What I find so interesting is why so many people who identify themselves as LGBT seem to NEED the appoval of other people. To me it's a sign that deep down in their heart of hearts they know they are living in sin. Because when you truly believe what you are doing/believing is morally right, you don't care what others think. I am a Christian and I love Jesus and a LOT of people dont approve or agree with my beliefs, but I don't care. Because I know it's right. I don't need the approval of others. I don't cut off relationships with my family members just because they disagree with me and my beliefs. So why is it that so many LGBT people can't seem to do that? That even when someone says, look I love you, but I don't agree with you they become so angry and will cut others off? If you truly know and believe what you are doing is right, you don't need validation from others. Only those doing something they know is wrong have almost a desperate need for their choices to be affirmed and validated. Because humans are always looking for ways to justify our sins.
Actually they just want to be able to safely and openly be themselves. You have to remember that for the better part of 2000 years folks like you used to lynch LGBT people and even in the past decade people like you have attempted to diminish LGBT freedoms over religious beliefs. Not you specifically.
Spot on comments, Bunny. Just seeing all of the emotional responses and name calling on this thread from those who are living in or supporting homosexuality speaks volumes to me. It's nearly impossible to have an adult conversation with them. Two close relatives of mine in this homosexual lifestyle are the same way. Feelings and emotions drive them. Truth and logic don't matter.
Some people do think love means approval or affirmation, even if they don't say it. But that's not the only mix up I see happening. Some think being kind is to be nice. They're very different. Nice requires you to be pleasant or agreeable. Basically, it's the surface. Being kind goes deeper. It requires that you care.
@@moralityIsHard Do you even understand what "reasoning" means? What is actually absent is the deity you all worship and obey. Instead, what is present is your obsequence to a book.
Yet you'll notice that this approval, affirmation, pleasantness, and agreeableness never applies to the homosexuals in relation to their family members that disagree with them. Demanding agreement on any issue or there will be "trouble" (or an end to the relationship) is emotional abuse. It should be treated as such (that means you shun the abuser).
There's nothing loving about affirming anyone's sin. The loving thing to do is warn them about the consequences of sin and why we all ought to live how God ordered us to live. Affirming sin is rejecting God.
A word of encouragement.... You may not have lost her. Rather, your talk may have been the first step on a journey of her coming back to the truth. Sometimes the pathway is not direct. It may take a long time and she may walk through many dark paths before coming back.... but your talk and the power of God's word may be the thing that started her on the path. I think of the Prodigal Son in times like these. No doubt there were many times when someone called out his wayward lifestyle, but he wasn't ready to listen yet. But once he hit rock bottom, then the message got through. Your message may not affect your niece now, but in time, it may be the words that lead her back home. Blessings!
To the guy who asked this question: I went through the exact same situation with my sister a few years ago. She is a practicing homosexual, living with her partner in another state. She'd constantly bring up how wonderful everything in their relationship is and future plans their making. I'm married with a daughter and she would ask if I would put her on a plane for her to spend some time together over the summer. It got to a point where I could no longer keep silent. I started the conversation saying that I need to talk to her and expressed endlessly how much I love and value her. Once that was out of the way, I told her the truth, which is: I don't agree, because God doesn't agree. It was a hard, tearful conversation but one that definitely needed to be had. Delivery is key but if your sister loves you even close as much as you love her, she'll accept it even if she doesn't agree and continue to love you too, even if it may be from a distance for a while. Feeling the tension in my relationship with God bc my silence and the tension bw essentially lying to my sister, watching her walk her way to hell was too much. Praying you find the grace to speak the truth in love and for both of your hearts to give and receive said truth❤
The hate spewing christian strikes again. Your imaginary friend is more important to you than your own sister. Well your sister is better off without you. Hopefully your daughter will avoid your depravity and grow up to realize her aunt is just another person.
What makes you think you speak for God? If you don't like the fact she's gay, own up and tell her that. Take responsibility for your opinions rather than blaming it on God.
@knotsew5490 The “they are born that way” doctrine has been debunked. It was introduced by a child abuser who molested babies, toddlers, and children to validate his research. The concept is disgusting, and what is more disgusting is the alphabet people still cite his research to this day. It is a choice to be gay; it is not like having red hair. You are a victim of flawed research and false equivalency.
@knotsew5490 Indeed. And delighting in tearing families apart in the name of a doctrine is cruel, inhumane, and everything wrong with a society poisoned by religion.
@@antitheistsuperstition What about the alphabet doctrine? If you presume LGBTQTY6 is not a religion, then you are not very intelligent. The only difference is that the god they serve is themselves.
As an ex bisexual i want to say something to people who are in that kind of situation: My mom never gave up on me! You have to pray for your loved ones and show them the love of Christ. You have to tell them the truth but also be wise what they can unterstand in the Moment. I tell you there is hope. I was an atheist, femenist, bisexuell, criminal and always on drugs. I gave my life to Jesus Christ in 2019 and i pray my and your loved ones will too 🙏🏻 (i am from germany so please excuse my writing)
>always on drugs So you are an addict that swapped one addiction for another, because religion is very much a drug. Then again looking at the crappy spelling and liberal use of every boogie-man word Christianity has except woke, this post reads a complete bull💩. Next time don't lay it on so thick. 🤣🤣🤣
@knotsew5490 why is it a poor way to do it? Really it's the only way. Without religion, people will do sinful things because it feels good. And there's nothing telling us we can't do it other than manmade laws and rules. Laws and rules that hold no merit because it's manmade.
@knotsew5490 my point is. Without God's law people are free to do anything. Literally anything. There's nothing to tell us what's right and what's wrong.
@@albaraka7519 it's not his God, my God, your God or their God. It's the only God(our God) or if you don't like that term; we can say the Creator, feel better pal?
@@albaraka7519 hmm...you must be new. That's all hes done for the last several years. People are free to ignore him, though. The intolerance of sin is also perfectly clear in the Bible. However the person can still be loved. We are all sinners anyway. This is not all that difficult.
@@dmironyuk I'm an atheist and don't believe in any god. And FYI you only validated my point. Frank like you makes many claims about a god but doesn't provide testable evidence to show this god is real and thereby validate his claims. Which makes those claims and the intolerance around them silly. "feel better pal?". Yup. You proved me right. So thanks I guess.
@@akevy8 "hmm...you must be new." Nope. "That's all hes done for the last several years." Then he is a failure for the last several years. "The intolerance of sin is also perfectly clear in the Bible." And how did you confirm what the bible says is true? How did you confirm a god to be real? You don't get to just presume it is true you need to demonstrate it is true via testable evidence. "This is not all that difficult." No, it isn't.
@@mjb7677 Yup, even for an atheist. There's no logical argument to suggest otherwise. You should just say “I feel” beforere your statements. All that postmodern/post-truth nonsense has been invalidated. Moreover, atheists love evolution, and that has also been debunked. Bacteria cannot become a human regardless of the time. Sorry, I crushed your worldview. A little critical thought goes a long way.
Thank you, Frank. In the past, I chose to say nothing when I saw sin in someone's life because I thought, I'm a sinner. You explain a good way to approach hard topics.
@@armsracer8273 All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. I am a sinner and so is everyone else. But Jesus Christ paid the price and now I'm justified by His grace (Just if I'd) didn't sin.
Please don't, as an atheist whose brother recently confronted me about religion, nothing hurts more than realizing a family member has been reduced to such low levels by their evil and cruel religion.
So as an atheist, I don't have to accept this harmful religious nonsense? That's refreshing. Now, get this rubbish off the internet and you'll have my respect.
@@mjb7677 And this is where we disagree. Homosexual behavior is absolutely a choice and that is the sin. I personally know Christians who struggle with same-sex attraction, but they do not engage in sinful behavior and take their thoughts and desires to the Lord for help. And it's the same for Christians who are single and struggle with lust or the desire to fornicate. Or married people who may struggle with pornography or the desire to commit adultery. Sexual immorality/sin exists for all of us. We are all supposed to flee from it. We are all responsible for our actions.
@@bunny_0288 Stop being obtuse. Who would know better than a gay man who was born this way? You cannot have an opinion on my life as you have never lived my life and don't reside inside of me. I am not equal to you in any way. I am a separate, distinct, and unique person. It is the height of arrogance and hubris to think you know anyone but yourself. Those Christians you reference have engaged in homosexuality and have not told you out of fear of being judged. You are either willfully blind or simply naïve. I will agree that we are responsible for our actions but I will never agree that being who I am is a sin because it is simply not a sin. God knew me before I was born and knew I was going to be gay. He is either a kid with an ant farm and a magnifying glass causing suffering or he is simply a kid with an ant farm... which is it?
Love is putting someone else's needs above yours. The trick is determining what their need is. My friend gets angry when I bring up his smoking. His need is not me being supportive of his smoking but of apposing it... come what may.
@@D-Bunker-zv1bjwhat make you think so? Some studies suggest that you can trace whether people are more likely to get addicted to drugs based on their genes. Yet those same studies show that despite some people have genes where they are more likely to get addicted to drugs, yet drug users while there are so many of them, don't account for half of humans population, what does it mean? It means everything is a choice.
@@D-Bunker-zv1bjHypothalmus is not fully developed during the perinatal stage of development, so not possible to be attracted to anything at that stage.
@@D-Bunker-zv1bj It's a choice that you grow into. Clearly, infants and toddlers are not heterosexual or homosexual in action. However, their bodies are made heterosexual in nature.
@@dansaber5853that is purely your personal belief and interpretation. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 in the Old Testament, and Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 in the New Testament. You cannot willingly live for something that opposes the kingdom of God.
It comes down to who and what you really believe and why. If God is our God and His word is true then we must speak the truth. The world does not compromise with God and God does not compromise with the world. We shouldn't either.
Ive lost my sister through this. I stood firm and she now resents me and my family. We tried church, counseling, and compassion. She made up her mind and left, but I love her too much to stay silent .
Another relationship destroyed by religious nonsense. Why would anyone want to keep you in their life if you don't want to accept them in your life as they are? If you don't forgive them despite how you personally feel about them, then your religious mind is the problem. You've become an unforgiving bigot who doesn't deserve to be loved.
You were a fool and destroyed the relationship. We tried... for what end, your end, your worldview. Your hatred made her leave... She did the only thing she could do. You are simply a horrible person.
If your sister requires you to violate your beliefs to maintain relationship with her, she's emotionally abusing you and not doing anything to preserve the relationship, so maybe let the relationship go.
No you are the mental abuser. What she is has nothing to do with him and does not require his permission. He can accept her for what she is or he can lose a sister. His beliefs have nothing to do with anything, except his own personal malfunction of hate.
@@brianpeterson3884 Gender studies. They flunked me when I told them that Ellen Page was just a medically-mutilated, pharmacological-lee fouled-up chick. 😉
I think it’s easy for people to say what is the obvious thing that they would do and what not. But I speak from experience when I say I know how that brother feels. I have a very similar thing going on and I grew up in a broken home. And now that my sister live together for the first time after ten years, it’s sad to realize that we don’t connect deeply anymore. And it’s because of God. And it is worth it to not bend my convictions and my personality that has changed bcuz of God, just to make her feel comfortable. It is sad but people who experience this understand that it DOES take courage to deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow Jesus. What has given me the courage is knowing that God is REAL! And I have a personal relationship with Him thank God. I pray for those struggling in this situation 🙏 Gods way is not always easy but it is the best way (preaching to myself as well)
No you aren't bearing a cross, you're just hateful to your sister. Destroying your relationship with your daughter because the hate of 2000 year dead heathen is more important to you.
I can feel the disdain from my own family and friends (some are catholic and some are atheists) that's why it's vital you join a church and fellowship with others who understand the price you pay for following Christ.
@@MarvelGamer2023 Just curious...what makes you think you were a protestant before? How did you go from living by faith alone to believing in purgatory, the rosary, eucharist, praying to the dead and statues, the pope, exalting Mary....which none are Biblical ? I'm not attacking you, I'm just trying to understand as someone who was born in a catholic home but once I read the Bible by myself, I found many unbiblical doctrines.
@@kaboom9081You mean believe in the things almost all Christians believed in until Luther came along and preached made-up novelties like sola scriptura and sola fide? And threw out 7 books of the Old Testament, some of which include scripture that contradicts his novel theology? By the way, you mischaracterize several Catholic beliefs in your comment...
This is one of the big trials of our time . . . trying to navigate this within our families. I would also point out that Jesus would tell people the truth, and then allow them to choose. If people have stopped listening to us, all the preaching and warning in the world is pointless. We love them and let them know we're always there for them, and we do our best to stand with the Lord.
@@rikuswehmeyer6118 Except he did. It's in the Old Testament and New Testament. The “Jesus said” argument is weak and easily refuted. You should probably find another argument if you want people to take you seriously 😂.
I think the thing that hurts my soul the most is seeing how many Christian homes are being affected by this -- so many generations will be lost as people pursue a lifestyle that has no future lineage. Satan has truly won in that regard and it's so sad.
@knotsew5490 Family is important here on Earth, but what truly matters is eternity. Because Jesus died for my sins and I have a relationship with God, it is more important that I honor Him than appease my family. If my family members are living a life that is incompatible with a relationship with God, I need to make sure they understand they are in need of a Savior. I may not be able to change them myself, but I can plant the seed. And, yes, there is harm in homosexual behaviors and relationships. Harm is not limited to the physical.
One of the hardest lessons most Christians have to learn is the idea that, in the face of God's everlasting truth, real love demands sacrifice of us. I wish this young man good fortune, because having that conversation with his sister may very well be one of the hardest things he'll ever have to do.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 From an insider's perspective, idk that there's any way I could convey our POV. Dr. Turek did a good job of covering it in the video. Love is important, especially when it's hard, and when you see a person going down a bad path, it's not loving to just say nothing and let them go. It's like how any good parent protects their child from danger by not allowing certain things, as highlighted in the video. Incidentally, if it wasn't partially about the people, the bible would never say love one another, just as I have loved you.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930if any Christian says they have no sin they are lying. Don’t loop all of into group because there are a lot of “Christians” out there that are not Christians. You will know them by their “fruit” aka their character qualities. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and self control to name a few. The difference between and true Genuine believers in Christ is that the goal of the believers life is to conform yourself closer and closer to the character of Jesus and that involves a life style change and trying to sin less and less. And yes a person can truly sin less and less. They will never reach complete sinless of course. If a person calls themselves and believer and you can look back at their life 5 years ago and they are still doing the same ole stuff. They probably are not a true believer. I don’t disagree with you we all sin but the difference is are you trying to sin less and less or are you continuing in your sin and doing nothing about it? Once are person comes to faith in Jesus Christ you are under mercy when you slip up Jesus is the mediator and continues to help you as long as your recognize your sin and take responsibility for it.
