We’re just two months away from Apple revealing their iPhone 17 lineup. So here’s all the new features we can expect to see based on the latest rumors and leaks.
hear me out tho, I miss light phones I'm dayling an a55 and it's thicc (that comes with upsides, the speakers compared to the iPhone 12 base are chef kiss, they sound amazing and full, they don't distort at all at full volume)
To make the phone even thinner, they should move the battery into the "Camera bump", since that doesn't count toward the total thickness for some reason.
Is that actually true or is it simply because the camera bump is ONE portion of the phone, not the whole phone actually contributing to a massive sizing of the phone? It's apple so I expect there to be some fuckappleray going on. *Disregard if that's explained here, I'm about to watch the video, you're the second comment I seen upon a quick scroll down.
@Very_Nosey He's a schill for being calm? Sounds more like he's being honest with how little excitement most of Apple's phones have stirred up. Do you want him to start jumping with joy and enthusiasm cuz Apple moved the logo down a bit?
I just wish they'd make the phone thicker to eliminate the bump and give us fantastic battery capacity. Extra weight is a subconscious marker of quality anyway
@jesusgalvez6127 I am so interested in it because I would love a lighter, thinner phone. I hate my pro weighing down my pockets, especially shorts. That being said, if the battery is really abysmal, I won't waste my time.
This resembles a power bank more than it does an iPhone. How did we journey from a masterpiece of aesthetic elegance like the iPhone X, only to arrive at this soulless slab?
God the curved iPhones are the ugliest phones. Tried to copy android of that era, the boxy iPhones are so much better that now all of android has copied apple.
How often do you look at the back of your phone? You don’t, you never notice it, it’s either in your pocket or you doom scroll for 10 hours, now stop complaining about the design, it literally means absolutely nothing
Marketing a phone based on its thinnest point when cameras stick out so much should be classed as fraud. All these companies should be forced to advertise "thinness" by the thickest point. These camera bumps are beyond hideous and this thin trend needs to die asap
like if the phone stretched out my pants too much so it would tear from regular movement, then that would suck. Also, I dont want my the shape of my phone sticking out this a sore thumb. camera bumps help reduce that.@IronMan-ds5bi
@KaiSoscelesI think the problem was Apple not showing it off. When I got my mini I had barely heard a single thing about it, but it is the best phone I’ve ever had. And with the new condensed batteries it could be even better with more battery life.
@SLD-bz9so No, I acted like it was plural. Years is a plural word and 2 is a plural number. What you think I meant is irrelevant to the literal meaning of a plural word. :shrug:
@jasonnanduwhat u saying bro? It should be in mass manufacturing phase now according to launch track record of apple every year. You can’t change it, it’s already done lol.
Never say no one. The fact that it will exist means it’s perfect for someone out there. Remember, the universe demands variety, so keep your mind open to all possibilities.
Dude the people who want the mini are in the minority. It's why the plus iphone would be replaced with the air as the plus was not selling much. A thin phone like this would attract more buyers even with its downsides
Agreed. I have the 12 mini. The only downside seems battery life. But who’s not complaining about that regardless? I like its compact size, it fits nicely into the pockets of my pants without being a nuisance.
they should've keept the mini since it was well sold in europe and every user loved it, lasting 6 to 12 hours per charge even after a year of use, unlike the se which i personally got se2 and it lasted me a year but with 81% health and battery lasting 3 hours at best
Ive been using the 14 pro max since release day and every year ive been saying ill upgrade and then when i see what releases i decide to stick to the 14. Guess itll be another year with the 14…
@fre_she Thousands of people bought them. But not enough for a company as big and profit-focused as Apple to continue thr product. Personally I think they missed the mark on it. More people would buy them if they had the triple cameras and processing power of the Pro lineup but in a smaller (more preferable) form factor.
I'm so happy that I went first time ever in my life into iPhone with my first iPhone 13 Pro max and now having iphone 16 Pro Max, because they come up with so little meaningfull upgrades that I'm easily going to keep my iphone 16 pro max now 5-8 years :D
I simply cannot grasp my mind around it: a super thin and big flagship phone is for whatever reason more desirable than a smaller size flagship phone. I am holding on tight to my dear 13mini.
I am so glad I did my upgrade when the iPhone 15 (base model) came out. Graph also shows it sold the best among the 15 series line... It is packed with the best possible from both lines. I see the new models with interest but made me glad that's when I did the jump. Aesthetically, also for the colors.
