For the scarecrow thing: They said the scarecrows in the back of the FIELD had shields, and the ones in the front of the FIELD had money. They were separated. I think Will must have misheard the explanation of that challenge.
I don't think the traitors are allowed to try to directly accuse another traitor. I think day one there was something in the "you are a traitor letter" that says something to the effect "you cannot reveal the other traitors". So I think for Dan to save himself by implicating Parv or Phaedra he would have to do something more indirect like Parv did at the round table when saying it is likely it's a housewife thereby including Phaedra as a suspected traitor without saying her name. Best bet for Dan is somebody else brings one of them up and he does not defend them but subtly validates/encourages them to stay on the idea.
It's a little unclear. Because if traitors can never say each other's names, then it can be easy to deduce who everyone is. A faithful could prove they're a faithful by just accusing every single person at the round table. Now they can't be a traitor, because traitors can't call out other traitors.
@survivorspecialists I went back to ep. 2 when Parv got the letter and it just says "you must always keep your identity a secret" so maybe I made that other part up.
Alright to address the Janelle Big Brother thing so it’s not every comment in here: I don’t watch Big Brother. I quickly googled Janelle Big Brother winner. I posted in the live chat the response I got as the top choice. It was from a fandom site so maybe it was a fan fictions. Who knows. But I am aware she did not win Big Brother.
Looked it up again and it’s literally some fan Big Brother with dolls lol. That was not clear from the initial look. But on clicking the link it is obviously not real. I apologize to all those in the Big Brother community I have offended. We will get through this.
as big a Dan fan as I am I hate to say that Dan is done next episode..he only has 1 card left to play and if it fails, he out. His reason for murdering Bergie wasn't even that strong and even if Bergie didn't have the shield that would have thrown suspicion on him either way.
Its really interesting that sandra, ct, and dan have voted the same each time. It does sound suspicious. And really makes Janelle look like she was on to something
Janelle was a two time 3rd place finisher getting cut right before the end both times. In her more recent BB seasons she didn't even make Jury including the season she was on with Dan
I think Edit is tricking us...I think Dan will go with someone inside rather than Bergie. Maybe he'll go for him later. Edit tricked us at end of 4 because Phaedra was upset over Parv choosing a HW and yet she picked Tamra to kill. Will is supposedly coming but not to play...to host or something. Don't like Kate coming in.
I have no idea. But a commercial was released on peacock with Parv promoting Argylle, Matthew Vaughn's new movie. Rumor has it she was also the first person production called for this season. I dont think she wins this season but win or lose, i think she is production's favorite this season. Ironically, i think Sandra's getting the winner édit. How funny would it for history to repeat itself with Sandra beating Parv again but still remaining in her shadow at the end of the day because of Parv's amazing game versus Sandra's lackluster utr game. If you think about it, Parv is screwed because she cant vote out Sandra otherwise everyone will know she is a traitor so she has to keep her until the very end and since people already suspect Parv, once they get to F6/F5, if they are both still in the game, people will get Parv out and Sandra will be in the clear bzcause no way two survivor queens are traitors so she is guaranteed to be in the end. What makes me think Sandra goes further than Parv is that Parv is a class act. She doesn't care if people think Sandra is better than her or not. In her mind, she has nothing to prove. Sandra on the other hand can't stand people saying Parv is better than her or that Parv is the true queen of Survivor. Had she lost or lost to Parv, we'd be hearing all about the Anger and bitterness on her social média yet she seems calm and silent and seemed satisfied with hier game when she was on Fairplay's recap of épisode 4 but what do i know?
@@michelghorayeb9950right on point on Parv and Sandra. But it’s not impossible for both of them to be traitors. If a traitor gets eliminated for example Dan the remaining traitors can recruit Sandra.
the 2nd most visible character in s1 (behind cirie), that a lot of people watching live LOVED comes back and will asks if shes memorable wtffff honestly its clear in this stream u guys need more time watching the traitors to do this (i love your survivor podcasts but man u aint no specialists here)
Phaedra is too insulated. Just like Cirie was. She has CT whom she calls her castle husband. Sandra who said in an interview that she wanted to ride with the HW. Bergie, who Dan even said that Phaedra was really close to. And MJ. Dan can't change John & Peter' vote. But since Peter already thinks Pavariti is a traitor. He could possibly swing Peter' & John. Oh, Trishelle isn't going to vote for Phaedra either. Dan is dead man walking. Wrong reads everywhere. Y'all couldn't last on Traitors. You overthink it just like Dan.
