"Days Like These" - 13 Week Theatre
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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A new season starts with "Days Like These," the failed attempt to bring "That 70's Show" to the UK.
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Glad to have 13 Week Theatre back! Love this series.
Never knew about this show. Your breakdown of the theme song choice was hilarious - a top "what were they thinking" moment. Thanks for posting!
that opening sequence looks like something out of public access.
There was no way this was going to work as it was written. However, if they broke the 4th wall and revealed the cardboard and duct tape sets for what they were and the fact that the theme song was wildly out of place, they might have been able to salvage it in a "It's the Garry Shandling Show" sort of way.
The only authentic UK 70’s on this show is the picture quality.
I think the one thing you probably wouldn't get from it not being from the UK is just how it's such a shot for shot remake of the original show that it is way too american but they are british and it creates and uncanny weirdness to it.
No british teenagers are like that. No british garage is that big or used like that. It just rings so weirdly untrue from the dialogue to the conceit of the episode.
Mom, can we have That 70s Show?
Mom: No, we have That 70s Show at home.
That 70s Show at home:
This makes That 80s Show look good and I liked that because the 80s are my favorite.
“The Goldbergs” is what “That 80s Show” wanted to be.
I'm happy you're back, Pab.
Thank you for your time and efforts in your videos! They're wonderful. Much appreciated!
Glad you're back! I really love your content and always look forward to your new season of episodes!
Thanks so much for another informative and funny episode!
So, this was basically Coupling in reverse 🤔?
Or all those Fawlty Towers attempts
UK Kid: Mum! Can we stop and get That '70s Show??
UK Mum: NO! We have That '70s Show at home!
That '70s Show at home:
Exactly!
I was just about to say that
I believe the US version of "The Office" hewed very closely to the British original, and it just didn't work. Fortunately, the show was given time to chart its own, uniquely American, course.
A UK version of "That '70s Show" *could* have worked in theory, but a shot-for-shot remake was doomed to fail. It reminds me of when they first tried to bring Peppa Pig to the US with the voices dubbed by American voice actors. (Yes, this actually happened, though the network - Nickelodeon, I think - worked overtime to scrub all traces of it from RUclips.)
This is the problem with shows that are remade across the pond. The cultural differences won't translate well . That's why in order for a crossover to work ,it must conform to the cultural norms in the new country.
Norman Lear understood this in the 1970s when he refitted shows like Steptoe And Son and Till Death Do Us Part( Sanford And Son , All In The Family) to be themed around American culture
There was another failed British sitcom adaptation between The Brighton Belles and Days Like These: Married for Life. I won't insult anyone by telling them what long-running American sitcom it was adapted from.
I shutter to think of what a British Al Bundy would be like
The failure of Married for Life forced ITV in a Neighbours style resurrection to bring back The Upper Hand, despite the fact the show had drawn to a natural conclusion a year earlier by having the characters married like the original Who's The Boss? it was based on.
So that series of The Upper Hand followed the characters in married life.
There was also Loved By You, with John Gordon Sinclair and Trevyn McDowell in the Paul Reiser and Helen Hunt roles, giving you a clue to what American sitcom it was based on.
The first series was aired in primetime, but failed to find an audience.
A 2nd series was commissioned, but was put on Tuesday nights at 7.30pm, putting it into competition with the then mega popular EastEnders, and Loved By You stood no chance there.
@Andrew Barton I was never a fan of the original Mad About You. I knew it wasn't a bad show, it just wasn't my cup of tea.
@@imrustyokay A British Al Bundy could have been *amazing* if they'd done it right.
I am so so so happy your show is back! Welcome back Pab & 13 Week Theater! This really is one of my favorite RUclips programs!
It feels like regional theatre production 😢.
It was made by ITV. It was guaranteed to be appalling. In the early 90s for some inexplicable reason they attempted to remake The Golden Girls as the "Brighton Belles". It was pulled after 6 episodes.
Carlton was no Thames in my opinion and I'm a American who was born in 1986. Saddened to say Carlton killed ITV as individual regions
Carlton also created The Brighton Belles...but that's another story.
@@Quartzquiz333 Didn't help the original Golden Girls series was still being shown when Brighton Belles debuted.
The remaining episodes of BB were flung out a year later on Wednesday nights at 7pm (previously the show aired at 8.30pm on Tuesday nights before it was yanked) and even then some ITV regions declined to air them.
Thames was given a mention in one of the episodes of The Simpsons. (The one where Homer donates to PBS, and Betty White guest stars).
