dragged Palestine down to their level.
Perhaps they can hold a candlelit vigil or some such act of wrathful vengeance and self preservation? That is of course assuming the Islamists wont violently attack it...
@@jimbo5973 OR, and I know I'm thinking out of the box here, but they could either stop the genocidal abuse of the natives and learn that they are white unwelcome colonisers on Arab land and act more humanely OR relocate Israel somewhere its actually accepted.
As this last week has shown, being Islamophobic is both wise and necessary when thousands can take to the streets celebrating the deaths of babies that have been beheaded.
Yes, atrocities have been committed, but the beheading of babies is still unconfirmed. It originated verbatim from an Israeli soldier telling an Israeli journalist.
One thing I've noticed over the past week is the jubilation among international Muslim groups. They have much renewed vigour and confidence in their faith, and have been seeking to both strengthen the faith of existing Muslims and to recruit new followers. This since the 7th October. They see Hamas' actions as something which has emboldened the supremacy of Islam in the region against Judaism. It was never just about Palestine vs Israel, it was only ever about Islam's attempts to supplant them eliminate Judaism.
Religion has absolutely nothing to do with it beyond white Europeans and Americans using a book of fairy tales to justify why they can steal Arab land.
You're right, but Israel is making a huge mistake in cutting off food and water to the evacuating Gazans. Isn't there a more humane way to deal with this? By all means, obliterate Hamas, but the way Israel is going about doing this will hurt them. They still have much, if not most, of the world on their side. They can't afford to squander it.
@bobtaylor170 ohh it will end Israel. They will go the way of the Titan sub with a bit of luck. Once the Arab world is made whole again there will finally be peace in the middle easy. And all the ones that have flooded into the UK thanks to Boris' open border policies can go right back home. If they're lucky there will still be settlers houses still standing they cam have. The whole world's a winner then.
@@EE12CSVTYou do realise we've sent weapons to them and parked some navy ships off the coast in support. I agree its crazy we're supporting them instead of pulling them up on their genocide.
Look how fast the Ukrainian flag has been replaced by the Israeli flag. I think what Hamas have done coupled w/ the call for a global jihad is the worst atrocity we've seen for decades (aside from the COVID Response), but the salivation of our Western military industrial-complex over this opportunity is repulsive.
My previously uneducated views of the Palestine and Israel conflict have changed since the barbarism of last Saturday. The fact I held these views in the first place is testament to the power of leftist ideology. Of course nothing is black and white but from what I have learnt/understood Israel has held out a hand to the Palestinians on many occasions only for it to rejected. I wish Israel well in the destruction of this evil ideology.
Ohh dear... they got to you with their lies? Not surprising really with how biased western media have been in favour of the genocidal Israelis that have made their own bed by treating humans like animals then cry victim when the animals they created bite them.
@@moss1066your argument falls down when you consider that there are large numbers of Muslim terrorist organisations killing non believers across the world You can't simply scapegoat Isreal for them all
@@stuarttanner9953 correlating facts rather than this fake bullshit propaganda is hardly a 'world view'. Israel is taking the German's crown for atrocities and simps for the MSM narrative think they are actually victims.
Especially after khomeni butchered the communists that helped him overthrow the shah of persia (iran) to get khomeni in Power. Thats what corbin and his nasty accolites have to look forward too..... muslims already see them as traitors no matter how much they help islam take over. (p.s. communism and islam both want to destroy democracy thats why conbin and other commies side with them)
@@malcmitchell9738 Though of course the far left, radical islam and the National Socialists all hate, and want to overthrow, Western democracy. And I hate to say it, they are well on their way to achieving those ends.
I'd image that had something to do with The naturalized Palestinians enjoyed equal opportunities in all sectors of the state without discrimination, and they were given half of the seats of the Jordanian parliament. weird that they didn't fight those occupiers to the death ..right?
I am really upset that the Canadian media have adopted the belief that "Gaza is an open air prison". They use this over and over in their titles and articles, and of course that justifies the horrors that Hamas have just perpetrated in the eyes of those who are ignorant of the real situation of the area. I used to naïvely believe that my country was not antisemitic.
No, it isn't an open-air prison. That's the wrong comparison. People in prison are there because they have been convicted of a crime. The Gazans are there not because they've been convicted of a crime, but because of who they are. The more appropriate comparison term for Gaza is 'concentration camp.'
Thank you so very much for a sad, but much needed discussion- I am very grateful to you during a time, a few days after the 13th when this was broadcast,when politicians and media reporters (BBC) Ch 4 et al- are already beginning to 'turn against Israel'. Thank you Peter for your earlier brave and sad 'speaking out' in faith and truth and hope.
