An impressive showing for a midrange FX series CPU, since the ivy bridge competition not only beat it back in the day, but are still super useable today.
I had FX 4350 and it wasn't good. But then I had Ryzen 7 1700, then Ryzen 9 3900X and those were really good CPUs. 2 months ago I've upgraded to Ryzen 9 5950X and it has so much firepower🔥 (in a positive way)
Very interesting video! As someone that owns 6 FX chips (8320, 8150, 6300, 6100, 4300 and 4100), i believe you can extract some extra performance even with a basic motherboard like yours. 1-FX is massively overvolted and too power hungry at stock, so you can use the stock voltage (around 1.35v) and just up the clock speed, in fact my 6300 does 4.3 GHz using the stock voltage, a whooping 800 MHz boost. 2-Use medium CPU LLC with Gigabyte boards 3-A fan behind the motherboard does wonders to the AM3+ platform, or a small 40-80mm fan blowing air between the VRM and the NB, (i personaly use the later). 4-If you are going to get a better motherboard i would avoid Asus for two reason: One is that the motherboard "CPU" temperature, often refered as "socket" temperatures are HIGH, even on 990X/990FX boards. Two, you can't run 1 core per module on R2.0 boards. The Gigabyte 970 UD3P motherboard seems to be the best bang for the buck using this platform, it has the powerful VRM of the 990FXA but its far cheaper thanks to the 970 chipset. Btw 990 boards are not that useful, unless you like crazy setups running CrossfireX or SLi like me. Hope i helped with this comments, keep up with the good work!
Appreciate the tips! Was hoping for some feedback like this as I'd love to revisit this CPU with some more proper hardware 👍 On this board I had to dial in the voltage to 1.4v to get it stable at 4.2GHz, I felt the increase was too underwhelming to include in this video as I think I could get a LOT more out of this chip with a higher end board.
@@pankoza2 That is a pretty neat board! You choosed wisely. It indeed supports Crossfire/Sli, but it will be a little slower than the 990FX boards. Your 970 can handle two cards at PCIe 2.0 x8, the 990's on the other hand will run these two cards at PCIe 2.0 x16.
@@4ghzgaming664 Well, Crosshair V is great but is so expensive to the point of diminishing returns. It's a great board, but for LN2, for daily usage i wouldn't use it. CHV-Z is also great but somehow has less features than the original CHV. My advice for him was more about the EVO and PRO boards, althought the CHV and Sabertooth also tend to be a little bit too hot in the "socket". Btw i really liked your username sir 😄
I have FX6300 paired with Radeon RX 570 in my Win7 machine. Using it mostly to play older games with UI scaling problems (Main rig is for 4k gaming). Overclocked to 4,2 GHz and no problems whatsoever.
I just built that exact same build yesterday with exception to using a 6350 on water and OC'ing the snot out of it. You really dont see any changes after 4.5GHz it seems.
@@HardWhereHero I have rather old but still capable Arctic Freezer 13. With this silicon and cooler 4,35GHz is pretty much max I can reach. But IMHO added temperature and power consumption isn't worth those extra 2-5 FPS. Right now I am sitting on comfortable 50C at 100% CPU usage (yes, I tried Baldur's Gate 3 on this computer, in outside areas CPU usage is usually at 100% or close.)
It was my first ever cpu puchase with my own money around 2013. I could get the fx6300 or a 3.gen i3 for ~100eur at the time. A huge upgrade for me from a c2d E6400. I replaced it with a first gen ryzen 5 in 2018 only because with newer titles i noticed some annoying stuttering.
It's 2024 and I'm still using my FX6300, Gigabyte 990FX, and RAM I bought more than a decade ago, paired with a RX6600. It's bottlenecked to heck obviously, but still capable of some gaming and it still run quite smooth with very minimal problems for my daily use. I want to upgrade, but with the economy and my finances being pretty unwell, I'm just thankful the old girl still runs very well @ 4.1GhZ daily.
You know its funny, my main rig just died and I pulled my old FX-6300 with board and RAM out of the garage and threw my (UNIRONICALLY) 5700XT and SSD onto the build. Glad to see this old girl is still capable.
Thanks for the video. I realized a few weeks ago i actually had alomst all the parts to build out 3 of these Fx 6300s on my shelf so i snagged some cheap rx 580s and got to work. They will all run linux mint with some gaming tweaks and ill post some bench marking scores here if i remember for you to look at.
I still have a 4350 and a 4150, I don't think they are as good as the 6300 / 6350 though. I got a 8350 on ebay that looked like it was thrown in a blender and was able to revive it. Broke a redundant voltage ground pin while working on it though.
Just snagged a used PC with this CPU alongside a 980 and 16 GB's of RAM for $115 CAD the other day. As someone more looking into emulation capabilities & seeking out a possible GPU upgrade in the next few months, this was an interesting watch.
I have fond memories of the fx chips. They got me through my college years. Started with an FX-4100 on a tiny 21inch 720p monitor paired with an HD 6870 1GB. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I experienced my first steam summer sale in Summer of 2012 thanks to this build. I would later try upgrading to an FX-8350 unfortunately it did not go as planned. I managed to bend some pins during the install and had to revert to the 4100. Not my finest hour given I was studying IT at the time lol. A friend tried bending the pins back and we did managed to get it into Windows but it kept crashing. I suspect there was still a bent pin we missed. So we just kinda gave up on it.
If you want help with overclocking, i might be able to help you. i have an FX 6300 that can reach 5 GHz on air using my Sabertooth 990FX 2.0 board. Now, there are some use cases where the FX CPUs has a place, and that is beginner friendly overclocking. because on most decent boards, they are fully unlocked to do PCIe, BCLK, NB, HT and MP overclocking, so you can really fine-tune your CPU to your liking. But yeah, those VRMs on most budget boards are probably the reason why you rarely see those around anymore on the used market.
When I track down a better board I could certainly use some pointers! Been a while since I've done some proper tuning with an FX. And for sure, the fact that the board can't even run 125W CPUs like an FX 8350 is very telling, its pretty much bottom of the barrel for FX boards lol
@@SPNG i wish i was more local, because i have an ASUS M5A97 R2.0 for reserve that you could’ve loaned. And that board was fairly common for mid end FX builds i believe. That board was capable of 4.6 GHz 1.36V on the 6300 (as far as i am willing to go to save on the VRM a bit). Anything above that does require a bit more airflow than an aircooler around the VRM and NB heatsink.
Back in a day had two systems on AM3, one running 6300, the other 8300. Weak mobos were overheating constantly and was happy the get rid of both of them. Recently got deal on a gigabyte 990xa(not fxa) ud3 mobo with 6300 and was positively surprised. Still, it needed additional vrm cooling but got 4.7GHz at 1.4V and it worked definitely better than I remember. Now to complete collection got nice deal on iconic (bad) fx9590 with Asrock 990FX Extreme9 with some back alley tier cooling modifications (additional radiators sticked all over front and back of the vrms).
I had a 8320e 990FX setup with DDR3 1866 mhz. My logic at the time was that I was getting increased performance in compute tasks at the time of release compared to a locked i5 which is where the price points met. The 2500k was more expensive than the FX series. Though the motherboards we used to push the FX series were too pricey for the gains we recieved. Buying a $200 board to push a $150 CPU for a 10% increase in performance makes no sense to me now but did then. I also got a lot of features going that route though. I was using NVME onboard years before everyone else. Had great onboard audio and networking. I still have the core components. Gonna spend $200 on a case and PSU to put it back together for nostalgia. Slap my old GTX 980 in there and benchmark it for yall.