I will be getting an iPhone 16e when the 17 models arrive. I am rocking an iPhone 11 (nearly 6 years old) and will still have to talk myself into that "upgrade". I anticipate that the 16 will drop a bit in price and/or find an A-condition unit on the Re-sale/Refurb market for a substantial savings....and easily expect another 5+ years of useful, productive life.
I have a 16 pro now and upgraded from a 12 pro max, but I only upgraded because some unexpected shit happened (not with the phone itself) so I had to upgrade… If I didn’t have to upgrade, I likely would’ve kept the 12 pro max even longer. I think atleast… The 16 pro sure does look better than the disgusting designs of these 17 pro’s… So maybe I too would’ve upgraded before this awful 17 design gets reused on the iPhone 18…
An additional iPhone 16e user here. I would highly recommend the upgrade. It’s amazing. I do not know if you are looking at going with a different phone carrier as well, but T-Mobile gave me the 16 E with bill credits for the entire amount of the device. Once this is paid off, I’m going to move into the 17 Pro Max, but that’ll give Apple one year to sort out any bugs in there Rollout
To me it sounds like they should have just kept the iPhone 11 model lineup template; one base, two pros. The mini and plus models have been reported as being the least popular models released, and with the Air's battery being trash, possibly another bendgate, and a single rear camera, I can't imagine this model will do much better than the minis and pluses. And this is coming from someone who used the iPhone 12 mini for 3.5 years.
I think if you have a 16 pro max you really wouldn’t need the change, hence the titanium will be replaced with the 17 pro max. Other than that if you’re a photographer or a videographer then it would make sense. (PS: i love your channel, an apple rep told me about the C1 too)
That's a crime, legit crime releasing a phone model without bottom speakers and charging money after sacrificing even battery life and all, this shouldn't exist, a waste of chip on planet and unnecessary e-junks, because I can anticipate this will automatically be the worst iPhone in apple history, rather their mini model was a blast, I would recommend someone to buy iPhone 13 mini over 17 air!!! A basic phone user can expect decent audio experience, a workable phone camera and all, don't say that this will be the first portless iPhone supporting magsafe transition altogether. That will be another crime :v.
I’m pretty sure this was the same backlash Apple had in 2007 or 2008 when they released the first MacBook Air which was thin but had to give up on many key features. But as time went the MacBook Air in my opinion improved. I hope and think this will be the case for iPhone 17 Air.
but i think the speaker performance still on par with another competing phone, it can be even better than any android. You know, somehow apple can cram in some of the best laptop speakers in the thinnest of macbook air. I think they gonna do that kind of magic.
@adarshganesh6341 I wouldn't buy such product, rather I will buy a base model iPhone. But releasing something that does not offer people basic features, is a serious crime. The audio quality will be worse, I mean cmon... On the other theory, if they are opting out for future prototype where they will be able to emit sound from the surface without any visible speakers and deliver the same experience, okay, I am open for that innovation, so far no companies have shown such product.
@SimplemanOfficial-u7u In that case, I am optimistic, but nothing beats stereo speaker experience. Also, I envision a future where there will be no visible speaker grills but deliver same audio experience, that will be another experience apple can bring before anyone in the market at commercial level.
Hasn’t there been a long talk of the 17 models featuring an anti-reflective nano-texture display as well like the S25 Ultra? Lovely video as always though!
When he's explaining the iPhone Air, the whole time I was just thinking, "ah yes, so it must be dirt cheap to make any sense." But $899 IS INSANE!!!!! Why would ANYONE buy that??????