Thank you for standing with us 🙏🏻 from Israel with love 🇮🇱 the most important cultural battle of our lives! For those saying ‘leave the U.K. out of it’ I have a message for you: if you don’t help us defeat Hamas today, you will be fighting Hamas in your own lands tomorrow.
have you not seen your tele box? most people do not stand with you, theyve digurd out youmlied about ww2 and youre doing it again, they realise youree the reason europe now looks arab and african. weimar condtions will result in weimar republic reactions. get ready boy might actually be real ovens this time
@@foppo100 there is no open concentration camp. Mankind is Gods creation. God warns about other gods, He also warns of satan. When people worship something with the characteristics of satan one would not expect them to be nice.
@@foppo100 wtf are you talking about? palistine has never been an ethno state let alone a concentration camp. read & understand the history of thge area it goes back thousands of years before the so called palistinians turned up there.
Kind of ignorant though to say that. Do you know that when you use math, that is Arabic numbering you are using. Not Roman we stopped using Roman because it is inferior to Arabic numbering. Had we left those alien symbols behind we would still be shitting into buckets in the forest and dying of scurvy. Perhaps the alien of our culture is actually you? I mean since you don't even know your own history enough to avoid saying stupid things like you did. Our culture is directly copied and pasted from one of these so called alien cultures, and the other has contributed enough to have been accepted long before now! People born before the internet was a thing are the people who have a clue these days. All these younger lot seem able to do : Is watch nonsense clips for 40 seconds, then talk for weeks about it! But it's absolute fiction in the main! Two alien cultures lol read a bloody history book. And I mean an ACTUAL history book that is older than your parents are. Not a paperback from Amazon printed last year. And definitely not a goddamn website or a video!! Honestly I am embarrassed to be British at the moment, this country is full of pathetic losers blaming all and sundry and sitting on their cold hands, awaiting rescue from the tooth fairy. You need to grow up.
There's a saying among the Muslims "first comes Saturday, then comes Sunday" . And when the blood feud with the Christians comes to you, please keep it to yourself.
They also gave the Arab people who subsequently identified themselves as "Palestinians" in the 1970s a nation which they refused and instead waited until the nations that attacked the new nation of Israel had bombed it out of existence, but things didn't work out for them. @@Darius-_
These spoilt protesters have never had a cause. This gives them a chance to write themselves into the annals of history Leave a legacy. Wish it were for a morally and politically worthy cause. Hamas OWES Palestinians food, water, lights and protection. Comparing Israel society with SA apartheid is based on ignorance and is ahistorical.
Saw a report on next news showing a pro Palestine protester on an American campus holding a sign saying" if you don't support Palestine, you are anti- Semitic". This is how uneducated these people are. They are just spouting the views they were taught.
The cheering when the twin towers fell on September 11th convinced me that the hatred from that region is something that I would never understand nor underestimate. (A wonderful forum but it would be nicer without the hosting grunting. No offense intended.)
I think we need to focus on ourselves and not spread our focus on other groups. Especially as, when the roles are reversed, these groups will be nowhere to be seen to help us. It's been so disappointing to see so many jump and vigorously support people thousands of miles away, just because (presumably) the Boomer Truth Regime told them to.
Spot on, Palestine and Israel are not part of western culture and seem to be barbaric in their nature. Let them destroy each other. This is a christian country. Christians are the most persecuted religion in the world. Check out whats been happened in India recently. The media remains silent.
If Israelophobia means that to criticise the state of Israel is to be antisemitic then to imagine this belonging only to the far, 'hard' no less, left, is deluded amd an insult to tbe free thinking right, whichever side they fall on.
This is a fantastic interview. thanks for this and keep up the great work. I too am often on TV and am using your material to help explain the problems we are seeing here in the West. Thank you and keep up the great work.
@paulnewman. Let’s not get into witch-hunting. We’ve got enough problems as it is. Why not left-wing bookshops - right-wing bookshops as well ? They are less dangerous than propaganda - which is carefully hidden and dishonest.
For a fantastic Israel/Palestine explainer, I recommend your viewers to find the video titled "Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)". I can promise you a hugely informative 30 mins. I've supported the right of Israel to exist simply based on the 2000 years of oppression, pogroms and genocide, but there so much more justification and validation.
I just finished 'Israelophobia' which taught me a great deal of history I was unaware of, despite feeling relatively informed on the Israel / Palestine conflict. I would urge everyone, whatever their political or ideological persuasion, to read it.
I just dont understand the center right's compulsion to defend jewdeism so hard? If they instead defended european people this well, then maybe we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place
It's another example of why the centre Right fails. It's completely captured. We need to be saving our OWN civilisation not taking sides or getting involved.