The problem with FX wasn't that it was bad, it was that Sandybridge was absolutely legendary. That problem continues to this day, as Sandybridge and Ivybridge are both dirt cheap and absolutely crush FX in pretty much every way. I used an FX6300 for a while, and it's a decent chip, but it's pretty telling that a same-time-period quad core from Intel holds up so much better than these 6 - 8 core AMD CPUs. The final nail in the coffin for these is Ryzen, since AM4 is still super affordable. I am very happy you can still use AM3 CPU coolers on AM4 because that's what lets me use my favorite CPU cooler of all time in my AM4 build :D
I have to disagree. Had to choose between i5 4460 rig and FX6300 one (too many computers). After excessive testing I sold i5 machine. Only aspect where i5 'crushed' FX6300, was single and double threaded games.
That's a nice way to reuse these CPUs! They're definitely not the best on power consumption but you could probably do some undervolting to keep it down.
great video! my first gaming rig had a FX-6300 cpu (later upgraded to a FX-8350). dollar for dollar I'd choose it again over a ivy-bridge i3 (even in retrospect).
Overclocking is mandatory. And by bus (north bridge 2660/2880 + HT bus 2660/2880, but on some motherboards multipliers don't work, so system BCLK bus overclock is the choise), not by just cranking multiplier. And also ram need to be overclocked to 2000+ mhz. Then FX thing is just shines, especially 6300/8300/8350/8370. Like even today. Gameone did video about this, but you need to watch it with subtitles (as video is in Russian language).
youtu. be / LdRUpaPfBpk (get rid of spaces). Thats really interesting how fx could actually perform better with overclocked bus, ram and north bridge, without even uplifting core clock speed.
In a follow up I'm hoping to push this CPU to something like 4.8GHz on air, with maybe RAM set at 2400MHz CL10. Gonna need a much more capable board though
@@SPNG nonono! In AMD FX processors, the weakest point is the memory subsystem. Not the cores! The cores are already powerful by themselves, there is no need to overclock them above 4.2-4.4 GHz and torture the processor. The processor's memory subsystem is connected through the north bridge. NB is very slow and is not even in the CPU itself. And if you overclock the CPU and memory, you will be left with a bottleneck in the form of the north bridge, which connects the CPU and memory. That's why I strongly recommend overclocking the system with the BCLK system bus. It is set at 200 mhz and multiplied by 11 (I think) by default. You get 2200 mhz. And you need a value around 240-260 to maximize the memory subsystem gain (2600+ mhz). This is all explained in the video I posted. If you can't watch it with subtitles, I think there is information on the Internet why FX processors should not be overclocked all the way to the top, but should be played with overclocking the memory subsystem. (NB voltage, memory voltage and cpu voltage should be adjusted too, LLC should be disabled, as Cool'n'quiet and other unnecessary features). And remember - when you overclocking system bus - you also overclocking memory and CPU itself. So be careful with multipliers on cpu and memory. Thanks for your attention. Advice from Russian overclockers who have been sitting on AMD FX for years (myself too, fx8350 2013-2019).
This is like problems with lga775 or newest intel 12/13 gen processors - when NB itself isn't on cpu and it could be really slow. 12-13 gen are stuttering in windows. Like really. Look it up on youtube. This is because those processors are using external north bridge it has such delays. Omg... And lga775 has no point of installing ddr3 just because of slow north bridge. It could be done only in case of lack of ram capacity, not overall system speed. (Even if ddr3 is 1333 and ddr2 is just 800 at best). And FX is suffering from this too. But in this case it could be actually resolved.
I'm still using Phenom II X6 1065T on my 890FXA GD70 mainboard. Just bought FX 8350 and 990FXA-UD3 R5 mainboard combo for $51. I want to feel the max potential of AM3+ era PC. I paired it with 32GB RAM DDR3 1600 Mhz and RX 580 8 gigs. Many of my friends tell me that upgrade is big no and not even worth the money. But for me, at least i'm happy with it. So why not?
Great video. I stopped using this CPU when my 970A-DS3 died in pandemic. It was a really good companion back then with the good old HD 7870 XT. I swear I will find a good 990FX MB and woke this old beast up and also try some overclocking which I can't be able with the cheap 970A-DS3. And honestly I expected way more bottleneck but I am completely impressed :)
If you find a good deal on one I'd say go for it, these CPUs are fun to tune and test! And me too, I wasn't expecting it to get even close to keeping up with the 5700 XT, looking forward to trying it out with an overclock 👍
Great video. from my testing, the fx 6300 is okay, but in a comparison against an i5 2500 it still does worse, an i5 3570 would most probably wipe the floor with the 6300, adding to that the fact that they are pretty similarly priced on the used market, the 3570 is a much better choice, but neither are the best when it comes to new titles to be honest
My little workhorse. I didn't know anything about computers so I got a pre built with this and and a geforce 1060 in it in 2016. I mostly played older games so it was perfectly fine until I got into Tarkov.
I never been a fan of AMD but recently I have been building couple of retro systems with the "bulldozer" cpus might have to make a build with the FX 6300 as well
I built my first real custom build using this processor back in 2013 when i was still in highschool and it served me well till 2017 when i replaced it with an i7 7700 and it became my secondary PC till this year when i finally sold it a few weeks ago along with the i7 build and replaced them both with new Ryzen systems. Despite the hate the FX had,i was able to run anything while it was heavily used as my main PC and i think it still holds up acceptable today because games finally use the cores. Too bad the arhitecture is too old now otherwise they would have shined back in their day if most games and programs actually used more than 2-4 cores
hello and ty for the video, i would have loved the test in 1440p, and a brutal overclock would be awesome - i still have one, and i also have an asus 990fx tuf motherboard, i am now eager to check it out for myself :) ty again!
Glad you enjoyed 👍 I still want to do some overclocking with this chip but I've had some other projects get in the way and I still need to source a good enough board for it. I'm sure I'll get to it at some point, just not sure when.
Used to run my FX-6300 at 4.9ghz 1.57v paired with an Avexir 8gb kit at 1900mhz c10 paired with an XFX HD7950. Ran my games fine at that time without issues. Shame you didn't do the test with 2400mhz oc you mentioned.
Nice, would have been a pretty fast setup for the time! What did you have for CPU cooling? I'd imagine it took a lot to tame it at those settings. And don't worry, the overclocking fun will come in the follow up 👍Still working on getting the parts but it's definitely coming down the pipeline
If you plan to buy cheap FX CPU, it is better to go with 8300. Extra 2 cores (or one if you count that way 😁) would do a lot of difference in more modern games, especially in 1% and 0.1% lows. 8350 (and 8320) on the other hand is expensive and simply not worth the money.
SPNG : just a friendly advice. Your channel is extremely difficult to find in youtubes search by typing the name SPNG. Change it to smth else because youtube algorithm is defining it as an abbervation of a word. And I still have an FX 8350 (running on stock clocks being cooled by the original Wraith 2015 cooler) and coupled with my KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC 8GB it runs every modern game at 1080p Ultra (without AA) fluently and I love it for that 🤩
@@GraveUypo actually the fx series was supposed to release in 2009 and 2010, but cane 2 years late, that's probably the reaaon it did so poorly, if it was release when it was supposed to, it would have been a much better CPU
I have a Phenom II X4 840T (a Thuban X6 with 2 cores disabled) which I've tried to unlock but unfortunately I've had no luck. I'd like to get my hands on a true X6 at some point though, would be interesting to test.
Honestly I'd only use an FX CPU for a legacy multi boot system running windows xp 64, windows 7 and windows 10. At that point only the FX 8350 is reasonable to use with modern games in windows 10. For a higher end FX build I'd run a GTX 970, 980, 980ti or Titan on the Nvidia side and for amd the r9 290/x maybe the rx 480/580. I'd still say Nvidia will be better for cross compatibility from xp64 to win10. As for ram speed I'm pretty sure it can be set to run different ram speed, timings and latency for each operating system.