I was thinking about this. If the brother/sister relationship was well founded, 'the conversation' is redundant. She should have already known her brothers view point and how he came to hold it. Is it not she that has driven the wedge in by making her choices?
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I agree, no person on earth is truly worthy of Christ's sacrifice or God's mercy, it's only because of their grace and love that we are. The most hardened criminal in the world is really no different than your average law abiding citizen, in that way.
@@harryfaberI mean if the relationship is important and she knows how deep his faith is, I wouldn't say it's redundant. No one's a mind reader, and if she herself doesn't have a deep faith, she wouldn't necessarily know where he's coming from in wanting to talk to her about her relationship.
If we confront every family member when we see them about their spiritual delinquencies we would alienate them and the enemy would secure his hold on them even tighter. Jesus did not stop at everyone He met to tell them the truth about their condition. This is the problem with standard Christianity (and btw, I'm a pastor of 41 years), they, without an opening, tell everyone around them about their failings and when rejected they claim that they're suffering for the message of the cross. Before Jesus ever spoke one word to the lost, He proved that He loved them unconditionally, no matter what their condition. THEN, as love broke the door down and the Holy Spirit created an opening, you talk to them about their condition and situation.
One would expect in this instance, though, that as a loving brother, he's had years to build relationship prior to speaking with her about the subject.
@brianpeterson8908 Yes, it's better for me to be chained to God than to be in the world and think I am free. In Christ, there is true freedom. And I hope that you come to the truth.
@@strykervirus1724 That is gibberish. You are chained to your mental illness called religion, trying to appease an imaginary god no one can agree on what it even wants. Brainwashed to obey your masters claiming to know the wants of an imaginary being is enslaved.
@@SlottedSteve judging doesn't mean not calling out sin; if you know the truth God holds you accountable for telling others. Judging means like: "you're going to hell because you're gay, leave me alone". Leading by example is def #1, but you gotta make the truth clear so that they can link it with your lifestyle that backs it up. If I'm being harsh I'm speaking it myself as well haha, but yeah. Continue leading by example, but make sure you tell them (the truth in love [Ephesians 4:15]) so that they can link the lifestyle you live with the truths you preach.
@@kdavis6722 agreed. Sometimes leading by example is not enough. Think about a worldly constraint like not driving while drunk. I can drive sober all day, but at some point you need a police officer to set up a sobriety check to catch the drunks. Just so with the Christian lifestyle. I think where we often fail is we try to judge those OUTSIDE the church. That's God's business. We are called to judge those INSIDE the church. The people who claim the label of "follower of Christ" but whose lifestyle doesn't match it are our business. For example, if I heard my brother in Christ talk about his secret extramarital affair and I said nothing but just "lived by example" not cheating on my wife.... well.... I'm accountable for not calling him to repentance. Eventually his wife will likely find out, and they will probably divorce. I would bear some of the guilt from that.
Because not everyone believes in "sin"… it’s a religious concept. People who aren’t religious see things that harm other people as wrong and things that don’t harm others fine. That’s why other "sins" such as murdering are also seen as wrong by non religious ppl. That’s why some ppl would not support murderers or rapists but may support homosexuality.
This same scenario happened in my family with my cousin. Sadly, at the time, I was more concerned about preserving the relationship than honoring God. Outwardly, I spoke as if I was in support, not wanting her to feel like another person was judging her, but inwardly I knew what God had said in His word. When I came to my senses about my hypocrisy (meaning not speaking and acting in accordance with what I believed), I acknowledged my mistake and sought forgiveness. Unfortunately, the relationship with my cousin is lost and my punishment is just. I share this because standing firm on the word of God when it means standing in opposition of someone you love is very difficult. But, you are never wrong for obeying God. Honesty is love. Supporting acts that separate a person from God is about a self preservation, not wanting others to be angry with us. Remember: ”Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses.“ Proverbs 27:6 NIV ”For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.“ Matthew 16:25 NIV
So which Bible verse are you using to justify that female homosexuality is considered the same as that in Leviticus 20: 13? Because if you do consider them to be the same, I hope you told your cousin that you wanted them to be put to death, you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite after all.
@@drillyourarguments Quack? Quack is medical, so brainwashed you can't even keep your insults straight. Lustful Godless Belligerent 😂😂😂 Sucks to be you!
Thank you, Father God ✝️ 🛐 and Pastor Frank Turek Amen! John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Psalm 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions. Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, 1 Corinthians 16:14 Let all your things be done with love. John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. Genesis 1:26-27 [26]Truth. I praying God go before you Open her eyes and heart to understand. Receive. And binding the enemy from her reasoning in her mind. I 🙏🏻. Matt 18:18.
Amen! Ephesians 4:15 15 Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, 1 Corinthians 1:18 18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. I have some family members who are under this demonic deception culture influence. May they come to the knowledge of the Truth and be set free!!
It is truly horrible what kind of harm come out of the belief in an authority based morality and the idea that all immoralities deserve the highest punishment, from the ones that harm noone to the ones that harmed millions. All equal in the eye of that authority. If the best reason one has to condemn something as wrong is "this authority said so", especially when they can't even show that authority to exist, then they really have no reason whatsoever.
Frank nor the people in comments have said to harm people we/they disagree with. What is wrong about people having different belief systems? Do you have the moral high ground?
@@drillyourarguments It wasn't an argument. It was a statement. Only my second paragraph could be considered an argument. Did you just use the word "humanistic" in a negative way? "lust supporting claims" elaborate.
Christians think that people who love people of the same sex do so simply out of lust and can’t understand actual love. Homosexual love harms nobody and Christian’s use gods commandments as a platform to support their bigotry and hate. There is no logic behind their claims. Truely disgusting
I think this response needs to be tempered with this scripture from 1Peter. 1Pet. 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect... This scripture clearly says unless you are asked- keep your mouth shut. Let your lifestyle and your LOVE for your neighbor [gay neighbors included] speak eloquently. And if your asked about your thoughts on a Gay lifestyle then you express the Biblical teaching in respect of the person to whom your speaking and with gentleness.
This is much easier said than done. I've tried to tell my family but they don't believe me and they say that we don't know for sure. They tell me not to shove my "religion" down their throats, it ends up turing people away from Christ instead of towards Him. There has to be a way to get through to people so that they actually take you seriously. Ugh so frustrating 🙄
@@janna4994Yes, if you're feeling apprehensive about stepping too close to converting someone, then it's best to step back and just pray about it. It's super hard (and much easier to write than to do), but sometimes it's also important to pray for the strength so that we can be bold enough to say what we need to say to those who need it said to them.
You have an impossible task. If the people that you are speaking to ask for evidence that what you are saying is true, you need to face the reality that you have virtually nothing except the appalling epistemology of Hebrews 11: 1 faith. That might be sufficient for you but it's not going to be convincing to anyone who isn't indoctrinated.
This reminds me of Lot. Despite being a righteous man, he still cares for his sinful family and wanted to escape Sodom with them. The sister is an adult and already made the decision. Best is to pray for her and hope for the best. 🙏
"Therefore, a man shall leave his father and his mother, and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh" (Genesis 2:24). "to his wife" (b'ishto in Hebrew, which is feminine), but not to another male.
@@johnharrison6745 Bad news they also had male lovers besides multiple wives. Only prohibition was pedophilia. And there was no prohibition either against lesbians. Many husbands enjoyed a show by their wives. 🤣🤣🤣
Love the sinner hate the sin never embrace there lifestyle but make yourself open when they question it..people always come to a point weather it be sexual immorality or addiction they question the fruits of there choices cause sin and self destructive behavior never leads to a peaceful fulfilling life there's always that voice that whispers there's something about what there doing
@@brianpeterson8908 Actually, you're just wishfully-"thinking". I've forgotten more than you'll ever know; especially after the syphilis works it's way into your brain, like it did with Nietzsche. 🤪
I have this same problem with my adult son (except that he's transgender and believes he is a woman). I've told him he's making a mistake, and so now, we basically have no relationship, as he is taking the perspective that if I can't accept his life choices, he won't have a relationship with me. If I want to talk to him, I have to use his girl's name or he gets upset and refuses to be in the same room with me. I have a choice- pretend he IS a girl, even though I don't believe it- or hold to my beliefs and hope that he will become the prodigal son and return to sanity. Very difficult time for me. He's moved cross-country so it's not a constant battle, but I pray for guidance every night. Perhaps this video was it.
It takes real strength to hold yourself to your own religious beliefs but let someone you love live their own lives. I hope you will one day put your pride aside and accept your kid for who they are and not who you want them to be.
@@Gek1177 "I hope you will one day put your pride aside and accept your kid for who they are and not who you want them to be." Put gay pride aside and accept Christian kids for who they are and dont tell them they are "hateful".
You just need to accept the reality that Leviticus 20: 13 makes you a hate filled bigot and that just as you are free to make this choice, other more empathetic people are also free to stay as far away from you as they can. Only you can change this, but perhaps you just can't wait to be the first to throw that stone.
You can also feel free to reject the teaching of the Bible. You can feel free to throw hateful terms around to make yourself feel superior. But remember, it's not me you disagree with, it's Jesus Christ. In the end, it will lead you to a very dark place. I will add you to my prayers; but if my son decides to warp his body with harsh chemicals and pretend he is something he is not, then I'm not required to help or to encourage him to destroy himself even though it might temporarily repair our relationship. @@downenout8705
I have no pride in this situation. I recognize I failed as a father in raising my son properly, that he now hates his masculinity so much that he decided to take harsh drugs to warp his body to help pretend he is something he is not. But if you are equating "pride" with "being faithful to the word of God", then I take that as quite an (undeserved) complement. @@Gek1177
@@brianpeterson3884 Basically everybody is bullied, including lgbtqrs harshly bulling religious people, but the suicidal rate is high only on lgbtqrs community.
This hits hard for me because my family is in the same situation with both my sisters who are both bi but are in same sex relationships the biggest problem is that they know exactly how me and our parents feel about it and it almost tore one of my sisters away from us.
How is it a problem that they know how you guys feel about it? It's none of your business really. Your family's rigid religious convictions are the ones tearing them apart from you, not them being bi.
@@katamas832with all due respect, why is it that all fall on the religious and not the people who are doing wrongs. If the sisters are bi and in same sex relationships and the family has convictions due to their beliefs, wouldn’t it be wise to respect their beliefs as they should respect them being bi?? Speaking to them that they are doing something wrong is not shoving down religion. They are adults capable of doing the decisions. I am sure you wouldn’t tell a person who suffers from suicidal thoughts that it’s okay for them and follow what they feel. That person would die. So the same is done when we Christians see people in sin. We don’t want to see them take a path that leads to hell, but it is up to them whether they believe that. Same could be said as to the sisters being shoveful of their homosexual relationships to their family with convictions. It is as if they are hungry for approval
@@Fedex52738 They aren't doing wrongs. The way he described it makes me think he and the parents were the problem "they know how we feel about it", aka they weren't tapdancing around them because of their religion. Since many Christians take the mere existance of a homosexual couple as shoveful, I highly doubt that they were actually shoveful.
Anytime homosexuality gets brought up the comment section goes wild. Especially recently with efforts to normalize it. There are those who will argue at length. We need to remember it isn't our job to convince anyone of anything. We cant. Only the holy spirit can do that. It is impossible to get anyone to accept any truth if they refuse to believe it. It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented. Even if the evidence is absolute. People do leave the lifestyle. The ones that do, see it for what it is.
It already is normal. It just has to be pounded down on the pathetic bigots, a lot of them happen to be Christian (and other theists) plenty of Atheists as well
@@logicalatheist1065No; it's an aberration, and a 'reversal of polarity' within in "sec. shoe all Lee" dimorphic species. It's also a vile twisting of human "sec.shoe Al lit tea" that makes men behave like parodies of women, and, makes women make themselves look/act like overgrown boys (not men). It SHOULD be "pounded down" by, well, EVERYONE. Anti-theism/New-Atheism should be stamped-out, too. 😏
Love without truth is hypocrisy. Truth without love is brutality. If you love her you'll tell her the truth, gently yet firmly, even at the cost of losing the relationship.
@sterlingfallsproductions3930 your statement is a belief and for you a truth So by your logic you couldn't even talk at all. I was talking about The Truth, that something that is true even if no-one agrees or says it to you.
@sterlingfallsproductions3930 it completely went over your head...I'm talking about the truth that is the truth even if no-one agrees with it, even if nobody told you or me, I'm talking about the truth regardless of our opinions and beliefs
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I see that you have an inability to process objectivity. Don't worry, it happens to a lot of people who are egotistical but unintelligent, so you're not alone.
@sterlingfallsproductions3930 the truth is it's against our very nature and purpose as human beings, you can leave religion alone if you want, but if you disagree with science as well then okk
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 You're reminding me of how pedos say that they will be validated, because homosexuality was. While homosexuals claim that they don't push for pedophilia, they still try to push sexuality and gender identity on children when they are young and impressionable, which is literally the same tactic Hitler used to get Germany on his side-- fooling and using the youths. You likely won't look into the secret drag shows in schools being reported on or children performing in drag shows or children being forced to socially transition when the teacher wants to push transgenderism on children who shouldn't even be burdened with that at such a minor age. Continue turning a blind eye to it, for the sake of social justice. The more you convince yourself that it is what is needed, the farther you lose morality and the quieter the voice in your head telling you that's wrong will become. God wrote His law in our hearts, and you're actively choosing to ignore that for the sake of validation of people who treat you as a tool, rather than a person. I hope you get better.
This could just be edited out, but he never mentioned her age. Cause kids go through all types of phases doesn't always mean that they go through a gay like phase, but they go through several confusing phases all the way up until the end of high school. woman tend to go through this phase the most for several reasons whether it be through friendship, curiosity and even media and this could just be very easily experimental. Most woman young and old through highschool and collegego through this type of phase. So is she just confused and is told that she's gay by someone outside her family cause she's just going through a phase or could it just be that she's confused and has a friend that's in the same boat and they're just curious doesn't mean she's gay?