There are plenty of intelligent, well-educated, well-informed people who are utterly against antisemitism, and condemn the Hamas Gaza atrocities, but who deprecate the foundation and existence of the state of Israel. Why are the media not addressing this? Can there ever be peace while Israel exists?
Can there ever be peace as long as the Palestinians persist in rejecting a two-state solution? Anti-ZIonism is a thinly-veiled cover of anti-semitism. End of.
After everything we English have suffered from muslim immigrants and been vilified for even complaining about, why should we care about another group's suffering at the same hands? Especially this group.
@paulocallaghan. It isn’t a donation. It’s an investment. The Tories are committed to selling off all the institutions that always belonged to the nation. ‘The People” are no longer in control of them through Parliament. They are traitors.
I Wish ISRAEL All the best In the Future And the Same For The Western World With All This Evil I Am Sickened With What Is Going on and Has Been Going on For Some time God Bless The West 🇬🇧🇮🇱🇺🇸 ♥️🤍💙 .
"What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived." Moshe Dayan There seems to be an obstacle.
The New Culture Forum should have the intellectual courage to talk with Gilad Atzmon or even pair Jake Wallis Simons with him. Then we might get near the truth.
Your belief in lasting peace will kill far more people. It is the naivety and danger posed by thinkers like you. Start by leaving your house unlocked and see how that goes...
Islam does not want peace. The Palestinian leadership have been offered a 2 state solution several times by Israel, yet have turned them down , constantly.
Yes, this is yet another example a clash of civilisations, as explained in Huntington's book. If you don't get that, you can't have a coherent analysis of the situation.
When you all order your takeaways from now on just take a moment to think about who your buying them from, I know its something so little but I dont really get takeaways anymore the majority are owned by people who want to see our demise so why pay them to do it. I no longer ride in taxis as you cant guarantee to get a local driver as again I dont like funding anything that isnt in my interest.
1956 Moshe Dayan Israel Minister of Defence Speech at funeral of soldier "Let us not cast the blame on the murderers today.....For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate." What was already known by a general after a half generation is now intergenerational. How else are monsters formed other than in such soil?
I was searching for that quote and came up with a variation. 'What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived.
TBF from the Great River (Euphrates) to the River of Egypt also appears in Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4 (which replaces the river of Egypt with the Great Sea). So it's not entirely cut out of whole cloth.
Have followed TNCF efforts with mostly admiration for the last year plus, but you have lost the plot on the biggest issue of the day. Go on assignment in Gaza and get a feel for what you are missing here in your wooden position.
The use of proportional deaths is a disgusting abstraction of data, state the facts as facts do not obfuscate them to make them seem better or worse for your own politics.
Isaiah 53 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him and by his wounds we are healed. 6 …the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth;… 8 For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished…. 9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand. 11 After he has suffered, he will see the light of life … my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
Far-right. Can someone please come up with a workable definition for that? Most tend to mean those with totalitarian impulses but how can this possibly be true when right wing is generally taken to mean believers in a low tax,small state.
Far Right in western countries means white Supremacist beliefs and suspicion or hatred of different races or cultures. Viewing them as inferior by definition. Either in their own country or anywhere.
@buggadefino. The perpetuation of avoidable poverty is another form of totalitarianism. Low tax and small state is a refusal to acknowledge proper responsibilities -national defence being one of them. Public safety is another.
Hi Belinda May, thanks for your response, and I get that you don’t agree with my definition of‘Right Wing’ but my question was what is Far-Right? TBH it seems to me that it is everything those who identify as leftists don’t like.
What a great idea importing barbaric foreign ideologies was.
Excuse me, I'm not barbaric.
@@SzTz100 Still eating Missionaries'?
@@SzTz100 Ah, still alive.
About my little quiz...
The result of which is exactly what was intended.
@@Ghost_of_a_Flea low wages and a public too divided to resist?
What do you think will happen to all the European countries that have allowed unbridled immigration? And expected zero assimilation! Where did everyone think this would eventually go?
Rivers of Blood
The government has invited armies of them . The country is unsafe now they are here. We need to start sinking the boats . They never have women or children . Always fighting age men 😡😡
Europe is on its way to become Islamic states.
World jihad!
I don’t want them to “assimilate” in my country, they don’t belong here.
7:25 … Pro Palestinian Protest is illegal in France … And soon Germany …
What is wrong with the appeasing, weak, utterly pathetic UK ?
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We are compromised
Dream on, Palestinian protest will NEVER be illegal.
Could be they are afraid that immigrants or their kids might lop the heads of a few more cops or soldiers
Poland was right ..THEY WOULD NOT LET THEM IN…..THE PEOPLE SAID NO ,HOW VERY WISE THEY WERE.
