Congratulations on your beautiful Plymouth Touring Car. We had Model A's. Thanks for sharing all the improvements and differences between the two. I didn't know all that! Happy Motoring!
Great video,currently collecting parts for my 29 Plymouth 4 door sedan. Although I’ve had mine for almost 10 years I never even realized that it was only their second year of production until I ran across the thumbnail for this video. Keep up the great work. 👍
So happy you restored an early Plymouth as they are often overlooked in favor of the Model A. In America, sales of the Plymouth increased every consecutive year from 1930 to 1937. Ford's marketing strategy at that time was to sell at the lowest price but Plymouth's strategy at the same time was to offer the best engineered car in the low-priced field. But I still like Fords of that era as well as all other makes.
I think there is more restored model A's as there was 10x the number of Ford model A's originally. There were about 500,000 Model A's made compared to only 50,000 Plymouth’s in 1928. The Plymouth had many more features than the Ford A.
@@bencarroll1117 Yes, almost 5 million Model A were produced. Many were scrapped due to old age and because of WWII but enough survived into the 1950s when they became collectible. Plymouth started slowly in sales but gained rapidly during the 1930s...sales were much closer to both Ford and Chevrolet by the late 1930s. Henry Ford told Walter Chrysler in 1927 that the Plymouth would fail. My grandfather bought a new 1935 Plymouth to replace his used 1925 Dodge.
this Plymouth has an Australian built body & not exactly the same as the Nth American one ;hence the ' camper front folding down seat. Nearly all cars sold in Australia after WW. 1 had to have local built items, body work being the main feature. The quality was very good, same as US & Europe but the styling could differ & was a bit plainer.
They named it Plymouth after the pilgrims colony but they decided on Plymouth because farmers used Plymouth bailing wire/twine on hay bales because every farmer in the country used it.
What is the matter with the letter R ? It's a good letter, never hurt anyone. It's a beautiful letter too. Not like other plain letters such as I and v. Please. Why do some people refuse to acknowledge it, like this guy. Ca? Really, can't pronounce the R ? Even my name begins with an R. How you going to pronounce it , owe?
When did Ford offer hydraulic brakes? Were all the model A's mechanical brakes? were mechanical brakes reliable? The first time I looked at them, I couldn't believe it, it seems way too outdated, to bet your life on it - - even at 45 miles an hour, pre-empting someone's comment that the cars didn't go that fast, I believe model A's went 60. I guess mechanical brakes were much cheaper to produce, was the thing.
Ford used mechanical brakes rods and clevis’s right up to 1938. The first Ford with internal hydraulic brakes was the 1939 models when Edsel Ford took over the factory. Henry Ford did not believe in them. Mechanical brakes worked OK as long as the adjustments were kept made. There were a lot of clevis pins that wore out due to the dirt getting into them. The 3 1928 cars in the low priced market [Ford, Chevrolet & Plymouth] all had different top speeds. The Chev 4 was good for about 50 MPH, The Ford A was good for 55 MPH and the Plymouth was 60+ MPH. They did these speeds on dirt roads as well not like todays roads being bitumen etc. The higher the speed was for better sales marketing. Safety was never mentioned. When driving these old cars today you have to allow a lot more space between cars to allow the car to stop in time. We are spoilt with disc brakes that will stop a car quickly. Also the modern tyres are far better. The old cars had tyres about 4” wide so not much grip on the road. Hope this answers your questions.
@@bencarroll1117 A contemporary ad for the Model A quoted 55 to 65 mph as top speed. So the Model A Roadster which had the lightest weight must have been the fastest. The Chrysler Imperial was one of the fastest cars of that era with a top speed of 80 mph ... but the roads in America were not like the multi lane highways of today. The Plymouth had more horsepower than the Model A but it also had a longer wheelbase so it was heavier. Also, the poor aerodynamics of the day held back the top speed.
