How The West Was Won | Grant and Sherman After The Battle of Shiloh | Warner Classics

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  • @azohundred1353
    @azohundred1353 2 месяца назад +127

    How The West Was Was Won has one of the greatest ensemble casts in film history, in my opinion.

    • @kfiscal01
      @kfiscal01 2 месяца назад +13

      The Longest Day for me.

    • @glhmedic
      @glhmedic 2 месяца назад +6

      @@kfiscal01same here. The Longest Day by a mile

    • @RonaldDownham
      @RonaldDownham 2 месяца назад

      How the West was won is alot better then the Longest Day by along shot .

    • @pdm2201
      @pdm2201 2 месяца назад +3

      And great music too.

    • @32shumble
      @32shumble 2 месяца назад +10

      @@kfiscal01 coincidently John Wayne played John Wayne in both films

  • @teletran1175
    @teletran1175 2 месяца назад +38

    I love the look of those old movie sets. It makes me feel like a kid again.

    • @michaelstanley3961
      @michaelstanley3961 2 месяца назад +1

      Better than the crap we get today...

    • @AbdulGabagool83
      @AbdulGabagool83 29 дней назад

      @@michaelstanley3961they had to get really clever with set building before cgi. A lost art

  • @paullewis2413
    @paullewis2413 2 месяца назад +64

    When I was a kid I was taken to see this movie. It was shown in Cinerama (the original 3 strip) and I was in awe of the gigantic screen and amazing sound. I’ll never forget the experience at such an impressionable age. 😊

    • @peterm5453
      @peterm5453 2 месяца назад +5

      The final chapter of the film where sherrif George Peppard takes on Eli Wallace's gang of train robbers was tremendous viewing.

    • @tomscott4438
      @tomscott4438 2 месяца назад +5

      Yup, me too. Saw this and it's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World at the same theatre, and Spencer Tracy was in both.

    • @alainangibaud8128
      @alainangibaud8128 2 месяца назад +2

      Moi aussi c’est le premier film que ma mère m’a emmené voir au cinéma !

    • @selewachm
      @selewachm 2 месяца назад

      My Dad took it to see it on Broadway in Manhattan when I was a kid. The film was released in 1962 which would have made me 9. l remember all of it!!

    • @tomtallmon
      @tomtallmon 2 месяца назад

      Yes that's how I was back in the seventies in the late 60s The Three Point screen that gave a good wide effect compared to what today technology is ​@@tomscott4438

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer6112 2 месяца назад +26

    That scenery is so true to life. And the color of the film also.

  • @AbdulGabagool83
    @AbdulGabagool83 29 дней назад +2

    This is a very visually stunning movie. It among other movies inspired me to see the American southwest and beautiful nature there❤

  • @robertnymand9889
    @robertnymand9889 2 месяца назад +26

    Another great western! I can watch this one over and over. Great cast!

  • @alvaropelayo8084
    @alvaropelayo8084 2 месяца назад +40

    John Wayne was, as always, great, no matter what anybody might say or write about it. God bless him.

    • @mjford6152
      @mjford6152 2 месяца назад +4

      Not a Sherman type at all. The silk scarf is laughable.

    • @cfox7811
      @cfox7811 2 месяца назад +3

      Wayne played the same character in every role he played. Bloody awful actor.

    • @aresee8208
      @aresee8208 2 месяца назад +4

      What's interesting to me about John Wayne is that it seems as if he were in every war in American history (and was in favor of all of them) without actually ever having served in any of them. He was never in the miltary. And when all his acting contemporaries were actually fighting in World War II, he was back home in California playing soldier in war movies.

    • @mikefowler301
      @mikefowler301 2 месяца назад +3

      @@aresee8208 I see history isn't your friend and ignorance or Stupid? is........... He tried (oh he certainly tried), Just like every other actor back then lot's got in but the Military said no way to Wayne, But I'm not writing a book for you (probably can't read), Go find out yourself. USN Vet.

    • @aresee8208
      @aresee8208 2 месяца назад +2

      @@mikefowler301 No, Wayne was initially classified 1-A, Draft Eligible. But he requested a 3-A Hardship Deferment due to family commitments. To be clear, he was perfectly entitled to his deferment - and he took it. Clearly, it was good for his career. When so many actors were in the military fighting for their country, Wayne was in Hollywood making lots of money. Look it up.