A million %
Perhaps no10 should project the union jack flag on it to remind the MPs who they are suppose to represent.
Under rated comment. Magically the government can now just deport people and who would have guessed that. Your daughter's can be raped, the small boat people are untouchable even when they rape your daughter's but don't be anti-semitic because then you will be deported. This whole ordeal has shown me one thing, hard working native British people are treated as second class citizens in their own county.
Its a slip of the mask, showing who they've really been representing all this time. I wonder, in 12 months when we find the Palestinian death toll has risen past a quarter/half a million,that we'd feel quite the same about Bibi Netanyahu's deliberate and now inevitable overreaction wh8 h will be directed indiscriminately irrespective of the presence of civilians in the region. I say this in full knowlehe that the Palestinians are being used by Arab countries in the region who could'be otherwise have all agreed to accommodate the refugees bettween them over the last 80 years but much prefer that they hqve a proxy to create the type of situation we have seen over tge last week. Sadly, all will be made to suffer and those with no power will bec made to suffer the most
@@jacksonfrenchii8080sad but true
It would be a hate crime.
Israel, just "don't look back in anger". That's what the UK government encourages (or nudges) the British people to do when we are the targets for atrocities by followers of the prophet.
What's good for one is good for another.
It's not good for anyone for Britain to spread our pathetic ideologies to Isreal or anywhere else. I hope Isreal destroys Hamas because we certainly won't
@@jim-md2md By refusing to acknowledge Hamas as terrorists, they are
The hallmark of a mature world leading democratic nation is to lead not to follow your enemy into the gutter. But lets be honest here That's not what Israel is. They was already in the gutter and dragged Palestine down to their level.
Perhaps they can hold a candlelit vigil or some such act of wrathful vengeance and self preservation? That is of course assuming the Islamists wont violently attack it...
@@jimbo5973 OR, and I know I'm thinking out of the box here, but they could either stop the genocidal abuse of the natives and learn that they are white unwelcome colonisers on Arab land and act more humanely OR relocate Israel somewhere its actually accepted.
As this last week has shown, being Islamophobic is both wise and necessary when thousands can take to the streets celebrating the deaths of babies that have been beheaded.
I completely agree.
I agree 💯 too
Yes, atrocities have been committed, but the beheading of babies is still unconfirmed. It originated verbatim from an Israeli soldier telling an Israeli journalist.
@@jonathanj.7344it has been confirmed. The only thing unconfirmed is the number. The Hamas also burnt children
Atrocity propaganda works …
I am ashamed of what's happening. It's incredibly disheartening.
We destroyed ourselves with WW2.
@@evolassunglasses4673 Agree, we won nothing, lots of dead young men again is all we got.
I disagree, we did that with immigration from Arab and Middle Eastern countries.
IS RA EL * IS * A * TE RR OR IST * STATE
@misc_channel lol 😆 😂 🤣. Yeah of course it is.
One thing I've noticed over the past week is the jubilation among international Muslim groups. They have much renewed vigour and confidence in their faith, and have been seeking to both strengthen the faith of existing Muslims and to recruit new followers. This since the 7th October. They see Hamas' actions as something which has emboldened the supremacy of Islam in the region against Judaism. It was never just about Palestine vs Israel, it was only ever about Islam's attempts to supplant them eliminate Judaism.
Religion has absolutely nothing to do with it beyond white Europeans and Americans using a book of fairy tales to justify why they can steal Arab land.
You're right, but Israel is making a huge mistake in cutting off food and water to the evacuating Gazans. Isn't there a more humane way to deal with this? By all means, obliterate Hamas, but the way Israel is going about doing this will hurt them. They still have much, if not most, of the world on their side. They can't afford to squander it.
@@bobtaylor170 Would we have given aid to Germans in Germany during WW2 if they were close neighbours?
@bobtaylor170 ohh it will end Israel. They will go the way of the Titan sub with a bit of luck. Once the Arab world is made whole again there will finally be peace in the middle easy. And all the ones that have flooded into the UK thanks to Boris' open border policies can go right back home. If they're lucky there will still be settlers houses still standing they cam have. The whole world's a winner then.
@@EE12CSVTYou do realise we've sent weapons to them and parked some navy ships off the coast in support. I agree its crazy we're supporting them instead of pulling them up on their genocide.
Radical Islam is a tautology.
Radical Islam _is not_ a tautology.
Falsification evidence.
What? Do you understand the meaning of "radical"?
@@DieFlabbergast Do you understand the meaning of "tautology"?
