Great video! I started 18th of June 2024, so roughly the same time as you. VERY DIFFERENT BUILD THO. My lifetime coins is only 344 B, which is what you make in about 2 farming runs, if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, my tournament performance is the same - been juggling back and forth with Platinum and Champion. How? I have invested probably 2k+ stones on Chain Lightning, and it carries my tournament Also a good amount of damage related labs. I do not have DW or BH. So basically my build is very anti-economy. Lab Speed is at lvl 65 for comparison. I also have all labs running at 2x speed. I farm usually Tier 6, where I can get to wave 7000 if I get DW from random ult perk. Blender farming obviously. Oh, and I am a Range lover - my range is currently at 176 meters :) This drastically improves my tournament performance currently. And waiting to be lucky enough to pull a Dim Core module, which I expect that will keep me permanently in Champion. And I know all of this is very sub-optimal from what the community considers to be smart in the current meta, but I'm having fun and inventing my own path. The only tip I would have for you is to try farming lower tiers to higher waves for better Cells. Once you get to 4-5k waves, Elite spawns go up significantly, which will drastically increase your cell income. And not sure what the wave is - maybe between 6-8k, where you have a chance to get double Elite spawns, which will once again increase Cell income.
It is honestly nice to know that all paths eventually converge. While I'm investing in damage as heavily as you have, I'm sure our progress will start to match up again as you move more into some econ. Unfortunately UW luck drives this game very heavily, which explains why i've leaned so much into the econ path. I've jumped down from T9 to T7 to see what impact is has on my cells. Thanks for the comment!
Dude I like your videos. I dont know what you do to get so much interaction on your videos but keep it up! 1. Have you tried max range? I have seen in discord people say they have better results with it than min range. 2. Why is your package chance so low? 38%. Did you forget to equip the card? I have 51% and my cards are worse than yours. 3. Is Spotlight strictly a coin booster? I dont know if the damage multiplier matters for thorns You are a bit ahead of me, but I enjoy your perspective as in some ways we are close (cell research) but miles apart (income). Looking forward to the next one. Happy New Year.
Hello, nice tower so far. to answer some of your questions: I'm pretty sure your lifesteal is what keeps you alive for so long. For your golden bot it's pretty simple and worth to take a look at. Usually you want to keep Golden Bot cd half of your GT. Your GT is on 200 seconds right now so your GB should be at 100 sec so it's synched with your UW's. Definetly a nice coin multiplier to get synched For BH you want to get the cd low so you can have a permanent BH later. It's also a cheaper way to lower your cd's for MVN later And for your wall. Investing in it is definetly worth it and you are not too far off. when you go into the trillions you could already start and you will see an improvement really quick. But you are right, you should focus on some other labs first good luck with your tower!
I think my plan is to pull my cooldowns to a good point then start the coinbot sync. I think i'll save medals in the long run that way. I'll need to do some math on it though. I'd like to max out a couple of other UW labs, then i'll start wall & hopefully get a big boost with having free lab slots. Thanks for the comments!
@@Austinek The thing is, the more you lower your cooldowns, the harder it gets to synch the gold bot. I think it's easy to synch your Golden bot now and you get alot from it. You would get a 3-5x multiplier on your devo combo, which should at least double your current coin gain
Great video! I am also running devo! But I am much earlier on than you! I started making videos documenting my progress as well. I subscribed to you, keep up the content man!
So glad I found you we have the same tower start date lol, interesting to compare progress i recently started working on wall helped me push waves and coins your earning enough to start this would be my advice
@@Austinekyeah I'm in a similar start date as you and my economy is a little worse but our labs and such seem fairly similar. Waiting until I have a few more labs done and daily econ maybe in the low trillions before I start pushing wall labs.
I was playing Devo as well and the cells was the reason why I was going back to blender. I personally value cells over coins, the labs are way more powerful overtime than the coins, sure they are not unnecessary but for me I think it's more value getting those cells. Im hitting T8 to ~W4500-5000 and get like ~45k cells/day so every 2. Day I got 2 labs at 3x speed
I think my plan for the forseeable future is to drop a couple of tiers to increase my cell count. I'll still run Devo, but I'll be blendering at the end of every run. I'll let you know how it goes!
