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- Опубликовано: 24 июн 2024
- A Labour candidate has been suspended after the Gambling Commission announced it has launched an investigation.
Kevin Craig, who is running to become an MP in the Central Suffolk and North Ipswich seat, has been suspended by Labour pending the outcome of the investigation.
It's a seat that was previously held by ex-Tory Dan Poulter, who defected to Labour ahead of the election but announced he will not stand again.
A spokeswoman for Labour said the move came after the party was contacted by the Gambling Commission.
It's believed the bet concerned the outcome of the election in his own constituency, more specifically, that Mr Craig was betting against himself to lose the seat.
It comes as five more police officers have been accused of placing bets on the timing of the election.
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That caller who took the time to ring in to say she doesn't understand what all the fuss is - Jesus wept. How much corruption is too much for her? What a thicko.
Did the Labour bloke break the law?
What got me was that she sounds like the wife of one of the MPs implicated 😂
@@bobikdylan learn the difference between a moral wrong and a legal wrong
Extremely a thicko or a clever client manipulator
@@bobikdylanno more or less than the conservatives. Both placed bets based on insider information.
A Tory wouldn't call this betting. They would call it hedging.
They would call it making money in their last hours
It doesn’t matter what the tories would call it, it wasn’t a tory it was labour.
Tbf Starmer did exactly what he said he would
Credit it to him, it's less performance than the other way around.
And yet acting instantly and definitely will somehow be considered worse that Sunaks fortnight of doing nothing.
And now the onslaught of right wing trolls.
@@EdJames-tb9oz Three weeks actually, Sunak knew a week before the news broke.
No.... you mean Starmer had no choice to suspend him.... if this was the first betting claim, Starmer would be doing exactly what Sunak has done
@@breamoreboy I was subtracting a week for Sunak to actually understand the information.
Starmers instant response makes Sunak look even more inept.
And how much will you bet that Rishi Sunak will attack Starmer over it in tomorrows debate?
(It's ok we are not candidates or close police protection).
No it doesn’t he had no choice after all the noise Labour made, do you honestly think people are daft lol
@@robertaskew3677 Around 20% of people according to recent polling.
Exactly this. It's the (as I'm coining it) "Cold soup" analogy.
Imagine you're in a restaurant and you order some hot soup, then when it arrives it's cold.
There are two reactions from the restaurant:
1. (The Starmer) Immediately apologize and replace the soup
2. (The Sunak) Spend 20 minutes denying the soup is cold whilst getting tetchy at the customer and shouting "Judge me on my soup record!!"
In either case you start with a bad soup, but the true mark of a business (and a politician) is not what they do when everything's fine, but how they respond when it isn't.
@kevin A set up? He will make a bit of money and Starmer gets another brownie point.
Wow. That lady really doesn't want to hear about active corruption in a political party.
Final caller evidently not phased by corruption. Must be a Tory voter.
I'd check to see if she started a brand new company in 2020 and received a government PPE contract 🙂
Is “delusional” a requirement of being labour?
Starmer did what he said he would do, Also the guy didn't bet on something he was told in confidence , not the same at all
The problem is he can influence the outcome of the bet. Don't get me wrong it is very unlikely that he got in or that he would sabotage his campaign to win a bet but it is still very much illegal and considered inside trading. Atleast I think it is
the times news paper today' front page is Labour candidate in betting scandal. No mention of issue with betting for last two weeks when Tories were doing it! Pathetic
This is perfect for Starmer, he gets to put his money where his mouth is, and attack Sunak further saying "see how easy that was?".
No, it’s the worst thing he wanted. Just fuels the “all the same” arguments. Because let’s be honest they are.
@@jaybee4288they literally are not, one is richer than the king, the other is a regular guy who plays football and his family work in the NHS. Keeping parroting they are all the same is so boring by this point.
@@andrewd4748 Its not about how rich they are. When folk say "They're all the same" they're talking about how they behave. The "Westminster Bubble" is a pretty general term that describes it. The idea is that they all think the same, they all behave the same. Its a club that has one rule for them and another for everyone else. It makes people concerned that the people in charge of the country cannot understand the plight of the average person, and that is really bad (and quite dangerous) in a democracy.
@@AegisK of course it is about how rich they are, no one with a billion to their name can possibly understand the issues of daily life to someone on assured shorthold tenancy agreements, that is a ridiculous idea
Betting on something you can influence is despicable and definitely shows that both labour and Tory are corrupt
American here. Pete Rose, aka Charlie Hustle, has around 25% of baseball records dedicated to hitting; he was one of baseball's all-time pure hitters. He bet against himself as a player and as a manager. He will never be in the Hall of Fame.