Look how fast the Ukrainian flag has been replaced by the Israeli flag. I think what Hamas have done coupled w/ the call for a global jihad is the worst atrocity we've seen for decades (aside from the COVID Response), but the salivation of our Western military industrial-complex over this opportunity is repulsive.
Seems to me it's been replaced by the Palestine flag
@@beecat9951 it’s almost worse that this current thing goes both ways
My previously uneducated views of the Palestine and Israel conflict have changed since the barbarism of last Saturday. The fact I held these views in the first place is testament to the power of leftist ideology. Of course nothing is black and white but from what I have learnt/understood Israel has held out a hand to the Palestinians on many occasions only for it to rejected. I wish Israel well in the destruction of this evil ideology.
Me too. They should have a crowd funder for rope.
What utter piffle. I don't believe your 'conversion' for a minute.
Ohh dear... they got to you with their lies? Not surprising really with how biased western media have been in favour of the genocidal Israelis that have made their own bed by treating humans like animals then cry victim when the animals they created bite them.
@@moss1066your argument falls down when you consider that there are large numbers of Muslim terrorist organisations killing non believers across the world
You can't simply scapegoat Isreal for them all
Propaganda is used to justify killing children. Works every time.
What a mature and informative conversation. Thank you for another great programme.
Since when has utter BS passed as 'informative'?
@moss1066 when you write, making out your mindset/ worldview is correct.
@@stuarttanner9953 correlating facts rather than this fake bullshit propaganda is hardly a 'world view'. Israel is taking the German's crown for atrocities and simps for the MSM narrative think they are actually victims.
Absolutely, Stuart.
Who opened the door to these charming new fellows in the West?
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Labour
Yours is one of the few channels I am able to play on normal speed.
Most people gabble these days
I've never been able to compute how the far left support radical islam, it just doesnt add up.
Especially after khomeni butchered the communists that helped him overthrow the shah of persia (iran) to get khomeni in Power. Thats what corbin and his nasty accolites have to look forward too..... muslims already see them as traitors no matter how much they help islam take over. (p.s. communism and islam both want to destroy democracy thats why conbin and other commies side with them)
A bit like the rainbow lot loving the religion of peace. Crazy
@@turokforever007 the rainbow lot IRL aren’t that interested in Islam.
Voters
@@malcmitchell9738 Though of course the far left, radical islam and the National Socialists all hate, and want to overthrow, Western democracy. And I hate to say it, they are well on their way to achieving those ends.
What a helpful and informative conversation. Thank you so much. Have ordered the book from Audible and am enjoying it. Jake narrates it very well. 😊
Read the Hamas charter, it's all there literally in black and white.
I can't believe how the NeoCon rhetoric has gone full circle back to 2001 and nobody has learnt a thing.
No, I think a lot more people are aware of 'the game' our so-called ally likes to play.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Democrats are the ones in power in the States, not the NeoCons.
Some of us have figured it out
Between Islamophobia and Israelophobia, now we shall see who is the true Master of the UK!
Certainly not the British
It's odd that pre-1967 the "Palestinians" in the so-called "West Bank" never campaigned for freedom from Jordan which occupied it. Why is that?
I'd image that had something to do with The naturalized Palestinians enjoyed equal opportunities in all sectors of the state without discrimination, and they were given half of the seats of the Jordanian parliament.
weird that they didn't fight those occupiers to the death ..right?
still fighting over whos god is best, all foreign religions and ideals should be banished from our shores
Thank you Mr. Whittle...be well. A big hug from Jerusalem...
I know what culture/religion/people I would rather have in England and the other one are welcome to leave our shores.
The English?
@@jim-md2md That goes without saying. It is the others we could do without.
Crying out in pain as they strike you.
A lot of anti-semites here.
@@jamesmorrow1646 If they weren't so anti-Western.
You spelt anti ZIONIST wrong. Stop conflating the two hoping to manipulate peoples views. @@jamesmorrow1646
@@jamesmorrow1646*The term is "J-w Wise", little Noahide.*
@Wicker_ Quoting an anti-semitic Polish proverb is patently anti-semitic.
I am really upset that the Canadian media have adopted the belief that "Gaza is an open air prison". They use this over and over in their titles and articles, and of course that justifies the horrors that Hamas have just perpetrated in the eyes of those who are ignorant of the real situation of the area. I used to naïvely believe that my country was not antisemitic.
No, it isn't an open-air prison. That's the wrong comparison. People in prison are there because they have been convicted of a crime. The Gazans are there not because they've been convicted of a crime, but because of who they are. The more appropriate comparison term for Gaza is 'concentration camp.'