Carlton has never had that honour.
Next month will mark 30 years since Carlton killed Thames.
Damn Thatcher's government and the independent television committee to hell!
@@edbateyjr.517 December 31 is the 30th anniversary of the last night of Thames Television
Great to have you back!
It seems weird to have a show set in the 70's with a song from 80's group as their theme was made in 90's.
Makes no flippin' sense!
I’ve never heard of this show and the only cast member i recognized was James Carlton (later PC Steve Crane on Heartbeat0.
4:16 are you having My Mother The Car flashbacks 😳😂?
One of the few times when an American show was adapted for British television
kids???? the entire cast looks like they are pushing 30
this would be like making a uk version of happy days
the young ones and this is england both captured the realities of uk youth culture in the 70s and 80s
and then you had skins....which mtv attempted to adapt and failed
there was a great uk series where they took a family from the 2000s and had them live for a week in the uk of the 60s,70s, 80s and 90s.....and boy, each decade was totally different than what we experienced in the states
I said in the chat that the obviously older actors made this look like bad community theater. I was told that it was an insult to community theater.
Great Channel 🎉
Ref the Sunday move, it seemed to slightly do better there than on Friday.
ITV handed the Friday night slot Days Like These had to a Carol Vorderman home improvement show called Better Homes. Embarrassingly for the Days Like These team, Carol Vorderman was more popular than their show. ITV then replaced Vorderman with Days Like These and the viewers went down until they took it off for that 3 month hiatus and new timeslot.
They were doomed the moment they replaced Big Star with Asia.....🎶
Thanks!
Thank YOU!
This show is another example of why Thames Television is better remembered than the company that replaced them.
And, in some roundabout way, you can blame the British Armed Forces for that one, since the Death on the Rock documentary was the spark that lit the powder keg that was the Broadcast Act of 1990.
If controversial programmes about Northern Ireland get TV stations taken off air, then Granada would have been axed because of its docudrama about the Birmingham Six. However it was not. That is a flaw in your argument.
Those wigs the guys are wearing. YIKES!
The really weird thing is ITV made a different, actually good, 70s period sitcom in The Grimleys as well in 1999.
Yes… from Granada, who had known a thing about making television.
The Grimleys was much better
Thanks for pointing out the reign of terror that was Carlton.
A reign that still continues since they effectively now own half of ITV.
By the way the mother was mainly known for her Philadelphia cheese adverts.
Dude, did Asia make a "packet" from them using their Tuneage 🎸 ❓
Only Time Will Tell. It was all in the Heat of the Moment after all.
I remember the hype for this on Granada (ITV in the North West of England for our American friends). The sad thing was… it looked terrible in the trailers. I only watched the first half of the first episode.
Fellow Brits… does anyone else remember Richard Herring taking the mick out of it on TMWRNJ?
Yes he did I was just thinking that
Nice to see you back! Hope the end music you usually use comes back, it was awesome!
Yeah. It was left out by accident. I didn’t realize until it aired.
🙂 it’s such a part of your great videos, that when it’s gone, you really notice it! 😂 Merry Christmas Pab
Welcome back!
I thought it was named after a Van Morrison song.
Why couldn't they have written an original opening theme song too?
Ray Purchase!
Hey thanks for the video I hope you can do the future episodes of the series like covering Bosom Buddies, The Gregory Hines Show and also Once a hero (1987) and if you are ready small wonder
Small Wonder ran for four seasons and 96 episodes.
@@PabSungenis yeah,I know even though small wonder is now considered by most media as the worse show and is mocked as an internet meme.
Very few British shows when re-written for American audiences worked out either. They tend to do better when shown in their original form
What would've been pretty cool was a show set in the British 70s, but not based on anything American, but rather, real British 70s. Finding humor in a difficult time. Or even a drama to reflect that time.
The thing is the the british adaption of who's the boss, the upper hand did a very similar tactic ie same scripts..but some how got away with it and was a mild success despite the US version being shown here. I've watched a few episodes of days like these and love how terrible and cringeworthy it was. I will say the casting of june Whitfield as the uk equivalent of the grandmother character when in the original she was played by the mum from happy days was a good move although i think her hair colour changes inexplicably in the two episodes shes in.
However, what happened to the cast & crew of Days Like These 💭 🙋 ❓
Well Rosie Marcel did well for herself acting wise (her sister Kelly is a writer and director) and Harry Peacock went on to Toast of London.