If so, then so be it. Jesus Christ wants us to be separate from sin. Which means separate from people who sin and won't repent. See also 2 Corinthians 5 I think. (The Scripture warning us about being mismatched with unbelievers.)
"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be My people.” “Therefore come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.” II Corinthians 6:14-17
We are all sinners and fall short. Love them. Live the truth as an example. All the while asking forgiveness for the countless sins we commit on a daily basis. Can you imagine if his sister stopped loving him, stopped encouraging him with one of his struggles. How is that any different?
My son got out of the homosexual lifestyle. This is what he says: I was once a gay man and found Jesus again and left that lifestyle behind. After reading the Bible and having my heart and mind reshaped by God it’s easy to see how even when I was a child in the 90s that these types of indoctrination was present back then. My mother never gave into the “accept your gay child” pressures from everyone around her, and 17 years later I freed myself from homosexuality. God has provided a miracle for my family and because of my mother’s strong and incredible faith. I listened to the ways of the world, but I have been freed from their lies. I used to hate her for not accepting me, but now I see that it’s because of her faith that I am alive today. If you are a parent with a child going through something similar don’t give up your faith for your child. Teach them the ways of Jesus and his promises. After reconnecting and becoming so close with my best friend, aka my mother, again we constantly discuss our perspectives with her over these past 17 years. We see the lies of Satan and the world in plain view. If you are a parent trust and build your faith in Jesus, read his promises and know that if you teach your children when they are young they will return to the Lord when they are older. My testimony speaks to this, my mother’s testimony speaks to this as well. Cling to your faith with all your heart, and pray! I have recently found out after leaving this lifestyle behind how many people have been praying for me all these years. My mothers faith did this, and now I am the prodigal son that had returned home and we now are standing strong in the steadfast love of Jesus, fighting these lies of the World and the lies of Satan! He is the deceiver and will always kill, steal and destroy anyone who chooses to listen to his lies! God didn’t bore you into this type of lifestyle that’s a lie. He made us in his image, he clearly discusses that sexual immorality, homosexuality is a sin, so if we are made in his image then that would prove that you were not bore this way, because God is holy and is without sin! I know most will say I’m lying to myself about who I truly am, my sister told me this after making a choice to walk away from the gay lifestyle. All I know is since I was baptized on 10/25/95 I have always loved Jesus, but had struggled with this desire, he gave me free will and allowed me to choose and I chose a life that almost killed me, on multiple occasions. But the Holy Spirit never left me even while living in sin, he has protected me from hypoglycemic seizures, and valley fever. I could have easily died on multiple occasions but I am still here. There must be a reasons and I believe it is for my mother and I to tell our story. Many have said my testimony should be a book, but I see it’s more my mother’s story, I am just the proof at the end of the day. Her story is about heartbreak, anger, disappointment, love and mostly faith. She was steadfast in Jesus for so many years, never giving up, never listening to everyone around her. Imagine what strength that requires, and mostly imagine where all that strength that comes from… Jesus! She is my mother, my best friend, and is truly inspirational! She has shown me that faith in our Lord Jesus Christ must be our one true desire and priority! Once you change your perspective on your priorities, he will handle the rest! Because of her, it has shown me how to fix my life, how to escape the clutches of Satan. I say this after making these choices not because of her, but for myself, but now looking back it has been a confirmation reflecting on my choices that choosing Jesus is always the right decision. So if you are someone struggling with same sex attraction or you’re a parent or someone with this issue, read your Bible! Trust in Jesus! Never lose faith! Give thanks and most importantly pray! 🥰♥️ ❤
@@TomMichael5678 Thank you Tom. It’s been 17 difficult years, but my son is freed from the lies. deceit, illnesses, sin, anger, unhappiness. The light of Jesus shines from him. Everyone he meets sees it in him. He says that lifestyle has nothing to offer but pain and sickness. We as parents must NOT cave into accepting it or approving of it. Romans 1:32. Matthew 10:37-39. If we cave in, then chances are higher your child will never be freed from it. Same thing for any other sin. Never cave into the approval of murder, theft, pedophilia, adultery, prostitution incest, transgenderism, puberty blockers, drugs, alcoholism, porn addictions, etc…, Stick with God/Jesus no matter what. Matthew 10:37-39 says 37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
My nephew got sucked into the LGBTQ community a few years ago. He believes he was born a female. I had a few conversations with him about his past, looking for a root cause. Even though he acknowledged some trauma in puberty he decided to transition. Despite sharing the gospel in truth and love he broke all communication with our family. My obedience to Christ is superior to any other relationship I have. Christians have stand for truth regardless of the backlash. I left a voicemail to say my door is always open because I love him. The only thing I can do now is pray.
It sounds like he made a difficult but ultimately brave decision on the face of the religiously motivated bjgotry that has clearly deep roots in his family.
@knotsew5490 Sickness of the mental kind is talked about all through the Bible and in fact, the New Testament is full of this type of people. What is there to educate myself on regarding those who deny the objective reality of who they are with their subjective thoughts. Irrational and nonsensical.
Franks advice is certainly wise. But it is very difficult to follow through in many circumstances. Especially because we all fall short. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.
Lmao..... this man thinks he needs to gain "courage" to interrupt his sister's happiness. The arrogance makes my eyes pop, honestly. Turek thinks he has a connection to divine understanding, yet he can't demonstrate A SHRED of how he got that understanding, or why he should trust it. What a pant load!
a thief is happy when he gets new things a rapist is happy when he gets sex happiness is COMPLETELY irrelevant if it comes at the cost of doing something immoral
@@logicalatheist1065 morality is a law created by God God has said that adultery/fornication goes against moral law if the creator of something tells you something about it, it's true
Like your nasty lifestyle in a religious cult? Lifestyle implies choice where none exists. Being gay is who you are the same as being a redhead. Can a redhead change their hair colour... they can fake it but it never really changes.
@@Billy-bc8pk There aren't any more health issues than with heterosexuals. And what does creating a linage have to do with nastiness? Standing doesn't create a linage, yet it's not nasty
You should tell the truth, but you can't help those who don't want to be helped. There's no reason to obnoxious to the point of destroying your relationships.
To your point about being obnoxious. Yes, I suppose that would be a great concern for a self-righteous person, but my guess is a true Christian will think long and hard about the best manner and method for approaching a person caught in sin. Too, we must recall that a person often sees offense where none is intended. Rather than deal with their sin, they often deflect by saying we aren't respecting/loving them because we're not approving their actions. It's a classic method of criminals: blame "the system" for not being perfect when they commit a crime rather than own up to their misdeed. I like the approach Dr. Turek suggests in this video: ask their permission to tell them about the issue first. A person who genuinely seeks truth will welcome constructive feedback from those around them. So give them God's truth in love. We may not convey everything 100% perfectly, but I'd rather make the attempt, however clumsy to get the message through and repent of my clumsiness rather than some day have that person ask, "Why didn't you ever try to tell me how wrong this was?" and bear the guilt of my cowardice which causes them to suffer. To make a poor analogy, I'd rather tackle a person off the train tracks and break a few of their ribs in the process instead of sitting idly by and watch the train hit them just because I don't have any way to "soften" the blow.
I was once at a church where the pastor threatened to get a restraining order on me simply because I sad that I have SEEN homosexuality take place in the church! You know : the haven for sinners, the hospital that attracts sick people! When I first saw this, it was with a teenager who’s father was the music leader in his church and he had NO CLUE of what was really going on in his house during his daughter’s slumber parties! I found out years later that his son became a cross dresser. The church needs to pull their head out of their keesters and WAKE UP!
All these people sharing stories about how they oh so nobly shattered their family because of a loved one's sexuality, they're horrendous people. If you're reading this and you told someone "The Truth," then you should be ashamed. Your sin is greater than anything that happens in your loved one's bedroom. If you think they're going to hell, then the least you could do is save them a good spot for when they meet you there.
@lohhe6532 - How do you explain "speak the truth in love?" Jesus also told people the truth. He said it in a way that is often much kinder than we do, but he said some hard things to people. Sexuality does matter. You cannot practice sexual immorality and expect anything less than God's judgment.
@knotsew5490 - Hi there. Thank you for responding. I do not find the argument that something is "acceptable" because it is found in nature, persuasive. Human morals/behavior cannot be judged based on what happens in nature or the animal kingdom. Animals are not people. People were created in the image of God. Animals were not. We are expected by God to behave in ways in keeping with God's ways, values, morals. God gave the 10 commandments to show His righteousness and holiness to all of mankind. Because man falls short of God's standard of holiness/righteousness as found in the 10 commandments, we are declared guilty before God and rightly deserve His wrath and condemnation that will be poured out against all skin and ungodliness. The penalty for not keeping God's standard of holiness, is an eternity in hell separated from the love of God, the mercy of God, and the grace of God. What a person will face is the complete Justice of God. You will not receive more than you deserve but you will not receive less than you deserve either. All human beings have fallen short of the glory of God and are objects of wrath. Because God is full of Love and Righteousness and He does not want anybody to perish apart from him redemption, he sent His Son, Jesus Christ, as the substitute/sin bearer to live a fully righteous life (He lived up to all of God's standard of Holiness, the 10 commandments), and when he died on the cross, God placed on him the sins of the world and Jesus paid the penalty for that sin in Hell, so nobody who believes in Him will perish. After all our sins were paid for, God the Father saw Jesus (the sinless soul that He was) and raised him from the dead per Leviticus 18:5 - keep my statutes and my judgments, by which a man may live if he does them; I am the LORD. Jesus is our Righteous Redeemer and when we confess with our mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in our heart God raised him from the dead, we will be saved. I pray you hear the truth because I am not trying to scare you, malign you, or hurt you. I am trying to warn you about the future after you die. It is appointed once for man to die and after that the judgment. God is keeping a record of everything every single person does, good and bad, and if you die without Jesus Christ, you will face judgment at the Great White Throne Judgment and all the books recorded for your life on earth will be opened along with the Book of Life, and if your name is not found in the Book of Life, you will pay for all your own sins for eternity in the Lake of Fire, where there is no escape. I trying to warn you. God is good, just, and loving and He has made a way of salvation for every single person on this planet through all the ages because he does not want anybody to perish, but He allows each person to have free choice to accept God and His ways or reject Him. If you reject God's way of salvation, you will bear your own penalty for sin and God is Just. You will reap what you have sown on earth. I do not want you to die without Christ. That is why I am telling you the Gospel message, so you can hear the message and seek the truth. Amen
@knotsew5490 - There are many things written in Scripture that God said that I do not understand and I do not always like myself. I was reading in Job this morning and it is hard to read that God allowed Satan to incite harm against Job and God knew it and allowed it. It is hard for me to understand such things, but I am not God. He is not me. His ways are higher than my ways. I believe He knows something I do not know, and if I understood everything with His wisdom, I would do the same things, so ultimately, I believe God as God has the right to decide what happens and how it happens and he gets to tell people how to live, what to do, and yes, even to the point that if there are slaves how they are to be treated. I do not understand everything, but I believe God does not have to justify himself to me, and He does not have to adjust Himself to me. I must adjust myself to Him. Your wants of not believing in Christ are your wants and you are given free choice to exercise those, and you may live apart from Jesus, but there is a Judgment Day, and every single human being will face it. Every person will see God face-to-face, and it would be better to face a loving Father than just a Just Judge. Your suggestion that two adults in a loving relationship does not harm themselves or others is not a proveable statement because human beings hurt each other all the time without realizing it, intending it, or even knowing it. When a person manifests a "hurt" that second is not when he was hurt. That is only when he feels it. He was hurt before that, but never even knew it. That type of stuff happens all the time. Cancer is like that. Disease is like that. Drugs are often like that. Sexually transmitted diseases are like that. The injury happens but there is a delayed reaction before the consequence is felt. I agree a person can engage in a homosexual relationship on earth for decades and everything "appears" ok, but God through His Holy Word, has said the problem will manifest after that person dies, and every single person living will die. It is unavoidable. That is what I am trying to point out. We will not escape the Judgment of God. I wish you all the best and thank you for responding
When my brother "came out" I tried to tell him the truth. It isn't who he really is. Its your flesh. Your flesh isn't who God says you are. Those who walk by the Spirit will not gratify the desires of the flesh. He didn't care. Long before he finally came out, he fully committed to it. That's the thing with ANY sin. If you keep it in and don't talk to anybody, the longer it stays a secret, the deeper the hold it gets on you. The worst part is he never talked in a swishy way like homosexuals do. Now he's moved about 15% over to the swishy speech and it makes me want to throw up just listening to him.
To make it worse, he doesn't see the devil is working to make him as comfortable as possible. He and his boyfriend are now making good money. They go on vacations a lot. He's sitting good in this life. The dangerous part about this is comfortable people almost never cry out to God. Typically, only those suffering cry out to God.
@@palepants9475 it's much more likely that the devil convinced you to cut your own brother down than rather than the devil being responsible for giving your brother a loving and, happy life.
@knotsew5490Your statement makes no sense. If there is actually a God, and he is the source of truth, then saying things in alignment with God would indeed be true. You making an assertion about God and Christianity being a cult doesn’t make it so. There is much more evidence that “a” God exists than does not. For example, why something exists rather than nothing, the origin of the universe, the fine-tuning of the universe, the origin of life, the existence of objective moral values and duties, the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus from the dead, etc. are all strong evidence of a designer of the universe, AKA, God. And if there is a God, then your personal preferences do not cancel out what God shows humanity is true.
When you truly love someone, you are not content to let them live in error. 1 John 4:18 "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love." A person that truly loves their family or friends is willing to face the fear of losing them so they can know the truth. If they're not willing to do so, they are allowing selfish fear to control them. I know that my parents love me because they never hesitated to discipline me and teach me right or wrong when I was a child, which caused me to love them the more as I became a man.
@knotsew5490 "Your "truth" is about making people feel worse about themselves" Do what thou wilt mentality. Are feeling supposed to trump facts?? youre illogical. Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak people, weak people make hard times. Feeling-driven people with the logic and IQ of animals will certainly make hard times. Teach someone they evolved from animals, they are prone to behaving like animals.
@knotsew5490 Don't confuse what is with what could be, please. And your assumption that gayness is a gene is unproven. It's just another leftist lie to promote slavery-to-desires.