@@iorarua3525 interesting use of words, It shows what side you're on! So now you may go away and troll somebody else please thank you
@@iorarua3525a camp where people were still vacationing and visiting relatives.
Your people are behind mass immigration and have forced it on Europeans
Are you starting to clue in to the fact that Canadian legacy media are propaganda outlets that can’t be salvaged?
Thank you so very much for a sad, but much needed discussion- I am very grateful to you during a time, a few days after the 13th when this was broadcast,when politicians and media reporters (BBC) Ch 4 et al- are already beginning to 'turn against Israel'.
Thank you Peter for your earlier brave and sad 'speaking out' in faith and truth and hope.
Yes started about 4 days ago.
I would prefer to remove Islamophobia from modern discourse rather than create a new silly phobia called "Israelophobia".
@@malcmitchell9738 One definition of hydrophobia is the fear of drowing
@@malcmitchell9738 perfect comparison
@@Gadottinho Surely the meaning of the word ( phobia) is “an irrational or unreasonable fear”.
Thank you for standing with us 🙏🏻 from Israel with love 🇮🇱 the most important cultural battle of our lives! For those saying ‘leave the U.K. out of it’ I have a message for you: if you don’t help us defeat Hamas today, you will be fighting Hamas in your own lands tomorrow.
have you not seen your tele box? most people do not stand with you, theyve digurd out youmlied about ww2 and youre doing it again, they realise youree the reason europe now looks arab and african. weimar condtions will result in weimar republic reactions. get ready boy might actually be real ovens this time
@@foppo100 there is no open concentration camp. Mankind is Gods creation. God warns about other gods, He also warns of satan. When people worship something with the characteristics of satan one would not expect them to be nice.
@foppo100 perhaps Egypt might help.
@@foppo100 wtf are you talking about? palistine has never been an ethno state let alone a concentration camp. read & understand the history of thge area it goes back thousands of years before the so called palistinians turned up there.
We already are thank to the immigrants that have flooded in
Wonderful insights, thank you.
What a disgusting profile picture. Have you heard of the King David Hotel?
Both alien cultures should be given short shrift. Your blood feud should have stayed in the middle east, just as you should've.
Kind of ignorant though to say that. Do you know that when you use math, that is Arabic numbering you are using. Not Roman we stopped using Roman because it is inferior to Arabic numbering. Had we left those alien symbols behind we would still be shitting into buckets in the forest and dying of scurvy.
Perhaps the alien of our culture is actually you? I mean since you don't even know your own history enough to avoid saying stupid things like you did. Our culture is directly copied and pasted from one of these so called alien cultures, and the other has contributed enough to have been accepted long before now!
People born before the internet was a thing are the people who have a clue these days. All these younger lot seem able to do : Is watch nonsense clips for 40 seconds, then talk for weeks about it!
But it's absolute fiction in the main! Two alien cultures lol read a bloody history book. And I mean an ACTUAL history book that is older than your parents are. Not a paperback from Amazon printed last year. And definitely not a goddamn website or a video!!
Honestly I am embarrassed to be British at the moment, this country is full of pathetic losers blaming all and sundry and sitting on their cold hands, awaiting rescue from the tooth fairy. You need to grow up.
There's a saying among the Muslims "first comes Saturday, then comes Sunday" . And when the blood feud with the Christians comes to you, please keep it to yourself.
Didn't Britain start this whole conflict. Just saying.
@@SzTz100 no.
They also gave the Arab people who subsequently identified themselves as "Palestinians" in the 1970s a nation which they refused and instead waited until the nations that attacked the new nation of Israel had bombed it out of existence, but things didn't work out for them. @@Darius-_
These spoilt protesters have never had a cause. This gives them a chance to write themselves into the annals of history
Leave a legacy. Wish it were for a morally and politically worthy cause. Hamas OWES Palestinians food, water, lights and protection. Comparing Israel society with SA apartheid is based on ignorance and is ahistorical.
No it is not Israel is apartheid state
Saw a report on next news showing a pro Palestine protester on an American campus holding a sign saying" if you don't support Palestine, you are anti- Semitic". This is how uneducated these people are. They are just spouting the views they were taught.
The cheering when the twin towers fell on September 11th convinced me that the hatred from that region is something that I would never understand nor underestimate. (A wonderful forum but it would be nicer without the hosting grunting. No offense intended.)
Let me think, should I support terrorist state A or terrorist state B?
C. Ukraine
Looks like you can't really think for yourself.
@@mrror8933 Pot? Kettle?
oh yeah, they're definetly the same
I think we need to focus on ourselves and not spread our focus on other groups. Especially as, when the roles are reversed, these groups will be nowhere to be seen to help us. It's been so disappointing to see so many jump and vigorously support people thousands of miles away, just because (presumably) the Boomer Truth Regime told them to.