  • @rickjohnson6559
    @rickjohnson6559 2 месяца назад +7

    At the time it was made I was in jr high. It was a grand epic. And still is today. To enlist every a list actor and actress. I still hear Debbie Reynolds singing " I'll build you a home in the meadow. ". Tears fill my eyes as I'm old now. And I look to the meadow and greet my family ❤😢

    • @RoySmiles100
      @RoySmiles100 2 месяца назад +1

      Debbie Reynolds is FANTASTIC in the movie. You're right: the song is haunting.

  • @keithmartin9002
    @keithmartin9002 2 месяца назад +21

    Great classic with one of greatest cast ever🇺🇸this a American story

  • @vanpelt2321
    @vanpelt2321 2 месяца назад +3

    Even though Ford hated the Cinerama process, here are all the great Fordian themes, packed down and overflowing in full measure. The mystical bond between the mother and son and their wordless agony in parting, the Communion of Saints (the supplication of the living to those who are long dead) and even the giving up of the spirit symbolized by the fluttering kerchief, a leitmotif Ford originally used with Doc Holliday's death in "My Darling Clementine". For young filmmakers who care to sit up and notice, here is a master class in cinema from the master poet of the art. Especially in a great film generally written off in Ford's canon as forgettable fluff.

  • @jliller
    @jliller 2 месяца назад +57

    I didn't realize Colonel Potter was General Grant reincarnated. It does explain his love of horses.

    • @bandoron
      @bandoron 2 месяца назад

      yeah as soon as i heard the voice i was like holy crap.

    • @marksnyder8022
      @marksnyder8022 2 месяца назад +5

      Before he played Col. Potter, he had a guest appearance on MASH as General Steele, a racist officer who conducts a court martial where he insists a Black officer "give us a number" 🤦🏻‍♂️ before testifying. He should have said, "Just the facts sir, just the facts."

    • @Sabe53
      @Sabe53 2 месяца назад +1

      He was Sherman not Grant.

    • @xolotl8860
      @xolotl8860 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Sabe53 John Wayne is playing Sherman, Harry Morgan (Col. Potter) is playing Grant.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Sabe53 Harry was Grant, John Wayne was Sherman.

  • @hiyathere-c5v
    @hiyathere-c5v 2 месяца назад +5

    I saw and LOVED this film ... on the BIG screen ... when it first came out ... a long long long long long long time ago! GREAT PIC!

  • @highstepperARF
    @highstepperARF 2 месяца назад +108

    Col Potter was in the Army a long time.

    • @bearpitt
      @bearpitt 2 месяца назад +6

      Did stint as a LA police detective in the middle.

    • @timorean320
      @timorean320 2 месяца назад +8

      Sherman, talking to Sherman T. Potter.

    • @georgesakellaropoulos8162
      @georgesakellaropoulos8162 2 месяца назад +6

      It would be funny if the T stood for Tecumseh. ​@timorean320

    • @chrisfoxwell4128
      @chrisfoxwell4128 2 месяца назад

      ​@@georgesakellaropoulos8162, it did.

    • @crapphone7744
      @crapphone7744 2 месяца назад

      Retread😂

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 2 месяца назад +5

    What timing! Recently visited the Shiloh, Tenn - Corinth, Mississippi battlefield areas.

  • @jody6851
    @jody6851 2 месяца назад +6

    I saw "How the West Was Won" with my parents as a little kid in the special Cinerama movie theater near me. The technique was revolutionary at the time. Giant wide screen epic 3 and four hour films with an intermission that made you feel inside the movie long before IMAX was introduced. One of the other famous scenes in this film was being at ground level in the middle of a giant buffalo stampede. You felt like hundreds of buffalo were running right over you.

  • @kathy.7475
    @kathy.7475 Месяц назад +1

    My aunt took me to see that movie in San Francisco when I was a girl. It was shown in Cinerama, something previously unheard of. It was amazing, like being right there in the picture myself.

  • @kenharvey8161
    @kenharvey8161 2 месяца назад +42

    Angry Soldier: "Why can't you look where you're going?"
    Grant: "I'm sorry, soldier."
    That is exactly how Grant would have responded in that situation.

    • @mikeoyler2983
      @mikeoyler2983 2 месяца назад +3

      Wasn't that Sherman? I guess it was Grant, but I have to say the way how they put Harry Morgan in his costume I thought that was Sherman.