Yeah, Phaedra isn't getting the votes. Parv is Dan's only option, and at this point, it's probably too little too late. Do you think anyone will ever vote for Phaedra at the round table?
@@survivorspecialists I don't know. But the social bonds seems to grow tighter as the season proceeds. To the point people start saying in Season 1. They could never have believed Cirie was a traitor. Phaedra might be on the trajectory. If she doesn't slip up like Cody.
@@phoenixrising8231 Never said I think Phaedra is getting votes and going home. Just from what we've seen so far, Dan targeting Phaedra seems more likely than turning on parv.
Has there ever been 4 traitors at once? Because maybe Alan comes in after they discuss and gives them the option to recruit OR murder and they choose to recruit? I’m just having such a hard time believing that the producers would clearly spoil it with that preview showing all players at the roundtable.
I usually don't care for challenges in any of these shows but absolutely loved this challenge. It was so funny and full of delight.
Fun fact the actual winner of Big Brother 12 was Hayden from Blood vs Water
Janelle never won any of her 4 seasons but won the reward they give which was American’s favorite multiple times on her seasons.
For the scarecrow thing: They said the scarecrows in the back of the FIELD had shields, and the ones in the front of the FIELD had money. They were separated. I think Will must have misheard the explanation of that challenge.
The Sandra/Janelle moment had me 😮
It was so good! Give Janelle a shield so we can see that again.
Bro- does Will have short term memory loss? Kate was clearly the most visible player on Season 1
He did say he binged this awhile ago.
That being said, I totally agree she was the most prominent person on season 1. And I wasn’t a fan.
I binged it at 1.5 speed not knowing at all I'd be podcasting about it.
I don't think the traitors are allowed to try to directly accuse another traitor. I think day one there was something in the "you are a traitor letter" that says something to the effect "you cannot reveal the other traitors". So I think for Dan to save himself by implicating Parv or Phaedra he would have to do something more indirect like Parv did at the round table when saying it is likely it's a housewife thereby including Phaedra as a suspected traitor without saying her name. Best bet for Dan is somebody else brings one of them up and he does not defend them but subtly validates/encourages them to stay on the idea.
It's a little unclear. Because if traitors can never say each other's names, then it can be easy to deduce who everyone is. A faithful could prove they're a faithful by just accusing every single person at the round table. Now they can't be a traitor, because traitors can't call out other traitors.
@survivorspecialists I went back to ep. 2 when Parv got the letter and it just says "you must always keep your identity a secret" so maybe I made that other part up.
Kate was amazing in season 1 and a fan favorite
Kinda blows my mind she was a fan favorite.
How does Kate know not to take a drink from Parvati? Does everybody in the house know? Was Kate sequestered during the beginning of the show?
I don't think anyone bu the Traitors knows about Parv giving Ekin-Su the drink. Kate must have been sequestered!
Hey, I loved Kate from S1. Im glad she's back. She was trying to get traitors in S1 but most of the randoms were just clueless.
Yeah, I just wasn't a fan of the pouty attitude when things weren't going her way.
Alright to address the Janelle Big Brother thing so it’s not every comment in here:
I don’t watch Big Brother. I quickly googled Janelle Big Brother winner.
I posted in the live chat the response I got as the top choice. It was from a fandom site so maybe it was a fan fictions. Who knows. But I am aware she did not win Big Brother.
Looked it up again and it’s literally some fan Big Brother with dolls lol. That was not clear from the initial look. But on clicking the link it is obviously not real.
I apologize to all those in the Big Brother community I have offended. We will get through this.
as big a Dan fan as I am I hate to say that Dan is done next episode..he only has 1 card left to play and if it fails, he out. His reason for murdering Bergie wasn't even that strong and even if Bergie didn't have the shield that would have thrown suspicion on him either way.
Yeah.... he's doomed I think.
Kate is a drama queen and that’s what this show needs
She's just not the type of drama that I like.
Its really interesting that sandra, ct, and dan have voted the same each time. It does sound suspicious. And really makes Janelle look like she was on to something
It’s because they’re in the gamer alliance
Why in the preview they showed the whole round table and not just Dan’s face talking 😂😂😂
That would have made too much sense...