Prior to Days Like These, Ann Bryson had been known for Philadelphia cheese commercials with Sara Crowe.
Ann Bryson and Sara Crowe not long after the ads both starred in an ITV sitcom called Sometime Never that lasted just one series and don't think is fondly remembered. Certainly it has never been repeated.
@@andrewbarton2590 Thank you.
Channel 5 in the UK later ran the original.
Yep, they did.
The original contract Carsey Werner Mandabach had with ITV\Carlton had a clause stipulating that That 70's Show wasn't to air originally on British TV so no comparisons could be made.
When Days Like These flopped, Carsey Werner Mandabach and ITV\Carlton rescinded the clause, hence why That 70's Show was sold to Channel 5.
Due who player the "Eric" bears a striking resemblance to Emma Stone.
american producers: "cultural context, what's that?"
I remember watching this as a kid and it was bad,nice to know we ruin adaptations too lol.😊
The original version of That 70s Show was shown in Germany and it was very popular. So no, "adapting" it in foreign markets definitely wasn't necessary. Has there ever even been a foreign remake of a show that was successful?
“All in the Family.” “Three’s Company.” “Dear John.” “Sanford and Son.”
"Too Close for Comfort" and, of course, "The Office" were successful British imports to America.
For an example of a successful comedy that the British adapted from America, look no further than "The Upper Hand", based on "Who's the Boss?" It ran for 7 series and was just about as successful as the American show.
@@DavidTSmith-jn5bs Four seasons and just under 100 episodes? Not too bad, IMHO.
@@DavidTSmith-jn5bs I can agree with you there. I always thought it was just O.K., nothing spectacular.
A *lot* of reality shows and game shows have been successfully adapted from Britain to the US, and vice versa.
Welcome back
Not to sound political but 1970s Britain is potentially looking like 2020s America right now.
Fez Jackie Eric Kelso Donna Hyde Red Kittie Laurie midge Bob great characters
To think this nonsense was written by the same duo who wrote Peep Show.
The Ooblongs
The music does not fit at all! They should have tried some Zeppelin!
Zep are notorious for being reluctant to license out their music. And if they did it would have cost the show most of its budget.....😅
Interesting but please avoid Brit tv. Most shows are only 13 weeks or less.
True, but this (like Curry and Chips) died before they could fulfill their order.
@@PabSungenis There was the American version of Cracker, which flopped so badly ABC yanked the show with 5 episodes yet to air.
If you followed the UK version, you'll recognise who the American characters were based on.
Robert Pastorelli's was based on Robbie Coltrane, Angela Featherstone's on Geraldine Somerville, Carolyn McCormick and Josh Hartnett were based on Barbara Flynn and Kieran O'Brien's characters, Robert Wisdom's character I believe was based on the Lorcan Cranitch character, and R Lee Ermey's was based on Christopher Eccleston.
(In one of the unaired episodes, Ermey leaves except his character survives unlike Eccleston's -(did ABC baulk at it)?. Ermey is replaced with Josh Lucas as Monroe Macy, the character based on Ricky Tomlinson's Charlie Wise).
That 70s Show was already pretty banal and awful in its own right. I can’t imagine how terrible this Britcom knock off truly was.
This is as awful as when they tried to make an American version of The Young Ones.
I feel like I knew about this at the time. I was going to say why would the Brits love the 70s? It was so bad it produced punk! Maybe a show about the 80s, but that was Thatcher times! Not much better. Maybe brits can't feel nostalgic like we do in North America!? They've never had good times to look back on? It makes for great music tho!
Had That 70's Show been set in 1971-1974 instead of 1976-1979, it would have had a very different feel because of the Vietnam War and Nixon. Imagine Hyde having to cross the Wisconsin border into Canada to escape the draft when he turned 18.
@@raywallacefan7786 that would be more HBO territory and still good on a different level! I wish Americans would explore this shameful past instead!
@@gaywizard2000 Had That 70's Show done so, it might have veered into All in the Family territory, with Red Foreman as Archie Bunker and Hyde as Meathead. Norman Lear-style sitcoms were popular in the 1970s, but would a similar approach have worked in the early 2000's?
@@raywallacefan7786 That's actually a good point. Maybe the British version of "That '70s Show" could have worked if they'd set it in the *early* seventies.
Either that or make the UK version darker and really lean in to the social and political upheaval of the late seventies. One of the kids becomes a punk, dad is constantly on strike from his job at the British Leyland factory, the friend group constantly argues about who will and won't vote for Thatcher...in the right hands they might have had something.