After the jack they are now removing the bottom speaker? When it was always the one to be less tinny of the two, wow Apple is done with making things better and is just “everything goes” now
base iPhone 17, here's what to expect: * Display [00:11]: It will be slightly larger at 6.3 inches, achieved by making the device about 2mm taller and shrinking borders by 45% (from 2.2mm to 1.2mm) [00:19]. It will also use the same LTPO panel as previous Pro models, bringing ProMotion (120 Hz refresh rate) to entry-model iPhones for smoother scrolling and animations [00:34]. ProMotion's variable refresh rate (as low as 1 Hz) will likely enable always-on display functionality [00:47]. * Dynamic Island [01:01]: It is rumored to be about 25% smaller due to a new metal lens system combining Face ID receiver and transmitter into one aperture [01:01]. * Processor [01:15]: It is expected to use the same A18 chip as the iPhone 16, not the improved A19 chip [01:15]. * Connectivity [01:22]: A custom Wi-Fi chip designed by Apple could offer better power efficiency and more reliable wireless connectivity [01:22]. It will also include Apple's custom C1 cellular modem, introduced with the 16e, improving modem power efficiency by 17% to 24% [01:30]. * RAM [01:46]: It will remain at 8 GB, similar to the iPhone 16 [01:46]. * Cameras [01:52]: The rear camera system is likely unchanged, but the front camera will see a significant upgrade to 24 megapixels, up from 12 megapixels, for higher resolution photos [01:52]. * Color Options [01:59]: It is rumored to come in black, white, light blue, light green, and light purple [01:59]. * Starting Price [02:08]: It is expected to remain at $799, same as the iPhone 16 [02:08].
Well you guys are considering only the few tech enthusiasts that want the best chip with the best cameras with the best battery with the best best and best, no one seems to consider the average user that is more than happy to take an iPhone 16 or a Samsung S25 as it’s cheaper but still more than enough for their needs, even myself which I tend to believe I’m a tech enthusiast, I own a 15pm, but honestly, pretty pointless, I’ve recently started a goal of limiting my usage of the phone, so that means less games if at all and I don’t usually take pictures, the battery usage for me is very low, I usually have no more than 3/4 hours of screen time daily, so for example, I could get an Air, it’s battery despite being less capable, could be more than enough while fully benefitting from the lightness of the phone and the absence of 3 badass massive cameras, which I rarely use. But I get why people have such questions, I also ask myself what do people do with 100x zooms or macro lenses, to me, they’re pointless, but I’m not the only one living on this nice planet 😂 also for example, my mother has an iPhone 13, even an Air would be an upgrade on practically every category while benefitting from the pros of the phone.
The iPhone air should do without the camera bump. That would make it more appealing. However I’m sure people would complain about degraded image quality in that case
A lot of people seem to miss that aluminum conducts heat 16 times better than titanium. So the switch will also contribute significantly to helping keep the device cool, which has been a slight issue with the titanium models. Though I do love the toughness of the titanium. My 16 Pro Max still looks perfect with no marks on the frame.
@GiaLin-zt4dswhat? They already have a cooling system. It is rumored that the cooling system on the 17s will be a vapor chamber. They currently use graphene thermal pads to transfer heat.
I would rather have another smaller iPhone than a super thin model
hear me out tho, I miss light phones
I'm dayling an a55 and it's thicc (that comes with upsides, the speakers compared to the iPhone 12 base are chef kiss, they sound amazing and full, they don't distort at all at full volume)
They had the mini, didn sell well, I liked it too
They need to drop prices by 50%
@Emayeah what does "dayling" mean?
@haroldberserker 13 mini sold better than 15 pro. maybe they should stop releasing pro models and give us back the normal sized options
Can't wait for JerryRigEverything to snap the Air in half like a twig
And to show that the screen scratches at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7.
Glass is glass and as we all know....
Although it might surprise us. I was genuinely surprised the M4 iPad didn’t catastrophically fail when bent longways.
Agreed, we are all excited
Hes a samsung sheep so I bet he will try his best.
iPhone 17 air almost looks like a google pixel.
but more ugly and bump on one side of the bar so it still wobbles, honestly quite impressive
More like a budget Poco smartphone
I always assumed that the weird bar on top is to reduce table rocking, Google pixel truly nailed that
android design is based on iphones and always has been so it’s kind of insane to suggest that an iphone looks like its imitator
@ZealantI mean I’m not rlly that wrong
To make the phone even thinner, they should move the battery into the "Camera bump", since that doesn't count toward the total thickness for some reason.
Exactly. It is so stupid
😂😂
😂😂😂😂
And make the bump a symmetrical thickness for gods sake
Is that actually true or is it simply because the camera bump is ONE portion of the phone, not the whole phone actually contributing to a massive sizing of the phone? It's apple so I expect there to be some fuckappleray going on. *Disregard if that's explained here, I'm about to watch the video, you're the second comment I seen upon a quick scroll down.
Bro is so calm and chill about announcing minor updates for 5 years straight 😭
Damn😂😂,you have no chills
He's a shill, what do you expect?