I'm going to "make a CaedenV", to answer some of the questions you ask in the video, as well as suggest some minor tweaks/ideas that could potential improve your gameplay. QUESTIONS: 1. What's keeping you alive? - Lifesteal is the answer. However, do not underestimate the importance of regen, with a 200% mythic regen stat, and some more improvement in enhancement/lab and perks (you only had 2-3/5 when u die) it would make it such that regen plays a much bigger role. + You will probably go WALL soon, so it's nice with regen prepped for that. 2. The question about the importantance of package chance. - Most importantly (besides combination with GC) is that it heals even when drained by Vamps, which makes packages at the right times very valuable. More chance = More consistent counter to Vamps ruining a run (which is most likely the case for you all the time; Vamp draining and all the enemies smashing you to death in a short time. 3. Are you behind in labs? - No, you are not behind. If anything, you have made a very good general choice of all labs and have adjusted accordingly for your progress. You might be relatively behind to someone maxing more waves with Blender/eHP default builds over the same period, but you can change your gameplay to accommodate. 4. Why have BH at half GT's CD? - Reason 1: Maximizing UW uptime with MVN. - Reason 2: Getting perm BH for CC. 5. Increasing GT duration when it is already +14sec to BH? - The data suggestion to increase GT in your situation just doesn't make any sense and is wrong, although as soon as GT is +12 secs from BH, increasing both +1 does give great benefit. Just to emphasize why; Increasing GT for 1 second without any other multiplier active only has one real use which is more cash for 1 second more, but since you max stuff easily this is irrelevant. SUGGESTIONS: 6. Farm on T7/T8. It is a compromise to lower the tier for more cells and in your position it seems as the right choice, since you can afford all you want and have an extremely well developed WS with enhancements. You are also at the point where unlocking wall is the next step, but looking at your income, you should be able to sustain the costs at T7/T8 and quickly be able to go back to T9. 7. Autopicking perks changes. - Move DW and Gamespeed (GS) up above coins, also in general terms if you pick these at the same order in a day-run. The reason is that both are better econ perks than coins and GS is actually the 2nd best coin perk next after CTO (it only becomes worse than GT/BH when your cooldowns get lower). In general terms it's also better to make the pool of perks smaller, such that you can get the perks you really want. An example could be taking SM perk before a defensive perk, such that there is a higher chance of seeing a better perk than SM, and most likely the defensive perk wont affect the runs length (this is more true for daily runs, and runs that dont end at/before wave 3000, which together with the cell-argument is another reason to move to 4-5k wave runs on lower tier). Final note: Do not research more auto picks as a solution, that should be low prio for you, if at all. 8. Buying songs in event shop. - Noticed you still only had 1/3 songs in the latest video (didn't see the event shop this video), so if you haven't gotten those yet, take them with excess coins before any new bot upgrade. The songs give way more coins than the bot at this stage in the game. The medal to coin ratio is equal to the themes, and themes are the nr. 1 thing advised to buy not only because they are exclusive, but due to the coin increase. 9. Tournament playstyle suggestion to test. - Since you have 2 free shots at tournaments, try to do one Blender/eHP style, aka Maxing everything, and see if it is better. TODO: Make a card preset for the run (mostly same as for a Devo build with 14 slots). Upgrade in the following order: Max all freeups -> EALS until around wave 50-100 -> Upgrade EVERYTHING equally to different $ points (fx. 10k), so that you use the cash most efficiently, once the prices are starting to get high, go ham on Health -> Regen -> Stuff that can easily be maxed -> Dmg 10. Consideration of DW quantity increase. - In tournaments the health increase from DW comes almost purely from the effect waves, not the damage waves. Increasing the quantity can help a bit with progress in that regard. The other reason would be to gain more doritos from elites in farm runs which you lack and having more enemies get the DW coin bonus. I'm very unsure if it's more beneficial to decrease the 3UW CD's sync or taking a +1 quant (at the current costs), so that I cannot help with, but these are the reasons to consider. 11. Swap some cards (most likely ignore this). - You didn't mention if the preset cards we saw had to do with missions or if it is the default set, so this might be irrelevant: Swap Energy Net and Energy Shield for Second Wind and maybe Land Mine Stun (if you are activating land mines late game, this helps with CC so you don't die as easily from both consistent enemy attacks and Vamps, the stun can affect coins negatively since enemies can be stunned in orb orbit, so I use it when transitioning into Blender to squeeze out more waves for doritos). Consider swapping Fortress for Intro Sprint (or maybe even Package chance). I do not believe Fortress makes a difference to what wave you die on, and package chance has a chance of doing that, but Intro Sprint could be used to get more stuff per hour over a full run. Fuck me, why did I do this? Guess I was bored and ye... Thanks for the videos, you also helped me quite a bit.