Janelle was a two time 3rd place finisher getting cut right before the end both times. In her more recent BB seasons she didn't even make Jury including the season she was on with Dan
Thank you for the comment! This helps me so I can pretend I know what I'm talking about moving forward without watching Big Brother.
@@survivorspecialists glad I can help you fake it till you make it 😂
Wouldn't they have to have had Kate sequestered...otherwise she might know who traitor are.
I think Edit is tricking us...I think Dan will go with someone inside rather than Bergie. Maybe he'll go for him later. Edit tricked us at end of 4 because Phaedra was upset over Parv choosing a HW and yet she picked Tamra to kill. Will is supposedly coming but not to play...to host or something. Don't like Kate coming in.
Apparently Janelle called out Parv but it was cut from the édit. I wonder why
Saw that Janelle said this. Does that mean it won't matter? Or is Janelle making herself sound better?
I have no idea. But a commercial was released on peacock with Parv promoting Argylle, Matthew Vaughn's new movie. Rumor has it she was also the first person production called for this season. I dont think she wins this season but win or lose, i think she is production's favorite this season.
Ironically, i think Sandra's getting the winner édit.
How funny would it for history to repeat itself with Sandra beating Parv again but still remaining in her shadow at the end of the day because of Parv's amazing game versus Sandra's lackluster utr game.
If you think about it, Parv is screwed because she cant vote out Sandra otherwise everyone will know she is a traitor so she has to keep her until the very end and since people already suspect Parv, once they get to F6/F5, if they are both still in the game, people will get Parv out and Sandra will be in the clear bzcause no way two survivor queens are traitors so she is guaranteed to be in the end.
What makes me think Sandra goes further than Parv is that Parv is a class act. She doesn't care if people think Sandra is better than her or not. In her mind, she has nothing to prove.
Sandra on the other hand can't stand people saying Parv is better than her or that Parv is the true queen of Survivor. Had she lost or lost to Parv, we'd be hearing all about the Anger and bitterness on her social média yet she seems calm and silent and seemed satisfied with hier game when she was on Fairplay's recap of épisode 4 but what do i know?
@@michelghorayeb9950right on point on Parv and Sandra. But it’s not impossible for both of them to be traitors. If a traitor gets eliminated for example Dan the remaining traitors can recruit Sandra.
Janelle was pretty bitter on that interview tho so 😂
Janelle did not BB12 lol
the 2nd most visible character in s1 (behind cirie), that a lot of people watching live LOVED comes back and will asks if shes memorable wtffff
honestly its clear in this stream u guys need more time watching the traitors to do this
(i love your survivor podcasts but man u aint no specialists here)
:( I still think I'm a specialist. I remember Kate. All too well, unfortunately.
Phaedra is too insulated. Just like Cirie was. She has CT whom she calls her castle husband. Sandra who said in an interview that she wanted to ride with the HW. Bergie, who Dan even said that Phaedra was really close to. And MJ. Dan can't change John & Peter' vote. But since Peter already thinks Pavariti is a traitor. He could possibly swing Peter' & John. Oh, Trishelle isn't going to vote for Phaedra either. Dan is dead man walking. Wrong reads everywhere. Y'all couldn't last on Traitors. You overthink it just like Dan.
Yeah, Phaedra isn't getting the votes. Parv is Dan's only option, and at this point, it's probably too little too late. Do you think anyone will ever vote for Phaedra at the round table?
@@survivorspecialists I don't know. But the social bonds seems to grow tighter as the season proceeds. To the point people start saying in Season 1. They could never have believed Cirie was a traitor. Phaedra might be on the trajectory. If she doesn't slip up like Cody.
@@phoenixrising8231 Never said I think Phaedra is getting votes and going home. Just from what we've seen so far, Dan targeting Phaedra seems more likely than turning on parv.
So sloppy with the spoiler in the preview
Truly terrible.
Has there ever been 4 traitors at once? Because maybe Alan comes in after they discuss and gives them the option to recruit OR murder and they choose to recruit?
I’m just having such a hard time believing that the producers would clearly spoil it with that preview showing all players at the roundtable.
There has to be something, right? Right?
The Traitors Australia season 1 started with 4 traitors
That challenge was sooo boring 😴🥱 👎🏽
Will convinced me of the shield idea... but people running around making bird noises... Not so much
Janelle did not win BB12, Rachel did. Janelle is a 4 time Big Brother loser.
This is also wrong lmao. She won BB13. Hayden won BB12