Kurt Warner Weighs In On Tua Tagovailoa & Dolphins' Long-Term Outlook Amid Second Contract Talks
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- The Miami Dolphins' starting quarterback has no shortage of opinions available to him across the NFL. Hall of Fame quarterback and NFL Network analyst Kurt Warner recently weighed in with his and today joins Locked On Dolphins to take a deep dive into all things Tua and Miami. Kurt shares his perspective on:
- Tua's perception as a system quarterback in Miami
- What Tua's evolution can look like based on Kurt's own experiences
- What exactly is "anticipation" and how Tua uses it so effectively
- How the Dolphins can unlock more answers in their offensive structure
- & much more!
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Kurt Warner Weighs In On Tua Tagovailoa & Dolphins' Long-Term Outlook Amid Second Contract Talks
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I am definitely not paying attention to a work meeting and watching this instead
Hey, as long as you meet the quotas, who cares if you had to ask someone why the whole system was gone and what the hell you were supposed to use to keep track of everything now. 🤣🤣
Props to getting Kurt on the show.
I really appreciate KW as an analyst. No hot takes, no clowning foolishness, he just gives you his expertise like you’re both adults.
And somehow people are still saying they need to see more from Tua which really shows their credibility and knowledge of the game. They tend to ignore the plain facts that, aside from what Kurt said, are as follows :
1. Prior to McD, Tua didn't have a HC that believed in him and a decent OC that can develop him.
2. After McD's arrival, Tua has continued to develop to a level he is now which was a Pro Bowl QB.
3. Aside from weapons, Tua never had a decent OL. Brady demanded at least this, and handpicked his RT and eventual LT replacement.
4. Even with this, Tua had a phenomenal year last year prior to the OL injuries. The whole team was heavily injured coming into the playoffs which would impact people's determining factor that wants Tua to win a playoff game. Compare that to what CJ Stroud and Jordan Love had in the playoffs. Yet, somehow both they are "ranked" higher than Tua.
Coming back to point 1 and 2, having decent OCs can make or break any QB, not just young developing QBs. Just ask Zach Wilson and Mac Jones on how they did. Mac knows just how well Co-OCs work.
Compare Tua under Flores and his OCs (which changed every year) with Tua under McD with Frank Smith.
To add to this, it isn't like he was bad in his first 2 years. Let's add some context to those.
Before McDaniel/Tyreek came to Miami Tuas career passer rating was 91. Honestly not too bad for a rookie or 2nd year. Especially not bad considering the 32nd ranked OL he had, the weapons he lacked (except Waddle for 1 year), a HC who never wanted him, was actively sabotaging his progress,and trying to replace him.
No lies told. Straight FACTS! Everybody overlooks all that because it’s TUA.
Well said!
Very true
I agree with your points but my main concern is that Tua is probably more dependent on McD to become an elite QB than specific skill players. Giving Tua a long term deal without renewing McDs deal too is very risky.
Beautiful explanation by Kurt Wagner. He breaks down the QB position and how you’re supposed to play it beautifully.
Tremendous Q & A. Really appreciate the in depth and straightforward answers from Kurt, and his explanation of anticipation being a different way to extend plays was very cool, and clearly Kurt enjoyed answering the questions the way he was smiling so big congrats to Kyle.
Great getting Kurt on and someone who tries to be truly unbiased while still appreciating every type of QB. It gets lost a lot but when Kurt talks about Tua it's not just rosy colored glasses, he also points our areas of improvement. He calls Tua a good QB but not the top greats, which is honest and fine. He's what we have and he does well at what he's good at. He'll never be agile like Lamar or run people over like Allen, but he was the passing yard leader because the skills he has. Great segment!
No way Crabbs got Kurt on the show, that’s crazy!
great work Kyle really. you are a necessary in the fanbase ;too many fans of football but not students of football. great job trying to educate this fanbase. 🙏
I love that he takes the "what if" out of it and brings it back to "what is". Smart! It's like a zen approach.