Good riddance for the sister. How hateful you have to be to not be able to tolerate your family having different beliefs and religion. Cult like crazy.
Where exactly is this passage in 1 Corinthians? My KJV Bible has something completely different: “ Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.”
I have a son who cut me and my wife out of his life about 7 yrs ago due to us not embracing his homosexual lifestyle. We have no way to contact him except by email and we are not even sure that this email address is valid because he never responds to us He lives in another country and we pray for him daily to come back to faith in the Lord and back to us. I also have a precious niece whose daughter is in a gay relationship and she won't talk to her mom due to her mom not embracing her homosexuality. Unfortunately, those in this lifestyle are taught in the gay culture to cut people out of their life who don't agree/embrace their homosexuality. They claim to be tolerant but are only tolerant towards those who agree with them. The young man in this video must choose to please God before his sister (which means not embracing homosexuality as being good, pure and lovely) but let his sister know that in spite of differing views he still wants to have a loving relationship with her. He then will have to let the chips fall where they may. Hopefully, his sister is more mature and tolerant than the other two I mentioned.
Yeah, I don't think it's just not agreeing/not embracing going on there if it happens twice lol. But it sure is a nice sugar coating often used. Good for them.
Why would any of them want to be with you? Imagine them everyday telling you they don't believe in your imaginary god or that you are deceived and your love for them isn't real? At some point you will get enough from it and will want to get away. Cutting you away from their lives was the best thing that could happen for both sides. I don't see a reason to complain about it.
What a load of BS. As a gay man, I can tell you no one is taught by the community to cut out family. Family does that all on their own because you do not know enough to stop. Accept your role and stop being weak. You cannot disagree with who I am to the core. That is the problem. You have no right to offer opinions as you know nothing of this world.
“Those in this lifestyle are taught in the gay culture to cut people out of their life who don’t agree/embrace their homosexuality.” Utter nonsense. You’re a terrible person and a terrible parent.
They cut people like you out because you are toxic to their lives. It has nothing to do with "g~y culture" and everything to do with religious fundamentalism. If you were a better person there's be no need to fit you out. But instead you can't put aside your religious beliefs enough to just love your own son.
You don't need to confront her lifestyle. You need to give her the gospel which is the only thing that can save. Sin is the transgression of the law. Therefore to tell someone they need to turn from sin is telling them they need to keep the law. They need to believe the gospel. Idc what their lifestyle is at least believing the gospel will save their soul. But also if they believe then God goes to work on them.
What if the shoe were on the other foot? What if your sister tells you that she knows your religion disapproves of her personal relationship, and that she can't tolerate that? And that if she has to choose between the love of her life and you and your religion, she will choose her partner? How would you react to that?
“If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. John 15:18-19
@@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD this means everything. We are promised that the world will hate and persecute those who speak the truth. If his sister did that to him it would be the fulfillment of that promise.
@@Doc-Holliday1851 So if the Koran said the world will hate those who spread the truth of the Koran, would that make the Koran true if people didn’t believe it?
"Hey Frank, my sister has a same sex relationship and seems very happy and enjoying the moment all the time. I have failed in telling her all of my religious dogma. How do I gain the courage to insert my religion of choice into her life and tell her she is going to burn in hell for eternity if she does not stop her happy ways? How can I tell her that without her hating me and ruining our relationship?" Very sad example of how Christianity inflicts harm on society. If he ends up losing his relationship with his sister he would only have himself to blame. Maybe his sister is wondering how she can deal with a brother who harasses his family with his religious nonsense.
@@7Minish I didn't make a claim. I offered my opinion and I speculated that maybe his sister didn't want to deal with his brothers religious nonsense. I do not know these people, purely speculation.
@@Mavors1099 The answer is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the way, and the truth, and the life. Tell people about the biblical Jesus Christ and about repentance.
a thief is happy when he gets new things a rapist is happy when he gets sex happiness is COMPLETELY irrelevant when it comes at the cost of immorality not only that but openly embracing sin can cause you to love sin more, loving sin more can cause you to pick sin over God, being without God is being in hell trying to stop someone from picking an eternity in hell is definitely a good thing
Beyond claiming god calls it a sin, there is zero credible argument to calling 🌈 wrong. This is manipulation to get a person to agree with you. Turek is a manipulation artist.
Well God say it is sin several times, if you choose to reject Him you will just end up with the one deceiving you, see how that work for you in the long run.
@@andrevisser7542 Yes, because you think I am bound for eternal suffering. I accept eternal nothingness probably waits for all of us and I am fine with it
We have this very situation in our family my only granddaughter 😢 I’ve told her mum & brothers almost the same as Frank but it’s difficult for them, just like the lad speaking to Frank. She knew Jesus but I don’t know if she ever made Him Lord 😭 sadly she won’t have anything to do with me. One grandson thinks it’s shame. Though I still send txt msgs of “truth in love” to her.
Maybe you should grow up enough to be her own person. This isn't about truth and love it's about pride, you think your beliefs are more important than having a relationship with your granddaughter. That's not love.
@@Gek1177 progressive mind hey🤦🏻♀️ you know nothing ! You presume to much about people you know nothing about! You have nothing to loose! She is not your family ! You have NO LOVE OF MY GRANDDAUGHTER you don’t care she’s depressed, you don’t care she has rejection issues from her childhood ! You flat out DON’T CARE! however our family love and care about her we want her to learn to love herself, to not be suicidal so as not take her life before it time! Don’t reply I have nothing more to say let alone justify myself to you sir/madam/it??.
@@jangaroo777 I know enough about you for what I said to be true. Try to overcome your pride, you don't have to stop having your religious beliefs to be present in your granddaughter's life. You just have to love her more than your pride.
@@chloemartel9927 or maybe shell think about what I said and find a way to set her ego aside to build a relationship with her granddaughter and everyone will be happier for it.
A clear demonstration of how immoral this religion is. Not only is Frank advocating splitting up a loving relationship between two people of the same sex but God's directives could mean the destruction of the bond between a brother and sister. Any God that insists on this blind obedience is not worthy of respect.
I am in a situation with similar difficulties. One of my close Christian friends has a son who decided to transition to a female. She now calls him by his girl name and refers to him as her/she and accepts everything he's doing, while saying she doesn't agree with it. I've told her what I thought, like Frank's response here, but it has had no affect. Now, her son is coming to volunteer with us and I am expected to do the same she does. Not sure what to do. He's not a relation to me, or even a friend. I don't want to cause a fuss in this volunteer situation... it's a rough one. 😞 Anyone have guidance? Maybe a similar situation?
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What I find so interesting is why so many people who identify themselves as LGBT seem to NEED the appoval of other people. To me it's a sign that deep down in their heart of hearts they know they are living in sin.
Because when you truly believe what you are doing/believing is morally right, you don't care what others think. I am a Christian and I love Jesus and a LOT of people dont approve or agree with my beliefs, but I don't care. Because I know it's right. I don't need the approval of others. I don't cut off relationships with my family members just because they disagree with me and my beliefs.
So why is it that so many LGBT people can't seem to do that? That even when someone says, look I love you, but I don't agree with you they become so angry and will cut others off?
If you truly know and believe what you are doing is right, you don't need validation from others. Only those doing something they know is wrong have almost a desperate need for their choices to be affirmed and validated. Because humans are always looking for ways to justify our sins.
Actually they just want to be able to safely and openly be themselves.
You have to remember that for the better part of 2000 years folks like you used to lynch LGBT people and even in the past decade people like you have attempted to diminish LGBT freedoms over religious beliefs.
Not you specifically.
Spot on comments, Bunny. Just seeing all of the emotional responses and name calling on this thread from those who are living in or supporting homosexuality speaks volumes to me. It's nearly impossible to have an adult conversation with them. Two close relatives of mine in this homosexual lifestyle are the same way. Feelings and emotions drive them. Truth and logic don't matter.
@@timfinch7857What truth and logic?
@@timfinch7857 don't pretend this is about having an adult conversation. It's naked bigotry cloaked in religiosity.
@@Gek1177 By calling me a bigot, you just proved my point.
Some people do think love means approval or affirmation, even if they don't say it. But that's not the only mix up I see happening. Some think being kind is to be nice. They're very different. Nice requires you to be pleasant or agreeable. Basically, it's the surface. Being kind goes deeper. It requires that you care.
Love means telling someone, "This works for me, therefore it must work for you."
@@UnconventionalReasoningYour reasoning is not unconventional its just absent🤦♂️.
@@moralityIsHard Do you even understand what "reasoning" means? What is actually absent is the deity you all worship and obey. Instead, what is present is your obsequence to a book.
Yet you'll notice that this approval, affirmation, pleasantness, and agreeableness never applies to the homosexuals in relation to their family members that disagree with them. Demanding agreement on any issue or there will be "trouble" (or an end to the relationship) is emotional abuse. It should be treated as such (that means you shun the abuser).
@@moralityIsHard I think he's just resentful.
There's nothing loving about affirming anyone's sin. The loving thing to do is warn them about the consequences of sin and why we all ought to live how God ordered us to live. Affirming sin is rejecting God.
@@HUNTSMARTFASTHARDall the scientific evidence that backs up it is detrimental.
@@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD I have God's moral standard to justify good and evil. What about you? How do you justify what's good and evil and on what grounds?
Sadly many people in the world today believe you are judging someone for sharing their love for someone and telling them the truth.
@@juliogomez9145 If god condoned the H-Caust; would you celebrate it?
@@brotherinchrist72No, it is not the "love," part. It is the concealed messaging of that whole "love the sinner and not the sin," rethoric.
Beckett Cook's testimony is a great example of how his family handled his ss lifestyle when he was in it & how it ultimately led to his salvation.
Did you see the video where he read the letter his mother had typed to God about him? It's very powerful.
I told my neice the truth and I lost her but I still love her and pray for her eyes to be opened.💔
A word of encouragement....
You may not have lost her. Rather, your talk may have been the first step on a journey of her coming back to the truth. Sometimes the pathway is not direct. It may take a long time and she may walk through many dark paths before coming back.... but your talk and the power of God's word may be the thing that started her on the path. I think of the Prodigal Son in times like these. No doubt there were many times when someone called out his wayward lifestyle, but he wasn't ready to listen yet. But once he hit rock bottom, then the message got through. Your message may not affect your niece now, but in time, it may be the words that lead her back home.
Blessings!
Same.
Good for her
You lost her because you are vile.
your niece chose sin than the LORD. This is happening all over the world. I pray for Christ speedily return to the earth!
To the guy who asked this question:
I went through the exact same situation with my sister a few years ago. She is a practicing homosexual, living with her partner in another state. She'd constantly bring up how wonderful everything in their relationship is and future plans their making. I'm married with a daughter and she would ask if I would put her on a plane for her to spend some time together over the summer. It got to a point where I could no longer keep silent.
I started the conversation saying that I need to talk to her and expressed endlessly how much I love and value her. Once that was out of the way, I told her the truth, which is: I don't agree, because God doesn't agree. It was a hard, tearful conversation but one that definitely needed to be had. Delivery is key but if your sister loves you even close as much as you love her, she'll accept it even if she doesn't agree and continue to love you too, even if it may be from a distance for a while. Feeling the tension in my relationship with God bc my silence and the tension bw essentially lying to my sister, watching her walk her way to hell was too much.
Praying you find the grace to speak the truth in love and for both of your hearts to give and receive said truth❤
And how is your relationship with your sister now?
The hate spewing christian strikes again. Your imaginary friend is more important to you than your own sister. Well your sister is better off without you. Hopefully your daughter will avoid your depravity and grow up to realize her aunt is just another person.
What kind of monster are you to go between your sister and her happiness all because you're in a criminal cult ? WHat is she doing wrong ?
What makes you think you speak for God? If you don't like the fact she's gay, own up and tell her that. Take responsibility for your opinions rather than blaming it on God.
@@DoctorHero He's just judging her and critisize her for what she is. Something a monster does.
God bless this brother; give him counsel, wisdom, equipment & and opportunity in Your perfect timing, Lord. 🙏
AMEN
LoL you kids derail your lives over someone being gay. Meanwhile, us atheists don't have qualms about who you sleep with.
@knotsew5490 The “they are born that way” doctrine has been debunked. It was introduced by a child abuser who molested babies, toddlers, and children to validate his research. The concept is disgusting, and what is more disgusting is the alphabet people still cite his research to this day. It is a choice to be gay; it is not like having red hair. You are a victim of flawed research and false equivalency.
@knotsew5490 Indeed. And delighting in tearing families apart in the name of a doctrine is cruel, inhumane, and everything wrong with a society poisoned by religion.
@@antitheistsuperstition What about the alphabet doctrine? If you presume LGBTQTY6 is not a religion, then you are not very intelligent. The only difference is that the god they serve is themselves.
As an ex bisexual i want to say something to people who are in that kind of situation: My mom never gave up on me! You have to pray for your loved ones and show them the love of Christ. You have to tell them the truth but also be wise what they can unterstand in the Moment. I tell you there is hope. I was an atheist, femenist, bisexuell, criminal and always on drugs. I gave my life to Jesus Christ in 2019 and i pray my and your loved ones will too 🙏🏻 (i am from germany so please excuse my writing)
Through your repentance you can be saved. Never lose sight of Jesus now that you've found him
>always on drugs
So you are an addict that swapped one addiction for another, because religion is very much a drug. Then again looking at the crappy spelling and liberal use of every boogie-man word Christianity has except woke, this post reads a complete bull💩. Next time don't lay it on so thick. 🤣🤣🤣
Hiding who you are for trashy religions?
@knotsew5490 why is it a poor way to do it? Really it's the only way. Without religion, people will do sinful things because it feels good. And there's nothing telling us we can't do it other than manmade laws and rules. Laws and rules that hold no merit because it's manmade.
@knotsew5490 my point is. Without God's law people are free to do anything. Literally anything. There's nothing to tell us what's right and what's wrong.
Frank Turek's 2 suggested questions are very good, and I like how he communicates they are spoken in caring for the other person.
A+ for Frank! Truth is above all, no matter what.
And yet Frank can't show his god is real and true. And thus his intolerance against gay people is by extension unfounded.
@@albaraka7519 it's not his God, my God, your God or their God. It's the only God(our God) or if you don't like that term; we can say the Creator, feel better pal?