    • @ronkelley1191
      @ronkelley1191 2 месяца назад +2

      I think that the soldier was ken curtis

    • @Zarastro54
      @Zarastro54 2 месяца назад +2

      @@mikeoyler2983John Wayne was playing Sherman and he wasn’t the one shoved.

    • @mikeoyler2983
      @mikeoyler2983 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Zarastro54 I know. Im saying that Wayne looks more like Grant and Morgan looks more like Sherman.

    • @JohnMinehan-lx9ts
      @JohnMinehan-lx9ts 2 месяца назад

      @@mikeoyler2983 Not really, like Grant , Morgan was average in Hight and not prepossessing . . . .

  • @drcharles66
    @drcharles66 2 месяца назад +6

    I saw this movie here in Atlanta. For those who dont know about the CineRama process; There were three projectors showing three different filmed that were synced such that the three films blended perfectly. You could see a slight seam between the films. That scene with Carol Baker if you looked closely you could see the seam. IIRC the film was rereleased in the conventional format but the seam was still there. Great film!!

  • @diogenesofsinope3730
    @diogenesofsinope3730 2 месяца назад +2

    Saw this in the amazing Cinerama format in 1963: Three synchronized 35mm projectors onto a huge, deeply curved screen, subtending 146-degrees of arc. This explains the unusual anamorphic perspectives in this movie.
    Five years later I saw 2001: A Space Odyssey in this same theatre with a modified Cinerama system using single lens Super Panavision 70.
    The two best movie experiences of my childhood!

  • @jon-francis9289
    @jon-francis9289 2 месяца назад +6

    That little speech by Sherman to Grant was the of the great pick me ups in film history. Short and straight to the point. The Duke at his best. 'A man has the right to resign only when he's wrong, not if he's right'. 'The army's better off with you than without you, that's the test'.

    • @clintonreisig
      @clintonreisig 2 месяца назад

      Sherman was up to no major non-sense on the battlefield 😅

    • @Robert-is7du
      @Robert-is7du 2 месяца назад

      The script of John Wayne is code talk
      Polarity factor types
      The right Wayne refers to when he says ONLY if Ur right foot
      What does he mean by that as the electrical acceleration of ur right foot pedal Lotus Breathing eternal absolute pure love for all sacred living sentient life forms directly tethered to the Primal electrified Eternal Krystal acoustical eternal source of all sentient life form electrical power supply to experience being Totally loved and totally relaxed being U
      The left he refers to is magnetic left foot
      Now we can talk about bloodline RH factor types of positive magnetic Hemispheres ATP Kreb cycle immunity function Firewall shield 🌋 to protect ur original metaboliic cellular reproduction cycles breathing pure internal eternal absolute love on Fire to Create God source worlds NOT Artificial cloned life forms phantom Matrix Victim victimizer QI Shadow Body Miasma AI QI coded network communication codes
      They're always at War with Helium
      Tetrahydrolase fused with Helium Sophianic Rasha body 15D Avatar 3 spheres Gaias Motherboard logic test results
      Their running Black Goo Google Maps mirrors
      They cannot Map read what they don't love in their own Heart and Soul Spirit Sun Temple essence
      That's a Black Mirror
      They go to war cycle after generation after generation after generation after generation after generation after generation that their central Neural Circuitry has NO LOVE Feelings to experience and express to their own living DNA cellular processing system network and that's a dead light water codes that has no love for U
      Just like UR phone laptop and desktop PC
      Is ur phone communicating pure eternal absolute love to ur Heart and Soul Spirit Sun Temple essence to feel better eternal absolute pure love Krystal River 🌈 Aurora's Sun power communicating with U
      B cuz that's what eye am communicating to U B cuz that's what eye am
      Eye am ManU
      First eternal sound and KhundA Rays of Golden Fire light Spirit Creative body Sophianic Avatar shield communication codes
      Mu ah VA 💋 🌈 Aurora's

    • @jon-francis9289
      @jon-francis9289 2 месяца назад

      @@Robert-is7du Thanks for clearing that all up. It's a pity the Duke is no longer with us. He'd have been right on board with all that stuff.

    • @johnnyelizabethton
      @johnnyelizabethton 2 месяца назад

      @@Robert-is7du _I_ was gonna say that!

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 2 месяца назад

      And, best of all, it really happened.