1. My lifesteal in end of round stats seems pretty insignificant compared to my damage taken, so I feel like it may have really been regen keeping me alive. Either way I've started a few health regen labs to see if it pushes me a bit further. 2. This is a good point. I'll throw some of these labs in from time to time. 3. Great news! I think i'll drop down a few tiers still to see how many more cells per hour I'll get. 4. I'll probably leave mine 1:1 synced for now, until I am reasonable close to pbh, or get lucky and pull a bunch more MVN to have my overall sync lower. 5. Good to know. I'll keep GT and BH the same (with perk) 6. I'll do a handful of lower runs for testing this week. 2 or 3 labs at 3x would be amazing right now. 7. No plans on ay more perk labs for the time being. I'll make this autopick adjustment, but after the holidays I'll be turning off autopick and will be manually selecting again. I'll make this adjustment though, the logic makes sense. 8. I'll get these songs asap! I like to keep around 900 medals to move into the next event so that I can quickly grab the new relics, etc. But once I have enough I'll grab them. 9. I'll try it out, I do have a tournament card set. I'll go through each of my card presets in my next video. 10. My current plan is to push my CDs to 3:00, then I'll grab another DW quantity, SL quantity, then work into my SM upgrades for SMax devo. I'm thinking this is where I'll grab wall as well, and I'm thinking I'll make some big gains at this time. 11. I tend to have 2 flex slots in my card setup for event & daily missions. I like these ideas a lot, I'm planning to go a bit deeper into cards in my next video. The comment is much appreciated! This game is definitely improved with discussions from other players. If you're not in the discord I'd highly recommend checking it out.
Great video! I just recently switched from blender to Devo. I’m curious to hear your thoughts on tower range and what would be optimal. I have played around between maxed range, 40m and 30m and can’t seem to tell that big of a difference. Also, maybe a potential video idea would be showing how to use the labs optimizer you mentioned in this video. Anyways, good content, I subbed!
I have left my workshop range at 30m, but I've recently seen that 38m is ideal for coin bot coverage. Not entirely sure how the math on this works, because I also don't see a huge difference in coin income. My coin bot is not synced, which probably explains it. Thanks for the sub!
Yeah it seems like getting the module that lets you regen package health would be a pretty big boost for you. I agree with you that lifesteal isn't giving you any meaningful regen, given your low attack speed and none of the attack proc upgrades. 173b/sec is roughly 17% of your max health per second. Enemies are hitting you for a bit over 10 billion when you ended the run, or about 1% of your max health. I'm not sure how many melee enemies can hit you at once, but I'm pretty sure its less than 17, which would explain why your regen was generally sufficient to keep you up. My guess is that you would drop when too many ranged enemies were in range at once, or when a Vamp showed up and disabled your regen. That's just my 2 cents and I've only been playing about a month so take it as you will.
My lifesteal amount in the end of round stats was very low, so I think you're right. I'm going to be doing a few quick regen labs to see how much it impacts my wave counts.
Good update. Your devo is definitely hungry for a WHR. Sucks rng can be a pain. Seems like kaiden is running partial sync due to spawn rates of tanks. As waves progress and thier spawn rates increase if your sync time is too high you loose tanks to thorns. If I were you I'd bring my cd inline with smart missles and pump them up so the nuke everything. Raise durations to 40sec mark (28 for bh)
@Austinek I stopped a while ago labbing ehp paths. This is because I know I'm a long way off but eventually it all becomes about damage and the time I spend in the labs is time lost later down the track. They question could thought of like this, what will benefit me more in tournaments, 40days lab ehp or 40days into damage? So I pump up my health and regen in enhancements because I can refund to get the coins when i go a different path. I stopped doing cards once my line up hit 5 star and only pull them during events. I gamba for modules. This has got me gcomp, dimecore,mvn and whr. I wouldn't advise the path that I've taken because I don't play to min max like alot of others I just take into consideration others advice and try mold it into my playstyle.