@@albaraka7519 hmm...you must be new. That's all hes done for the last several years. People are free to ignore him, though.
The intolerance of sin is also perfectly clear in the Bible. However the person can still be loved. We are all sinners anyway. This is not all that difficult.
@@dmironyuk I'm an atheist and don't believe in any god. And FYI you only validated my point. Frank like you makes many claims about a god but doesn't provide testable evidence to show this god is real and thereby validate his claims. Which makes those claims and the intolerance around them silly. "feel better pal?". Yup. You proved me right. So thanks I guess.
@@akevy8 "hmm...you must be new." Nope. "That's all hes done for the last several years." Then he is a failure for the last several years. "The intolerance of sin is also perfectly clear in the Bible." And how did you confirm what the bible says is true? How did you confirm a god to be real? You don't get to just presume it is true you need to demonstrate it is true via testable evidence. "This is not all that difficult." No, it isn't.
Here's The Words answer:
Love does not rejoice at wrong-doing, but it rejoices with the truth (1 Corinthians 13,6 ESV)
Whose truth? Yours?
@@mjb7677 Is objective and binary🤷♂️. There's only one truth. And yes, it's God's truth.
@@moralityIsHard Not for an Atheist.
@@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rbwho is the them in that verse?
@@mjb7677 Yup, even for an atheist. There's no logical argument to suggest otherwise. You should just say “I feel” beforere your statements. All that postmodern/post-truth nonsense has been invalidated. Moreover, atheists love evolution, and that has also been debunked. Bacteria cannot become a human regardless of the time.
Sorry, I crushed your worldview. A little critical thought goes a long way.
Thank you, Frank. In the past, I chose to say nothing when I saw sin in someone's life because I thought, I'm a sinner. You explain a good way to approach hard topics.
Then stop sinning and be sanctified. Remove the plank from your own eye then you will be free to remove the speck from your brothers.
@armsracer8273 Question for you, have you become a sinless person in this physical world?
@@armsracer8273 All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. I am a sinner and so is everyone else. But Jesus Christ paid the price and now I'm justified by His grace (Just if I'd) didn't sin.
@@bobkelly3944 Evidently, Jesus has returned because this dude is sinless. I'm brushing up on Revelation right now😂.
Please don't, as an atheist whose brother recently confronted me about religion, nothing hurts more than realizing a family member has been reduced to such low levels by their evil and cruel religion.
I think we, all of us, can agree on this one thing: That loving someone doesn’t mean approving his/her ways.
So as an atheist, I don't have to accept this harmful religious nonsense? That's refreshing. Now, get this rubbish off the internet and you'll have my respect.
This is not approving about how they drive or their choices in life. Being gay is not a choice... it is as much of a choice as being heterosexual.
@@mjb7677 And this is where we disagree. Homosexual behavior is absolutely a choice and that is the sin. I personally know Christians who struggle with same-sex attraction, but they do not engage in sinful behavior and take their thoughts and desires to the Lord for help.
And it's the same for Christians who are single and struggle with lust or the desire to fornicate. Or married people who may struggle with pornography or the desire to commit adultery.
Sexual immorality/sin exists for all of us. We are all supposed to flee from it.
We are all responsible for our actions.
@@bunny_0288 Stop being obtuse. Who would know better than a gay man who was born this way? You cannot have an opinion on my life as you have never lived my life and don't reside inside of me. I am not equal to you in any way. I am a separate, distinct, and unique person. It is the height of arrogance and hubris to think you know anyone but yourself. Those Christians you reference have engaged in homosexuality and have not told you out of fear of being judged. You are either willfully blind or simply naïve. I will agree that we are responsible for our actions but I will never agree that being who I am is a sin because it is simply not a sin. God knew me before I was born and knew I was going to be gay. He is either a kid with an ant farm and a magnifying glass causing suffering or he is simply a kid with an ant farm... which is it?
@@itsJPhereI don’t think anyone needs your respect. thanks for loving us though we will continue to do the same for you.
The Lord is the same yesterday today and forever.
Unwavering never changing God.
Your god started off demanding human sacrifice and looking like a man who wrestled with prophets. Your god is always changing.
You really should read your bible so you know what it actually says about your god. Seems you are following your own version, not that of the bible.
You two make excuses for your sin , keep staying in the dark becsuse you refuse to give up your deeds
Love is putting someone else's needs above yours. The trick is determining what their need is. My friend gets angry when I bring up his smoking. His need is not me being supportive of his smoking but of apposing it... come what may.
@@D-Bunker-zv1bj What makes you think being gay is not a choice?
@@D-Bunker-zv1bjwhat make you think so? Some studies suggest that you can trace whether people are more likely to get addicted to drugs based on their genes. Yet those same studies show that despite some people have genes where they are more likely to get addicted to drugs, yet drug users while there are so many of them, don't account for half of humans population, what does it mean? It means everything is a choice.
@@D-Bunker-zv1bjHypothalmus is not fully developed during the perinatal stage of development, so not possible to be attracted to anything at that stage.
@@D-Bunker-zv1bj It's a choice that you grow into. Clearly, infants and toddlers are not heterosexual or homosexual in action. However, their bodies are made heterosexual in nature.
@@D-Bunker-zv1bj I will apply the same scrutiny to your comment.
Powerful words well spoken ❤❤❤
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
@@dansaber5853 No, you can't, just like you can pretend to be an adult with a 3 digit IQ and be a christian.
@@dansaber5853that is purely your personal belief and interpretation.
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 in the Old Testament, and Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 in the New Testament. You cannot willingly live for something that opposes the kingdom of God.
Idiotic words.
@knotsew5490 He is an awful person.
It comes down to who and what you really believe and why. If God is our God and His word is true then we must speak the truth. The world does not compromise with God and God does not compromise with the world. We shouldn't either.
Your god is imaginary and you just speak lies.
Amen brother Festus, God bless you.
Ive lost my sister through this. I stood firm and she now resents me and my family. We tried church, counseling, and compassion. She made up her mind and left, but I love her too much to stay silent .
Lord willing, she'll return like the prodigal son does.
Another relationship destroyed by religious nonsense. Why would anyone want to keep you in their life if you don't want to accept them in your life as they are? If you don't forgive them despite how you personally feel about them, then your religious mind is the problem. You've become an unforgiving bigot who doesn't deserve to be loved.
You were a fool and destroyed the relationship. We tried... for what end, your end, your worldview. Your hatred made her leave... She did the only thing she could do. You are simply a horrible person.
I don't doubt that part of her anger is because she knows you told her the truth. Hopefully she'll repent one day and thank you for it.
You got what you deserve, disowned.
Tell her & if she cuts you off, pray for her, turn it over to God & grieve the loss of the relationship
If your sister requires you to violate your beliefs to maintain relationship with her, she's emotionally abusing you and not doing anything to preserve the relationship, so maybe let the relationship go.
Pretty sure the sister never asked him to be a lesbian.
No you are the mental abuser. What she is has nothing to do with him and does not require his permission. He can accept her for what she is or he can lose a sister. His beliefs have nothing to do with anything, except his own personal malfunction of hate.
"T-agate tree" is wrong, grotesque, and vile. It's simple as that. "Sorry". 😏
@@johnharrison6745 what grade did you flunk out of school at? Looks like 2nd from your writing ability.
@@brianpeterson3884 Gender studies. They flunked me when I told them that Ellen Page was just a medically-mutilated, pharmacological-lee fouled-up chick. 😉
I think it’s easy for people to say what is the obvious thing that they would do and what not. But I speak from experience when I say I know how that brother feels. I have a very similar thing going on and I grew up in a broken home. And now that my sister live together for the first time after ten years, it’s sad to realize that we don’t connect deeply anymore. And it’s because of God. And it is worth it to not bend my convictions and my personality that has changed bcuz of God, just to make her feel comfortable. It is sad but people who experience this understand that it DOES take courage to deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow Jesus.
What has given me the courage is knowing that God is REAL! And I have a personal relationship with Him thank God.
I pray for those struggling in this situation 🙏 Gods way is not always easy but it is the best way (preaching to myself as well)
No you aren't bearing a cross, you're just hateful to your sister. Destroying your relationship with your daughter because the hate of 2000 year dead heathen is more important to you.
Thank you for your words of encouragement my fellow sister-in-Christ 🙏❤️
@@brianpeterson8908 "Blah; Gibber; Blather": They're right; you're wrong; "T-agate tree" is putrid; that is all. 😏
@@johnharrison6745 so you're now just gibbering your mental damage. So how much of a closet case are you?
@@brianpeterson8908 Nah; I'm just telling it like it is; whereas you're just INEPTLY gas-lighting. 🤪
I can feel the disdain from my own family and friends (some are catholic and some are atheists) that's why it's vital you join a church and fellowship with others who understand the price you pay for following Christ.
As a Catholic and former Protestant, I feel the hate towards my faith from my Protestant family members. But I'll continue to pray for them
@@MarvelGamer2023 ah yes the mental illness of religion, 'my version of the imaginary sky daddy is better than your version'. Religion is depravity.
@@MarvelGamer2023 Just curious...what makes you think you were a protestant before? How did you go from living by faith alone to believing in purgatory, the rosary, eucharist, praying to the dead and statues, the pope, exalting Mary....which none are Biblical ? I'm not attacking you, I'm just trying to understand as someone who was born in a catholic home but once I read the Bible by myself, I found many unbiblical doctrines.
Catholics have bought into the alphabet mafia.
@@kaboom9081You mean believe in the things almost all Christians believed in until Luther came along and preached made-up novelties like sola scriptura and sola fide? And threw out 7 books of the Old Testament, some of which include scripture that contradicts his novel theology? By the way, you mischaracterize several Catholic beliefs in your comment...
This is one of the big trials of our time . . . trying to navigate this within our families. I would also point out that Jesus would tell people the truth, and then allow them to choose. If people have stopped listening to us, all the preaching and warning in the world is pointless. We love them and let them know we're always there for them, and we do our best to stand with the Lord.
@@rikuswehmeyer6118 Except he did. It's in the Old Testament and New Testament. The “Jesus said” argument is weak and easily refuted. You should probably find another argument if you want people to take you seriously 😂.
I think the thing that hurts my soul the most is seeing how many Christian homes are being affected by this -- so many generations will be lost as people pursue a lifestyle that has no future lineage. Satan has truly won in that regard and it's so sad.
@@Billy-bc8pk He is the great deceiver.
Thank you for this video! This advice is very applicable to me in my family right now. 🙏
@knotsew5490 Family is important here on Earth, but what truly matters is eternity. Because Jesus died for my sins and I have a relationship with God, it is more important that I honor Him than appease my family. If my family members are living a life that is incompatible with a relationship with God, I need to make sure they understand they are in need of a Savior. I may not be able to change them myself, but I can plant the seed.
And, yes, there is harm in homosexual behaviors and relationships. Harm is not limited to the physical.
One of the hardest lessons most Christians have to learn is the idea that, in the face of God's everlasting truth, real love demands sacrifice of us. I wish this young man good fortune, because having that conversation with his sister may very well be one of the hardest things he'll ever have to do.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 From an insider's perspective, idk that there's any way I could convey our POV. Dr. Turek did a good job of covering it in the video. Love is important, especially when it's hard, and when you see a person going down a bad path, it's not loving to just say nothing and let them go. It's like how any good parent protects their child from danger by not allowing certain things, as highlighted in the video.
Incidentally, if it wasn't partially about the people, the bible would never say love one another, just as I have loved you.
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930if any Christian says they have no sin they are lying. Don’t loop all of into group because there are a lot of “Christians” out there that are not Christians. You will know them by their “fruit” aka their character qualities. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, and self control to name a few. The difference between and true Genuine believers in Christ is that the goal of the believers life is to conform yourself closer and closer to the character of Jesus and that involves a life style change and trying to sin less and less. And yes a person can truly sin less and less. They will never reach complete sinless of course. If a person calls themselves and believer and you can look back at their life 5 years ago and they are still doing the same ole stuff. They probably are not a true believer. I don’t disagree with you we all sin but the difference is are you trying to sin less and less or are you continuing in your sin and doing nothing about it? Once are person comes to faith in Jesus Christ you are under mercy when you slip up Jesus is the mediator and continues to help you as long as your recognize your sin and take responsibility for it.
I was thinking about this. If the brother/sister relationship was well founded, 'the conversation' is redundant. She should have already known her brothers view point and how he came to hold it. Is it not she that has driven the wedge in by making her choices?
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I agree, no person on earth is truly worthy of Christ's sacrifice or God's mercy, it's only because of their grace and love that we are. The most hardened criminal in the world is really no different than your average law abiding citizen, in that way.
@@harryfaberI mean if the relationship is important and she knows how deep his faith is, I wouldn't say it's redundant. No one's a mind reader, and if she herself doesn't have a deep faith, she wouldn't necessarily know where he's coming from in wanting to talk to her about her relationship.
If we confront every family member when we see them about their spiritual delinquencies we would alienate them and the enemy would secure his hold on them even tighter. Jesus did not stop at everyone He met to tell them the truth about their condition. This is the problem with standard Christianity (and btw, I'm a pastor of 41 years), they, without an opening, tell everyone around them about their failings and when rejected they claim that they're suffering for the message of the cross. Before Jesus ever spoke one word to the lost, He proved that He loved them unconditionally, no matter what their condition. THEN, as love broke the door down and the Holy Spirit created an opening, you talk to them about their condition and situation.
One would expect in this instance, though, that as a loving brother, he's had years to build relationship prior to speaking with her about the subject.
But I lean towards focusing on the human sin nature as a whole - like Ray Comfort does - rather than narrowing in on person specific failings.
And the Truth will set them free.
Well you're still chained to a childish imaginary friend you call god. So no, the truth hasn't set you free.
@brianpeterson8908 Yes, it's better for me to be chained to God than to be in the world and think I am free. In Christ, there is true freedom. And I hope that you come to the truth.
🤣🤣 You aren’t free, you are chained to a lie called religion and it’s imaginary sky daddy. @@strykervirus1724
@@strykervirus1724 That is gibberish. You are chained to your mental illness called religion, trying to appease an imaginary god no one can agree on what it even wants. Brainwashed to obey your masters claiming to know the wants of an imaginary being is enslaved.
Love the sinner and reject the sin. Praying for you brother.
