the fact vivi doesn't have more lines in total than Chuu post debut... Like Vivi has a whole two solo songs, a subunit and the carol and still can't pass Chuu who didnt have her solo debut or subunit yet???
BBC saying there are no official positions but it's obvious who they prefer. In new MV you could barely even see Vivi at this point she will most likely stay one of the most underrated members till the end of their career.
1) Who they prefer = who is better* 2) Gowon exists, also her didn't had any line and especially during the part with her + vivi, the lead voice was vivi's, so at the end of the day gowon hadn't lines, bah And I wonder why some people think only vivi hasn't
@@grace7406 but vivi and Gowon luckily they get famous for a lot of memes and if bbc can’t give them lines they at least have some popularity in funny moments
it just makes me sad that vivi had a whole modelling career in hong kong and was even getting acting gigs but she left it all behind to come to a foreign country and learn a whole new language. she hasn't seen her friends and family in such a long time all to become part of loona and she gets treated like this. I can't even imagine what it would be like to have given up so much to be given so little in return. her best friend from hong kong was even posting on instagram about unfair it is that vivi barely gets anything.
@@peachmilf8175 it was on her ig story so it's gone now but someone on twitter got a screenshot with translation twitter.com/vivisatanic/status/1409667430608035847?s=19
WTF... She is an idol, i understand what you mean by all this but think that at least she debuted, a bunch of girls and boys go to training over 3/4/5 years and still dont debut or debut in a poor company with no network at all......
@@NerdChannelBrasil ok but don't forget that bbc is a very rich company, the entire predebut project costed around 9 million dollars while the usual cost is way less (for example twice's debut costed around 400k dollars)
also hyunjin! she shined in pre debut but not that much after, i can imagine another sub unit with haseul (same case as hyunjin) and hyunjin with someone else maybe, even though they do get more attention than yeojin, gowon and vivi (saying this as a jinsoul biased
so.... post-debut haseul was absent from two comebacks and yeojin, gowon and vivi STILL had less lines than her. and then once everything is calculated, it always seems to be haseul, vivi, yeojin and gowon at the bottom. im honestly fucking sick of this.
I wouldn't be sad if this was balanced but we all know is not: Heejin, Kim Lip, Chuu and Yves get both lines and killer choreo parts. The only rapper from predebut that still get rap parts is Jinsoul. And most girls get lil to none center part. For a group with "no positions" BBC certainly knows how to fuck it up.
Well, you certanly dont saw the performance.... A GG of 12 member where there the very good vocalists, the good vocalists and the standard vocalists, so yeah, the line distribuition will not be "fair". Yeojin still raps, GoWon still raps, Olivia is a rapper now.
@@NerdChannelBrasil Yeojin and Olivia weren't rappers in the predebut (my comment was specific about them) and Gowon barely got rap parts on So What and specially Why Not despite both songs being heavy on it. I mean the whole point of my comment is that the line distribution doesn't need to be a perfect division as long as other factors like choreo balance it out so I really don't get what you're about cause doesn't feel like you disagree.
@@sonereveluvonce1292 not because of her lines, but also because of her mistreatment she gets ignored pretty often on variety shows, orbits hating on her because shes foreign, vivis fancams are the most sleeped fancams of loona, hello82 deleting all the answers of vivi in loonas portuguese game bc her answers are all wrong, and alot more
so it makes sense for yeojin to be last due to lack of subunit (i'm mad about it but i guess it makes sense for total distribution). yyxy being low makes sense because they didn't have a repackage (only hyejoo and gowon are low but you get what i mean). YET haseul was absent for two comebacks and is ahead of hyunjin and vivi?? like i get that she's main vocal and she is actually my bias but she gets paid dust which just goes to show how little hyunjin and vivi get.
love kim lip. if she wasn’t in the group it would ruin the group’s harmonies and vocal colors. kim lip is like jessica in snsd, she keeps the group alive in vocal color and sound.