I have a silicon lottery 5.2 Ghz 6350 on water with a rx 480 that still runs mostly everything. its on a 990 FXA board which still fetches a heavy price used. The kids us it mostly cuz I don't want them using my rig. :)
There was a China only FX-4200, this is a genuine quad core design featuring 1 core per module so no components are shared, its the best example of what FX could have been capable of if this was continued, it is the gem of the FX lineup. I have the same mystery Adata ram that i haven't been able to find out the vendor, mine too does 2400Mhz 1.65V but needs heatsinks.
Had no idea that was a thing! I want one now... could be interesting to test it against a comparable i5 of the time to see how it would stack up, I'd imagine floating point performance in particular would be much improved since it has 4 FPUs. Interesting you have the same RAM as well, I got my kit extremely cheap a few years ago and can be pretty decent with some tuning! Edit: It seems like that FX 4200 has a 125W TDP, oddly high for a quad core. With that I'd speculate it was originally an 8-core Bulldozer CPU maybe with 1 core disabled in each module?
@@SPNG Yup, used to run that memory with an athlon 880K at 4.4ghz on a cheap gigabyte board with a 3+1 design, though the board degraded since i used to be able to get 4.7 however overclocking the ram improved the 0.1% lows, fast ram with FX and fm2 platforms is a must to improve the frametimes, i need to get one myself along with a pentium e6500K, the first unlocked pentium dual core! based on the e5800 which e5200 cores were harvested from and known to clock well. on the cheap being based on mobile penryn core known as wolfdale. little gems that could make for a good video for you those 2 chips, very little on them :) maybe a 3570K vs FX-4200 and 6500K vs i5 6500k as a giggle, kinda like the A series 7700 APU vs an i7 7700 but a 6500k vs G3258 would be fun too..i should set up a channel with all these ideas but im sure you could do it better!
@@Skrubmeister my comment explains it..its the only fx chip without a shared module design, genuine 4 core design. But it was a quiet china only release.
The PC I built back in 2014 has this chip. I'm going to swap the GPU for my family PC for $165 (for light gaming) instead of opting for a brand-new build.
In my experience back in the day the fx6300 has some major performance issues compare to the 8core versions. Back in mid 2016 an fx8300 was 10-20$ cheaper than a core i3 4130 in stores.
@@chloedevereaux1801that's not actually true. People got the wrong idea because of how the chips were designed, but they did remain true 6/8 core CPUs.
My 1155 mobo died so i sold my 2500k for 30 euro and got whole PC with FX 8320 for 60 euro.Only difference i noticed that in Witcher 3 FX 8320 is not only faster but much smoother.Both on stock i never OC anything.For retro gaming OC is not worth it.
my friend used fx 6100 for few months and he had terrible experience with it as some games had massive stutters, problems disapeared once he changed to i7 3770
Im still using an 990x FX-8350 on 4.4Ghz airflow. Its a really good platform, im a fan of it but… I m selling it. I can make a newer and cheaper AM4 config which performs better than this. And I feel that nowadays game are not running really good in 1080p. Simply, this cpu aging very good but you can see that its 12 years old.
I play retail wow with a FX 6300 and a 1050ti with no issues, 10 yo build from my college days . I know nothing about computers and im pretty sure wow is most dependent on read write speeds on the harddrive? Somone correct me.
It's not fast, but I think I'm surprised at how well the FX 6300 does. I have a friend who still uses an FX 8350 paired with a GTX 760 though he doesn't really play newer PC games; he mostly plays games on console. I think the newest games he plays are Humankind and Chivalry 2. I don't know how well they play on there though.
It certainly impressed me here, I was expecting a lot of these titles to be a slideshow on here but these results were a pleasant surprise! I want to get a better board to see what it can do with an overclock, would probably fare even better
You could probably get a little bit more out of it, even on this super cheapo board I can do some slight overclocks. If not, undervolting wouldn't be bad to keep heat down!
@SPNG I just got a $20 thermaltake cooler and brought it up to 4.1ghz. Unfortunately it's still very slow but at least it's noticeably better than stock performance. Either way I think it can sell for more than I paid for it
The biggest issue with the FX lineup is the false advertisement of these chips. The 4100 and 4300 were actually dual cores, the 6100 and 6300 were triple core, the 8100, 8300, 8350, 8370, and the 9590 were quad core. Somehow AMD managed to get away with advertising each chip as quad core, six core, and eight core when they accounted multi-threading.
Except that’s not true either. They clearly aren’t CPUs with HT/SMT. A FX 6300 isn’t a 3 core and 6 thread. It literally has 6 cores. The best way to explain it is a 3 module cpu with each module having 2 cores. While calling them true 4/6/8 core CPUs is up for debate, your explanation is just 100% wrong. Calling them shit trash garbage CPUs with gimped cores is a better explanation
@@SPNG hey, I could have gone with the other method of describing these CPUs Are conjoined twins one person? Or 2? HT/SMT is like hiring one employee and giving them 2 monitors. FX cpu core design is like hiring a pair of conjoined twins
Depends on games and res and settings etc, but I'd have no problem combining them with any GCN based gpu and upto a 980ti/1070 IF you like 2160p or 1440p at 60hz
Hah its all good man. I have some other projects getting in the way, but I'll keep an eye out for boards on the used market. I'm sure I'll find something, I'd love to start tuning this chip 😄
@@dipakgosain I bet, I had a 9th gen system for awhile, running a 4th gen dell XPS w/a 1650S a my gaming machine right now, most of the games I play are 2009-2015. I live in a town with a Intel factory, I used to work there and still have friends that do, so parts are easy to come by. I usually take the left overs from my one friend that works there, he buys the best of whatever is out, every few years. The FX-6300 system, I got in a trade a few days ago, I traded an old laptop for it. Aside from a Ryzen 2600, I have never had a AMD Cpu before.
well i do think games are kind of cherrypicked, except for cyberpunk i'd say that there is no game as demanding here... there are no 2023 tittles, and GTAV its just a 2015 game... a game of the era in which Fx cpus were aging but still on sell brand new. In fact, it was only in 2017 the 1st gen Ryzen replaced the 7yr run of the Fx (Bulldozer and Vishera) CPUs back into fx6300, the six-core CPU wasn't that good at stock, but had a huge OC potential, so it was a very good bargain to buy it with a 970 board and a Hyper 212, and made it 4.3/4.5ghz which was very doable at safe temps if half decent case cooling was in the mix. That way Fx6300 was superior to 2nd/3rd gen i3 and near low tier i5 in games, but on pair with i5 on some productivity tasks. That being said, the Fx cpus didn't do well on Dx11 games, ever, so by 2016 when Vulkan and Dx12 started to became mainstream, the AMD cpus gained kind of a new life as valuable 2nd tier budget CPUs for the used market... But now in 2024... i think that ship has sailed... you can't really expect for an Fx6300 to handle a GPU better than a 1050Ti without a lot of bottleneck except on cherrypicked games. At this point the only realistic Fx cpu able to handle some decent gaming is Fx8350/8370 (and the rare and dumb Fx9370 and Fx9590) that can be paired (with some struggle) with GPUs in the order of a GTX 1060 6gb or Rx 580 8gb (but more realistic would be the Rx570 insted). I know it since i had my Fx8350 with an Rx 570 4gb (which was replaced at march 2023 with an Rx 580 4gb) and 16gb of ram as main rig since 2017 (originally purchased in 2016 with an R7 370 4gb) up to feb. 2024. So i know in detail how much the Fx8350 barely hold with an Rx 580 using all its 8 cores at 4.0ghz, which was aliviated the times i OCd it to 4.4ghz (good improvement but not worth the risk). So... to all looking at an Fx 6300... yes... it will serve you well as an improved ofimatic CPU (way better than Phenoms, Celerons, Pentiums i3 and AMD APUS of the DDR3 era) that might allow some pro-user features like a lot of tabs in Chrome and multitasking... that will allow for modest gaming purposes (some indy, older and MOBA games will run fine with a GTX1050ti) and able to get some upgradepath (Fx8350) but don't expect it to compete with anything in the Ryzen lineup... and by the time an R3 1200 enters the debate with a DDR4 mobo with more modern features like PCIE-3, maybe nvme m.2 slot and the upgrade path for up to Ryzen 5000.. there's no point in this Fx cpu (or anyone to be honest) no matter the prize, since a 1st gen low tier Ryzen with an A320 or even B350 mobo its quite cheap this days
Games are definitely something I'm gonna work on for the next video. I want to get ahold of a really proper suite but new games are expensive 😅 It's the main thing stopping me from doing the follow up video. Gonna be taking a look at a bit more than the FX 6300 as well, you may be surprised 👀 The point wasn't to suggest this CPU as a viable budget option for modern games, rather if someone is still hanging onto them these days maybe they should consider waiting a little longer before an upgrade. I still think these CPUs do better than most people think.