@knotsew5490 No-one in is right mind assigns any value to what a "T-agate" advocate says. 😏
Nothing fails like a prayer
@@johnharrison6745why are you obsessed with rocks?
@knotsew5490 Then, you're even "doomer" than I thought you were. Thanks. 😉
athiest 'logic' : "nuuu theyre 1 n the same!!1! 😿💧:"
The Bible calls it a sin. It is as simple as that. Why don't people support their family members that commit all the other sins?
As the only Christian in my family, I've found that I'm more successful when I just lead by example rather than judging their sins.
@@SlottedSteve judging doesn't mean not calling out sin; if you know the truth God holds you accountable for telling others. Judging means like: "you're going to hell because you're gay, leave me alone". Leading by example is def #1, but you gotta make the truth clear so that they can link it with your lifestyle that backs it up. If I'm being harsh I'm speaking it myself as well haha, but yeah. Continue leading by example, but make sure you tell them (the truth in love [Ephesians 4:15]) so that they can link the lifestyle you live with the truths you preach.
@@kdavis6722 agreed. Sometimes leading by example is not enough. Think about a worldly constraint like not driving while drunk. I can drive sober all day, but at some point you need a police officer to set up a sobriety check to catch the drunks.
Just so with the Christian lifestyle. I think where we often fail is we try to judge those OUTSIDE the church. That's God's business. We are called to judge those INSIDE the church. The people who claim the label of "follower of Christ" but whose lifestyle doesn't match it are our business. For example, if I heard my brother in Christ talk about his secret extramarital affair and I said nothing but just "lived by example" not cheating on my wife.... well.... I'm accountable for not calling him to repentance. Eventually his wife will likely find out, and they will probably divorce. I would bear some of the guilt from that.
Because not everyone believes in "sin"… it’s a religious concept. People who aren’t religious see things that harm other people as wrong and things that don’t harm others fine. That’s why other "sins" such as murdering are also seen as wrong by non religious ppl. That’s why some ppl would not support murderers or rapists but may support homosexuality.
@@YangoBord Do you believe in a universal right and wrong though?
This same scenario happened in my family with my cousin. Sadly, at the time, I was more concerned about preserving the relationship than honoring God. Outwardly, I spoke as if I was in support, not wanting her to feel like another person was judging her, but inwardly I knew what God had said in His word. When I came to my senses about my hypocrisy (meaning not speaking and acting in accordance with what I believed), I acknowledged my mistake and sought forgiveness. Unfortunately, the relationship with my cousin is lost and my punishment is just. I share this because standing firm on the word of God when it means standing in opposition of someone you love is very difficult. But, you are never wrong for obeying God. Honesty is love. Supporting acts that separate a person from God is about a self preservation, not wanting others to be angry with us. Remember:
”Wounds from a friend can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses.“
Proverbs 27:6 NIV
”For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.“
Matthew 16:25 NIV
Those are the words of men, though.
@@Mavors1099
"Those are the words of men, though."
@@drillyourarguments
Of course they are.
So which Bible verse are you using to justify that female homosexuality is considered the same as that in Leviticus 20: 13? Because if you do consider them to be the same, I hope you told your cousin that you wanted them to be put to death, you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite after all.
God is Love... Amen. Now go Love one another by sharing God with them 🤗
So hell doesn’t exist?
@@jamesjeson6207 Can't have one without the other. You believe Heaven exists you must believe hell does too
Thank you. I needed to hear this.
Good video on what true love of others really mean.
Your true love is nothing but hate.
@brain
The internet athiest who cried "hate".
@@drillyourarguments Poor triggered christian, truth hurts.
@@brianpeterson3884
Prove this "hate".
The only one who is poor and triggered is the LustfulGodlessBelligerentQuack community.
@@drillyourarguments Quack? Quack is medical, so brainwashed you can't even keep your insults straight.
Lustful Godless Belligerent 😂😂😂 Sucks to be you!
Thank you, Father God ✝️ 🛐 and Pastor Frank Turek Amen!
John 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Psalm 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.
Isaiah 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void,
1 Corinthians 16:14 Let all your things be done with love.
John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Genesis 1:26-27
[26]Truth.
I praying God go before you Open her eyes and heart to understand. Receive. And binding the enemy from her reasoning in her mind. I 🙏🏻.
Matt 18:18.
Tell the truth in Love Ephesians 4 : 15
@@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rb I have no idea what you're talking about or what it has to do with my comment...LOL
The truth is, the bible is a collection of clearly fictional stories. It shouldn't be used as a justification for your hatred and bigotry.
Amen!
Ephesians 4:15
15 Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ,
1 Corinthians 1:18
18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
I have some family members who are under this demonic deception culture influence. May they come to the knowledge of the Truth and be set free!!
It is truly horrible what kind of harm come out of the belief in an authority based morality and the idea that all immoralities deserve the highest punishment, from the ones that harm noone to the ones that harmed millions. All equal in the eye of that authority.
If the best reason one has to condemn something as wrong is "this authority said so", especially when they can't even show that authority to exist, then they really have no reason whatsoever.
Frank nor the people in comments have said to harm people we/they disagree with. What is wrong about people having different belief systems? Do you have the moral high ground?
@@shantilus Did I ever day that? Quote me where I said anyone said to harm people they disagree with. Quote my comment.
Argument from emotion fallacy. What you believe is subjective and humanistic so why should i believe your lust-supporting claims?
@@drillyourarguments It wasn't an argument. It was a statement. Only my second paragraph could be considered an argument.
Did you just use the word "humanistic" in a negative way?
"lust supporting claims" elaborate.
Christians think that people who love people of the same sex do so simply out of lust and can’t understand actual love. Homosexual love harms nobody and Christian’s use gods commandments as a platform to support their bigotry and hate. There is no logic behind their claims. Truely disgusting
I think this response needs to be tempered with this scripture from 1Peter. 1Pet. 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect... This scripture clearly says unless you are asked- keep your mouth shut. Let your lifestyle and your LOVE for your neighbor [gay neighbors included] speak eloquently. And if your asked about your thoughts on a Gay lifestyle then you express the Biblical teaching in respect of the person to whom your speaking and with gentleness.
This is much easier said than done. I've tried to tell my family but they don't believe me and they say that we don't know for sure. They tell me not to shove my "religion" down their throats, it ends up turing people away from Christ instead of towards Him. There has to be a way to get through to people so that they actually take you seriously. Ugh so frustrating 🙄
They have to want to, though. That's the thing, all you can do is present them the information and let them decide.
@@Billy-bc8pk that's nice to know, because I hate feeling pressured to convert people.
@@janna4994Yes, if you're feeling apprehensive about stepping too close to converting someone, then it's best to step back and just pray about it. It's super hard (and much easier to write than to do), but sometimes it's also important to pray for the strength so that we can be bold enough to say what we need to say to those who need it said to them.
You have an impossible task. If the people that you are speaking to ask for evidence that what you are saying is true, you need to face the reality that you have virtually nothing except the appalling epistemology of Hebrews 11: 1 faith. That might be sufficient for you but it's not going to be convincing to anyone who isn't indoctrinated.
This reminds me of Lot. Despite being a righteous man, he still cares for his sinful family and wanted to escape Sodom with them.
The sister is an adult and already made the decision. Best is to pray for her and hope for the best. 🙏
"Therefore, a man shall leave his father and his mother, and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh" (Genesis 2:24). "to his wife" (b'ishto in Hebrew, which is feminine), but not to another male.
And that was "wives", not wife. The higher in society a man was the more wives he had.
@@brianpeterson8908 Better for a man to have multiple 'wives' than one T-agate partner. 😏
@@johnharrison6745 Bad news they also had male lovers besides multiple wives. Only prohibition was pedophilia. And there was no prohibition either against lesbians. Many husbands enjoyed a show by their wives. 🤣🤣🤣
@@brianpeterson8908 The ones who were moral, god-fearing, and desirous to do the right thing didn't. 😉
@Quint-ib4nf It's right. 😏
Supporting sin, and not telling the truth is like showing hate, to Love those we care about is to tell them the truth no matter what.
Homosexuality is only a sin to primitive sad sack cults / religions
Love the sinner hate the sin never embrace there lifestyle but make yourself open when they question it..people always come to a point weather it be sexual immorality or addiction they question the fruits of there choices cause sin and self destructive behavior never leads to a peaceful fulfilling life there's always that voice that whispers there's something about what there doing
You are seriously delusional. No gays don't.
@@brianpeterson8908 You're in denial. Yeah they do. 😏
@@johnharrison6745 actually you're just brainwashed and ignorant, your religion is a lie.
@@brianpeterson8908 Actually, you're just wishfully-"thinking". I've forgotten more than you'll ever know; especially after the syphilis works it's way into your brain, like it did with Nietzsche. 🤪
I have this same problem with my adult son (except that he's transgender and believes he is a woman). I've told him he's making a mistake, and so now, we basically have no relationship, as he is taking the perspective that if I can't accept his life choices, he won't have a relationship with me. If I want to talk to him, I have to use his girl's name or he gets upset and refuses to be in the same room with me. I have a choice- pretend he IS a girl, even though I don't believe it- or hold to my beliefs and hope that he will become the prodigal son and return to sanity. Very difficult time for me. He's moved cross-country so it's not a constant battle, but I pray for guidance every night. Perhaps this video was it.
It takes real strength to hold yourself to your own religious beliefs but let someone you love live their own lives.
I hope you will one day put your pride aside and accept your kid for who they are and not who you want them to be.
@@Gek1177
"I hope you will one day put your pride aside and accept your kid for who they are and not who you want them to be."
Put gay pride aside and accept Christian kids for who they are and dont tell them they are "hateful".
You just need to accept the reality that Leviticus 20: 13 makes you a hate filled bigot and that just as you are free to make this choice, other more empathetic people are also free to stay as far away from you as they can.
Only you can change this, but perhaps you just can't wait to be the first to throw that stone.
You can also feel free to reject the teaching of the Bible. You can feel free to throw hateful terms around to make yourself feel superior. But remember, it's not me you disagree with, it's Jesus Christ. In the end, it will lead you to a very dark place. I will add you to my prayers; but if my son decides to warp his body with harsh chemicals and pretend he is something he is not, then I'm not required to help or to encourage him to destroy himself even though it might temporarily repair our relationship. @@downenout8705
I have no pride in this situation. I recognize I failed as a father in raising my son properly, that he now hates his masculinity so much that he decided to take harsh drugs to warp his body to help pretend he is something he is not. But if you are equating "pride" with "being faithful to the word of God", then I take that as quite an (undeserved) complement. @@Gek1177
Its not hate to disagree with certain lifestyle's. Thats a down right lie from Satan
It's not a lifestyle.
And many of you down right hate them, yes.
@@katamas832 What is not a lifestyle?
@@harryfaberHomosexuality
@@katamas832 Explain, in English or French so that we can understand, why it is not a 'lifestyle'.
@@katamas832 if disagreement is hate you are just as guilty as us .
love and support are 2 different things, just because you dont support a lifestyle doesnt mean it's hate...
The high rate of suicide among gay teens is so high because of all that so called 'love'. No it's because you spew hate and bigotry.
You don't have to support the lifestyle of other people.
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The high rate of suicide among gay teens is an evidence that they need help, not reaffirmation
@@Mavors1099 plenty of proof that it's due to the high rate of bigotry, largely religious in origin they are subjected to.
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Basically everybody is bullied, including lgbtqrs harshly bulling religious people, but the suicidal rate is high only on lgbtqrs community.
This hits hard for me because my family is in the same situation with both my sisters who are both bi but are in same sex relationships the biggest problem is that they know exactly how me and our parents feel about it and it almost tore one of my sisters away from us.
How is it a problem that they know how you guys feel about it? It's none of your business really. Your family's rigid religious convictions are the ones tearing them apart from you, not them being bi.
@albusdumbledore219I can't know that which is not evidently true
Provide evidence they exist
@@katamas832with all due respect, why is it that all fall on the religious and not the people who are doing wrongs. If the sisters are bi and in same sex relationships and the family has convictions due to their beliefs, wouldn’t it be wise to respect their beliefs as they should respect them being bi?? Speaking to them that they are doing something wrong is not shoving down religion. They are adults capable of doing the decisions. I am sure you wouldn’t tell a person who suffers from suicidal thoughts that it’s okay for them and follow what they feel. That person would die. So the same is done when we Christians see people in sin. We don’t want to see them take a path that leads to hell, but it is up to them whether they believe that. Same could be said as to the sisters being shoveful of their homosexual relationships to their family with convictions. It is as if they are hungry for approval
@@katamas832
Whatdoya mean it's none of his business?
It's clearly his business when they're his sisters, whether you like it or not!
@@Fedex52738 They aren't doing wrongs. The way he described it makes me think he and the parents were the problem "they know how we feel about it", aka they weren't tapdancing around them because of their religion.
Since many Christians take the mere existance of a homosexual couple as shoveful, I highly doubt that they were actually shoveful.
Too many people believe that disagreement means hatred.
Christianity doesn't 'disagree' it hates and persecutes while trying to terrorize.
@@brianpeterson8908 As it should, in the case of "Sod dough mites". 😏
@Quint-ib4nf Same "secs." twisting.
Love the person not the sin ❤
Love the person, not the religion ❤
It’s all about the approach and knowing your audience. We are to speak the truth but know how to speak to the audience you’re speaking to.
Not much truth goes into what frank rambles on about
@@logicalatheist1065 Can you genuinely say that you have been unbias in your examination of what Frank has said?
@@shantilus yes, frank can't support his claims with anything factual
@@shantilus there's nothing wrong with his sister
@@logicalatheist1065 You can't support your facts within anything that seems logical, so I guess you guys are both 0 and 1.
And here we have another example of people using their religious beliefs to justify bigotry and hatred.
And another example of a mewling g♤¥ man doing the same thing to Christianity.
Short answer is no. Better to tell the truth that hurts and then heals rather than a lie that comforts then kills.
There is probably no God and Chrstianity is a false religion.
Your god is imaginary, that's the truth. Your religion is a lie, that is the truth. Now deal with it.
Anytime homosexuality gets brought up the comment section goes wild. Especially recently with efforts to normalize it.
There are those who will argue at length. We need to remember it isn't our job to convince anyone of anything. We cant. Only the holy spirit can do that. It is impossible to get anyone to accept any truth if they refuse to believe it. It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented. Even if the evidence is absolute.