@@SpockvsMcCoy There are a lot of different stories about the two cars, the Model A is said to have a top speed of around 60 mph like the Plymouth. The 28 Ford A specs are: 200 cubic inch developing 40 HP @ 2200 RPM. 103.5 inch wheel base. Weight of a 2 door roadster was 2106 lbs. 21” wheels with a 3.7 to 1 diff. 28 Plymouth Specs are: 170 cubic inches developing 45 HP @ 2800 RPM 109.75” wheel base. Weight of a 2 door roadster was 2210 lbs 20” wheels with a 4.3 to 1 diff. The Plymouth was a far superior car compared to the Ford with 4 wheel internal hydraulic brakes, full pressure engine lubrication, alloy pistons, and quite a few new styling designs. One does not care much about the top speed of these cars as to drive them flat out is a plan for disaster. There was a lot of marketing based on speed and power in those days and safety was not a issue. That is why they built 16 cylinder cars in the 30s just to say they had a bigger engine or car and it went faster etc. They don’t market cars today on what speed they will do. To drive these old cars on todays roads over 45 mph is risky even on good roads. Road holding is very average on such skinny tyres and braking was average compared to todays vehicles. It does not mater what old car you have, they are all fun and enjoyable to take out for a run whenever you can.
@@bencarroll1117 Production of the 1928 Plymouth Model Q was around 66,000 which included Canadian production. The oldest verified 1928 Plymouth is production number 287 and it sold in an auction several years ago. I think the Model A is more popular as a collectible because it has nice styling, is more plentiful, and still has the aura of Henry Ford about it. Since I also like the Model A, I watch RUclips channels about them. On one channel, the owner brags about his three Model As and how that Ford was the best car of its era. I commented that the Plymouth at that time was the best engineered low priced car but he dismissed that by saying Plymouth was in a different price class and the Ford has better quality...oh well LOL.
I had a chance to buy a 1937 Plymouth pick-up truck when I was younger, but didn't... still regretting that one!
Congratulations on your beautiful Plymouth Touring Car. We had Model A's. Thanks for sharing all the improvements and differences between the two. I didn't know all that! Happy Motoring!
Beautiful car! Blue is my colour!
i have a 1931 pa that has been in the family since new . 90 years old last month . love to drive it to many car shows in mississippi.
Great video,currently collecting parts for my 29 Plymouth 4 door sedan. Although I’ve had mine for almost 10 years I never even realized that it was only their second year of production until I ran across the thumbnail for this video. Keep up the great work. 👍
So happy you restored an early Plymouth as they are often overlooked in favor of the Model A. In America, sales of the Plymouth increased every consecutive year from 1930 to 1937. Ford's marketing strategy at that time was to sell at the lowest price but Plymouth's strategy at the same time was to offer the best engineered car in the low-priced field. But I still like Fords of that era as well as all other makes.
I think there is more restored model A's as there was 10x the number of Ford model A's originally. There were about 500,000 Model A's made compared to only 50,000 Plymouth’s in 1928.
The Plymouth had many more features than the Ford A.
@@bencarroll1117 Yes, almost 5 million Model A were produced. Many were scrapped due to old age and because of WWII but enough survived into the 1950s when they became collectible. Plymouth started slowly in sales but gained rapidly during the 1930s...sales were much closer to both Ford and Chevrolet by the late 1930s. Henry Ford told Walter Chrysler in 1927 that the Plymouth would fail. My grandfather bought a new 1935 Plymouth to replace his used 1925 Dodge.
Well done video! I look forward to more. Gary
Beautiful job
this Plymouth has an Australian built body & not exactly the same as the Nth American one ;hence the ' camper front folding down seat. Nearly all cars sold in Australia after WW. 1 had to have local built items, body work being the main feature. The quality was very good, same as US & Europe but the styling could differ & was a bit plainer.
They named it Plymouth after the pilgrims colony but they decided on Plymouth because farmers used Plymouth bailing wire/twine on hay bales because every farmer in the country used it.
hello sir
Hi Ben I have the same car as You in Adelaide .Cheers :)
Hi Tarnowek1 can you please send an email to qvva.inc@gmail.com as the owner of the vehicle would like to contact you
@@bencarroll1117 I did send it did You get it ?
Ben do you have service manual for it by any chance ?