In isolation, it looks pretty impressive, but when you put things into context and realize you're getting RX 480 level of performance out of that 5700XT then you realize how not good those FX CPUs are
RX 480 performance is a bit pessimistic to say the least 😅You're not going to be getting close to 50 fps in RDR2 at 1080p Ultra with an RX 480. I think it's more of a mixed bag and really depends on the game, some see the both the FX 6300 and 5700 XT at high utilization and some will not. I'm not saying the 5700 XT is the perfect pairing for a CPU like this, but it can definitely drive a more powerful GPU than an RX 480.
@@SPNG If you have the means, you could make a video on how high can you go GPU wise before the fps benefits stop. But I'm pretty sure the limit is somewhere between the RX 480/580 and the GTX 1070, since you're right about your RDR2 example. Cheers 😄
My old ryzen 1300x was able to run gta 5 at 60 fps with an rx 570 which is half as powerful as your 5700 but red dead 2 is probably better on yours but I don't have it. Assassins creed odysee really struggled on my cpu back then so I got a ryzen 5600 which is much better.
Interesting 🤔For what its worth I'd say it doesn't do too badly at least in this suite, I'm sure a 4460 would be better here but probably not by that margin.
I also had bad expirance with AMD FX, becasue I had Core 2 Quad Q9600 and I have swiched to FX4350 in 2014 and difference wasn't that big, so in 2017 I bought Ryzen 3 1200 (and OC to 4GHz) and that thing was quite good. In 2020 I bought Ryzen 9 3900X on a sale and it is AMAZING
Would perform a lot better but a 2500K plus a P67 or Z68 motherboard for tuning would have cost a good chunk of change more as well. If you had more to spend the 2500K definitely would have been the CPU to get but compared to its price comparable i3 3220 I assume the FX 6300 would have been a better buy in the long run with the extra threads.
@@SPNG AMD FX used are overprice because people look at specs and think 6 or 8 cores? it is like Ryzen 5 or 7 so used FX 8100 costs 100$ and i5-2400 25$ or i7-2600 is for 50$. Anyway even Ryzen 3 3100 is much faster
@@ALPHABYTE1994I think he was talking about when the CPUs were new back in the day. Not now, on the user market. Of course, pretty much any i5 or i7 from that era will blow that FX chip out of the water, and buying an FX used today is utterly pointless.
@@Milwalkereal I mean this is definitely subject to change but as of July 2023 the RX 6700 XT (or 6750 XT maybe) offers excellent performance for under $400, it's a much better bang for your buck than the RX 7600 at least.
I daily drove this FX for a while a fair few years back, with a GTX 780 it wasn't that bad to be honest. I certainly could have done worse, like Bulldozer 😬 At least this chip was cheap too
it's only worth it for Windows XP retro gaming! it was terrible even with Windows 7 and i have a FX 8350 to prove how terrible it was with any Windows newer than XP for any AMD FX CPU u had better luck with AMD FX than i ever will have
For what its worth, my experience with this CPU wasn't terrible. I was surprised it could keep the 5700 XT fed at all, even if it was only in a few games. I'm sure this would be a pretty great retro CPU though, I gotta load up XP on it sometime.
This may be true but the 2080Ti is worse value. It was a terrible value when it hit the market, and it's still a terrible value today. The RX 5700 XT is a very powerful graphics card, for you to suggest otherwise shows your lack of knowledge about computer hardware and your pertinence to brand shilling.
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 I agree, but not with price to performance. I don't need to cope, I work with these materials every day for a living. The 2080Ti, 2070, etc, are great cards, but are way overpriced.
An impressive showing for a midrange FX series CPU, since the ivy bridge competition not only beat it back in the day, but are still super useable today.
Indeed, I think this CPU is a lot more capable than people give it credit for!
I had FX 4350 and it wasn't good. But then I had Ryzen 7 1700, then Ryzen 9 3900X and those were really good CPUs.
2 months ago I've upgraded to Ryzen 9 5950X and it has so much firepower🔥 (in a positive way)
i used the fx6300 in my main rig for quite a few years and had no problems gaming with it. love this video. brings back a lot of memories
Very interesting video! As someone that owns 6 FX chips (8320, 8150, 6300, 6100, 4300 and 4100), i believe you can extract some extra performance even with a basic motherboard like yours.
1-FX is massively overvolted and too power hungry at stock, so you can use the stock voltage (around 1.35v) and just up the clock speed, in fact my 6300 does 4.3 GHz using the stock voltage, a whooping 800 MHz boost.
2-Use medium CPU LLC with Gigabyte boards
3-A fan behind the motherboard does wonders to the AM3+ platform, or a small 40-80mm fan blowing air between the VRM and the NB, (i personaly use the later).
4-If you are going to get a better motherboard i would avoid Asus for two reason: One is that the motherboard "CPU" temperature, often refered as "socket" temperatures are HIGH, even on 990X/990FX boards. Two, you can't run 1 core per module on R2.0 boards. The Gigabyte 970 UD3P motherboard seems to be the best bang for the buck using this platform, it has the powerful VRM of the 990FXA but its far cheaper thanks to the 970 chipset. Btw 990 boards are not that useful, unless you like crazy setups running CrossfireX or SLi like me.
Hope i helped with this comments, keep up with the good work!
Appreciate the tips! Was hoping for some feedback like this as I'd love to revisit this CPU with some more proper hardware 👍 On this board I had to dial in the voltage to 1.4v to get it stable at 4.2GHz, I felt the increase was too underwhelming to include in this video as I think I could get a LOT more out of this chip with a higher end board.
I even have a 970 board (MSI 970 Gaming) that apparently supports SLi and Crossfire as well
@@pankoza2 That is a pretty neat board! You choosed wisely. It indeed supports Crossfire/Sli, but it will be a little slower than the 990FX boards. Your 970 can handle two cards at PCIe 2.0 x8, the 990's on the other hand will run these two cards at PCIe 2.0 x16.
"Avoid Asus on Am3+" CFV and CFV-Z Am I a joke to you??
@@4ghzgaming664 Well, Crosshair V is great but is so expensive to the point of diminishing returns. It's a great board, but for LN2, for daily usage i wouldn't use it. CHV-Z is also great but somehow has less features than the original CHV.