There is a life steal in information tab, which you can use the roughly how much health regen for one round, i assume that for 1 round, then divide it to 26 to roughly value the life steal in term of health/second
@@Austinekfor my case the LS is very high, my max hp is about 1T when maximum (which all bonus and tradeoff) and LS is around 5-6q. I have atk lv46, atk card and berser equip, and remember not pick the -90% LS tradeoff
I’ll be starting some damage labs fairly soon to prepare for using SM in my devo. I’m curious how my lifesteal from that will impact my runs. We will see!
@ for me it was the wall to be fair, it takes time and trillions but it moved me from T6-7 farm. also it made in my eyes my WHR (hot take is that starts to get good around leg/mythic) less needed since it prolonged runs somehow but it wasn't a pillar for progress. during my transition i spent alot on ehp - health , regen, def%, dw health, damage (for getting all out of the dw HP buff as soon as possible). also spent tons on enhancements with regen / health.
It was leftover from the event mission/daily missions. I tend to forget to change them up, but I have a core 11 or so cards that I dont change. I'll talk more about cards next video I think
I was blender for the first few months and had attack speed in lab slot 2 perma’d. Since starting devo I haven’t touched it. I know later in the game it will become relevant again though.
Great video! I started 18th of June 2024, so roughly the same time as you. VERY DIFFERENT BUILD THO. My lifetime coins is only 344 B, which is what you make in about 2 farming runs, if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, my tournament performance is the same - been juggling back and forth with Platinum and Champion. How? I have invested probably 2k+ stones on Chain Lightning, and it carries my tournament Also a good amount of damage related labs. I do not have DW or BH. So basically my build is very anti-economy. Lab Speed is at lvl 65 for comparison. I also have all labs running at 2x speed. I farm usually Tier 6, where I can get to wave 7000 if I get DW from random ult perk. Blender farming obviously. Oh, and I am a Range lover - my range is currently at 176 meters :) This drastically improves my tournament performance currently. And waiting to be lucky enough to pull a Dim Core module, which I expect that will keep me permanently in Champion.
And I know all of this is very sub-optimal from what the community considers to be smart in the current meta, but I'm having fun and inventing my own path.
The only tip I would have for you is to try farming lower tiers to higher waves for better Cells. Once you get to 4-5k waves, Elite spawns go up significantly, which will drastically increase your cell income. And not sure what the wave is - maybe between 6-8k, where you have a chance to get double Elite spawns, which will once again increase Cell income.
It is honestly nice to know that all paths eventually converge. While I'm investing in damage as heavily as you have, I'm sure our progress will start to match up again as you move more into some econ. Unfortunately UW luck drives this game very heavily, which explains why i've leaned so much into the econ path. I've jumped down from T9 to T7 to see what impact is has on my cells. Thanks for the comment!
Dude I like your videos. I dont know what you do to get so much interaction on your videos but keep it up!
1. Have you tried max range? I have seen in discord people say they have better results with it than min range.
2. Why is your package chance so low? 38%. Did you forget to equip the card? I have 51% and my cards are worse than yours.
3. Is Spotlight strictly a coin booster? I dont know if the damage multiplier matters for thorns
You are a bit ahead of me, but I enjoy your perspective as in some ways we are close (cell research) but miles apart (income).
Looking forward to the next one. Happy New Year.
Hello, nice tower so far. to answer some of your questions:
I'm pretty sure your lifesteal is what keeps you alive for so long.
For your golden bot it's pretty simple and worth to take a look at. Usually you want to keep Golden Bot cd half of your GT. Your GT is on 200 seconds right now so your GB should be at 100 sec so it's synched with your UW's. Definetly a nice coin multiplier to get synched
For BH you want to get the cd low so you can have a permanent BH later. It's also a cheaper way to lower your cd's for MVN later
And for your wall. Investing in it is definetly worth it and you are not too far off. when you go into the trillions you could already start and you will see an improvement really quick. But you are right, you should focus on some other labs first
good luck with your tower!
I think my plan is to pull my cooldowns to a good point then start the coinbot sync. I think i'll save medals in the long run that way. I'll need to do some math on it though. I'd like to max out a couple of other UW labs, then i'll start wall & hopefully get a big boost with having free lab slots. Thanks for the comments!