  • @Oldguy-k3t
    @Oldguy-k3t 2 месяца назад +2

    Love how the cannons fire in quick sequence!

  • @robertnymand9889
    @robertnymand9889 2 месяца назад +15

    Spencer Tracey was great narrator too!

  • @metallampman
    @metallampman 2 месяца назад +5

    great great movie makes me feel old most of the actors are gone

  • @rabbitandcrow
    @rabbitandcrow 2 месяца назад +15

    This movie was meant to be seen in Cinerama, a spectacular projection format that used a curved screen so you felt like you immersed in the action - almost like a precursor to VR. That's why the framing looks so weird. You have to imagine the sides of the image sort of wrapping around you. And the original aspect ratio was much wider - this has been cropped.

    • @TheTerryGene
      @TheTerryGene 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes. The BluRay of the film is available in a “SmileBox” (curved screen) edition that approximates the Cinerama aspect ratio.

  • @LouisBourett
    @LouisBourett 2 месяца назад +20

    The dead soldier they brought in the hospital scene was captain Linus rawlings. George prepards father

    • @kenharvey8161
      @kenharvey8161 2 месяца назад +5

      aka Jimmy Stewart

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 2 месяца назад

      ​@@kenharvey8161they actually shot that scene BEFORE Jimmy's scenes at the beginning of the film were filmed which is why it clearly isn't Jimmy on the table.

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 2 месяца назад +1

      Awful shock for the audience I bet at the time...

  • @bocagoodtimes1460
    @bocagoodtimes1460 2 месяца назад +1

    This was back when the Civil War was a tragedy and both sides were respected.

  • @thomasspeetzen7658
    @thomasspeetzen7658 2 месяца назад

    Not only the cast, but also the 4 most notable directors (different segments) of the time

  •  2 месяца назад +1

    A truley wonderful movie, i saw in in Cinerama in LA with my mother,, We saw ALL the Cinerama movies 🙂 the cannon all going off was the Intermission..

  • @Mammothsaber-4457
    @Mammothsaber-4457 2 месяца назад +17

    One of the few older depictions of Grant that doesn’t seem to have been tainted by the Lost cause movement.

    • @Jsoberon
      @Jsoberon 2 месяца назад +2

      Agreed, they did a great job with the accuracy. Even Sherman's hand is injured as it was in real life. Though it is a bit funny how they have this very expository conversation about historical events that they definitely wouldn't have had.

    • @jollyjohnthepirate3168
      @jollyjohnthepirate3168 2 месяца назад +1

      They didn't just call Sherman crazy. He was most likely bi polar and was suffering from severe depression. His wife took him home to Ohio and he recuperated while on leave. He alone saw what kind of a war this would become and the knowledge broke him.

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 2 месяца назад +3

      Really? those crying about the lost causers are usually woke jokes

    • @Mammothsaber-4457
      @Mammothsaber-4457 2 месяца назад +7

      @@johnhallett5846 criticizing the lost cause movement has nothing to do with being woke. The Lost Cause movement is historical revisionism, which should be criticized regardless of politics

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 2 месяца назад

      @@Mammothsaber-4457 actually it is a woke invention and anyone claiming otherwise is an idiot. The lost cause so called movement ended like one hundred years ago. The woke jokes try and label anyone that is not a rabid hater of anything southern as a lost causer.

  • @joseantoniopazosvega9621
    @joseantoniopazosvega9621 2 месяца назад +4

    Después de Shiloh el Sur nunca volvió a sonreír.

  • @mikeking7470
    @mikeking7470 2 месяца назад +2

    This may be the best damn western movie ever made. It certainly was both the widest format and the biggest cast of A-listers ever assembled!

  • @weitzfc1
    @weitzfc1 2 месяца назад +2

    you have never had a great theater going experience until you have seen how the west was won in cinerama.

  • @mikeweisberg5907
    @mikeweisberg5907 2 месяца назад

    When I was a kid I lived in Torrance, Cali I remember going to Grumens Chines Theater in Hollywood. Everything seemed gigantic (I was probably 4 or 5) I don’t recall the movie but it was loud and the movie seemed very epic

  • @douglashogg4848
    @douglashogg4848 2 месяца назад +8

    After Shiloh, Sherman knew the war would be long and bloody.