People do leave the lifestyle. The ones that do, see it for what it is.
It already is normal. It just has to be pounded down on the pathetic bigots, a lot of them happen to be Christian (and other theists) plenty of Atheists as well
@@logicalatheist1065No; it's an aberration, and a 'reversal of polarity' within in "sec. shoe all Lee" dimorphic species. It's also a vile twisting of human "sec.shoe Al lit tea" that makes men behave like parodies of women, and, makes women make themselves look/act like overgrown boys (not men). It SHOULD be "pounded down" by, well, EVERYONE. Anti-theism/New-Atheism should be stamped-out, too. 😏
But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
Love without truth is hypocrisy. Truth without love is brutality. If you love her you'll tell her the truth, gently yet firmly, even at the cost of losing the relationship.
@sterlingfallsproductions3930 your statement is a belief and for you a truth So by your logic you couldn't even talk at all. I was talking about The Truth, that something that is true even if no-one agrees or says it to you.
@sterlingfallsproductions3930 it completely went over your head...I'm talking about the truth that is the truth even if no-one agrees with it, even if nobody told you or me, I'm talking about the truth regardless of our opinions and beliefs
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I see that you have an inability to process objectivity. Don't worry, it happens to a lot of people who are egotistical but unintelligent, so you're not alone.
@sterlingfallsproductions3930 the truth is it's against our very nature and purpose as human beings, you can leave religion alone if you want, but if you disagree with science as well then okk
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 You're reminding me of how pedos say that they will be validated, because homosexuality was. While homosexuals claim that they don't push for pedophilia, they still try to push sexuality and gender identity on children when they are young and impressionable, which is literally the same tactic Hitler used to get Germany on his side-- fooling and using the youths. You likely won't look into the secret drag shows in schools being reported on or children performing in drag shows or children being forced to socially transition when the teacher wants to push transgenderism on children who shouldn't even be burdened with that at such a minor age. Continue turning a blind eye to it, for the sake of social justice. The more you convince yourself that it is what is needed, the farther you lose morality and the quieter the voice in your head telling you that's wrong will become. God wrote His law in our hearts, and you're actively choosing to ignore that for the sake of validation of people who treat you as a tool, rather than a person. I hope you get better.
This could just be edited out, but he never mentioned her age. Cause kids go through all types of phases doesn't always mean that they go through a gay like phase, but they go through several confusing phases all the way up until the end of high school. woman tend to go through this phase the most for several reasons whether it be through friendship, curiosity and even media and this could just be very easily experimental. Most woman young and old through highschool and collegego through this type of phase. So is she just confused and is told that she's gay by someone outside her family cause she's just going through a phase or could it just be that she's confused and has a friend that's in the same boat and they're just curious doesn't mean she's gay?
If so, then so be it. Jesus Christ wants us to be separate from sin. Which means separate from people who sin and won't repent. See also 2 Corinthians 5 I think. (The Scripture warning us about being mismatched with unbelievers.)
"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said:
“I will dwell with them
and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they will be My people.”
“Therefore come out from among them
and be separate, says the Lord.
Touch no unclean thing,
and I will receive you.” II Corinthians 6:14-17
We are all sinners and fall short. Love them. Live the truth as an example. All the while asking forgiveness for the countless sins we commit on a daily basis. Can you imagine if his sister stopped loving him, stopped encouraging him with one of his struggles. How is that any different?
My son got out of the homosexual lifestyle. This is what he says:
I was once a gay man and found Jesus again and left that lifestyle behind. After reading the Bible and having my heart and mind reshaped by God it’s easy to see how even when I was a child in the 90s that these types of indoctrination was present back then. My mother never gave into the “accept your gay child” pressures from everyone around her, and 17 years later I freed myself from homosexuality. God has provided a miracle for my family and because of my mother’s strong and incredible faith. I listened to the ways of the world, but I have been freed from their lies. I used to hate her for not accepting me, but now I see that it’s because of her faith that I am alive today. If you are a parent with a child going through something similar don’t give up your faith for your child. Teach them the ways of Jesus and his promises. After reconnecting and becoming so close with my best friend, aka my mother, again we constantly discuss our perspectives with her over these past 17 years. We see the lies of Satan and the world in plain view. If you are a parent trust and build your faith in Jesus, read his promises and know that if you teach your children when they are young they will return to the Lord when they are older. My testimony speaks to this, my mother’s testimony speaks to this as well. Cling to your faith with all your heart, and pray! I have recently found out after leaving this lifestyle behind how many people have been praying for me all these years. My mothers faith did this, and now I am the prodigal son that had returned home and we now are standing strong in the steadfast love of Jesus, fighting these lies of the World and the lies of Satan! He is the deceiver and will always kill, steal and destroy anyone who chooses to listen to his lies! God didn’t bore you into this type of lifestyle that’s a lie. He made us in his image, he clearly discusses that sexual immorality, homosexuality is a sin, so if we are made in his image then that would prove that you were not bore this way, because God is holy and is without sin!
I know most will say I’m lying to myself about who I truly am, my sister told me this after making a choice to walk away from the gay lifestyle. All I know is since I was baptized on 10/25/95 I have always loved Jesus, but had struggled with this desire, he gave me free will and allowed me to choose and I chose a life that almost killed me, on multiple occasions. But the Holy Spirit never left me even while living in sin, he has protected me from hypoglycemic seizures, and valley fever. I could have easily died on multiple occasions but I am still here. There must be a reasons and I believe it is for my mother and I to tell our story. Many have said my testimony should be a book, but I see it’s more my mother’s story, I am just the proof at the end of the day. Her story is about heartbreak, anger, disappointment, love and mostly faith. She was steadfast in Jesus for so many years, never giving up, never listening to everyone around her. Imagine what strength that requires, and mostly imagine where all that strength that comes from… Jesus! She is my mother, my best friend, and is truly inspirational! She has shown me that faith in our Lord Jesus Christ must be our one true desire and priority! Once you change your perspective on your priorities, he will handle the rest! Because of her, it has shown me how to fix my life, how to escape the clutches of Satan. I say this after making these choices not because of her, but for myself, but now looking back it has been a confirmation reflecting on my choices that choosing Jesus is always the right decision. So if you are someone struggling with same sex attraction or you’re a parent or someone with this issue, read your Bible! Trust in Jesus! Never lose faith! Give thanks and most importantly pray! 🥰♥️
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Sure is, a fornicator IS a fornicator. It's a lifestyle you chose to "engage" in.
Quinn…Are you are deceived and Satan is telling you to think like this
@@D-Bunker-zv1bj that’s your opinion.
Even other former gay people call it a lifestyle choice.
@@Sandyo-wy7nk
God bless you and your son.
Praise the Lord Jesus 🙏❤️ 🙌
@@TomMichael5678 Thank you Tom.
It’s been 17 difficult years, but my son is freed from the lies. deceit, illnesses, sin, anger, unhappiness.
The light of Jesus shines from him. Everyone he meets sees it in him.
He says that lifestyle has nothing to offer but pain and sickness.
We as parents must NOT cave into accepting it or approving of it. Romans 1:32. Matthew 10:37-39.
If we cave in, then chances are higher your child will never be freed from it.
Same thing for any other sin. Never cave into the approval of murder, theft, pedophilia, adultery, prostitution incest, transgenderism, puberty blockers, drugs, alcoholism, porn addictions, etc…,
Stick with God/Jesus no matter what.
Matthew 10:37-39 says
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
Wonderful video. Thank you!
This certainly dispels the false love gospel going around
Love her enough to tell her the TRUTH✝️
Thanks for this.
Amen and God bless
There’s no hate like Christian love
Extremely well said, thank you.
My nephew got sucked into the LGBTQ community a few years ago. He believes he was born a female. I had a few conversations with him about his past, looking for a root cause. Even though he acknowledged some trauma in puberty he decided to transition. Despite sharing the gospel in truth and love he broke all communication with our family. My obedience to Christ is superior to any other relationship I have. Christians have stand for truth regardless of the backlash. I left a voicemail to say my door is always open because I love him. The only thing I can do now is pray.
It sounds like he made a difficult but ultimately brave decision on the face of the religiously motivated bjgotry that has clearly deep roots in his family.
@@Gek1177
What was the brave decision, Gek?
@knotsew5490 no his choice was between God or his sins.
@knotsew5490
And what was his "own true self" all about?
Does common sense evade you?
@knotsew5490
Sickness of the mental kind is talked about all through the Bible and in fact, the New Testament is full of this type of people.
What is there to educate myself on regarding those who deny the objective reality of who they are with their subjective thoughts.
Irrational and nonsensical.
Franks advice is certainly wise. But it is very difficult to follow through in many circumstances. Especially because we all fall short. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.
Everyone takes that verse out of context.
@@kicnbacexactly what I was thinking.
Lmao..... this man thinks he needs to gain "courage" to interrupt his sister's happiness. The arrogance makes my eyes pop, honestly. Turek thinks he has a connection to divine understanding, yet he can't demonstrate A SHRED of how he got that understanding, or why he should trust it. What a pant load!
It truly is pathetic
a thief is happy when he gets new things
a rapist is happy when he gets sex
happiness is COMPLETELY irrelevant if it comes at the cost of doing something immoral
@@gochiuto4416 How about this: if what someone does takes NOTHING from you, it's none of your business. Judge if you want to. But leave folks be.
@@gochiuto4416 there's nothing immoral about homosexuality though, Infact there's nothing wrong with it, can't compare it to that
@@logicalatheist1065 morality is a law created by God
God has said that adultery/fornication goes against moral law
if the creator of something tells you something about it, it's true
Excellent answer to a difficult question.
Why is that question difficult for you?
You can not love someone if you support their nasty lifestyle.
Not a lifestyle, nor is there anything nasty about it
Like your nasty lifestyle in a religious cult? Lifestyle implies choice where none exists. Being gay is who you are the same as being a redhead. Can a redhead change their hair colour... they can fake it but it never really changes.
@@katamas832If that were the case, they would be able to create a linneage and there wouldn't be so many health issues.
@@Billy-bc8pk There aren't any more health issues than with heterosexuals.
And what does creating a linage have to do with nastiness? Standing doesn't create a linage, yet it's not nasty
Wisdom. Thank you
You should tell the truth, but you can't help those who don't want to be helped. There's no reason to obnoxious to the point of destroying your relationships.
Truth is obnoxious to the ones that hate truth.
To your point about being obnoxious. Yes, I suppose that would be a great concern for a self-righteous person, but my guess is a true Christian will think long and hard about the best manner and method for approaching a person caught in sin. Too, we must recall that a person often sees offense where none is intended. Rather than deal with their sin, they often deflect by saying we aren't respecting/loving them because we're not approving their actions. It's a classic method of criminals: blame "the system" for not being perfect when they commit a crime rather than own up to their misdeed.
I like the approach Dr. Turek suggests in this video: ask their permission to tell them about the issue first. A person who genuinely seeks truth will welcome constructive feedback from those around them. So give them God's truth in love. We may not convey everything 100% perfectly, but I'd rather make the attempt, however clumsy to get the message through and repent of my clumsiness rather than some day have that person ask, "Why didn't you ever try to tell me how wrong this was?" and bear the guilt of my cowardice which causes them to suffer. To make a poor analogy, I'd rather tackle a person off the train tracks and break a few of their ribs in the process instead of sitting idly by and watch the train hit them just because I don't have any way to "soften" the blow.
@@chloemartel9927Is that why homophobes moan so much about LGBTQ being in front of them?
@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 yeah you are a hypocrite. Your family is telling you truth, so you reject the truth and family. You are the problem.
We are sin we have a sinful nature we are supposed to worked on sin are whole life we will mess up.@@sterlingfallsproductions3930
Got relatives & a friend who believe “showing love” (accepting their relationship) is the most important thing since we are Christians.
Love the person not the sin; it's important to rebuke the sinner when they attempt to condone and/or justify the sin.
I was once at a church where the pastor threatened to get a restraining order on me simply because I sad that I have SEEN homosexuality take place in the church! You know : the haven for sinners, the hospital that attracts sick people! When I first saw this, it was with a teenager who’s father was the music leader in his church and he had NO CLUE of what was really going on in his house during his daughter’s slumber parties! I found out years later that his son became a cross dresser. The church needs to pull their head out of their keesters and WAKE UP!
If it's a good relationship that is important to her, support it. ❤
All these people sharing stories about how they oh so nobly shattered their family because of a loved one's sexuality, they're horrendous people. If you're reading this and you told someone "The Truth," then you should be ashamed. Your sin is greater than anything that happens in your loved one's bedroom. If you think they're going to hell, then the least you could do is save them a good spot for when they meet you there.
@lohhe6532 - How do you explain "speak the truth in love?" Jesus also told people the truth. He said it in a way that is often much kinder than we do, but he said some hard things to people. Sexuality does matter. You cannot practice sexual immorality and expect anything less than God's judgment.
Horrendous is the absolute kindest way to describe people like that.
@knotsew5490 - Hi there. Thank you for responding. I do not find the argument that something is "acceptable" because it is found in nature, persuasive. Human morals/behavior cannot be judged based on what happens in nature or the animal kingdom. Animals are not people. People were created in the image of God. Animals were not. We are expected by God to behave in ways in keeping with God's ways, values, morals. God gave the 10 commandments to show His righteousness and holiness to all of mankind. Because man falls short of God's standard of holiness/righteousness as found in the 10 commandments, we are declared guilty before God and rightly deserve His wrath and condemnation that will be poured out against all skin and ungodliness. The penalty for not keeping God's standard of holiness, is an eternity in hell separated from the love of God, the mercy of God, and the grace of God. What a person will face is the complete Justice of God. You will not receive more than you deserve but you will not receive less than you deserve either. All human beings have fallen short of the glory of God and are objects of wrath. Because God is full of Love and Righteousness and He does not want anybody to perish apart from him redemption, he sent His Son, Jesus Christ, as the substitute/sin bearer to live a fully righteous life (He lived up to all of God's standard of Holiness, the 10 commandments), and when he died on the cross, God placed on him the sins of the world and Jesus paid the penalty for that sin in Hell, so nobody who believes in Him will perish. After all our sins were paid for, God the Father saw Jesus (the sinless soul that He was) and raised him from the dead per Leviticus 18:5 - keep my statutes and my judgments, by which a man may live if he does them; I am the LORD.