People were prepared to fight for him if he had only bet on his team to win. No one will fight for you if you bet on yourself to lose.
Sounds like Lauren is a tory voter. Or a tory Councillor and Sunak has got her to ring in
Just epic. These people can't help themselves can they. 😂
The context is different with the Tory bets
@bendaniel2271 it always is when you speak to lefty supporters..
I'll give you it's slightly different but this proves they are all the same its so corrupt just like expenses
Starmer has carried out exactly what he said he would do which makes the tories look inept
This is clearly illegal but there is something so very British about this. "I'm backing myself to utterly fail".
Honestly though, it feels close to an insurance policy! If I don't get enough votes to get my deposit back, if I put x on my opponent then I still come out ahead....
But is it?
@@neilbiggs1353 This is the kind of entrepreneurship that Britain needs!
@@bobikdylan It is. No American would ever back themselves to lose.
@@PaulK-ve1pu lol!
So we are going to have a word with SUNAK betting against his own country when he was grifting on the trading floor?
Imagine betting on yourself to lose
Fixed sports, many used to do it.
It’s easier to manufacture a loss than a win. Just score an own goal.
I don’t think people were expecting him to win it anyway
Just proves he has no faith in what he's pushing but does believe in making money over helping constituents
Last caller is just shockingly baaaad
At least the Labour candidate has been immediately suspended. Sunak dithered for a couple of weeks before acting.
THREE WEEKS!
And yet the Diane Abbott letter in a newspaper took over a year to conclude.
Why couldn't that have been as quick?
@@dftfirebecause in the end given her treatment and truth behind the scenes, she was right. (Completely inappropriately worded.
@@dftfire Different things.
There are specific gambling laws in the UK (insider trading) so actual Offences occur.
The Abbot affair was internal and not involved in criminal law. Also a large chunk of that was Abbott not co-operating with the Labour disciplinary committee (which is not influenced by the Labour leadership by the way. The party changed that after the disastrous Corbyn tenure).
How long did it take her to complete a Hour long eLearning module on anti-Semitism? Four months.
For what? What illegal activity took place? Are you saying he has insider knowledge that he will be elected...in that case all the constituency is also implicated? Come on tell us?
that last caller is particularly thick.
That caller and her husband, who "don't care" about the integrity, morality and potential illegality of politicians and officials is everything that's wrong with British society today. The TikTok generations' apathy when it comes to holding our representatives, officials and law enforcement to the highest possible standard is a miserable indictment of our society. I don't think its going too far to say they should reflect and feel ashamed of themselves.
Maybe I've become cynical but it wouldn't surprised me if that call was engineered by the Tory party.
How did we go from middle aged elderly callers being apathetic to blaming the new generations? That's some top quaility lateral thinking.
@JasonAtlas I'm middle-aged. All ... and I mean all, of my peers Tiktok. So, not so much lateral thinking as observation. No one has raised the 'new generations', other than you, friend. Regardless, the point remains.
@@Winteriscoming... I'd mistakenly assumed you meant generation z when you typed 'tiktok generation' my apologies.
@@JasonAtlas np 👍
Betting against his own self-interest, the equivalent of British people voting for Brexit or throwing your own prize fight.
Or SUNAK betting against the UK ECONOMY.
Or what about Jacob Rees-Mogg? Everyone seems to forget that Rees-Moggs investment firm effectively betted against the U.K. economy in 2019 to the profit of millions.
We have had a hedge betting PM for ages. Disaster capitalism has been a major part of life for way too long. I'm happy to see the mould scrubbed away. That reminds me to clean my shower.
Lauren, so what DOES matter to you if basic fraud doesn’t? 🤯
Starmer kept his word, unlike Sunak who is a terrible leader.
If someone does not have the ethics not to place illegal bets, then why would you trust them to make public policy?
Betting against yourself could be “insider trading” if you purposely lose.
Laura showing off the smoothness of her brain
If he'd bet against himself a couple of years ago and for himself this week he might have been quids in either way.
Betting on yourself to lose is not the same as using inside information to bet. if that scandal hadn't been exposed then it would not have been seen as an issue.
How is it not? He had inside information, he could look at the specific polling Labour had done, he could have been in contact with Labour HQ, all internal information a normal person placing a bet wouldn't have.
And arguably it's worse. While he can't guarantee the outcome he can affect it unlike the random MPs who bet on when the election would be. Unless they were advising Sunak they couldn't change the outcome. Betting on losing means you can do badly on purpose.