@@Austinek The thing is, the more you lower your cooldowns, the harder it gets to synch the gold bot. I think it's easy to synch your Golden bot now and you get alot from it. You would get a 3-5x multiplier on your devo combo, which should at least double your current coin gain
Great video! I am also running devo! But I am much earlier on than you! I started making videos documenting my progress as well. I subscribed to you, keep up the content man!
I'll check them out, thanks for the comment!
So glad I found you we have the same tower start date lol, interesting to compare progress i recently started working on wall helped me push waves and coins your earning enough to start this would be my advice
I'm not too far from wall, I'd like to finish up some labs to free up slots.
@@Austinekyeah I'm in a similar start date as you and my economy is a little worse but our labs and such seem fairly similar. Waiting until I have a few more labs done and daily econ maybe in the low trillions before I start pushing wall labs.
My plan is to push my cooldowns further and finish some UW labs before I start wall
I was playing Devo as well and the cells was the reason why I was going back to blender.
I personally value cells over coins, the labs are way more powerful overtime than the coins, sure they are not unnecessary but for me I think it's more value getting those cells.
Im hitting T8 to ~W4500-5000 and get like ~45k cells/day so every 2. Day I got 2 labs at 3x speed
I think my plan for the forseeable future is to drop a couple of tiers to increase my cell count. I'll still run Devo, but I'll be blendering at the end of every run. I'll let you know how it goes!
I'm going to "make a CaedenV", to answer some of the questions you ask in the video, as well as suggest some minor tweaks/ideas that could potential improve your gameplay.
QUESTIONS:
1. What's keeping you alive?
- Lifesteal is the answer. However, do not underestimate the importance of regen, with a 200% mythic regen stat, and some more improvement in enhancement/lab and perks (you only had 2-3/5 when u die) it would make it such that regen plays a much bigger role. + You will probably go WALL soon, so it's nice with regen prepped for that.
2. The question about the importantance of package chance.
- Most importantly (besides combination with GC) is that it heals even when drained by Vamps, which makes packages at the right times very valuable. More chance = More consistent counter to Vamps ruining a run (which is most likely the case for you all the time; Vamp draining and all the enemies smashing you to death in a short time.
3. Are you behind in labs?
- No, you are not behind. If anything, you have made a very good general choice of all labs and have adjusted accordingly for your progress. You might be relatively behind to someone maxing more waves with Blender/eHP default builds over the same period, but you can change your gameplay to accommodate.
4. Why have BH at half GT's CD?
- Reason 1: Maximizing UW uptime with MVN.
- Reason 2: Getting perm BH for CC.
5. Increasing GT duration when it is already +14sec to BH?
- The data suggestion to increase GT in your situation just doesn't make any sense and is wrong, although as soon as GT is +12 secs from BH, increasing both +1 does give great benefit. Just to emphasize why; Increasing GT for 1 second without any other multiplier active only has one real use which is more cash for 1 second more, but since you max stuff easily this is irrelevant.
SUGGESTIONS:
6. Farm on T7/T8.
It is a compromise to lower the tier for more cells and in your position it seems as the right choice, since you can afford all you want and have an extremely well developed WS with enhancements. You are also at the point where unlocking wall is the next step, but looking at your income, you should be able to sustain the costs at T7/T8 and quickly be able to go back to T9.
7. Autopicking perks changes.
- Move DW and Gamespeed (GS) up above coins, also in general terms if you pick these at the same order in a day-run. The reason is that both are better econ perks than coins and GS is actually the 2nd best coin perk next after CTO (it only becomes worse than GT/BH when your cooldowns get lower). In general terms it's also better to make the pool of perks smaller, such that you can get the perks you really want. An example could be taking SM perk before a defensive perk, such that there is a higher chance of seeing a better perk than SM, and most likely the defensive perk wont affect the runs length (this is more true for daily runs, and runs that dont end at/before wave 3000, which together with the cell-argument is another reason to move to 4-5k wave runs on lower tier). Final note: Do not research more auto picks as a solution, that should be low prio for you, if at all.
8. Buying songs in event shop.
- Noticed you still only had 1/3 songs in the latest video (didn't see the event shop this video), so if you haven't gotten those yet, take them with excess coins before any new bot upgrade. The songs give way more coins than the bot at this stage in the game. The medal to coin ratio is equal to the themes, and themes are the nr. 1 thing advised to buy not only because they are exclusive, but due to the coin increase.