Jesus is our Righteous Redeemer and when we confess with our mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in our heart God raised him from the dead, we will be saved. I pray you hear the truth because I am not trying to scare you, malign you, or hurt you. I am trying to warn you about the future after you die.
It is appointed once for man to die and after that the judgment. God is keeping a record of everything every single person does, good and bad, and if you die without Jesus Christ, you will face judgment at the Great White Throne Judgment and all the books recorded for your life on earth will be opened along with the Book of Life, and if your name is not found in the Book of Life, you will pay for all your own sins for eternity in the Lake of Fire, where there is no escape. I trying to warn you.
God is good, just, and loving and He has made a way of salvation for every single person on this planet through all the ages because he does not want anybody to perish, but He allows each person to have free choice to accept God and His ways or reject Him. If you reject God's way of salvation, you will bear your own penalty for sin and God is Just. You will reap what you have sown on earth.
I do not want you to die without Christ. That is why I am telling you the Gospel message, so you can hear the message and seek the truth.
Amen
@knotsew5490 - There are many things written in Scripture that God said that I do not understand and I do not always like myself. I was reading in Job this morning and it is hard to read that God allowed Satan to incite harm against Job and God knew it and allowed it. It is hard for me to understand such things, but I am not God. He is not me. His ways are higher than my ways. I believe He knows something I do not know, and if I understood everything with His wisdom, I would do the same things, so ultimately, I believe God as God has the right to decide what happens and how it happens and he gets to tell people how to live, what to do, and yes, even to the point that if there are slaves how they are to be treated. I do not understand everything, but I believe God does not have to justify himself to me, and He does not have to adjust Himself to me. I must adjust myself to Him.
Your wants of not believing in Christ are your wants and you are given free choice to exercise those, and you may live apart from Jesus, but there is a Judgment Day, and every single human being will face it. Every person will see God face-to-face, and it would be better to face a loving Father than just a Just Judge.
Your suggestion that two adults in a loving relationship does not harm themselves or others is not a proveable statement because human beings hurt each other all the time without realizing it, intending it, or even knowing it. When a person manifests a "hurt" that second is not when he was hurt. That is only when he feels it. He was hurt before that, but never even knew it. That type of stuff happens all the time. Cancer is like that. Disease is like that. Drugs are often like that. Sexually transmitted diseases are like that. The injury happens but there is a delayed reaction before the consequence is felt. I agree a person can engage in a homosexual relationship on earth for decades and everything "appears" ok, but God through His Holy Word, has said the problem will manifest after that person dies, and every single person living will die. It is unavoidable. That is what I am trying to point out.
We will not escape the Judgment of God.
I wish you all the best and thank you for responding
Pretty good opening statement to start a heavy conversation.
When my brother "came out" I tried to tell him the truth. It isn't who he really is. Its your flesh. Your flesh isn't who God says you are. Those who walk by the Spirit will not gratify the desires of the flesh. He didn't care. Long before he finally came out, he fully committed to it. That's the thing with ANY sin. If you keep it in and don't talk to anybody, the longer it stays a secret, the deeper the hold it gets on you.
The worst part is he never talked in a swishy way like homosexuals do. Now he's moved about 15% over to the swishy speech and it makes me want to throw up just listening to him.
To make it worse, he doesn't see the devil is working to make him as comfortable as possible. He and his boyfriend are now making good money. They go on vacations a lot. He's sitting good in this life. The dangerous part about this is comfortable people almost never cry out to God. Typically, only those suffering cry out to God.
Sin is an imaginary I’ll that religion offers an imaginary cure for. Your only existence is on this planet, btw.
@@palepants9475 it's much more likely that the devil convinced you to cut your own brother down than rather than the devil being responsible for giving your brother a loving and, happy life.
@knotsew5490Your statement makes no sense. If there is actually a God, and he is the source of truth, then saying things in alignment with God would indeed be true.
You making an assertion about God and Christianity being a cult doesn’t make it so. There is much more evidence that “a” God exists than does not.
For example, why something exists rather than nothing, the origin of the universe, the fine-tuning of the universe, the origin of life, the existence of objective moral values and duties, the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus from the dead, etc. are all strong evidence of a designer of the universe, AKA, God.
And if there is a God, then your personal preferences do not cancel out what God shows humanity is true.
@@brianpeterson3884 Where is your proof? Yeah, that's what I thought. Let me guess: everything also came from nothing. 😂😂
When you truly love someone, you are not content to let them live in error. 1 John 4:18 "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love." A person that truly loves their family or friends is willing to face the fear of losing them so they can know the truth. If they're not willing to do so, they are allowing selfish fear to control them. I know that my parents love me because they never hesitated to discipline me and teach me right or wrong when I was a child, which caused me to love them the more as I became a man.
You're the uncle that is sent to the living room to eat with the children, at family gatherings, I'd say.
@knotsew5490
"Your "truth" is about making people feel worse about themselves"
Do what thou wilt mentality. Are feeling supposed to trump facts?? youre illogical.
Hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak people, weak people make hard times.
Feeling-driven people with the logic and IQ of animals will certainly make hard times.
Teach someone they evolved from animals, they are prone to behaving like animals.
@knotsew5490
Don't confuse what is with what could be, please. And your assumption that gayness is a gene is unproven. It's just another leftist lie to promote slavery-to-desires.
Well said!
Good riddance for the sister. How hateful you have to be to not be able to tolerate your family having different beliefs and religion. Cult like crazy.
Prove existence of said hate.
Your post is based on emotion and belief, not logic and fact. Like almost every sin-defender comment here.
Where exactly is this passage in 1 Corinthians? My KJV Bible has something completely different:
“ Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.”
He was quoting the 6th verse of the 13th chapter of '1 Corinthians'.
I have a son who cut me and my wife out of his life about 7 yrs ago due to us not embracing his homosexual lifestyle. We have no way to contact him except by email and we are not even sure that this email address is valid because he never responds to us He lives in another country and we pray for him daily to come back to faith in the Lord and back to us. I also have a precious niece whose daughter is in a gay relationship and she won't talk to her mom due to her mom not embracing her homosexuality. Unfortunately, those in this lifestyle are taught in the gay culture to cut people out of their life who don't agree/embrace their homosexuality. They claim to be tolerant but are only tolerant towards those who agree with them. The young man in this video must choose to please God before his sister (which means not embracing homosexuality as being good, pure and lovely) but let his sister know that in spite of differing views he still wants to have a loving relationship with her. He then will have to let the chips fall where they may. Hopefully, his sister is more mature and tolerant than the other two I mentioned.
Yeah, I don't think it's just not agreeing/not embracing going on there if it happens twice lol. But it sure is a nice sugar coating often used.
Good for them.
Why would any of them want to be with you? Imagine them everyday telling you they don't believe in your imaginary god or that you are deceived and your love for them isn't real? At some point you will get enough from it and will want to get away. Cutting you away from their lives was the best thing that could happen for both sides. I don't see a reason to complain about it.
What a load of BS. As a gay man, I can tell you no one is taught by the community to cut out family. Family does that all on their own because you do not know enough to stop. Accept your role and stop being weak. You cannot disagree with who I am to the core. That is the problem. You have no right to offer opinions as you know nothing of this world.
“Those in this lifestyle are taught in the gay culture to cut people out of their life who don’t agree/embrace their homosexuality.” Utter nonsense. You’re a terrible person and a terrible parent.
They cut people like you out because you are toxic to their lives. It has nothing to do with "g~y culture" and everything to do with religious fundamentalism.
If you were a better person there's be no need to fit you out. But instead you can't put aside your religious beliefs enough to just love your own son.
You don't need to confront her lifestyle. You need to give her the gospel which is the only thing that can save. Sin is the transgression of the law. Therefore to tell someone they need to turn from sin is telling them they need to keep the law. They need to believe the gospel. Idc what their lifestyle is at least believing the gospel will save their soul. But also if they believe then God goes to work on them.
Take a step back and read what you have written. Is there a chance that your conviction just might be the problem?
Your gospel is the insane rantings of Bronze Age clerics afraid of losing their influence, in th 5th century BCE.
@@brianpeterson3884good luck with that.
@@Theo_Skeptomaiwhat do you disagree with?
Good luck with history? Another ignorant of the origins of its own holy book Christian.🤣@@thomasharp3246
Answer to title: yes. It would be terrible if you didn't support her
I'll be covering these topics on Same Attraction and Homosexuality and how Christians live with them
If she’s happy, be happy for her. Literally the only thing you can do in life is make choices that make you happy.
Amen to that
What if the shoe were on the other foot?
What if your sister tells you that she knows your religion disapproves of her personal relationship, and that she can't tolerate that? And that if she has to choose between the love of her life and you and your religion, she will choose her partner? How would you react to that?
“If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
John 15:18-19
@@Doc-Holliday1851 👏👏👏
@@HUNTSMARTFASTHARD this means everything. We are promised that the world will hate and persecute those who speak the truth. If his sister did that to him it would be the fulfillment of that promise.
@@Doc-Holliday1851 Amen! Jesus already warned us.
@@Doc-Holliday1851
So if the Koran said the world will hate those who spread the truth of the Koran, would that make the Koran true if people didn’t believe it?
Always on point!!
"Hey Frank, my sister has a same sex relationship and seems very happy and enjoying the moment all the time.
I have failed in telling her all of my religious dogma. How do I gain the courage to insert my religion of choice into her life and tell her she is going to burn in hell for eternity if she does not stop her happy ways? How can I tell her that without her hating me and ruining our relationship?"
Very sad example of how Christianity inflicts harm on society. If he ends up losing his relationship with his sister he would only have himself to blame.
Maybe his sister is wondering how she can deal with a brother who harasses his family with his religious nonsense.
Prove it is religious nonsense
@@7Minish Prove it is not.
@@anguschiggins2161 I didn't say anything, you made the statement you prove it
@@7Minish I didn't make a claim. I offered my opinion and I speculated that maybe his sister didn't want to deal with his brothers religious nonsense. I do not know these people, purely speculation.
@7Minish it is religious nonsense. Nothing wrong with homosexuality.
Tell the Truth
What's the truth?
The truth is that there's nothing wrong with being LGBTQ+ whatsoever.
@@Mavors1099 The answer is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the way, and the truth, and the life. Tell people about the biblical Jesus Christ and about repentance.
@@bigjoegamer
That's nonsense.
"My sister seems happy but I know god can fix all that."
Theism in a nutshell, folks.
a thief is happy when he gets new things
a rapist is happy when he gets sex
happiness is COMPLETELY irrelevant when it comes at the cost of immorality
not only that but openly embracing sin can cause you to love sin more, loving sin more can cause you to pick sin over God, being without God is being in hell
trying to stop someone from picking an eternity in hell is definitely a good thing
1 Corinthians 13:6 NASB95
Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
It doesn't matter what the Bible says
@@logicalatheist1065 that’s your opinion and you have that right. But don’t steal the Bible’s morality.
@@IHIuddy why would I steal morality from the bible? My standards are MUCH higher
@@logicalatheist1065 It doesn’t get any higher.
@@IHIuddy then you're delusional.
The bible is a very poor standard. The book character you call god isn't even that... Too much fiction.
Beyond claiming god calls it a sin, there is zero credible argument to calling 🌈 wrong.
This is manipulation to get a person to agree with you. Turek is a manipulation artist.
@albusdumbledore219 You missed my point. But yes, your god h8te's 🌈. You are not wrong.
Well God say it is sin several times, if you choose to reject Him you will just end up with the one deceiving you, see how that work for you in the long run.
@@andrevisser7542 I think I will be just fine.
@@ShiniGuraiJoker, I know you will regret it.
@@andrevisser7542 Yes, because you think I am bound for eternal suffering. I accept eternal nothingness probably waits for all of us and I am fine with it
We have this very situation in our family my only granddaughter 😢 I’ve told her mum & brothers almost the same as Frank but it’s difficult for them, just like the lad speaking to Frank. She knew Jesus but I don’t know if she ever made Him Lord 😭 sadly she won’t have anything to do with me. One grandson thinks it’s shame. Though I still send txt msgs of “truth in love” to her.
Maybe you should grow up enough to be her own person.
This isn't about truth and love it's about pride, you think your beliefs are more important than having a relationship with your granddaughter.
That's not love.
@@Gek1177 progressive mind hey🤦🏻♀️ you know nothing ! You presume to much about people you know nothing about! You have nothing to loose! She is not your family ! You have NO LOVE OF MY GRANDDAUGHTER you don’t care she’s depressed, you don’t care she has rejection issues from her childhood ! You flat out DON’T CARE! however our family love and care about her we want her to learn to love herself, to not be suicidal so as not take her life before it time! Don’t reply I have nothing more to say let alone justify myself to you sir/madam/it??.
@@jangaroo777 I know enough about you for what I said to be true.
Try to overcome your pride, you don't have to stop having your religious beliefs to be present in your granddaughter's life. You just have to love her more than your pride.
@@Gek1177 maybe you should leave Grandma alone and let her be her own person which is being faithful to God in all things.
@@chloemartel9927 or maybe shell think about what I said and find a way to set her ego aside to build a relationship with her granddaughter and everyone will be happier for it.
A clear demonstration of how immoral this religion is. Not only is Frank advocating splitting up a loving relationship between two people of the same sex but God's directives could mean the destruction of the bond between a brother and sister. Any God that insists on this blind obedience is not worthy of respect.
Very well, hell is the place for you.
Well it is always your choice, you either live by God's rules and spend eternity with Him or you can follow the deceiver and join him for a long time.
Do you know what a ‘heaven’ full of people like you is? It’s hell!@@7Minish
@@andrevisser7542another reason your god is evil.
if you tell someone that they're doing something immoral and they hate you for telling them the truth
it's not the one telling the truth that's bad
I am in a situation with similar difficulties. One of my close Christian friends has a son who decided to transition to a female. She now calls him by his girl name and refers to him as her/she and accepts everything he's doing, while saying she doesn't agree with it. I've told her what I thought, like Frank's response here, but it has had no affect. Now, her son is coming to volunteer with us and I am expected to do the same she does. Not sure what to do. He's not a relation to me, or even a friend. I don't want to cause a fuss in this volunteer situation... it's a rough one. 😞 Anyone have guidance? Maybe a similar situation?