I’m interested since I might finally upgrade from my 11 pro
@Very_Nosey He's a schill for being calm? Sounds more like he's being honest with how little excitement most of Apple's phones have stirred up. Do you want him to start jumping with joy and enthusiasm cuz Apple moved the logo down a bit?
Congrats ❤@buzzbomb1232
I just wish they'd make the phone thicker to eliminate the bump and give us fantastic battery capacity. Extra weight is a subconscious marker of quality anyway
Imagine the phone being a little more heavy and lasting like 3.5 days. That would be insane.
No stereo sound in 2025 is insane. Only for this i won’t buy the air
My thoughts exactly and not that good battery life either? I’ll pass on the air also.
s25 edge >>>
@jesusgalvez6127 I am so interested in it because I would love a lighter, thinner phone. I hate my pro weighing down my pockets, especially shorts. That being said, if the battery is really abysmal, I won't waste my time.
Who even asked for this phone, I hope sales are low so they actually start listening to what people want
@gnobre we want the mini back
0:31 Bet a 1000 bucks they ain't putting ProMotion on the 17 base. They might mostly put like a 90Hz display on it and call it LooseMotion
I bet it’s not promotion but fixed 120hz
@_bit_that’s a common rumor and it might actually be true, hopefully
@fruityflop8I bet it is, especially since they are gonna start putting oled on more devices by 2026
They’ll make it 90hz and call it Liquid Retina XDR S S for smooth
Not “loose motion “! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
16e seems like a good deal in comparison to 17 air 😅
A refurb 15 pro for the same price is a steal
@cbastien92It hangs, lags, and the battery drains quickly!
Not really 120 hz in 2025 is big deal
@nihal_6_7 nah
That’s the point. That’s what they want you to think
This resembles a power bank more than it does an iPhone. How did we journey from a masterpiece of aesthetic elegance like the iPhone X, only to arrive at this soulless slab?
God the curved iPhones are the ugliest phones. Tried to copy android of that era, the boxy iPhones are so much better that now all of android has copied apple.
How often do you look at the back of your phone? You don’t, you never notice it, it’s either in your pocket or you doom scroll for 10 hours, now stop complaining about the design, it literally means absolutely nothing
@albertotorres7746 curved phones are much nicer to hold in your hand, and they look very elegant.
@ItsDoms A lot of people buy the iPhone especially for how the back of it looks 😂
@panzerofthelake506 Great, that’s like buying a shoe depending on what the sole looks like
Marketing a phone based on its thinnest point when cameras stick out so much should be classed as fraud. All these companies should be forced to advertise "thinness" by the thickest point. These camera bumps are beyond hideous and this thin trend needs to die asap
I'd rather have a camera sticking out than my leg ripping from the phone being too thick. People use cases anyway.
@FireFoxDestroyerHuh? Why would your "leg rip" from a phone being a few mm thicker?
@FireFoxDestroyer never heard a single persons legs being ripped from a phone’s thickness
@FireFoxDestroyer How thick is your case gonna have to be tho on these "thin" phones to balance it out?
like if the phone stretched out my pants too much so it would tear from regular movement, then that would suck. Also, I dont want my the shape of my phone sticking out this a sore thumb. camera bumps help reduce that.@IronMan-ds5bi
WE NEED A MINI PLEASE
buy a 13 mini its great phone for 200 bucks
@laidonline it's getting old now so no
The mini has always been a conversation starter in my case. Everyone wants to know “which” phone it is because they love it. Please get the mini back.
Especially with these new high performing batteries I hope it will be possible in the future to bring this back
Same, just replaced the battery in my 12 Mini after 5 years, people laugh and say they kinda want one.
Yes bring the mini back with a more efficient battery!!!
iPhone 12 mini goated ngl
Yes, they are planning to do thinner phones with lower battery capacity but they cant do minis with the same concept too, idk why
I can imagine the iPhone 17 Air having a bending issue like the 2018 iPad Pro and iPhone 6
That would be too insane to not check thoroughly for Apple
@slickzMdzn Don't give Apple too much credit lol
_Hello BendGate my old friend…_ (to the tune of Sound of Silence)
i think they are combining titanium and aluminum so the edges will be more durable making it not bend
Ipad pro m4 didn’t bend, they inserted a thing inside
I really wish instead of the air they went with making a mini version
They made a mini for years. It didn't sell. They cancelled it.
This air too won't sell well@KaiSosceles
They made it only for 2 years.