Nice job Kyle. Concise and organized
Great show!! Kurt seemed on point regarding his analysis of Tua’s skill set, which is obviously no surprise.
Wow! Much respect to you that Kurt W gave you that interview, it speaks volumes. Thank you so much Kurt Warner for giving all of us the privilege and honor of your time. I value your opinion very much. Awesome video!!
Kurt is one of the best analysts and shares perspectives and thoughts that you will only know as an elite QB. Unlike Chris Sims that have stupid opinions base on his level of understanding (low) Kurt is real, straightforward and honest.
As he said, Tua’s skills set compliments this system not every QB can do that because there is high level processing needed not just skill.
DEBUNKING TDFoolishTalk I see. Great stuff once again by the great Kyle Crabbs and the legendary Kurt Warner 👏 ❤ 🐬
How did this debunk TD??? If anything TD is 100 💯 correct. Tua is a product of Tyreek and waddle. Anyone can do it. U guys can't be serious. Did u even listen
I could listen to Kurt Warner all day. Great questions Kyle.
Agree...1000% Foolish talk
TD vs. Hall of Famer
@@prettyboyfpv7740 Try again, that's weak.
Excellent Q&A! Love how you got Kurt to elaborate on his perception of anticipation (from front to back end).🔥💯
Excellent job, Kyle Crabbs. Good questions and steering of the interview.
Nicely done almost as good as victory Mondays!
Cheers to having a fantastic guest w/ brilliant insight.....Thanks Kyle .......& thank you Kurt
Let’s goooooo 🐬🐬 let’s sign Tua …. Let’s go on a super bowl run !!!!!!!!!!!💪💪
Not if bills & ravens or kc in the can't bet them
Outstanding job Kyle! Thank you sir 🫡🇺🇸💪🙏
Awesome episode Kyle. So cool to see you get your dues with a top notch guest.
Thanks Kyle, appreciate u always!
Thank you for this fair assessment from a pro. So sick of ignorant media
Great job Kyle!
The motion in the dolphins system is a blessing and a handicap. When they are at home at the timing on the offensive timing is perfect pre snap they are hard to stop. NOW ... on the road with noise or cold they struggled running that motion ...
Excellent episode with excellent QB info from Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. This was a great show Kyle, well done.
Really good insights. Kurt has definitely made some very good breakdown videos on Tua's play. J.T. O'Sullivan falls into that category as well and he has always been a Tua supporter. Would be another great guest to get as well.
Excellent quarterback scenes and strategies
Great interview Kyle. Thank you!
Just Facts! Great show! Fins up!
Great Interview!
Awesome episode. Congrats!!!
Amazing interview! Thanks!!!
Fantastic stuff!
Good stuff thank you
Great stuff!
Great episode!!
Kurt one of the few former playes who's honest. Others go along with the likes. Props
Thanks, good show Kyle!
As per usual with Kyle, brilliant stuff.
Great job Kyle! Awesome interview
Great job Kyle you nailed it!!
Great show !
Great interview Kyle!
Great show Kyle! Love the content. Keep it going uce!
One thing I forgot to ask is: can you expand on Kurt Wagners distinction between scheme and play design in expanding the passing game and opening up guys. Maybe give an example?
Nicely done
Nice job Kyle.
My concern is the hot read...We have Achane, Wright, and Smith..We have multiple pitches..
One thing Tua does very good is his ability to learn and grow. Some QB's are the same in their 10th year as they were in the first. Tua progresses
You're living lala land. If he's growing. Why can't he win in the cold? 😂😂😂 why can't he beat Josh Allen? 🤣🤣🤣
This is going to be good 🤙🏼❤️🐬🫡
Nice bag Kyle, well deserved.