9. Tournament playstyle suggestion to test.
- Since you have 2 free shots at tournaments, try to do one Blender/eHP style, aka Maxing everything, and see if it is better.
TODO: Make a card preset for the run (mostly same as for a Devo build with 14 slots).
Upgrade in the following order: Max all freeups -> EALS until around wave 50-100 -> Upgrade EVERYTHING equally to different $ points (fx. 10k), so that you use the cash most efficiently, once the prices are starting to get high, go ham on Health -> Regen -> Stuff that can easily be maxed -> Dmg
10. Consideration of DW quantity increase.
- In tournaments the health increase from DW comes almost purely from the effect waves, not the damage waves. Increasing the quantity can help a bit with progress in that regard. The other reason would be to gain more doritos from elites in farm runs which you lack and having more enemies get the DW coin bonus. I'm very unsure if it's more beneficial to decrease the 3UW CD's sync or taking a +1 quant (at the current costs), so that I cannot help with, but these are the reasons to consider.
11. Swap some cards (most likely ignore this).
- You didn't mention if the preset cards we saw had to do with missions or if it is the default set, so this might be irrelevant:
Swap Energy Net and Energy Shield for Second Wind and maybe Land Mine Stun (if you are activating land mines late game, this helps with CC so you don't die as easily from both consistent enemy attacks and Vamps, the stun can affect coins negatively since enemies can be stunned in orb orbit, so I use it when transitioning into Blender to squeeze out more waves for doritos).
Consider swapping Fortress for Intro Sprint (or maybe even Package chance). I do not believe Fortress makes a difference to what wave you die on, and package chance has a chance of doing that, but Intro Sprint could be used to get more stuff per hour over a full run.
Fuck me, why did I do this? Guess I was bored and ye... Thanks for the videos, you also helped me quite a bit.
1. My lifesteal in end of round stats seems pretty insignificant compared to my damage taken, so I feel like it may have really been regen keeping me alive. Either way I've started a few health regen labs to see if it pushes me a bit further.
2. This is a good point. I'll throw some of these labs in from time to time.
3. Great news! I think i'll drop down a few tiers still to see how many more cells per hour I'll get.
4. I'll probably leave mine 1:1 synced for now, until I am reasonable close to pbh, or get lucky and pull a bunch more MVN to have my overall sync lower.
5. Good to know. I'll keep GT and BH the same (with perk)
6. I'll do a handful of lower runs for testing this week. 2 or 3 labs at 3x would be amazing right now.
7. No plans on ay more perk labs for the time being. I'll make this autopick adjustment, but after the holidays I'll be turning off autopick and will be manually selecting again. I'll make this adjustment though, the logic makes sense.
8. I'll get these songs asap! I like to keep around 900 medals to move into the next event so that I can quickly grab the new relics, etc. But once I have enough I'll grab them.
9. I'll try it out, I do have a tournament card set. I'll go through each of my card presets in my next video.
10. My current plan is to push my CDs to 3:00, then I'll grab another DW quantity, SL quantity, then work into my SM upgrades for SMax devo. I'm thinking this is where I'll grab wall as well, and I'm thinking I'll make some big gains at this time.
11. I tend to have 2 flex slots in my card setup for event & daily missions. I like these ideas a lot, I'm planning to go a bit deeper into cards in my next video.
The comment is much appreciated! This game is definitely improved with discussions from other players. If you're not in the discord I'd highly recommend checking it out.
Sir bravo for that reply ❤️
Great video! I just recently switched from blender to Devo. I’m curious to hear your thoughts on tower range and what would be optimal. I have played around between maxed range, 40m and 30m and can’t seem to tell that big of a difference. Also, maybe a potential video idea would be showing how to use the labs optimizer you mentioned in this video. Anyways, good content, I subbed!
I have left my workshop range at 30m, but I've recently seen that 38m is ideal for coin bot coverage. Not entirely sure how the math on this works, because I also don't see a huge difference in coin income. My coin bot is not synced, which probably explains it. Thanks for the sub!
Yeah it seems like getting the module that lets you regen package health would be a pretty big boost for you. I agree with you that lifesteal isn't giving you any meaningful regen, given your low attack speed and none of the attack proc upgrades.