Chuu , kim lip, and heejin brawling for 1st Vivi , gowon , yeojin playing the floor is lava (If you didn’t get it basically the 3 of them are mostly always jumping on and off 12th)
Personally, I don’t care as much about lone distribution as most people since I know it is not plausible to get equal distributions and certain voices will sound better at certain parts, but I do think it’s unfair for those who have put their life into this industry to not even get a taste of what they’ve worked so hard for. I think BBC needs to either make room for lines and uphold their “no set positions” mindset by letting certain members shine in other songs OR (but would prefer it to be AND) utilize subunits. they already have subunits from predebut, and they could make more. it would be a great gimmick.
You know it's true but you hate seeing some of your faves sit near or at the bottom. Hard to even up distribution when you let the lead singers ad lib so much haha... That eats up more time than you think.
i really hate the fact vivi left her home country, her family, her friends, and learned this new language just to say "yeah yeah" or be the echo of the other members in songs? i cant believe she left all of that behind to be treated like this. poor girl.
it's very clear bbc has their favourites. i understand giving the popular members major lines in the title track to get attention but they could have made it fairer. also the bsides too have such shitty line distribution. don't even get me started on screen time and solo promotions.
i think it’s ridiculous that bbc says that loona has no official positions when it’s very obvious that they are biased bc the same members (hyunjin, vivi, gowon, haseul, and yeojin) are stuck at the bottom of the line distribution. yeojin and hyunjin got lines in the tt this time but it makes me angry that it took 4 comebacks for them to finally get a good amt of lines. and at this point bbc doesn’t care about vivi or gowon bc they continuously get snubbed every comeback, they don’t go to the studio just to sing dumb adlibs. i’m so tired of this.
Looking at the graph by the end it is still a wonder to me how Haseul ended up with just 0.7s in Hi High. Like did she accidentally spilled the studio master’s coffee? Kicked someone important’s puppy? Broke equipment? Like what was the reason 😭
the fact that haseul was absent for 2 albums (not counting oh yes i am and DDD), yeojin and gowon BARELY have more than haseul, and then you got vivi who IS STILL DEAD LAST!!!?? what kind of diSgUStAnG fuckery is this, BBC/producers??? edit: i’m looking at the numbers at 2:02
Haseul deserve as much as Chuu, Heejin and Kim Lip omggg, she is definitely top 3 best singers even before she was on hiatus, she got so little compared to another vocal lines
@@sdcssd1088 im not really talking about the overall line distribution, even when she's joining them, she still got much lesser than the other vocalists when she is easily the 2nd best singer in the group
I hate that we usually see and hear only Chuu, Heejin, Kim lip, JinSoul, and Yves. I just think that it's not fair to them because members that we usually see used to be hard all the time while the other almost doesn't have anything to do even dance in the center when their line coming. I hate you BBC😡😡
I didn't understand the final outcome is the order of who has more lines and haseul came 2nd? I'm surprised! But can someone explain it better to me? Thanks
2:35 the fact that this top & bottom 6 order is vvv content is just really sad Edit: 6:10 And even after the predebut the same Ppl stay on the top and bottom 6 :/
Apologies for Kim Lip's bar during Chaotic! It was a mistake but doesn't change her overall total.
Kim Lip In Chaotic : *GAS GAS GAS GAS GAS*
oh well that's good
haseul who was absent for two comebacks still had more lines than vivi what
Yeah, sad.
That is, *_sad._*
……..maybe bc haseul is a main vocal?
@@serendiclipses6851 they barely even give main vocalists lines tho, like high notes and stuff.
unbelievable
It's Kim Lip yeeting herself to the top during Chaotic for me :D
HAHAHAAHAHAHA PLS
Was it a glitch
@@gisellie25 yes
Time Stamp?