Re: Kurts "forcing" talk. Ill admit it was a bit of a problem last year. Prior to that, Tua regularly got to his 3rd read. There was far too much effort in the Tyreek2k agenda. It needs to be abandoned.
Kurt nail it on Tua if he can fixed those flaw in his game miami got a real chance extend play
Very analytical indeed
well done Kyle
Kyle you are a pod god
Epic
You know Kurt 🎉
Love Warner… but the discussion was a bit Warner-centric. Not blaming Kyle. The question wasn’t answered… “would you pay Tua under the present circumstances. He did say the decision should be based on the present, not the future. That’s tricky, should McD have coaching issues that cost the City a a game.. or worse.
McD reminds me a lot of Vermeil. I wish you would have asked him to compare the two
Thanks Kurt! Pay Tua and go get our 3rd Lombardi!
I think Miami needs an outside consultant that knows how NFL games are played so this person can make suggestions that McDaniel can look at and consider, this might be an option that the dolphins never consider
Cake taken
So good to see people that know how good Tua is and gets better every season. It's past time for him to have a good o line. Injuries keep killing us.
Stop blaming the o-line for his failures. He's not elite. That's what it's gonna take to win big in the league. Tua will never be elite and he will never win big!!
@@leisurelife5331 Keep commenting 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
If Tua did not have the worst pass blocking O-line and had more time in the pocket like everyone else has, he would easily throw for 6000 yards and 60 TDs with the talent at WR/TE/RB and his skill set.
I don't think any other QB can run this system as well as Tua can. Maybe Nick Foles could do it, but for any other quarterback you'd have to change or adjust the offense to make it not as fast.
#TuaTime 🏈
Has Chris Grier made the offer to Tua, like he did to Christian Wilkins before the start of last season for a new contract/ extension and like Christian, Tagovailoa doesn't like it? Therefore the new contract/extension for Tua lays on the table? Take it or leave it! Play out the 5th option. Does Tua capitulate?
After listening to Kurt warner imput I think it would be a good idea for Mike McDaniel to meet and discuss with Kurt his thoughts on how Miami can implement a 2nd & 3 rd option because good teams know how to stop Miami’s offense, especially, if all Miami has is the first option
It's somewhat unfair to the scheme. They may not have a lot of good progressions post snap, but a lot the "if this then that" progression happens pre snap with all the motion. And Miami does that at full play speed. The first read when they line up is not necessarily the first read the post snap. It does show up as a weakness in two minute situations when they don't have time to do the presnap stuff though. I think (hope) Tua losing weight is part of a larger plan to add some post snap wrinkles to offense.
Enjoy Mr Krabbs while we have him, this cat ain’t gonna be around for long..
Krabbs you belong in a scouting dept working your way up the ladder, no joke brother..
McDaniel needs to get plays in faster so Tua has time to read the defense. Give the guy time to think about the 2nd n 3rd options
Now they finaly talking right for Tua. Pay him take care of him. He will win. Its on his resume. Hes a winner
Nah, he’s a serviceable quarterback
If he's a winner. He definitely hasn't won anything the nfl. Stop telling yourself lies
I knew this kid growing up...,? Lies is the bullshit your talking...lol common this kid won at pop Warner highschool and college. His freshmen year remember Alabama?.. and he will win in this league.
@RusselManoha Goodluck with that lmao
Lol..I don't need luck. All I need is Jesus 🙏 Praisem!!!. Hope you gottum too . Real talk from a real G.. No luck. Just Jesus Tua gotten too.
I've seen Tua make multiple reads...
Sign Tua period
Sup cap
Tua rules
🗑
Bottom line Kurt always makes good sense. 👍🏼
He need to let tua control the offense wen needs be
I respect Kurt but I disagree on some of what he is saying. Tua can create and extend and has movement. Tua does not have the OL to take more than 2 seconds to throw the ball and McDaniel only schemes 2 reads on most plays due to the OL. The Dolphins as a team ran out of gas as more and more players went down with injuries. No one can operate at a high level using the bottom half of your OL roster as starters.