    • @marksnyder8022
      @marksnyder8022 2 месяца назад +3

      I think he knew that already. He had been an instructor at the Louisiana Military Institute (which became LSU) before the war. He was in command of most of Kentucky when he announced that it would require 200,000 Union troops to win the war. This very high number caused him to be labeled insane as he mentions here. In the end, it took about 3,000,000 to give the Union victory.

    • @Degan1000
      @Degan1000 2 месяца назад

      @@marksnyder8022 It was Grant who talked Sherman into staying with the army after war was declared. Quote from Sherman in early 1861 : "You politicians have got us into a fine fix. I think this will be a long war, very long. Much longer than any of you think. And I want no part of it."
      Incidentally, the Governor of Texas, Sam Houston, was against succession for this same reason. He fortold that the war would be long and costly in both money and lives. And he doubted the South could win. He was voted out of office by the Texas legislature.

  • @abundantYOUniverse
    @abundantYOUniverse 2 месяца назад +2

    My God George Peppard looks like a kid in this.

  • @dirkbogarde44
    @dirkbogarde44 2 месяца назад

    Such a great movie.

  • @wasclit11
    @wasclit11 2 месяца назад +2

    At Shiloh one battle was called The Hornets Nest and the Union had more than 50 cannons. Confederates named the location the Hornet's Nest because so many bullets were being fired that it sounded like a swarm of angry hornets.

  • @crapphone7744
    @crapphone7744 2 месяца назад

    I'm sending the dog home as he goes off to enlist is one of the saddest things I think I've ever seen.

  • @nancyjanzen5676
    @nancyjanzen5676 2 месяца назад

    The score was great my high school band recorded it.

  • @curtisburga943
    @curtisburga943 2 месяца назад +1

    This was the segment directed by John Ford, who, apparently could not get used to the camera's field of view. A lot of shots were ruined because the cameras would pickup up crew members standing off to the side. That's why the whole segment is for the Civil War is basically this 11 minute youtube video.

  • @benjamindemornay1444
    @benjamindemornay1444 2 месяца назад +1

    It's a great movie for a great country
    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN❤

    • @nkel6111
      @nkel6111 2 месяца назад

      its a garbage country based on theft, killing, and deviousness

    • @clearlycaribbeanreb2895
      @clearlycaribbeanreb2895 Месяц назад

      @@nkel6111Thanks to all the trash the Left has let in. 😉

  • @surfermick8265
    @surfermick8265 2 месяца назад

    Made a huge impression on me saw this at the Cinerama pivotal film for me.

  • @magnificus8581
    @magnificus8581 2 месяца назад

    Wonderful score

  • @act1tv482
    @act1tv482 2 месяца назад +2

    Is there a movie or just youtube commercials?

  • @sammywestenberger9303
    @sammywestenberger9303 2 месяца назад +6

    Sherman: Hi 👋

  • @aa64912
    @aa64912 2 месяца назад

    An amazing sound track

  •  2 месяца назад +1

    They asked a soldier at Waterloo about the events of the day and he said;”Damned ,if I know.I spent all day being ridden over by every fool on a horse!”

  • @jaysonpida5379
    @jaysonpida5379 2 месяца назад

    Linus Rollings ( the dead captain) was the Jimmy Stewart character from the earlier 'chapters'.

  • @johnmac3410
    @johnmac3410 2 месяца назад

    Great battle scenes, before CG! George Peppards character resembled Steven Cranes main subject in "Red Badge of Courage".

  • @libertyvilleguy2903
    @libertyvilleguy2903 2 месяца назад

    Great, great film.

  • @berean77
    @berean77 2 месяца назад

    Saw this movie at the Loew's Paradise theater in the Bronx when it came out. They don't make theaters like that anymore.

  • @maxlinder5262
    @maxlinder5262 2 месяца назад +4

    Rina Marlowe..& Jonas Cord....😮

  • @EndingSimple
    @EndingSimple 2 месяца назад +3

    amazing anti-war scene for back then. Clint Eastwood looked more like Sherman then John Wayne. I've always been disappointed that Robin Williams never got to portray Ulysses S. Grant. He would have been perfect for the role.

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 2 месяца назад

      Whenever someone talks anti war I know they are a moron. Show me a film that was actually pro war? The list will be very short

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 2 месяца назад

      Morgan almost looks just like him!!!..Not sure who Wayne might have resembled.