My advice for him was more about the EVO and PRO boards, althought the CHV and Sabertooth also tend to be a little bit too hot in the "socket".
Btw i really liked your username sir 😄
I have FX6300 paired with Radeon RX 570 in my Win7 machine. Using it mostly to play older games with UI scaling problems (Main rig is for 4k gaming). Overclocked to 4,2 GHz and no problems whatsoever.
I just built that exact same build yesterday with exception to using a 6350 on water and OC'ing the snot out of it. You really dont see any changes after 4.5GHz it seems.
@@HardWhereHero I have rather old but still capable Arctic Freezer 13. With this silicon and cooler 4,35GHz is pretty much max I can reach. But IMHO added temperature and power consumption isn't worth those extra 2-5 FPS. Right now I am sitting on comfortable 50C at 100% CPU usage (yes, I tried Baldur's Gate 3 on this computer, in outside areas CPU usage is usually at 100% or close.)
I have a FX 6100 and its doing a great job in gaming and office
This cpu was the heart of my first build. Nostalgia
This was my main CPU for around a year or two, it was pretty nice when I was using it!
It was my first ever cpu puchase with my own money around 2013. I could get the fx6300 or a 3.gen i3 for ~100eur at the time. A huge upgrade for me from a c2d E6400. I replaced it with a first gen ryzen 5 in 2018 only because with newer titles i noticed some annoying stuttering.
It's 2024 and I'm still using my FX6300, Gigabyte 990FX, and RAM I bought more than a decade ago, paired with a RX6600.
It's bottlenecked to heck obviously, but still capable of some gaming and it still run quite smooth with very minimal problems for my daily use.
I want to upgrade, but with the economy and my finances being pretty unwell, I'm just thankful the old girl still runs very well @ 4.1GhZ daily.
You know its funny, my main rig just died and I pulled my old FX-6300 with board and RAM out of the garage and threw my (UNIRONICALLY) 5700XT and SSD onto the build. Glad to see this old girl is still capable.
Thanks for the video. I realized a few weeks ago i actually had alomst all the parts to build out 3 of these Fx 6300s on my shelf so i snagged some cheap rx 580s and got to work. They will all run linux mint with some gaming tweaks and ill post some bench marking scores here if i remember for you to look at.
I still have a 4350 and a 4150, I don't think they are as good as the 6300 / 6350 though. I got a 8350 on ebay that looked like it was thrown in a blender and was able to revive it. Broke a redundant voltage ground pin while working on it though.
Just snagged a used PC with this CPU alongside a 980 and 16 GB's of RAM for $115 CAD the other day. As someone more looking into emulation capabilities & seeking out a possible GPU upgrade in the next few months, this was an interesting watch.
I have fond memories of the fx chips. They got me through my college years. Started with an FX-4100 on a tiny 21inch 720p monitor paired with an HD 6870 1GB. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I experienced my first steam summer sale in Summer of 2012 thanks to this build. I would later try upgrading to an FX-8350 unfortunately it did not go as planned. I managed to bend some pins during the install and had to revert to the 4100. Not my finest hour given I was studying IT at the time lol. A friend tried bending the pins back and we did managed to get it into Windows but it kept crashing. I suspect there was still a bent pin we missed. So we just kinda gave up on it.
If you want help with overclocking, i might be able to help you. i have an FX 6300 that can reach 5 GHz on air using my Sabertooth 990FX 2.0 board.
Now, there are some use cases where the FX CPUs has a place, and that is beginner friendly overclocking. because on most decent boards, they are fully unlocked to do PCIe, BCLK, NB, HT and MP overclocking, so you can really fine-tune your CPU to your liking. But yeah, those VRMs on most budget boards are probably the reason why you rarely see those around anymore on the used market.
When I track down a better board I could certainly use some pointers! Been a while since I've done some proper tuning with an FX. And for sure, the fact that the board can't even run 125W CPUs like an FX 8350 is very telling, its pretty much bottom of the barrel for FX boards lol
@@SPNG i wish i was more local, because i have an ASUS M5A97 R2.0 for reserve that you could’ve loaned. And that board was fairly common for mid end FX builds i believe. That board was capable of 4.6 GHz 1.36V on the 6300 (as far as i am willing to go to save on the VRM a bit). Anything above that does require a bit more airflow than an aircooler around the VRM and NB heatsink.
Great video mate as always! Still a fan of the FX but it's more a love for an old dog these days sadly.
Back in a day had two systems on AM3, one running 6300, the other 8300. Weak mobos were overheating constantly and was happy the get rid of both of them. Recently got deal on a gigabyte 990xa(not fxa) ud3 mobo with 6300 and was positively surprised. Still, it needed additional vrm cooling but got 4.7GHz at 1.4V and it worked definitely better than I remember. Now to complete collection got nice deal on iconic (bad) fx9590 with Asrock 990FX Extreme9 with some back alley tier cooling modifications (additional radiators sticked all over front and back of the vrms).
I had a 8320e 990FX setup with DDR3 1866 mhz. My logic at the time was that I was getting increased performance in compute tasks at the time of release compared to a locked i5 which is where the price points met. The 2500k was more expensive than the FX series. Though the motherboards we used to push the FX series were too pricey for the gains we recieved. Buying a $200 board to push a $150 CPU for a 10% increase in performance makes no sense to me now but did then. I also got a lot of features going that route though. I was using NVME onboard years before everyone else. Had great onboard audio and networking. I still have the core components. Gonna spend $200 on a case and PSU to put it back together for nostalgia. Slap my old GTX 980 in there and benchmark it for yall.
How far did you push the chip with that board? And sounds like a fun rig, would love to see it!
The problem with FX wasn't that it was bad, it was that Sandybridge was absolutely legendary. That problem continues to this day, as Sandybridge and Ivybridge are both dirt cheap and absolutely crush FX in pretty much every way.
I used an FX6300 for a while, and it's a decent chip, but it's pretty telling that a same-time-period quad core from Intel holds up so much better than these 6 - 8 core AMD CPUs.
The final nail in the coffin for these is Ryzen, since AM4 is still super affordable. I am very happy you can still use AM3 CPU coolers on AM4 because that's what lets me use my favorite CPU cooler of all time in my AM4 build :D
I have to disagree. Had to choose between i5 4460 rig and FX6300 one (too many computers). After excessive testing I sold i5 machine. Only aspect where i5 'crushed' FX6300, was single and double threaded games.
@@RudolfSikorsky yeah, also here (in HU) the 1155/1150 rigs are expensive, an FX 8350 would be much better. The FXes aging very well.
Thank you. I am reviving some older setups as well for odds and ends.
I have a gt740 and fx 6300 combo that I repurposed into an emulation station. Works great
That's a nice way to reuse these CPUs! They're definitely not the best on power consumption but you could probably do some undervolting to keep it down.
great video! my first gaming rig had a FX-6300 cpu (later upgraded to a FX-8350). dollar for dollar I'd choose it again over a ivy-bridge i3 (even in retrospect).
Overclocking is mandatory.
And by bus (north bridge 2660/2880 + HT bus 2660/2880, but on some motherboards multipliers don't work, so system BCLK bus overclock is the choise), not by just cranking multiplier.
And also ram need to be overclocked to 2000+ mhz.
Then FX thing is just shines, especially 6300/8300/8350/8370.
Like even today.
Gameone did video about this, but you need to watch it with subtitles (as video is in Russian language).
youtu. be / LdRUpaPfBpk (get rid of spaces).
Thats really interesting how fx could actually perform better with overclocked bus, ram and north bridge, without even uplifting core clock speed.
In a follow up I'm hoping to push this CPU to something like 4.8GHz on air, with maybe RAM set at 2400MHz CL10. Gonna need a much more capable board though
@@SPNG nonono!