Clearly, Kurt didn't watch footage of Tua. He's just repeating ESPN narratives.
Curt Warner is an accurate thrower. I know his comments are good. But always throwing to certain areas on the field doesn't always work. Waiting for the open receiver is better at times. Running the ball mixing it up. Tua has gotten predictable.
Still doesn't change the fact that he sucks in cold weather and fails to get it done when it really matters
Play Tua's 5 year option instead. Let him prove he is the QB that can bring this team to a Playoff win. His 5th year does come with good money 30 million this year.
Per overthecap, $23.2M this year, though I'd still consider that very good money.
It's insane how these "experts" simply regurgitate and state what fans see and know. Experts my ass
Why is grier sitting on his hands paying Tua?
Kyle the goat 🫡
When a team clogs the middle of the field and make Tue throw out side the numbers. That's Tuas weakness. McDaniel doesn't have Tua work on his weaknesses concentrates on strengths. That doesn't help a QB progress.We have seen good teams that have the personal take away Tuas strengths
Tua does a good job throwing outside the numbers when he has time, in rhythm and has time and anticipates the deep outs and comebacks and hits his back foot to drive the ball, especially opposite hash, at times hitting hole shots into C2. He has a high passer rating when he's thrown it to the right side of the field (110.8 passer rating INT 10-20 yards and 124.6 deep 20+ yards). With pressure in his face, of course, he's going to struggle if his Oline sucks.
He obviously being paid to say this crap … 😅 …. Tua sucks every intense game in dec/January when CJ Stroud walks in the league with more clutch
Offensive line still isn't good enough for a QB not to make a quick decision accurately.
Here are the problems with paying Tua, he is not played well against good teams. He is not is played well in the playoffs. Is not played well down the stretch at the end of the season. Let him prove he can win a playoff game and then pay him.
They got great players around tua but Tua ain’t no good players
He played like trash vs above average teams
So giving tua lots of money then he’ll be great. Please give a break. I respect Kurt analysis but don’t agree with him on tua assessment, don’t think dolphins going anywhere with tua.
I'm sorry but Tua layed an egg when we needed him the most. Baltimore, Bills and KC game. The Ravens made the MVP wait. Therefore I cant understand why Tua can't wait. Tua is not better than Lamar. I'm I looking at this incorrectly?
What about Justin Herbert? He's 20-22, Tua's 34-19. Maybe the big problem is Herbert got overpaid first.
Maybe the issue has a little bit to do about the injuries too Chubb Phillips Howard Williams Wynn VanGinkel and Holland. Not to mention Hill was playing on a bad ankle. That's a lot to over come with really good teams. Margin for error is so small in those types of games with teams that are good on offense and defense.
@@darylesuggs1384 Margin for error is small with Tua period. The Dolphins face any kind of adversity and it’s curtains. The defensive injuries didn’t cost us that game the offense completely flopped.
@imdb2513 Everything matters or nothing matters. Tua has won and won often. Chiefs lost to Detroit without Kelce. Chiefs lost a super bowl with Patrick Mahomes because of offensive line injuries. No one questions that and gladly accepts that excuse. But 9 of 22 starters on offense and defense were out. That is not a minor thing you can just ignore. Hate all you want but Tua wins more than he loses and has since being drafted. You can argue all you want but the Bills Ravens and Chiefs are good teams with top tier offense and defense. Even against each other the margin of error is small that is why we love the NFL that is why they play the games and don't just give the Lombardi to the team that the media and others think are the best.
The Dolphins with Tua have beat the Ravens with Lamar 2 times out of the 3 times they've played against each other... the dolphins and Tua and Coach Mike and especially VIC FANGIO laid an egg when we needed them most.