Ethnic English people need to organise for their own collective interests.
They already did its called ENGLAND.@@evolassunglasses4673
@@evolassunglasses4673 Is Julian Assange included in that? Apparently not.
What kind of help are you speaking of and do you expect from them?
Spot on, Palestine and Israel are not part of western culture and seem to be barbaric in their nature. Let them destroy each other. This is a christian country. Christians are the most persecuted religion in the world. Check out whats been happened in India recently. The media remains silent.
The protesters I saw waving Palestinian flags were not mainly university people, nor were they English. More might have been said about this.
Thankyou so much i enjoy that interview..
If Israelophobia means that to criticise the state of Israel is to be antisemitic then to imagine this belonging only to the far, 'hard' no less, left, is deluded amd an insult to tbe free thinking right, whichever side they fall on.
Phobias and ism accusations… getting a little too old for this 🤨
Still not donating.
This is a fantastic interview. thanks for this and keep up the great work. I too am often on TV and am using your material to help explain the problems we are seeing here in the West. Thank you and keep up the great work.
A moving conversation; quiet rectitude and civilised reflection. Many thanks Mr Simons and Peter.
I doubt Jake's book would be very prominent in good old Waterstones , a more left wing book shop would be hard to find imho.
@paulnewman. Let’s not get into witch-hunting. We’ve got enough problems as it is. Why not left-wing bookshops - right-wing bookshops as well ? They are less dangerous than propaganda - which is carefully hidden and dishonest.
Birth pangs as Jesus warned, intensifying. This is the 'Time of Jacob's Troubles.' ' Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem. '
You may be correct.
For a fantastic Israel/Palestine explainer, I recommend your viewers to find the video titled "Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective you’ve probably never heard.)".
I can promise you a hugely informative 30 mins. I've supported the right of Israel to exist simply based on the 2000 years of oppression, pogroms and genocide, but there so much more justification and validation.
Very informative, thank you.
When there on our side maybe, but all I hear from them is constant Anglo hatred.
I agree with Douglas Murray, stand with Israel 🇮🇱
@@oganesson-jj4me. You’ll see who’s fight it is in the near future when you have to pray five a day or lose your head.
I'm not defending israel.
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Truth is your not defending anyone 🤪
I just finished 'Israelophobia' which taught me a great deal of history I was unaware of, despite feeling relatively informed on the Israel / Palestine conflict. I would urge everyone, whatever their political or ideological persuasion, to read it.
A calm gentle thoughtful man!
The world feels so much safer now that Trump is out of power 🤔
Propaganda at it's best.
Fascinating conversation. Thank you. We need more of this for balance.
I just dont understand the center right's compulsion to defend jewdeism so hard? If they instead defended european people this well, then maybe we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place
It's another example of why the centre Right fails. It's completely captured. We need to be saving our OWN civilisation not taking sides or getting involved.
jealous? what's it to you? why would you even care?
The centre-Right are the only ones trying to defend European culture and values.
Because js have the money and influence. You dont.
I haven't heard whining. Get your ears examined you have a real problem with your cognitive and sensory abilities. @Wicker_
Being anti israel is a sane and moral thing, not anti semitic
Excellent interview
There are plenty of intelligent, well-educated, well-informed people who are utterly against antisemitism, and condemn the Hamas Gaza atrocities, but who deprecate the foundation and existence of the state of Israel.
Why are the media not addressing this? Can there ever be peace while Israel exists?
Can there ever be peace as long as the Palestinians persist in rejecting a two-state solution? Anti-ZIonism is a thinly-veiled cover of anti-semitism. End of.
You should read the Bible. It is all there from start to end.
Interesting watching Jake on Thursdays BBC QT and seeing him having to face off with a very less than balanced London audience.
Watch it again. He lies about what his tweet said.
After everything we English have suffered from muslim immigrants and been vilified for even complaining about, why should we care about another group's suffering at the same hands? Especially this group.
We shouldn't. And remember they are the biggest advocates of open borders in our countries.
Tell us more...
What do you mean by ESPECIALLY ??
Perhaps, to keep it simple....if it Walks like a duck if it talks like a duck its a anti Semite.
I HAVE seen a film of khazars dancing. it was just like the devils in the film sleeping beauty.
100%support to Israel
Follow the money saudia arabia and other muslim countries donate billions to the higher education system in the uk and usa
@paulocallaghan. It isn’t a donation. It’s an investment. The Tories are committed to selling off all the institutions that always belonged to the nation. ‘The People” are no longer in control of them through Parliament. They are traitors.