@KaiSoscelesI think the problem was Apple not showing it off. When I got my mini I had barely heard a single thing about it, but it is the best phone I’ve ever had. And with the new condensed batteries it could be even better with more battery life.
@SLD-bz9so No, I acted like it was plural. Years is a plural word and 2 is a plural number. What you think I meant is irrelevant to the literal meaning of a plural word. :shrug:
A thin phone that needs a battery pack that will make it thicker🤔
Right? Lol
i guess you wouldn't always be using that case, only when you need it, but yes i agree - most phones are completely different with a case and without
you’re the only apple youtuber i trust
Why
Because he's honest@charleleloulou
Yeah
@charleleloulou No clickbaits, no ultra clickbaits based on fake rumors, and most importantly knows his shit.
lol!
Please Apple, don’t make the phones even bigger!! 😩 I want the mini back!!!
Every year these phones become less aesthetically pleasing
16 an 16 Pro look much better than anything since 11 series.
Yet y’all eat it up and buy it every time 🥀
@4dam4cs777Not everyone. Most who comment these rock at least iPhone 11s still, because they know they don’t need a new phone every year
The XS Max was peak.
Who cares about aesthetics? It’s all about functionality and convenience
really hope that the pro will remain titanium as housing !
The iPhone Air is literally the most pointless phone they've ever made.
I hope it won’t be like this
They ain’t made it yet
It’s Gonna Bend
@jasonnanduit’s made
@jasonnanduwhat u saying bro?
It should be in mass manufacturing phase now according to launch track record of apple every year.
You can’t change it, it’s already done lol.
I am just happy with my iPhone 16 Pro Max good for 6 years of use
AfraidMonsters yeah on the iphone 13 pro i was like “how much better can phones get then this?”
AfraidMonstersI’m telling you man the upgrade is not worth it, came from 13pm to 16pm and it feels and look the same
Still on the 12Pro for me and the 12 for my husband (BOGO from 2020). These phones have at least another few years. Apple can keep all this.
@leexis1111 i was from the 13 to 16 pm and i had a huyge difference
@bluewolfy_45x56same. anyone saying going from a 13pm to 16pm and saying 'it feels and looks the same' is lying.
Let’s be honest No ones buying the iPhone 17 Air
Every body roasted iPhone 16e when it was launched, but the model helped apple become the no1 most sold phones.
Never say no one. The fact that it will exist means it’s perfect for someone out there. Remember, the universe demands variety, so keep your mind open to all possibilities.
People will buy it
It’s going to be the best selling model of the 17s for sure
Based on what evidence?
They should replace the air with mini
The mini sold horribly and I’m glad they removed it
Dude the people who want the mini are in the minority. It's why the plus iphone would be replaced with the air as the plus was not selling much. A thin phone like this would attract more buyers even with its downsides
@TheReo500but it would have more use these days because phones are getting bigger and bigger
@Apple Explained We all miss the iconic Background Music.
It called Piano Moment if you are wondering.
@kingkeenangaming756Thank you. The Videos were different back then.
@Cristiano21Brasil Yeah You are welcome..
Yeah
+1
Please bring back the Mini I miss it 😢
Frrrrr
Agreed. I have the 12 mini. The only downside seems battery life. But who’s not complaining about that regardless? I like its compact size, it fits nicely into the pockets of my pants without being a nuisance.
@jaffaorange3809yeah that’s the only main factor of the mini phones, but if Apple never discontinued them, they probably would’ve fixed it by now.
@jaffaorange3809 Completely agree and battery life now a day’s have gotten so much better so we don’t need to worry any more
if thats the new look for the next 3 years, i’m waiting for the iphone 20
Who's here after the live stream?
Me 😅 yesterday
they should've keept the mini since it was well sold in europe and every user loved it, lasting 6 to 12 hours per charge even after a year of use, unlike the se which i personally got se2 and it lasted me a year but with 81% health and battery lasting 3 hours at best
I think Air is the new mini because of smaller weight.
@Natalia.Yarinaits still wide
3:11 Bendgate 2.0
Air is dumb
Samsung is dumb as well
@purplio64sybau
it will outsell
Not really. You need it to breathe.
It’s gonna be a tornado, hold tight somewhere
Ive been using the 14 pro max since release day and every year ive been saying ill upgrade and then when i see what releases i decide to stick to the 14. Guess itll be another year with the 14…
so basically with the base model we’re getting a baby version of the pro models? im definitely getting that
Idk how they can just measure the thickness while excluding the size of the camera bump....