@@sublimegames5790 4:37
the fact vivi doesn't have more lines in total than Chuu post debut... Like Vivi has a whole two solo songs, a subunit and the carol and still can't pass Chuu who didnt have her solo debut or subunit yet???
it’s so sad
I mean Chuu had her solo but I get what u mean. Yyxy was payed dust
@@jackson.624 no, they meant before Chuu's solo or YYXY was counted, Vivi still had less lines than Chuu
@@sokumachi729 OHHHH I get it now thanks!
she's not korean so she's likely to get the lease speaking of opportunity
BBC saying there are no official positions but it's obvious who they prefer. In new MV you could barely even see Vivi at this point she will most likely stay one of the most underrated members till the end of their career.
Yeojin have a lot of parts this comeback, lets wait.
gowon and vivi get consistently treated like they’re not in the group it’s so annoying
1) Who they prefer = who is better*
2) Gowon exists, also her didn't had any line and especially during the part with her + vivi, the lead voice was vivi's, so at the end of the day gowon hadn't lines, bah
And I wonder why some people think only vivi hasn't
@@grace7406 but vivi and Gowon luckily they get famous for a lot of memes and if bbc can’t give them lines they at least have some popularity in funny moments
@Stan Kpop but they should be popular for their talents not memes. bbc sucks at managing vivi and gowon
it just makes me sad that vivi had a whole modelling career in hong kong and was even getting acting gigs but she left it all behind to come to a foreign country and learn a whole new language. she hasn't seen her friends and family in such a long time all to become part of loona and she gets treated like this. I can't even imagine what it would be like to have given up so much to be given so little in return. her best friend from hong kong was even posting on instagram about unfair it is that vivi barely gets anything.
Omg can you send the link of the post that her friend from Hong kong posted about barely getting lines??
@@peachmilf8175 it was on her ig story so it's gone now but someone on twitter got a screenshot with translation twitter.com/vivisatanic/status/1409667430608035847?s=19
@@lovesickmermaid7114 thank u so much!! Happy pride bestiee!🌈✨✨✨
WTF... She is an idol, i understand what you mean by all this but think that at least she debuted, a bunch of girls and boys go to training over 3/4/5 years and still dont debut or debut in a poor company with no network at all......
@@NerdChannelBrasil ok but don't forget that bbc is a very rich company, the entire predebut project costed around 9 million dollars while the usual cost is way less (for example twice's debut costed around 400k dollars)
Yeah Yeojin , Gowon and Vivi need anither subunit. And new solos. Like even with cocomong, they still need it. And i say this as a hyunjin biased
Omg imagine what that would do to the lore. Everyone would go fucking crazy 😂
Why is this a hyunjin biased??
@@ZA-fd1fc it's not... *I* am Hyunjin biased lol. She's my bias
@@pancakepancake2239 ahhhhhhhh lol same
also hyunjin! she shined in pre debut but not that much after, i can imagine another sub unit with haseul (same case as hyunjin) and hyunjin with someone else maybe, even though they do get more attention than yeojin, gowon and vivi (saying this as a jinsoul biased
The word "sub-unit" is created
Loona : let's exploit it then
just hope they would exploit it more post debut :/
*bbc
3:38 so satisfying
Yes!
I love seeing her finally rise for once 😭
Queen rally passed hyejoo, choerry, and lippie on beat tho 💀
kim lip's bar during chaotic is.... chaotic
Kim Lip be like at chaotic : now it's my time to shine, i have never been 1st
so.... post-debut haseul was absent from two comebacks and yeojin, gowon and vivi STILL had less lines than her. and then once everything is calculated, it always seems to be haseul, vivi, yeojin and gowon at the bottom. im honestly fucking sick of this.
justice for yeojin vivi gowon...
I wouldn't be sad if this was balanced but we all know is not: Heejin, Kim Lip, Chuu and Yves get both lines and killer choreo parts. The only rapper from predebut that still get rap parts is Jinsoul. And most girls get lil to none center part.
For a group with "no positions" BBC certainly knows how to fuck it up.
Well, you certanly dont saw the performance....
A GG of 12 member where there the very good vocalists, the good vocalists and the standard vocalists, so yeah, the line distribuition will not be "fair". Yeojin still raps, GoWon still raps, Olivia is a rapper now.