In AMD FX processors, the weakest point is the memory subsystem.
Not the cores! The cores are already powerful by themselves, there is no need to overclock them above 4.2-4.4 GHz and torture the processor.
The processor's memory subsystem is connected through the north bridge. NB is very slow and is not even in the CPU itself. And if you overclock the CPU and memory, you will be left with a bottleneck in the form of the north bridge, which connects the CPU and memory.
That's why I strongly recommend overclocking the system with the BCLK system bus. It is set at 200 mhz and multiplied by 11 (I think) by default. You get 2200 mhz.
And you need a value around 240-260 to maximize the memory subsystem gain (2600+ mhz).
This is all explained in the video I posted. If you can't watch it with subtitles, I think there is information on the Internet why FX processors should not be overclocked all the way to the top, but should be played with overclocking the memory subsystem. (NB voltage, memory voltage and cpu voltage should be adjusted too, LLC should be disabled, as Cool'n'quiet and other unnecessary features). And remember - when you overclocking system bus - you also overclocking memory and CPU itself. So be careful with multipliers on cpu and memory.
Thanks for your attention. Advice from Russian overclockers who have been sitting on AMD FX for years (myself too, fx8350 2013-2019).
This is like problems with lga775 or newest intel 12/13 gen processors - when NB itself isn't on cpu and it could be really slow.
12-13 gen are stuttering in windows. Like really. Look it up on youtube. This is because those processors are using external north bridge it has such delays. Omg...
And lga775 has no point of installing ddr3 just because of slow north bridge. It could be done only in case of lack of ram capacity, not overall system speed. (Even if ddr3 is 1333 and ddr2 is just 800 at best).
And FX is suffering from this too. But in this case it could be actually resolved.
@@aokimikats wtf are you talking about>
I'm still using Phenom II X6 1065T on my 890FXA GD70 mainboard. Just bought FX 8350 and 990FXA-UD3 R5 mainboard combo for $51. I want to feel the max potential of AM3+ era PC. I paired it with 32GB RAM DDR3 1600 Mhz and RX 580 8 gigs. Many of my friends tell me that upgrade is big no and not even worth the money. But for me, at least i'm happy with it. So why not?
Great video. I stopped using this CPU when my 970A-DS3 died in pandemic. It was a really good companion back then with the good old HD 7870 XT. I swear I will find a good 990FX MB and woke this old beast up and also try some overclocking which I can't be able with the cheap 970A-DS3. And honestly I expected way more bottleneck but I am completely impressed :)
If you find a good deal on one I'd say go for it, these CPUs are fun to tune and test! And me too, I wasn't expecting it to get even close to keeping up with the 5700 XT, looking forward to trying it out with an overclock 👍
Gigabyte 970a-ud3p is your best bet
Great video. from my testing, the fx 6300 is okay, but in a comparison against an i5 2500 it still does worse, an i5 3570 would most probably wipe the floor with the 6300, adding to that the fact that they are pretty similarly priced on the used market, the 3570 is a much better choice, but neither are the best when it comes to new titles to be honest
I actually had a i5-3470 and it benched almost the same as my 8320e. 720 in cinebench with either.
My little workhorse. I didn't know anything about computers so I got a pre built with this and and a geforce 1060 in it in 2016. I mostly played older games so it was perfectly fine until I got into Tarkov.
I never been a fan of AMD but recently I have been building couple of retro systems with the "bulldozer" cpus might have to make a build with the FX 6300 as well
I built my first real custom build using this processor back in 2013 when i was still in highschool and it served me well till 2017 when i replaced it with an i7 7700 and it became my secondary PC till this year when i finally sold it a few weeks ago along with the i7 build and replaced them both with new Ryzen systems. Despite the hate the FX had,i was able to run anything while it was heavily used as my main PC and i think it still holds up acceptable today because games finally use the cores. Too bad the arhitecture is too old now otherwise they would have shined back in their day if most games and programs actually used more than 2-4 cores
hello and ty for the video, i would have loved the test in 1440p, and a brutal overclock would be awesome - i still have one, and i also have an asus 990fx tuf motherboard, i am now eager to check it out for myself :) ty again!
Glad you enjoyed 👍 I still want to do some overclocking with this chip but I've had some other projects get in the way and I still need to source a good enough board for it. I'm sure I'll get to it at some point, just not sure when.
Used to run my FX-6300 at 4.9ghz 1.57v paired with an Avexir 8gb kit at 1900mhz c10 paired with an XFX HD7950. Ran my games fine at that time without issues. Shame you didn't do the test with 2400mhz oc you mentioned.
Nice, would have been a pretty fast setup for the time! What did you have for CPU cooling? I'd imagine it took a lot to tame it at those settings. And don't worry, the overclocking fun will come in the follow up 👍Still working on getting the parts but it's definitely coming down the pipeline
@@SPNG Corsair H100i both four fans in push pull config running at 100%. Also I had it easy cause of my Asus CHV Formula.
If you plan to buy cheap FX CPU, it is better to go with 8300. Extra 2 cores (or one if you count that way 😁) would do a lot of difference in more modern games, especially in 1% and 0.1% lows. 8350 (and 8320) on the other hand is expensive and simply not worth the money.
Still got my FX 8350 it was my champion for 4 years before moving to a Ryzen 7 1700
lol FX 8300 is expensive af on ebay. but im so lucky i scored an FX 8350 for 22 bucks near me
@@someguywithmtndew5691 Well, on Aliexpress 8300 is bellow $30 , and 8350 is above $50. So you were lucky indeed 😁
SPNG : just a friendly advice. Your channel is extremely difficult to find in youtubes search by typing the name SPNG. Change it to smth else because youtube algorithm is defining it as an abbervation of a word.
And I still have an FX 8350 (running on stock clocks being cooled by the original Wraith 2015 cooler) and coupled with my KFA2 GTX 1080 EXOC 8GB it runs every modern game at 1080p Ultra (without AA) fluently and I love it for that 🤩
I’m in the process of building a pc Im putting the fx 6300 with a 1660ti so hopefully it goes smooth
I had a Phenom X6 1065T which was older but was a true hexa core because it had 6 FPU's.
always wanted to test one of those, i only got up to Phenom II X4
phenoms were better than the fx series.
@@GraveUypo actually the fx series was supposed to release in 2009 and 2010, but cane 2 years late, that's probably the reaaon it did so poorly, if it was release when it was supposed to, it would have been a much better CPU
I have a Phenom II X4 840T (a Thuban X6 with 2 cores disabled) which I've tried to unlock but unfortunately I've had no luck. I'd like to get my hands on a true X6 at some point though, would be interesting to test.
Honestly I'd only use an FX CPU for a legacy multi boot system running windows xp 64, windows 7 and windows 10.
At that point only the FX 8350 is reasonable to use with modern games in windows 10.
For a higher end FX build I'd run a GTX 970, 980, 980ti or Titan on the Nvidia side and for amd the r9 290/x maybe the rx 480/580. I'd still say Nvidia will be better for cross compatibility from xp64 to win10.
As for ram speed I'm pretty sure it can be set to run different ram speed, timings and latency for each operating system.
To my recollection, the fx 6xxx and 8xxx really liked 1866mhz CL9 ram.
I have a silicon lottery 5.2 Ghz 6350 on water with a rx 480 that still runs mostly everything. its on a 990 FXA board which still fetches a heavy price used. The kids us it mostly cuz I don't want them using my rig. :)
Using one, been playing old game and WoW, GW2 etc recently
There was a China only FX-4200, this is a genuine quad core design featuring 1 core per module so no components are shared, its the best example of what FX could have been capable of if this was continued, it is the gem of the FX lineup. I have the same mystery Adata ram that i haven't been able to find out the vendor, mine too does 2400Mhz 1.65V but needs heatsinks.