Def skipping this generation LOL - no bottom speaker for 800 bucks
then... get a pro its right there for you
I still have the 14 pro, I aint upgrading until there is a design refresh cuz they all look the same and basically do the same shit.
@protoman2260i have to upgrade my current battery life is at 75%😢
@EngageTV get an android. there. my android is still at 100%
@protoman2260 exaclty i got 13 pro max and it works so perfectly
Bring back glossy stainless steel please. Nothing else looks as good
Big phones. I miss my SE3.
BRING BACK THE MINI
DON’T BRING BACK THE MINI, THEY SOLD HORRENDOUSLY SINCE NOBODY BOUGHT THEM
y'all don't buy it why would they bring it back
Yea!!
@fre_she Thousands of people bought them. But not enough for a company as big and profit-focused as Apple to continue thr product. Personally I think they missed the mark on it. More people would buy them if they had the triple cameras and processing power of the Pro lineup but in a smaller (more preferable) form factor.
Right. At least make it an option and don’t produce a lot of them just in case they don’t sell well. So you’d have a mini, regular,and a pro.
Everyone who is hating on the iPhone Air have forgotten one important thing….. ITS NEW so people will buy it anyway.
Where is the magical background music 😢😢
1:22 that is dumb. You might as well just get a 16
That's probably fake news
Well, people with a working brain always tend to buy last gen flagships at a much lower price anyway.
I think it’ll be the same system as the 14 and 15, the previous year’s pro chipset
Just get a 14 pro
They have been doing this for years now, the base model always gets the chip from the year before Pro model
Air has speakers- WAIT A DAMN MINUTE
Where are my fellow current iphone 13/mini holders looking to upgrade a 17 this fall 😅
I’m watching this video on my iPhone AIR.
I don't care about thinness, but about size: give us back the Mini!
I'm so happy that I went first time ever in my life into iPhone with my first iPhone 13 Pro max and now having iphone 16 Pro Max, because they come up with so little meaningfull upgrades that I'm easily going to keep my iphone 16 pro max now 5-8 years :D
The Air isn't thinner. The camera bump should count in the total thickness. I'd rather have a mini-sized version back.
im gonna buy iphone se 2022 after my birthday
I simply cannot grasp my mind around it: a super thin and big flagship phone is for whatever reason more desirable than a smaller size flagship phone. I am holding on tight to my dear 13mini.
what in the apple pixel
This guy AI
That camera pump though, I wish the day when it's fleshed out comes sooner rather than later.
Iphone air: costs more has less
I am so glad I did my upgrade when the iPhone 15 (base model) came out. Graph also shows it sold the best among the 15 series line... It is packed with the best possible from both lines. I see the new models with interest but made me glad that's when I did the jump. Aesthetically, also for the colors.
aluminum frame instead of titanium and aluminium camera bump instead of glass?? thats a pass for me
The passive aggressiveness 😂😂
I'd definitely love a camera bump that's even across the top, leading to less table wobble. Not sure whether the new design accomplishes that though.
buy a google pixel
If the Pro really looks like that, what a beautiful phone! 4K timelapse is still missing, hope they finally add it.
I will be getting an iPhone 16e when the 17 models arrive. I am rocking an iPhone 11 (nearly 6 years old) and will still have to talk myself into that "upgrade". I anticipate that the 16 will drop a bit in price and/or find an A-condition unit on the Re-sale/Refurb market for a substantial savings....and easily expect another 5+ years of useful, productive life.
An iPhone 16e user here; trust & believe you will LOVE IT.
I have a 16 pro now and upgraded from a 12 pro max, but I only upgraded because some unexpected shit happened (not with the phone itself) so I had to upgrade… If I didn’t have to upgrade, I likely would’ve kept the 12 pro max even longer. I think atleast… The 16 pro sure does look better than the disgusting designs of these 17 pro’s… So maybe I too would’ve upgraded before this awful 17 design gets reused on the iPhone 18…
An additional iPhone 16e user here. I would highly recommend the upgrade. It’s amazing. I do not know if you are looking at going with a different phone carrier as well, but T-Mobile gave me the 16 E with bill credits for the entire amount of the device. Once this is paid off, I’m going to move into the 17 Pro Max, but that’ll give Apple one year to sort out any bugs in there Rollout
I HIGHLY recommend to go with the 15 or 16 instead of 16e
No ultra-wideband chip 😑
The width should include the camera bump, always
To me it sounds like they should have just kept the iPhone 11 model lineup template; one base, two pros. The mini and plus models have been reported as being the least popular models released, and with the Air's battery being trash, possibly another bendgate, and a single rear camera, I can't imagine this model will do much better than the minis and pluses.