@@NerdChannelBrasil Yeojin and Olivia weren't rappers in the predebut (my comment was specific about them) and Gowon barely got rap parts on So What and specially Why Not despite both songs being heavy on it. I mean the whole point of my comment is that the line distribution doesn't need to be a perfect division as long as other factors like choreo balance it out so I really don't get what you're about cause doesn't feel like you disagree.
LOL CHAOTIC WAS SO FUNNY
I won't even be shocked if Vivi leaves the group earlier than expected.
Because of her lines? 🤔 Really?
@@sonereveluvonce1292 not because of her lines, but also because of her mistreatment
she gets ignored pretty often on variety shows, orbits hating on her because shes foreign, vivis fancams are the most sleeped fancams of loona, hello82 deleting all the answers of vivi in loonas portuguese game bc her answers are all wrong, and alot more
@@sonereveluvonce1292 YOU SEE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS
so it makes sense for yeojin to be last due to lack of subunit (i'm mad about it but i guess it makes sense for total distribution). yyxy being low makes sense because they didn't have a repackage (only hyejoo and gowon are low but you get what i mean). YET haseul was absent for two comebacks and is ahead of hyunjin and vivi?? like i get that she's main vocal and she is actually my bias but she gets paid dust which just goes to show how little hyunjin and vivi get.
love kim lip. if she wasn’t in the group it would ruin the group’s harmonies and vocal colors. kim lip is like jessica in snsd, she keeps the group alive in vocal color and sound.
louder 🗣🗣🗣
YEEEES!
absolutely agree tbh
Since Soo Man is managing Loona I've been saying that, Kim Lip look like Taeyeon and sound like Jessica, Sooman see that on her
@@Gabz98_ yes i agree because to me chuulip do a lot of harmonies together just like taengsic in snsd and luna and krystal in f(x).
the sad thing is gowon shined A LOT predebut but she still comes second to last in total because bbc acts like she doesn’t exist in the group anymore
she did pretty good during ++ and xx it's Jaden Jeong's fault for leaving ;@
HyeJoo, HyunJin, HaSeul, YeoJin, Go Won, and ViVi being slept on.
Literally seeing ViVi BARELY pass Go Won in Love&Live is truly heartbreaking ;(
Its Chaotic Kim Lip 🤣🤣🤣
The members a the bottom, when their solo comes up: *HERE I COME KICK IN THE DOOR*
kim lip in chaotic: do you wanna see the real speed?
Ooh
Make it happen to you
Make it happen to you
(LOONA-UNIVERSE)
As someone who does these things I think i know what happened at 4:36 He put something like 1400/5 instead of 1400.5 and then put 1400.5 again
damn that was some detailed graphs, but you should begin with heejin"s vivid and follow by according to the other song release date
i still think yeojin deserves another solo or smth like... she's BARELY getting a good amount of lines and she wasn't even in a sub-unit!!
it's yves and chuu growing side by side during girl' talk for me
What happened with Kim lip at chaotic????!;!;&;&;&;
PLS 😭
Kim Lip in chaotic just said:cHaoTiC mY hEArt IS oFF tIMe
guess you could say kim lip went chaotic with her bar
being a gowon stan hurts 😢
5:24 Yves and Chuu during Girl's Talk is just wholesome
😂😂😂
the fac that a member who was gone for 1.5 eras (haseul is my bias this is no hate) still has more lines than other members boggles me
WHAT HAPPENED TO KIM LIP AT CHAOTIC??!!
she just get a little Chaotic then =]]
She said:chaotic my heart is off time
I’m in absolute awe that Vivi has more lines than Olivia. I would’ve never thought that. Also when are they gonna out Yeojin in a subunit :/
Chuu , kim lip, and heejin brawling for 1st
Vivi , gowon , yeojin playing the floor is lava
(If you didn’t get it basically the 3 of them are mostly always jumping on and off 12th)
The last total thing looks like my math homework...