Had no idea that was a thing! I want one now... could be interesting to test it against a comparable i5 of the time to see how it would stack up, I'd imagine floating point performance in particular would be much improved since it has 4 FPUs. Interesting you have the same RAM as well, I got my kit extremely cheap a few years ago and can be pretty decent with some tuning!
Edit: It seems like that FX 4200 has a 125W TDP, oddly high for a quad core. With that I'd speculate it was originally an 8-core Bulldozer CPU maybe with 1 core disabled in each module?
@@SPNG Yup, used to run that memory with an athlon 880K at 4.4ghz on a cheap gigabyte board with a 3+1 design, though the board degraded since i used to be able to get 4.7 however overclocking the ram improved the 0.1% lows, fast ram with FX and fm2 platforms is a must to improve the frametimes, i need to get one myself along with a pentium e6500K, the first unlocked pentium dual core! based on the e5800 which e5200 cores were harvested from and known to clock well. on the cheap being based on mobile penryn core known as wolfdale. little gems that could make for a good video for you those 2 chips, very little on them :) maybe a 3570K vs FX-4200 and 6500K vs i5 6500k as a giggle, kinda like the A series 7700 APU vs an i7 7700 but a 6500k vs G3258 would be fun too..i should set up a channel with all these ideas but im sure you could do it better!
Isn't the FX-4200 just a slightly higher clocked FX-4100? why is it a "gem". All FX chips have share modules for all i know.
@@Skrubmeister my comment explains it..its the only fx chip without a shared module design, genuine 4 core design. But it was a quiet china only release.
The PC I built back in 2014 has this chip. I'm going to swap the GPU for my family PC for $165 (for light gaming) instead of opting for a brand-new build.
In my experience back in the day the fx6300 has some major performance issues compare to the 8core versions. Back in mid 2016 an fx8300 was 10-20$ cheaper than a core i3 4130 in stores.
@@chloedevereaux1801that's not actually true. People got the wrong idea because of how the chips were designed, but they did remain true 6/8 core CPUs.
@@chloedevereaux1801 Depends on what you consider a core. They did have 8 or 6 cores but shared common resources like an FPU.
My 1155 mobo died so i sold my 2500k for 30 euro and got whole PC with FX 8320 for 60 euro.Only difference i noticed that in Witcher 3 FX 8320 is not only faster but much smoother.Both on stock i never OC anything.For retro gaming OC is not worth it.
still new to pc and i think my problem is i only have 8gb of ram and just need to get more ram.
my friend used fx 6100 for few months and he had terrible experience with it as some games had massive stutters, problems disapeared once he changed to i7 3770
Do you always use latest official bios?
Im still using an 990x FX-8350 on 4.4Ghz airflow. Its a really good platform, im a fan of it but… I m selling it. I can make a newer and cheaper AM4 config which performs better than this. And I feel that nowadays game are not running really good in 1080p. Simply, this cpu aging very good but you can see that its 12 years old.
I play retail wow with a FX 6300 and a 1050ti with no issues, 10 yo build from my college days . I know nothing about computers and im pretty sure wow is most dependent on read write speeds on the harddrive?
Somone correct me.
I wonder how it performs against the AMD Phenom II 1100T 6 core CPU that’s the best Phenom.
FX will out game any pii but will be behind in rendering to the 6core pii for example
What's your most power rig right now?
It's not fast, but I think I'm surprised at how well the FX 6300 does. I have a friend who still uses an FX 8350 paired with a GTX 760 though he doesn't really play newer PC games; he mostly plays games on console. I think the newest games he plays are Humankind and Chivalry 2. I don't know how well they play on there though.
It certainly impressed me here, I was expecting a lot of these titles to be a slideshow on here but these results were a pleasant surprise! I want to get a better board to see what it can do with an overclock, would probably fare even better
Funny that i picked up both the fx 6300 and the i7 2700k together. Unfortunately my am3 board and cooler is bad so i doubt i can get much overclocking
You could probably get a little bit more out of it, even on this super cheapo board I can do some slight overclocks. If not, undervolting wouldn't be bad to keep heat down!
@SPNG I just got a $20 thermaltake cooler and brought it up to 4.1ghz. Unfortunately it's still very slow but at least it's noticeably better than stock performance. Either way I think it can sell for more than I paid for it
The biggest issue with the FX lineup is the false advertisement of these chips. The 4100 and 4300 were actually dual cores, the 6100 and 6300 were triple core, the 8100, 8300, 8350, 8370, and the 9590 were quad core. Somehow AMD managed to get away with advertising each chip as quad core, six core, and eight core when they accounted multi-threading.
Except that’s not true either.
They clearly aren’t CPUs with HT/SMT.
A FX 6300 isn’t a 3 core and 6 thread. It literally has 6 cores.
The best way to explain it is a 3 module cpu with each module having 2 cores.
While calling them true 4/6/8 core CPUs is up for debate, your explanation is just 100% wrong.
Calling them shit trash garbage CPUs with gimped cores is a better explanation
This is correct 👆 Except I don't know if I would agree with your other explanation, I wouldn't say they're THAT bad 😆
@@SPNG hey, I could have gone with the other method of describing these CPUs
Are conjoined twins one person? Or 2?
HT/SMT is like hiring one employee and giving them 2 monitors.
FX cpu core design is like hiring a pair of conjoined twins
time to revive my fx 6300
Almost every time you use a minitx motherboard the gpu ends up being bigger 😂😂😂
I laughed the first time I put my 5700 XT on this board 😆It looks so out of place, completely dwarfs it
What is the top best 3 gpu's I can pair this decent fx 6300?
Depends on games and res and settings etc, but I'd have no problem combining them with any GCN based gpu and upto a 980ti/1070 IF you like 2160p or 1440p at 60hz
Got a couple of decent boards here if your after one, im in the uk though
Hah its all good man. I have some other projects getting in the way, but I'll keep an eye out for boards on the used market. I'm sure I'll find something, I'd love to start tuning this chip 😄
I have fx 6300 and gtx 1050 ti still works perfectly but with stock clocks if i overclock it it gives blue screens.
I just got the same setup in a trade. I have been a long time Intel user so I am watching video to know what to expect.
@@Hughesburner I recently upgraded to i5 12400f it's significant performance improvement.
@@dipakgosain I bet, I had a 9th gen system for awhile, running a 4th gen dell XPS w/a 1650S a my gaming machine right now, most of the games I play are 2009-2015. I live in a town with a Intel factory, I used to work there and still have friends that do, so parts are easy to come by. I usually take the left overs from my one friend that works there, he buys the best of whatever is out, every few years.
The FX-6300 system, I got in a trade a few days ago, I traded an old laptop for it. Aside from a Ryzen 2600, I have never had a AMD Cpu before.
@@Hughesburner that's great!
well i do think games are kind of cherrypicked, except for cyberpunk i'd say that there is no game as demanding here... there are no 2023 tittles, and GTAV its just a 2015 game... a game of the era in which Fx cpus were aging but still on sell brand new. In fact, it was only in 2017 the 1st gen Ryzen replaced the 7yr run of the Fx (Bulldozer and Vishera) CPUs
back into fx6300, the six-core CPU wasn't that good at stock, but had a huge OC potential, so it was a very good bargain to buy it with a 970 board and a Hyper 212, and made it 4.3/4.5ghz which was very doable at safe temps if half decent case cooling was in the mix. That way Fx6300 was superior to 2nd/3rd gen i3 and near low tier i5 in games, but on pair with i5 on some productivity tasks.