And this is coming from someone who used the iPhone 12 mini for 3.5 years.
I'm glad they kept the LIDAR scanner on the pro models
Nice video but didn’t you make a video with the EXACT same title just 3 months ago btw? 😅
Great video. Thank you for no background music. Great to hear your clear and well enunciated presentation.
I think if you have a 16 pro max you really wouldn’t need the change, hence the titanium will be replaced with the 17 pro max. Other than that if you’re a photographer or a videographer then it would make sense. (PS: i love your channel, an apple rep told me about the C1 too)
That's a crime, legit crime releasing a phone model without bottom speakers and charging money after sacrificing even battery life and all, this shouldn't exist, a waste of chip on planet and unnecessary e-junks, because I can anticipate this will automatically be the worst iPhone in apple history, rather their mini model was a blast, I would recommend someone to buy iPhone 13 mini over 17 air!!! A basic phone user can expect decent audio experience, a workable phone camera and all, don't say that this will be the first portless iPhone supporting magsafe transition altogether. That will be another crime :v.
No usb:- so people have to buy iCloud and Magsafe
I’m pretty sure this was the same backlash Apple had in 2007 or 2008 when they released the first MacBook Air which was thin but had to give up on many key features. But as time went the MacBook Air in my opinion improved. I hope and think this will be the case for iPhone 17 Air.
but i think the speaker performance still on par with another competing phone, it can be even better than any android. You know, somehow apple can cram in some of the best laptop speakers in the thinnest of macbook air. I think they gonna do that kind of magic.
@adarshganesh6341 I wouldn't buy such product, rather I will buy a base model iPhone. But releasing something that does not offer people basic features, is a serious crime. The audio quality will be worse, I mean cmon...
On the other theory, if they are opting out for future prototype where they will be able to emit sound from the surface without any visible speakers and deliver the same experience, okay, I am open for that innovation, so far no companies have shown such product.
@SimplemanOfficial-u7u In that case, I am optimistic, but nothing beats stereo speaker experience. Also, I envision a future where there will be no visible speaker grills but deliver same audio experience, that will be another experience apple can bring before anyone in the market at commercial level.
Imagine buying an iPhone Air, but the thin battery is crap so you have to put it in a thick battery case .😂
Hasn’t there been a long talk of the 17 models featuring an anti-reflective nano-texture display as well like the S25 Ultra? Lovely video as always though!
Is this true?
What happened with the all screen with a faceID camera under the screen without notch?
The 17 air will be the iphone 6 and will
Look Like A google Pixel 9
And the only difference is a smaller dynamic island
they look like a dashboard in the back 😭
just give us back the damn iphone mini !
Nobody saw orange coming 🤣
When he's explaining the iPhone Air, the whole time I was just thinking, "ah yes, so it must be dirt cheap to make any sense." But $899 IS INSANE!!!!! Why would ANYONE buy that??????
You should time stamp when you cover each phone
After the jack they are now removing the bottom speaker? When it was always the one to be less tinny of the two, wow Apple is done with making things better and is just “everything goes” now
There’s still the other models
You lost me at "... No bottom speaker". Like WTF Apple?
how about we bring back the mini with pro specs? Yah? Cause I would love that.
This was very insightful. Definitely introduced me to a new perspective. Great work!
base iPhone 17, here's what to expect:
* Display [00:11]: It will be slightly larger at 6.3 inches, achieved by making the device about 2mm taller and shrinking borders by 45% (from 2.2mm to 1.2mm) [00:19]. It will also use the same LTPO panel as previous Pro models, bringing ProMotion (120 Hz refresh rate) to entry-model iPhones for smoother scrolling and animations [00:34]. ProMotion's variable refresh rate (as low as 1 Hz) will likely enable always-on display functionality [00:47].
* Dynamic Island [01:01]: It is rumored to be about 25% smaller due to a new metal lens system combining Face ID receiver and transmitter into one aperture [01:01].
* Processor [01:15]: It is expected to use the same A18 chip as the iPhone 16, not the improved A19 chip [01:15].