173b/sec is roughly 17% of your max health per second. Enemies are hitting you for a bit over 10 billion when you ended the run, or about 1% of your max health. I'm not sure how many melee enemies can hit you at once, but I'm pretty sure its less than 17, which would explain why your regen was generally sufficient to keep you up. My guess is that you would drop when too many ranged enemies were in range at once, or when a Vamp showed up and disabled your regen. That's just my 2 cents and I've only been playing about a month so take it as you will.
My lifesteal amount in the end of round stats was very low, so I think you're right. I'm going to be doing a few quick regen labs to see how much it impacts my wave counts.
Good update. Your devo is definitely hungry for a WHR. Sucks rng can be a pain. Seems like kaiden is running partial sync due to spawn rates of tanks. As waves progress and thier spawn rates increase if your sync time is too high you loose tanks to thorns. If I were you I'd bring my cd inline with smart missles and pump them up so the nuke everything. Raise durations to 40sec mark (28 for bh)
Very good insight, thanks! I’ll save up to bring cooldowns down to match SM asap.
@Austinek our towers are basically at the same spot and we started a month or two apart. It's cool seeing the direction your taking
@@AllClouded any decisions you’ve made that differ significantly from me?
@Austinek I stopped a while ago labbing ehp paths. This is because I know I'm a long way off but eventually it all becomes about damage and the time I spend in the labs is time lost later down the track. They question could thought of like this, what will benefit me more in tournaments, 40days lab ehp or 40days into damage? So I pump up my health and regen in enhancements because I can refund to get the coins when i go a different path. I stopped doing cards once my line up hit 5 star and only pull them during events. I gamba for modules. This has got me gcomp, dimecore,mvn and whr. I wouldn't advise the path that I've taken because I don't play to min max like alot of others I just take into consideration others advice and try mold it into my playstyle.
There is a life steal in information tab, which you can use the roughly how much health regen for one round, i assume that for 1 round, then divide it to 26 to roughly value the life steal in term of health/second
I looked at my lifesteal amount in the end of round stats and it seems like it is having little to no impact on my regen.
@@Austinekfor my case the LS is very high, my max hp is about 1T when maximum (which all bonus and tradeoff) and LS is around 5-6q. I have atk lv46, atk card and berser equip, and remember not pick the -90% LS tradeoff
Currently I run t8w4k. I also note there is some difference when I max the thorn or just keep it at 50%
I’ll be starting some damage labs fairly soon to prepare for using SM in my devo. I’m curious how my lifesteal from that will impact my runs. We will see!
on my T9 runs i get 50% cells before wave 5000 and from 5000 to 7000 i get the last 50%.
often get around 45k cells for 7200 waves.
This jives with what I’ve seen on the discord. Any suggestions on pushing up wave count to that 5000-7000 range in T9?
@ for me it was the wall to be fair, it takes time and trillions but it moved me from T6-7 farm.
also it made in my eyes my WHR (hot take is that starts to get good around leg/mythic) less needed since it prolonged runs somehow but it wasn't a pillar for progress.
during my transition i spent alot on ehp - health , regen, def%, dw health, damage (for getting all out of the dw HP buff as soon as possible).
also spent tons on enhancements with regen / health.
Unless you're doing ES event mission, it makes no sense to have ES card equipped since you're surviving entirely on health
It was leftover from the event mission/daily missions. I tend to forget to change them up, but I have a core 11 or so cards that I dont change. I'll talk more about cards next video I think
I would suggest swapping your death wave coin bonus for golden tower coin bonus you will get a lot more coins out of it
I've gone ahead and swapped it for spotlight coin bonus. I'm close to finishing it so I'll do that then slot in GT coin bonus. Thanks!
Why attack speed lab so high for devo?
I was blender for the first few months and had attack speed in lab slot 2 perma’d. Since starting devo I haven’t touched it. I know later in the game it will become relevant again though.
nice video
Thanks!
To run this do I need to have death wave?
You only need GT and DW to run devo. They will need to be synced to the same cooldown either in the workshop or using a MVN unique module.
I have infinite black holes with the perk so sadly devo is out the window for me. Love your videos though!
I've heard things change A LOT when you get permanent BH. No clue what the focus shifts to, but good luck and thanks for the comment!