That being said, the Fx cpus didn't do well on Dx11 games, ever, so by 2016 when Vulkan and Dx12 started to became mainstream, the AMD cpus gained kind of a new life as valuable 2nd tier budget CPUs for the used market...
But now in 2024... i think that ship has sailed... you can't really expect for an Fx6300 to handle a GPU better than a 1050Ti without a lot of bottleneck except on cherrypicked games. At this point the only realistic Fx cpu able to handle some decent gaming is Fx8350/8370 (and the rare and dumb Fx9370 and Fx9590) that can be paired (with some struggle) with GPUs in the order of a GTX 1060 6gb or Rx 580 8gb (but more realistic would be the Rx570 insted).
I know it since i had my Fx8350 with an Rx 570 4gb (which was replaced at march 2023 with an Rx 580 4gb) and 16gb of ram as main rig since 2017 (originally purchased in 2016 with an R7 370 4gb) up to feb. 2024. So i know in detail how much the Fx8350 barely hold with an Rx 580 using all its 8 cores at 4.0ghz, which was aliviated the times i OCd it to 4.4ghz (good improvement but not worth the risk).
So... to all looking at an Fx 6300... yes... it will serve you well as an improved ofimatic CPU (way better than Phenoms, Celerons, Pentiums i3 and AMD APUS of the DDR3 era) that might allow some pro-user features like a lot of tabs in Chrome and multitasking... that will allow for modest gaming purposes (some indy, older and MOBA games will run fine with a GTX1050ti) and able to get some upgradepath (Fx8350) but don't expect it to compete with anything in the Ryzen lineup... and by the time an R3 1200 enters the debate with a DDR4 mobo with more modern features like PCIE-3, maybe nvme m.2 slot and the upgrade path for up to Ryzen 5000.. there's no point in this Fx cpu (or anyone to be honest) no matter the prize, since a 1st gen low tier Ryzen with an A320 or even B350 mobo its quite cheap this days
Games are definitely something I'm gonna work on for the next video. I want to get ahold of a really proper suite but new games are expensive 😅 It's the main thing stopping me from doing the follow up video. Gonna be taking a look at a bit more than the FX 6300 as well, you may be surprised 👀 The point wasn't to suggest this CPU as a viable budget option for modern games, rather if someone is still hanging onto them these days maybe they should consider waiting a little longer before an upgrade. I still think these CPUs do better than most people think.
In isolation, it looks pretty impressive, but when you put things into context and realize you're getting RX 480 level of performance out of that 5700XT then you realize how not good those FX CPUs are
RX 480 performance is a bit pessimistic to say the least 😅You're not going to be getting close to 50 fps in RDR2 at 1080p Ultra with an RX 480. I think it's more of a mixed bag and really depends on the game, some see the both the FX 6300 and 5700 XT at high utilization and some will not. I'm not saying the 5700 XT is the perfect pairing for a CPU like this, but it can definitely drive a more powerful GPU than an RX 480.
@@SPNG If you have the means, you could make a video on how high can you go GPU wise before the fps benefits stop. But I'm pretty sure the limit is somewhere between the RX 480/580 and the GTX 1070, since you're right about your RDR2 example.
Cheers 😄
My old ryzen 1300x was able to run gta 5 at 60 fps with an rx 570 which is half as powerful as your 5700 but red dead 2 is probably better on yours but I don't have it. Assassins creed odysee really struggled on my cpu back then so I got a ryzen 5600 which is much better.
Yeah Ryzen mops the floor with FX.
@@FSPersonalAcct so true
My actual pc cpu
it’s terrible right? my shit makes me want to break it
Hah nice, what graphics card do you have with it?
I had FX4350 back in the time and it wasn't a great CPU. Ryzen much better
How could FX STILL have it, if it never had anything to begin with? Except shitty thermals I guess.
The fx6300 was one of the worst chips I ever owned. I genuinely felt like my performance in games doubled when I swapped to an i5 4460 a bit later.
Back then it was true. But not nowadays.
Interesting 🤔For what its worth I'd say it doesn't do too badly at least in this suite, I'm sure a 4460 would be better here but probably not by that margin.
I also had bad expirance with AMD FX, becasue I had Core 2 Quad Q9600 and I have swiched to FX4350 in 2014 and difference
wasn't that big, so in 2017 I bought Ryzen 3 1200 (and OC to 4GHz) and that thing was quite good. In 2020 I bought Ryzen 9 3900X on a sale and it is AMAZING
it had a lukewarm reception because it's garbage. put a i5 2500k there and you'll get massive improvements.
Would perform a lot better but a 2500K plus a P67 or Z68 motherboard for tuning would have cost a good chunk of change more as well. If you had more to spend the 2500K definitely would have been the CPU to get but compared to its price comparable i3 3220 I assume the FX 6300 would have been a better buy in the long run with the extra threads.
@@SPNG AMD FX used are overprice because people look at specs and think 6 or 8 cores? it is like Ryzen 5 or 7 so used FX 8100 costs 100$ and i5-2400 25$ or i7-2600 is for 50$. Anyway even Ryzen 3 3100 is much faster
@@ALPHABYTE1994I think he was talking about when the CPUs were new back in the day. Not now, on the user market. Of course, pretty much any i5 or i7 from that era will blow that FX chip out of the water, and buying an FX used today is utterly pointless.
@@Johnnybomb1 ok
At the time of release the 8300 cost was comparable to the locked i5. An unlocked 2500k was $225 bro.
Hi bro, pls notice
👀
@@SPNG wyd bro
@@SPNG any recommendations for a great gpu under 500$, of amd
@@SPNG and a good webcam, if you do, of 1080p 60fps?
@@Milwalkereal I mean this is definitely subject to change but as of July 2023 the RX 6700 XT (or 6750 XT maybe) offers excellent performance for under $400, it's a much better bang for your buck than the RX 7600 at least.
even Ryzen 3 is much better so ....
1600 watt psu? LOL That's overkill for a top-of-the-line computer much less this POS processor.
It has become my standard bench PSU. I've even used it for setups with
fx was the biggest mistake any of us ever made.
I daily drove this FX for a while a fair few years back, with a GTX 780 it wasn't that bad to be honest. I certainly could have done worse, like Bulldozer 😬 At least this chip was cheap too
it's only worth it for Windows XP retro gaming! it was terrible even with Windows 7 and i have a FX 8350 to prove how terrible it was with any Windows newer than XP for any AMD FX CPU u had better luck with AMD FX than i ever will have
For what its worth, my experience with this CPU wasn't terrible. I was surprised it could keep the 5700 XT fed at all, even if it was only in a few games. I'm sure this would be a pretty great retro CPU though, I gotta load up XP on it sometime.
Very annoying unclear pronouncing of written speech text. I can't watch this past 02:32 anymore. Unsubscribed!
??? What did he say unclearly? And what got you so pressed by human speech?
Elaborate
yea, maybe it was said a bit unclearly, but just change speakers or go to the doctor man
Rx 5700 xt is far from a powerful gpu. Rtx 2080 ti utterly destroys it
This may be true but the 2080Ti is worse value. It was a terrible value when it hit the market, and it's still a terrible value today. The RX 5700 XT is a very powerful graphics card, for you to suggest otherwise shows your lack of knowledge about computer hardware and your pertinence to brand shilling.
Also costs twice as much 😵
@@SPNG lmao Nvidia strikes again with awful value for money.
@@FSPersonalAcct keep coping, 2080ti vastly outpreforms the 5700xt, even the 2070 super is better
@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 I agree, but not with price to performance. I don't need to cope, I work with these materials every day for a living. The 2080Ti, 2070, etc, are great cards, but are way overpriced.