THIS STILL IS MORE LOGICAL
4:37 kim lip giving me a scare:
Personally, I don’t care as much about lone distribution as most people since I know it is not plausible to get equal distributions and certain voices will sound better at certain parts, but I do think it’s unfair for those who have put their life into this industry to not even get a taste of what they’ve worked so hard for. I think BBC needs to either make room for lines and uphold their “no set positions” mindset by letting certain members shine in other songs OR (but would prefer it to be AND) utilize subunits. they already have subunits from predebut, and they could make more. it would be a great gimmick.
All these comments about ViVi and I'm wondering why people aren't defending and fighting for YeoJin and Go Won too...
kim lip main vocal exactlyyyy
4:37 Kim lip is out of the universe
Very good Inforgraphic! (infromative) ^w^
You know it's true but you hate seeing some of your faves sit near or at the bottom. Hard to even up distribution when you let the lead singers ad lib so much haha... That eats up more time than you think.
6:57 why it shows that Haseul was #11 in OOPS! and Day&Night? It's wrong
Even during eras when Haseul wasn’t there, Vivi couldn’t pass her. She deserves better
3:36 I'm crying 😭😭😭
jinsoul on the graph is a roller coaster
I have no idea why I keep coming back to these loona line distribution videos, they're just as tragic each time
Gowon and Vivi biases are so tired
not haseul having more lines than 3 whole members post-debut after being afk for like 2 comebacks i-??? bbc answer quickly???!!!
i really hate the fact vivi left her home country, her family, her friends, and learned this new language just to say "yeah yeah" or be the echo of the other members in songs? i cant believe she left all of that behind to be treated like this. poor girl.
1:18 vivi doesn't have lines in ding ding dong :(
Tengo que decir que cuando empezaron a contar a 1/3 dije inmediatamente "Vamos ViVi, tú puedes!!!"
For the Next comeback, includes Not Friends and Yum yum units songs please UwU
1:02-1:17
HyunJin said "I am NOT on the bottom"
We need to see a VIVI, GOWON, YEOJIN AND HYUNJIN SUB UNIT. A CHARISMATIC SUB UNIT.
stan loossemble‼️‼️‼️
bbc cannot manage to be fair in group songs but at least girls are together again
I love seeing Haseul's bar move again
chuu being #1 1 minute and 28 seconds in ♥️😫
Kimlip line predebut - why not 1340.7
And kimlip predebut- ptt only 1360
Its wrong
I think in my other video I may have miscounted Eclipse, so I fixed that
4:38 what did the kim lip bar 😭😭😭
why am i not surprised to see vivi, go won and yeojin at the bottom
it's very clear bbc has their favourites. i understand giving the popular members major lines in the title track to get attention but they could have made it fairer. also the bsides too have such shitty line distribution. don't even get me started on screen time and solo promotions.
Loona's songs has a bunch of adlibs and that
makes a difference in the end, because just 5 or 6 member do that.
Não acredito q a haseul ficou fora de dois álbuns e ainda sim tem mais linhas q três membros
i think it’s ridiculous that bbc says that loona has no official positions when it’s very obvious that they are biased bc the same members (hyunjin, vivi, gowon, haseul, and yeojin) are stuck at the bottom of the line distribution. yeojin and hyunjin got lines in the tt this time but it makes me angry that it took 4 comebacks for them to finally get a good amt of lines. and at this point bbc doesn’t care about vivi or gowon bc they continuously get snubbed every comeback, they don’t go to the studio just to sing dumb adlibs. i’m so tired of this.