    • @trynnallen
      @trynnallen Месяц назад

      @@projektkobra2247 Not being mean...Hooker. He's too heavy for McClellan, or Meade, or Rosencranz, too slight for Burnside. He'd actually been a better Grant if Wayne could have learned how to look perpetually tired and worn out.

  • @johnavast5939
    @johnavast5939 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow thank you so much - I had no idea about this movie. I'd heard of it but I just chalked it up to maybe being one of those sappy westerns. I definitely need to watch this full movie. Thank you so much

    • @jkorshak
      @jkorshak 2 месяца назад

      It's definitely sappy. It's also a grand spectacle epic packed with Hollywood stars of the era in big roles and small. It essentially follows one family and their offspring from the late 1830's and the early days of westward expansion to the late 1880's. Hollywood Classic.

  • @thomasfricker7330
    @thomasfricker7330 2 месяца назад

    Great movie

  • @bikehikephototech
    @bikehikephototech Месяц назад +1

    Why doesn't Warner Bros Classics give us the full three strip view?

  • @OldHickoryAndyJackson
    @OldHickoryAndyJackson 2 месяца назад

    Everyone was in a state of disbelief after Shiloh, the Hornets Nest was brutal

  • @wilsonpickett3881
    @wilsonpickett3881 2 месяца назад +2

    It poured like cats and dogs that night.

  • @bertmustin
    @bertmustin 2 месяца назад +2

    Grant is acting like he barely passed a math quiz.

  • @johnnytheboy533
    @johnnytheboy533 2 месяца назад +1

    The Duke and Colonel Potter.

  • @maestroclassico5801
    @maestroclassico5801 2 месяца назад

    Spencer Tracy narrating.....his voice commands

  • @projektkobra2247
    @projektkobra2247 2 месяца назад

    That poor Mom....

  • @nikoladedic6623
    @nikoladedic6623 2 месяца назад +2

    So, after the events of the Horse Soldiers, Marlowe was promoted to General and changed his name to William Tecumseh Sherman.
    XD

  • @paulbradford6475
    @paulbradford6475 2 месяца назад +1

    I haven't seen those scenes since 1964. I recall my parents talking about HTWWW saying that the movie couldn't decide if it was a musical (the Debbie Reynolds sing-a-long) or a war movie. Carol Baker was miscast. She was a bit too young to be George Pappard's mother...I reckon. However Walter Brennen played a pretty convincing river pirate.

    • @stvdagger8074
      @stvdagger8074 2 месяца назад +1

      She was 3 years younger than George Peppard.

    • @paulbradford6475
      @paulbradford6475 2 месяца назад

      @@stvdagger8074 Yup, that's perfect mis-casting.

  • @jasonlettorale5177
    @jasonlettorale5177 2 месяца назад

    Harry Morgan actually kind of looked like Grant. John Wayne did not look like Gen. Sherman. Super cool none the less. America needs more American movies!!!

  • @cejannuzi
    @cejannuzi 2 месяца назад

    I'd forgotten Wayne did a Cameo as Sherman.

  • @richardgrognard6394
    @richardgrognard6394 2 месяца назад +1

    longue vie aux confédérés

  • @brentfriedland
    @brentfriedland 2 месяца назад

    "Well Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" said Sherman. "Yep, but we'll lick 'em tomorrow." said Grant. Grant was relieved for a while. Shilow was the worst casualties of the war up until then and it was the real first battle in the US Civil War where both sides really stood and fought and attacked and defended. The Union did win that battle but it set the tone that this war was going to be bloody. It really had to do with the rebel PGT Beauregard that threw all of his troops at Sherman on the right and in the center and left Grant had them fall back to Pittsburgh Landing and take up defensive positions. From there the Union held it's ground and I think that is the fire that hardened and proved the Union Army of the West was the best and toughest Army.

  • @WillDouglas-z1h
    @WillDouglas-z1h 2 месяца назад +3

    That's not General Grant. It's Col. Potter of the 4077th.

  • @unclecreepy4324
    @unclecreepy4324 Месяц назад

    Fastest way to get promoted is to save the General's life.

  • @rickeuler5792
    @rickeuler5792 2 месяца назад +1

    This isn't after the battle. It's the night between the first and second day of battle.

  • @2011Matz
    @2011Matz Месяц назад

    I am not a John Wayne fan, but he makes a fair WT Sherman.