It's the equivalent of a sportsman voting against his own team. There's a risk they they could act to try and bring about the desired result.
Amazing how many people don't understand that. If you bet to win at least the expectation is you'll do your best rather than your worst.
@@cupguin I understand that but don't you know that this guy was betting that he'd lose, so the risk is that he'd do his best to lose. Not the desired position for a chosen Labour Party candidate.
Cost of living crisis.
From top to bottom.
Hardly the same thing. He put a bet on his own performance, he didn't bet using insider information. Plus Starmer dumped him immediately, Sunak did sweet FA for over a week.
I hope the improbable MP that's been suspended is sent an invoice buy the Labour party for their wasted deposit.
huh so a party leader can punish bad behavior right away.
I thought they had to wait a few weeks first.
Illegal if I remember rightly because he could effect the result. However he could bet on the other constituencies. I used to work for Coral bookmakers a while ago and I don't believe anything has changed since then.
Betting against yourself is more a joke than anything else
“ you better you better you bet” The Who 🎧
Imagine what would happen if you suspended everyone who had a police investigation. They would have accusations from all over just so that they were then suspended from their party, which would lend credence to the nonsense claims.
I am reminded of that iconic scene in the film Casablanca where corrupt local police chief (Claude Rains) raids Rick's club, blows a police whistle and shouts "I am shocked, shocked to find that there is gambling going on here".
This has been a bonkers campaign.
The problem is a society addicted to gambling.
Was the caller complaining a conservative campaign advisor or something??? 😂
This seems ridiculous, why did the betting agencies take a bet where the chances of a labor win should be ludicrous. Unless they feel any Tory seat can be lost.
If you look at the detailed boring report part of the recent MRP polls only 29 seats fall outside the margin for error. That means that the tories could win as little as 29 seats just with current polling. If we get more people tactically voting that number could go lower.
He can control the outcome if he chooses to bet on himself losing. How is this not clear?
The obvious thing here is as a candidate he could "throw" the election by doing something dumb like betting against himself. He'd have been better aced to have bet on a win at least that way he couldn't realistically falsely affect the result
One innocent explanation is he "hedged" his salary. As in, if he loses his job as an MP, he wins a sum of money to be used like a redundancy payment. It's quite a stretch though, most smart Tories have already left the party 😂
A set-up to make Stalmer look more decisive than Sunak?
Was that Laura Saunders phoning in?
He could wear a clown suit and declare himself to be an alien, to nake sure he loses.😂😂
Shows just how everyday betting is these days. There is far too much of it around and particularly advertising of it seemingly everywhere with next to no care about the devastating consequences.
It's totally crazy, but it's a different bet. The Tories have bet on a point of fact, he hasn't.
At last, someone describing the Tory behaviour correctly, insider trading!
“I’m shocked that labour is involved in a conflict of interest and doesn’t even believe in their own rhetoric” said no one ever
You could just about get a cigarette paper between the tories and Labour!
Jail
This is almost worse
This is leadership, if this was Tory party they would’ve said “independent commission, investigate etc etc BS BS BS”
Labour will tax your pension, your savings, your investments and your inheritance. RIP Great Britain.
That is the most labour bet I've ever seen
In theory the candidate could throw the election to win the bet. It wouldn't make sense in practice.
10/1 says it was worth it. 6 weeks of canvasing paid for by campaign funding followed by a 2 week cruise paid for by the bet winnings sounds about right.
it’s illegal to gamble on yourself according to the gambling rules
There are corrupt people everywhere. And power corrupts. The question is how a party/institution responds to corruption.
Bet on himself to lose fantastic lol 😂 it would be funny if he was using reverse psychology, all the Tory’s that spit on him every day in that constituency vote for Labour and make him lose the bet but I doubt he’s that smart, it would have been fair game to bet on himself to win because that’s what we teach kids better on yourself you can do it be confident go for it bet on yourself u can do it, but to bet against yourself lol 😂 what a plum
It seems that Craig can materially influence the result in his seat by making himself unelectable and thereby increase the chance of his bet winning. This has to be a criminal infringement of gambling legislation. It's the same as a jockey throwing a race.
All as bad as each other
Lauren from Bristol depressing us all.
Where's Brenda from Bristol? I shudder to think what she's have to say regarding the events of the last almost 5 weeks, although it seems much longer to me.
L is for Labour, L is for Lice, bless you Harry Enfield!
Not quite the same - does not have inside knowledge like Tories but still bad and needed action.