So the only thing that Tua is elite at is winning against bad teams in warm weather. So he wants to be paid as an elite QB? I know this is simplistic but it is frustrating as a Dolphins fan that when we go up against a good team we lose, but blow up bad teams as Tua pads his stats.
It is simplistic because that's a team issue, not a one-player issue. Why do people do this?
Did you actually listen to what Wagner said about anticipation and how these skills are elite and not everyone can do it? just like his skills fitted in St Louis? This is one of the best explanations on how to play the QB position and it sounds like it went over your head.
@@gelandres nah he's just here to complain about something he barely understands ;)
What the hell is Kurt talking about. When you’re evaluating a QB, it is fair to put context into the help that QB has around him, WHILE evaluating that QB. The evaluation goes, “Tua is a limited, one read QB that can’t make deep throws or throw out routes”. The contexts is, the skill players make his life A LOT easier bc they make miraculous plays to prevent INTs and to bail Tua out. When the evaluation is that Tua looks as good as he does bc of the talent around him, IT IS ABSOLUTE FSIR TO make the hypothetical of taking him out of that situation, especially when you know it won’t be feasible to keep these guys on the roster if you paying the QB big bucks. Look at the QBs “try to take the Money B out of their current situation.” Tua, Purdy…and a short list of guys. We don’t do that with Brady, Manning, or Montana bc we don’t question those guys’ talent! They PROVED that they elevate the talent around them, not the other way around.
😂😂😂😂😂 yeah the Hall of fame QB has no idea what he’s talking about.
But we ares supposed to listen to you? 😂😂 you just said tua has no deep ball. Yet he led the league in air yards 2 season in a row. You guys hate tua so much you argue with a HOF 😂
Man, Tua never puts the team on his shoulder he has never made major comebacks from elite teams (2022 Baltimore game). He hasn't won a playoff game (He as only played in one ). He can't throw the deep ball( lead league in air yards last 2 years). Wasn't good before Hill( he had bad coach that never wanted him and didn't let him play and build his confidence as a rookie or second year player. Not to mention Allen was busy before Diggs too.)He plays with such skill and anticipation that he doesn't get sacked a lot(kinda like Brady and Breese did). Just because you are hater doesn't mean you know anything about football.
Facts bro … These ppl are hired. Aint no way Tua throws into double/triple coverage consistently and you say he’s accurate!?!?!? Man get the fuck….
Boy, you wrote all that to say the most casual argument out there. There's people who can say what you said in a single sentence. 😂
@@darylesuggs1384 Allen was trash before Diggs bro.. look at the stats 😂 boy had a 10 and 20 TD YEAR. Then Diggs came he went to 37 TD’s. And his interception rate never changed. He still throws mad picks 😂
Oh and if you really followed the team you would’ve known that TUA drove the fins down the field for a game winning score over the cowboys. When the head set in the helmet was out for the whole 4th quarter.
Also, why yall even watch shit like this to get mad and hate on TUA praise 😂😂
Tua is trash, anybody can throw 50/50 balls to Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle!
Tua doesn’t do what Kurt was explaining in regards to “anticipation”
That's bullshit
Then explain it to me how he does it genius.
@@iafigueroa91 how he does what? Spot throw. He simply throws it to the spot that the receiver is supposed to be in, regardless if the timing is disrupted or not.
@@josephbell7648every QB throws to a spot. The spot where the receiver is supposed to be. I’m pretty sure that’s the job of the QB.
@josephbell7648 that is the most ignorant and arrogant thing I've read on youtube in a while. damn lol
Tua relies on Hill way to much. He is his first read every time of course but he waits to long to read two, three. Then he gets happy feet and runs for his life instead of looking downfield. Then even Hill has dropped some easy passes when we needed them. I know they are going to pay him, but he can't beat a good team consistently and we better get a hell of backup! Hope I'm wrong :( McDaniel's, you may want to run more and involve a tight end or two.
Only thing he likes about Tua is the crosses he paints on his face. No legit person thinks Tua is good