What is the matter with the letter R ? It's a good letter, never hurt anyone. It's a beautiful letter too. Not like other plain letters such as I and v. Please. Why do some people refuse to acknowledge it, like this guy. Ca? Really, can't pronounce the R ? Even my name begins with an R. How you going to pronounce it , owe?
It's called having an accent.
Don't ever come to (especially) Eastern Massachusetts, you'll have a complete meltdown.
Plymouth was NOT the first American colony. hat was Jamestown, Virginia.
The Plymouth was introduced as a 29. There is no such thing as a 28 Plymouth.
This was covered in the video and elsewhere
www.ply33.com/Models/Q/
When did Ford offer hydraulic brakes? Were all the model A's mechanical brakes? were mechanical brakes reliable? The first time I looked at them, I couldn't believe it, it seems way too outdated, to bet your life on it -
- even at 45 miles an hour, pre-empting someone's comment that the cars didn't go that fast, I believe model A's went 60.
I guess mechanical brakes were much cheaper to produce, was the thing.
Ford used mechanical brakes rods and clevis’s right up to 1938. The first Ford with internal hydraulic brakes was the 1939 models when Edsel Ford took over the factory. Henry Ford did not believe in them.
Mechanical brakes worked OK as long as the adjustments were kept made. There were a lot of clevis pins that wore out due to the dirt getting into them.
The 3 1928 cars in the low priced market [Ford, Chevrolet & Plymouth] all had different top speeds. The Chev 4 was good for about 50 MPH, The Ford A was good for 55 MPH and the Plymouth was 60+ MPH. They did these speeds on dirt roads as well not like todays roads being bitumen etc. The higher the speed was for better sales marketing. Safety was never mentioned. When driving these old cars today you have to allow a lot more space between cars to allow the car to stop in time. We are spoilt with disc brakes that will stop a car quickly. Also the modern tyres are far better. The old cars had tyres about 4” wide so not much grip on the road. Hope this answers your questions.
@@bencarroll1117 A contemporary ad for the Model A quoted 55 to 65 mph as top speed. So the Model A Roadster which had the lightest weight must have been the fastest. The Chrysler Imperial was one of the fastest cars of that era with a top speed of 80 mph ... but the roads in America were not like the multi lane highways of today. The Plymouth had more horsepower than the Model A but it also had a longer wheelbase so it was heavier. Also, the poor aerodynamics of the day held back the top speed.
@@SpockvsMcCoy There are a lot of different stories about the two cars, the Model A is said to have a top speed of around 60 mph like the Plymouth.
The 28 Ford A specs are: 200 cubic inch developing 40 HP @ 2200 RPM.
103.5 inch wheel base. Weight of a 2 door roadster was 2106 lbs.
21” wheels with a 3.7 to 1 diff.
28 Plymouth Specs are: 170 cubic inches developing 45 HP @ 2800 RPM
109.75” wheel base. Weight of a 2 door roadster was 2210 lbs
20” wheels with a 4.3 to 1 diff.
The Plymouth was a far superior car compared to the Ford with 4 wheel internal hydraulic brakes, full pressure engine lubrication, alloy pistons, and quite a few new styling designs.
One does not care much about the top speed of these cars as to drive them flat out is a plan for disaster. There was a lot of marketing based on speed and power in those days and safety was not a issue. That is why they built 16 cylinder cars in the 30s just to say they had a bigger engine or car and it went faster etc.
They don’t market cars today on what speed they will do.
To drive these old cars on todays roads over 45 mph is risky even on good roads. Road holding is very average on such skinny tyres and braking was average compared to todays vehicles.
It does not mater what old car you have, they are all fun and enjoyable to take out for a run whenever you can.
@@bencarroll1117 Production of the 1928 Plymouth Model Q was around 66,000 which included Canadian production.
The oldest verified 1928 Plymouth is production number 287 and it sold in an auction several years ago. I think the Model A is more popular as a collectible because it has nice styling, is more plentiful, and still has the aura of Henry Ford about it. Since I also like the Model A, I watch RUclips channels about them. On one channel, the owner brags about his three Model As and how that Ford was the best car of its era. I commented that the Plymouth at that time was the best engineered low priced car but he dismissed that by saying Plymouth was in a different price class and the Ford has better quality...oh well LOL.