* Connectivity [01:22]: A custom Wi-Fi chip designed by Apple could offer better power efficiency and more reliable wireless connectivity [01:22]. It will also include Apple's custom C1 cellular modem, introduced with the 16e, improving modem power efficiency by 17% to 24% [01:30].
* RAM [01:46]: It will remain at 8 GB, similar to the iPhone 16 [01:46].
* Cameras [01:52]: The rear camera system is likely unchanged, but the front camera will see a significant upgrade to 24 megapixels, up from 12 megapixels, for higher resolution photos [01:52].
* Color Options [01:59]: It is rumored to come in black, white, light blue, light green, and light purple [01:59].
* Starting Price [02:08]: It is expected to remain at $799, same as the iPhone 16 [02:08].
It's the same product that I've seen in my dreams way before.
iPhone Air thickness with the camera bump is 5.5 km
For Americans, that equals to 3.41754156 miles
Nice straightforward video buddy
5:03 Genuinely asking; who’s this phone for?
apple fanboys
They want to have a charger less phone in the future so this is just something to test the market
Well you guys are considering only the few tech enthusiasts that want the best chip with the best cameras with the best battery with the best best and best, no one seems to consider the average user that is more than happy to take an iPhone 16 or a Samsung S25 as it’s cheaper but still more than enough for their needs, even myself which I tend to believe I’m a tech enthusiast, I own a 15pm, but honestly, pretty pointless, I’ve recently started a goal of limiting my usage of the phone, so that means less games if at all and I don’t usually take pictures, the battery usage for me is very low, I usually have no more than 3/4 hours of screen time daily, so for example, I could get an Air, it’s battery despite being less capable, could be more than enough while fully benefitting from the lightness of the phone and the absence of 3 badass massive cameras, which I rarely use. But I get why people have such questions, I also ask myself what do people do with 100x zooms or macro lenses, to me, they’re pointless, but I’m not the only one living on this nice planet 😂 also for example, my mother has an iPhone 13, even an Air would be an upgrade on practically every category while benefitting from the pros of the phone.
@valentino1005that’s valid
I can’t imagine a single person would rather to take iPhone air😂😂
12 GB of ram is a big upgrade on an iPhone
Google pixel has been enjoying it since though!
@Angelina-f7r3y nobody is talking about the Google Pixel
Pull the ‘make phones smaller’ lever, Kronk!
9:29 that blue gives 13 Pro vibes
I have a 13 pro currently and WILL be getting the 17PM in blue 😮💨
@nicolasrulliis your current phone in blue?
Green looks so good. 💚💚
5:38 I thought it’s gonna have the A26 chip
Yeah, because apple fucked up the version numbers even more now
At this point they might as well😭
@fruityflop8will it actually happen
@appl_ai_cupertinoI honestly think it might
The iPhone air should do without the camera bump. That would make it more appealing. However I’m sure people would complain about degraded image quality in that case
A lot of people seem to miss that aluminum conducts heat 16 times better than titanium. So the switch will also contribute significantly to helping keep the device cool, which has been a slight issue with the titanium models. Though I do love the toughness of the titanium. My 16 Pro Max still looks perfect with no marks on the frame.
Why don’t they just add a cooling system?
@GiaLin-zt4dswhat? They already have a cooling system. It is rumored that the cooling system on the 17s will be a vapor chamber. They currently use graphene thermal pads to transfer heat.
@Angus_MacAskillno use a real one like in s24 ultra
@GiaLin-zt4dsThat’s literally what I just said. The next iPhone is likely to have a vapor chamber, which is what the s25 ultra uses.
@Angus_MacAskillthen they can still use titanium
Could you make a video about „Why apple added the overscroll effect in iOS“
I think Apple should try and fit the bottom speakers on the Air, as otherwise it will be a bit of a letdown
Did you not watch the video?
@fre_she no, I did. And Greg said that it won’t have bottom speakers, but never did he say that they couldn’t try and fit them?
How do we have all this info already 😭💀
Bring back the Detunez beat please! It fits your channel so well 😭
He has it already
I would probably never use reverse wireless charging but i don’t know why it hasn’t been out yet
4:44 these video playback hours are lies anyway, iPhone’s battery scks, and i have iPhone 16 pro
Agreed
Honestly I love the new look of the 17 pro
So... Bendgate Air will be a thing this year
I mean it’s likely gonna be titanium and the galaxy edge didn’t bend