  • @CaptainColdyron222
    @CaptainColdyron222 2 месяца назад +2

    Sherman: “Well, Grant, we’ve had the devil’s own day, haven’t we?”
    Grant: “Yes. Lick ‘em tomorrow, though.”

  • @classicgunstoday1972
    @classicgunstoday1972 2 месяца назад

    Only time John Wayne ever played a bad guy

  • @ISIO-George
    @ISIO-George 2 месяца назад +2

    Not quite right on the battle. The battlefield was a sea of mud for most of the battle. There was no lack of confidence on Grant's part. The night of April 6th Sherman went to Grant to raise the subject of retreat. "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" he began. Grant replied, "Yes. Lick'em tomorrow, though."

  • @doorswhofan
    @doorswhofan 2 месяца назад

    The Civil War meets the Korean Conflict meets the 60s FBI. :-)

  • @jimmason1072
    @jimmason1072 2 месяца назад

    A who's who of American cinema.....😮

  • @gmansard641
    @gmansard641 Месяц назад

    Harry Morgan was a great actor, he appeared in so many movies alongside countless great stars. But I don't see him as General Grant. I think he'd make a better General Lee.

  • @longrider42
    @longrider42 2 месяца назад

    No, it was after the battle of Corinth , when the south never smiled. My Great Great Grandfather fought at the battle of Shiloh. The Union won because their reinforcements got there first. This is not a bad part of the movie. And the battle of Shiloh was fought pretty much in hilly wooded land. With a few, very few open places. I was there in April of 2012.

  • @d.m.3645
    @d.m.3645 2 месяца назад +2

    Ok, they should have switched actors for Sherman and Grant, height difference be d*mned.

  • @deadandburied7626
    @deadandburied7626 2 месяца назад

    Part of the movie directed by John Ford

  • @projektkobra2247
    @projektkobra2247 2 месяца назад

    Back when Ohio was thought of as "The West".

  • @kidsniffer2654
    @kidsniffer2654 2 месяца назад +5

    We are on the brink of the sequel, stay tuned.

  • @stravinsky1300
    @stravinsky1300 2 месяца назад

    Well acted but largely fictional. Grant was the one confident in victory, and had he been relieved or resigned, Sherman would not have replaced him: there were other generals there who were senior to him. And the moment of reassurance between them, where Sherman persuaded Grant to stay with the army, did not happen until months after Shiloh.

  • @TheBelegur
    @TheBelegur 2 месяца назад +3

    Does anyone else think John Wayne and Harry Morgan should have reversed roles?

  • @jeffwilsonfhb
    @jeffwilsonfhb 2 месяца назад

    Not AFTER, during. They're holding the rebs off until reinforced in the morning. Pittsburg Landing.

  • @pilates68
    @pilates68 2 месяца назад

    Funny how Russ Tamblyn met his fate in two movies with the name “West “ and both times by being stabbed by an actor named George.

  • @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists
    @BeautifuLakesStreamsBiologists 2 месяца назад

    Harry Morgan!

  • @joejankoski8471
    @joejankoski8471 2 месяца назад +2

    Wayne as Sherman has to be one of the worst casting choices. He's Wayne playing Wayne playing Sherman.

    • @user-tg3tj2nq6v
      @user-tg3tj2nq6v 2 месяца назад

      He's always Wayne in any role he played and not just westerns roles. A very one-dimensional actor.

    • @Hal-k8p
      @Hal-k8p Месяц назад

      No..... probably the worst role he was ever cast as has to be Genghis Khan. The Conqueror is widely known to be the worst movie Wayne ever did. Curious if, as Genghis Khan, he ever called anyone 'pilgrim.' I wonder how you say 'pilgrim' in Mongolian.

  • @marksnyder8022
    @marksnyder8022 2 месяца назад

    An old Hollywood dramatization of a conversation remembered for exactly two lines. It took place during the battle, not after. All day the Confederates pushed the Union troops back, threatening to push them into the Tennessee River. Grant forted up in a corner of the original field behind a deep ravine, where the Confederates couldn't easily attack Him. Sherman found him standing under a tree in the pouring rain smoking, as he had given up his headquarters for the use of the surgeons. Sherman said, "Well Grant, we've had the devil's own day." Grant replied "Yep, lick 'em tomorrow." The next day, Grant's freshly reinforced army drove the Confederates off the field and into retreat.

    • @Kevinwall-u8l
      @Kevinwall-u8l 2 месяца назад

      Johnston's aim was to push the Union away from the river and the protection of the gunboats and into the swamps.