To be fair, betting against your success provides a nice tidy consulation prize to help make yourself feel better. That is genius on another level.
Are you sure the last caller wasn't Laura Kunsburgh or Fiona Bruce?🙄
He said the winnings would go to charities- do you believe him because I don't.
Love how people are saying "well they didnt break the law".
It's the principal, the oral obligation we would expect from our MPs.
It deep rooted corruption where people can think they get away with it and because it not legally worng doenst mean its not wrong!
If someone bets on themselves winning, and can demonstrate they tried their best to win. Is it still wrong?
I don’t think so. People wouldn’t have an issue with betting on yourself to win, because worst case you actually try harder. It’s far easier to lose on purpose. If I bet I’m not going to win the lottery, I can just put straight numbers or not buy a ticket. If I bet on myself to win!? I have to try harder.
Wtaf is up with these people?
Angela said it was a non story, it was/is a non story investigated twice at the taxpayers expense
He's been suspended from Labour and removed as a candidate
Footballers that bet on football (not even their own games) get big suspensions. So, for me, if politicians are betting on politics, etc, they should never be able to hold a seat even as an independent.
Last caller is a plant
Are you talking biological or otherwise?😮😮😂😂😂
He could stop campaigning to win, like a football player betting on his 3:rd league team to loose against Barcelona
What a pillock! Should resign.
Bizarre. Bonkers.
As a Central Suffolk resident, I have to say that I was surprised this individual was our Labour Party candidate. He smelled Lib Dem. Perhaps he is?
I think this will move from being PartyGate to The Expenses Scandal I think theres probably going to be 50+ people eventually.
I think that the reason sunak took so long to act is now that he’s suspended two candidates he has to suspend every other candidate that comes out. If a few safe seat candidates get dropped this could crush the Conservative party
This is the ultimate uber insider trader
You shouldn't be allowed to bet on something where you could influence the result. That's the reason in sport, participants aren't allowed to bet either to win, lose, or any other event in the contest. There were cases of people placing bets to be the first player in a football game to be given a yellow card, but that broke the rules on participants being able to bet on an outcome. The law needs to be changed here. With only another 9 days to go, I think, in retrospect, Sunak's decision to (a) call an election for July and (b) have 6 weeks' campaigning will go down as one of the worst gambles ever made in political history.
Need more evidence that Labour and Conservatives are two sides of the same coin?
Members from BOTH parties first thought is how can 'I' make some money out of this.
People have just 9 days to wake up!
Stammer said Education needs Reform;
Stammer said the NHS needs Reform;
Stammer said Housing needs Reform;
Stammer said the Police needs Reform;
Stammer said Parliament needs Reform;
Stammer said the House of Lords needs Reform
Stammer said Immigration needs Reform;
Listen to him. If Stammer can see it, then so can you.
Vote Reform UK
He knows the the count is fixed
No sports people can bet on anything even close to what they compete in
He could deliberately behave in a way to secure his loss , that would be like a boxer taking a fall
He could.certainly do that, but the question is Did he? Is there any evidence this guy has been trying to lose?
Lauren from Bristol 🤦♂This is the caliber of voter in the UK
2:34 - I wasn't expecting that pronunciation of Gillingham
After this the Tories have done a “hold my beer” with another senior advisor and a cabinet minister literally bragging he’s won £2k…
Which betting site taking these bets
I think there is a clear distinction between the investigations into Conservative and Labour politicians in recent years. Starmer and Raynar have both been investigated for legal / morals acts with a hint of breaking a technicality. Zahawi and these gamblers have been investigated for illegal / immoral acts. Also, if the Conservatives want to take the high (moral) road, why do they excuse their behaviour by emulating Labour? If Labour was wrong to NOT suspend Raynar, does that make it right for the Conversatives to do the same?
Electoral Calculus give Labour a 48% chance of winning in Suffolk Central and Ipswich North, with the Tories on 51%. He could have actually lost his bet.
Lauren comes across as having cobwebs inside her skull
Haha.. the legacy media trying desperately to justify it 🤦♂️
I don't blame him - whatever the result, he would be a winner!
To the last caller, Standards in public life matter. If we don't dedicate time to holding people and parties to account about their actions as well as their policies we let the attitude of invulnerability that develops deeper corruption swell.
Just think how many more are at it but will not get caught out . Thats both tory and lab
It's a coping mechanism.
I often bet against my heart. That way there is a consolation if I don't get what I want. Like betting on Exeter losing to Plymouth when I really want Exeter to win.
There is nothing there. They always like looking at both sides.