To put it simply Palestine does not want Israel to be in the land they believe is theirs and was taken from them and have vowed to take it back.
Fearing being blown up by the religion of peace isnt islamaphobia. A phobia is a irrational fear. Dying isnt.
Excellent talk, thank you both.
I Wish ISRAEL All the best In the Future And the Same For The Western World With All This Evil I Am Sickened With What Is Going on and Has Been Going on For Some time God Bless The West 🇬🇧🇮🇱🇺🇸 ♥️🤍💙 .
"What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived."
Moshe Dayan
There seems to be an obstacle.
The New Culture Forum should have the intellectual courage to talk with Gilad Atzmon or even pair Jake Wallis Simons with him. Then we might get near the truth.
Wonderful discussion!
Thank you for this insight.
Please stop adding to the hatred already out there. Let us work towards lasting peace for both sides and no more wars and killings.
Your belief in lasting peace will kill far more people. It is the naivety and danger posed by thinkers like you. Start by leaving your house unlocked and see how that goes...
Islam does not want peace. The Palestinian leadership have been offered a 2 state solution several times by Israel, yet have turned them down , constantly.
AND YET THE ISRAELI PM SAYING THANK YOU TO BIDEN, HE SHOULD HAVE SAID THANK YOU TO DONALD TRUMP
God bless Israel and all her people.
Yes, this is yet another example a clash of civilisations, as explained in Huntington's book. If you don't get that, you can't have a coherent analysis of the situation.
Wonder if the open borders advocate Steve Valdez Symonds is a relation ?
When you all order your takeaways from now on just take a moment to think about who your buying them from, I know its something so little but I dont really get takeaways anymore the majority are owned by people who want to see our demise so why pay them to do it. I no longer ride in taxis as you cant guarantee to get a local driver as again I dont like funding anything that isnt in my interest.
Same here 👍👏👏👏
Also feel the same especially about taxis.
You can add Car Washes and Turkish Barbers to the list.
"Progressive left" is an obscene oxymoron..
1956
Moshe Dayan
Israel Minister of Defence
Speech at funeral of soldier
"Let us not cast the blame on the murderers today.....For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate."
What was already known by a general after a half generation is now intergenerational. How else are monsters formed other than in such soil?
I was searching for that quote and came up with a variation.
'What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived.
Countries within a country.
I wonder what New culture forum are thinking when they look at this comment section
Which comment bothers you the most?
That's how they probably feel: 🙄🤦♂️
Nice to get a balanced view. NOT.
Wow I just learned here that Nizar Banat was assassinated. That's so sad, no one can speak against these dictatorships countries.
21:09 "Luxury beliefs"! A cogent concept.
spectacular clarity.
TBF from the Great River (Euphrates) to the River of Egypt also appears in Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4 (which replaces the river of Egypt with the Great Sea). So it's not entirely cut out of whole cloth.
That was so interesting
"You're either with us or against us" 😂
Just what we need to bring the world together. Another istophobia label.
Have followed TNCF efforts with mostly admiration for the last year plus, but you have lost the plot on the biggest issue of the day. Go on assignment in Gaza and get a feel for what you are missing here in your wooden position.
The use of proportional deaths is a disgusting abstraction of data, state the facts as facts do not obfuscate them to make them seem better or worse for your own politics.
💯 true
Ive not been to the place i was born for 25yrs cos we not aloud down them streets😢😮😢
ok, & what's your favorite color
Isaiah 53
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him and by his wounds we are healed.
6 …the Lord has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;…
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For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished….
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life … my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
All about your Lord and Saviour. A prophesy about Christ.
Can I share this video on social media
Peter's grandfather invented the jet engine.
Honestly, Sat yoga institute gives beautiful spiritual guidance on how to get through these traumatic times. 😢
Using the demonic for spiritual guidance.. take a hike
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Far-right. Can someone please come up with a workable definition for that?
Most tend to mean those with totalitarian impulses but how can this possibly be true when right wing is generally taken to mean believers in a low tax,small state.
Far Right in western countries means white Supremacist beliefs and suspicion or hatred of different races or cultures. Viewing them as inferior by definition. Either in their own country or anywhere.
In the mainstream media “Far-Right” mostly means White people who don’t hate themselves
@buggadefino. The perpetuation of avoidable poverty is another form of totalitarianism. Low tax and small state is a refusal to acknowledge proper responsibilities -national defence being one of them. Public safety is another.
Hi Belinda May, thanks for your response, and I get that you don’t agree with my definition of‘Right Wing’ but my question was what is Far-Right?
TBH it seems to me that it is everything those who identify as leftists don’t like.
*MASK OFF*
My city center looks like its been bombed😏😏🤦🙏