    • @crapphone7744
      @crapphone7744 2 месяца назад

      @@marksnyder8022 as I recall, Sherman initially approached Grant for permission to withdraw, but on seeing the look in Grant's eye, changed his mind on what to say.

    • @marksnyder8022
      @marksnyder8022 2 месяца назад

      @@crapphone7744 I don't recall reading that, but I wouldn't be surprised. The three things that Grant had in his pocket were these: 1)his men, while battered, were behind a deep ravine that was near suicide to cross, as the Confederates had already found out. The Union soldiers were crammed into a pocket on a hill by that ravine. Grant had placed a lot of artillery on top of it; 2) Wallace's lost division had arrived and was on the field; 3)Buell's men were arriving from the north, with some regiments from the 4th division already deployed along the river out of sight. Sherman would not have known this if he asked to withdraw, but I think he knew some of it. If he asked to withdraw, I think it must have been earlier when their ranks were partially broken.

  • @MkVII
    @MkVII 2 месяца назад

    Sherman: "Well, Grant, we’ve had the devil’s own day, haven't we?" Grant: "Yes. Lick ‘em tomorrow though. " Pity they didn't put that exchange in.

  • @christophercooper4149
    @christophercooper4149 2 месяца назад +2

    John Wayne couldn’t act his way out of a paper bag.

    • @KaisasDad
      @KaisasDad 2 месяца назад

      Ever seen Sands of Iwo Jima ? His Sargent Stryker inspired men to enlist for many years.

  • @dinahnicest6525
    @dinahnicest6525 2 месяца назад

    A terrible tragedy in this movie gave us Lily Munster.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 2 месяца назад

      I'm curious what you mean? Morticia Addams Is in the film .... Carolyn Jones but where is the Lily Minster connection?

    • @dinahnicest6525
      @dinahnicest6525 2 месяца назад

      @@maestroclassico5801 Yvonne DeCarlo's husband was a stuntman. He got seriously injured in the trainwreck. I don't know if he ever worked again, but they needed money, so the old (by Hollywood's standards) movie star stepped down to a TV role.

    • @maestroclassico5801
      @maestroclassico5801 2 месяца назад +1

      @@dinahnicest6525 YES! I read that....the film roles dried up a bit and they needed money after his injury so she camped it up as Lily. Which she later said she had no regrets! She loved having young fans!

  • @projektkobra2247
    @projektkobra2247 2 месяца назад

    Always felt sorry for Texas Reb...he just wanted to bail...but saw a chance for fame.

  • @b42baritone
    @b42baritone Месяц назад

    Grant could not stand the site of blood.

  • @texasaggie8449
    @texasaggie8449 2 месяца назад

    Good movie. Damn yankees

  • @edwil111
    @edwil111 2 месяца назад

    part of me thinks this movie was sanitized propaganda (Manifest Destiny).
    Part of me says not. I mean the (we) Euros FARKED the Indians very time we could. Since 1607!
    . .is still a Cool movie. I visited Shiloh last year. I saw an Armadillo walking around there (first time for me as a native New Englander) ....sorry for the lecture! :)

    • @johnhallett5846
      @johnhallett5846 2 месяца назад

      wow and those who got their freedom acted just the same. Witness every country in the world. Its human nature; not societal. But then you woke jokes never are very smart. I mean look how the Mongols acted. Gonna blame Europe for that as well? The Chinese Emperors thousands of years earlier. Going to blame Europe for that as well?

    • @nancyjanzen5676
      @nancyjanzen5676 2 месяца назад

      Actually the Comanches got along well with the German settlers in Texas. The Germans never broke a deal.

  • @bikesnippets
    @bikesnippets 2 месяца назад

    Such an inaccurate film. Should change the name.

  • @otismygotis3670
    @otismygotis3670 Месяц назад

    The acting is absolutely terrible.

  • @TigerDude333
    @TigerDude333 2 месяца назад +2

    John Wayne as WT Sherman may be the worst historical casting ever.

    • @bertmustin
      @bertmustin 2 месяца назад +4

      John Wayne as Ghengis Khan.

    • @cejannuzi
      @cejannuzi 2 месяца назад +1

      @@bertmustin I was going to say, he was even worse as GK.

    • @gilson1982
      @gilson1982 2 месяца назад

      Why is that?