Looking at the graph by the end it is still a wonder to me how Haseul ended up with just 0.7s in Hi High. Like did she accidentally spilled the studio master’s coffee? Kicked someone important’s puppy? Broke equipment? Like what was the reason 😭
Music 1 Hi High
Music 2 Favorite
Music 3 Stylish
Music 4 Heat (9)
Music 5 Perfect Love
Music 6 So What
Music 7 Number 1
Music 8
Chaoticのキムリプ伸びやばい 笑
the way chuu approach yves to sing girl's talk together 🙄🙄
Loona's lines be like;
Heejin - Jupiter
Hyunjin - mercury
Haseul - mars
Yeojin - mercury
Jinsoul - Saturn
Cheory - Neptune
Kim lip - Saturn
Eve - Saturn
Chuu - Saturn
Olivia - Neptune
Gowon and vivi : The great *VOID*
the fact that haseul was absent for 2 albums (not counting oh yes i am and DDD), yeojin and gowon BARELY have more than haseul, and then you got vivi who IS STILL DEAD LAST!!!?? what kind of diSgUStAnG fuckery is this, BBC/producers???
edit: i’m looking at the numbers at 2:02
Hi Loona
Haseul deserve as much as Chuu, Heejin and Kim Lip omggg, she is definitely top 3 best singers even before she was on hiatus, she got so little compared to another vocal lines
She only has less lines bc she was absent for two albums
@@sdcssd1088 im not really talking about the overall line distribution, even when she's joining them, she still got much lesser than the other vocalists when she is easily the 2nd best singer in the group
@Loona Dungeon true but what can we expect from bbc
3:38 💗✨🌈👑💖😻🥳
yeojin on pre-debut just said: i'm gonna release my solo and sing with someone on my album then see you on ot12 debut :>
I just spilled my drink🤣when Kim Lip Yeeted
Vivi in starlight: i’m about to pass haseul
Haseul soming back in ptt: sorry vivi you may not
Man this kinda hurt
Kimlip's line in chaotic is chaotic
I hate that we usually see and hear only Chuu, Heejin, Kim lip, JinSoul, and Yves. I just think that it's not fair to them because members that we usually see used to be hard all the time while the other almost doesn't have anything to do even dance in the center when their line coming. I hate you BBC😡😡
In Star:
Vivi: Yes! I’m going to beat hasuel and not be last!
Hasuel: no you’re not bishhh
That fact that Yeojin isn’t even in a sub-unit….. wtf BBC
she was supposed to be a member of 1/3 but didn’t make it bc she failed her finals at school lmao
@@alittletata oh really?
@@K-Popfolife Yeah haha now it seems fun but back then everyone was worried
@@alittletata that is not true 🙄
@@alittletata Thats she was failing School is actually not true.
Well I mean ofc OEC get more singing lines in their unit cuz they only split it between three ppl
vivi
yeojin 💔
kim lip : I am go yeeeeeettttttt
Kim Lip, a lead vocalist who has more lines than a main vocalist 👁️👄👁️ 💀
She’s not the only one who has more lines than a main vocal 💀? hyunjin, hyejoo, choerry, yves, jinsoul, heejin?
@@arimamira how does hyejoo and hyunjin have beaten a main vocal? they clearly didn't, look at the results again
@@arimamira also if your talking about vivi, gowon, and yeojin neither of them are main vocal
@@arimamira 3rd kim lip is a lead vocalist and get the most lines among all of them
4:38
😂😂😂WTF kim lip
I look away for 5 seconds and I see Hyunjin isn't in the bottom anymore. It's actually shocking that she had less lines than Vivi until # era
haseul mylabs
why does literally nobody talk about yeojins mistreatment?? 😕
I didn't understand the final outcome is the order of who has more lines and haseul came 2nd? I'm surprised! But can someone explain it better to me? Thanks
She’s not, the title of the song is written above the graph which is U R and for that specific song she was 2nd
well, the fact that Vivi has lines almost as much as Olivia in her entire career is kinda comforting
2:35 the fact that this top & bottom 6 order is vvv content is just really sad
Edit:
6:10 And even after the predebut the same Ppl stay on the top and bottom 6 :/
tbh the order is fine except Haseul should get more. Let’s not forget the top 6 are all vocal line and SHOULD be ahead (ofc not too far)
@@arimamira exactly!
Wait why is kim lip’s line still the same from your predubut - why not video? Its just 15s more than that video
Yeojin vs Hyewon vs Momo :v
That only said the song after debut vivi‘s part were too limited