I love how you put the T4 hoodie costume first on the list, as this is my personal favorite look for Jin in T4. You nailed every aspect on what makes this costume iconic. I just love how stylish and mysterious it makes Jin look.
thanks! yessss, I love it! The look told that story very well, especially when you look at the cover art for the game and the character development then. Great design!!
I must say I am in love with your video editing! The small electronic noises as smaller aspects of the design are zoomed in on is a neat touch I'd never even think of, kinda reminds me of Tekken 4's laboratory stage or the menus from Capcom VS SNK 1 Add-on: The Tekken 4 gi design is 100% my favorite
Wow, Thanks! That’s the first time I’ve heard that in regard to my editing-didn’t think of that! And I love that design; had to do a breakdown on how great it is 😭
Although T3's outfit will always be near and dear to my heart (and the T4 outfit was pure drip) I gotta say that our boy is looking his performing best in T8. He looks great and his fit makes him look like his arc has come full circle.
I loveee the design! I think the achromatic colours suit him and it’s like it continues the ‘fallen angel’ narrative that he has (white/light grey bright colours) and the wings on the jacket. It would’ve been cool if it had the Kazama emblem on the gauntlets, but it’s like a nod to his OG Tekken 3 design. Love it!
Great video man. I agree with everything except the Tekken 8 designs. I think the oni look is probably my 3rd favourite but obviously the flame pants and the tekken 4 fit are unbeatable
Thanks! Yeah, those are iconic designs. Although minimal, they tell a story and that’s what I like about those two. And they’re just cool! I like the oni design-that one was hard to rank!
Well first of all, congrats for having been able to ranked his outfits because I'm trying to think of my own ranking as I'm writing this and I can feel the headache coming 😂 But let's try anyway From my most to least favorite : 1. T4 gi (this look's just perfect for him. I love the duality of the colors, with one side black and the other white, and the open vest) 2. T3 biker outfit (I actually lile the yellow, makes all the details stand out more imo) 3. T4 hoodie (this outfit grew on me, I quite hated it when I first saw it. Tbh I quite hated T4 Jin in general with his new moveset and all lol) 4. T3 school uniform (I love this outfit too much to not mention it. It suits him so well and I like how young it makes him look. Like the kid he still pretty much was) 5. T8 biker look (Not much to say about it if only that I like how it plays with different shades of black/grey/white, almost like a reflection of his personality. 6. T5 gi (quite the classic look but shirtless, which is always a bonus xD) 7. T7 (I completely agree with you. Those gauntlets are ugly and look more like they're part of Iron Man's armor 😂 I'm usually a fan of leather but here it just doesn't work. It looks weird and the hood makes it even worse 😫)
I still don’t know how I did this ranking- it was hard hahah Thanks for the ranking! Yeah, his T7 fit was… certainly a choice. IDK what they were going for with that one 🥴 The karate gi is so iconic- and I think I’m biased about both Tekken 4 looks ‘cause that game is one of my favs in regards to character design and telling a story. I low-key miss his T3 move set-I was able to do one of his 10 hit combos, oh well😭 And Jin’s T5 look, I like that too; a bit of eye candy there, ya know? 😆 Again, this was just hard ‘cause he’s mostly had good designs… and one of my fav characters.
Greetings Fragmented Pixels. Thank You So Much For The Detailed Video About Jin’s Outfits, And For Me You’re The First One Who Talked About It. My Favourite Of All Time : TEKKEN 5 The White Flame . I Don’t Like His Biker Outfits . Also as Honourable Mention : TEKKEN 5 Devil Within Outfit Is Really Cool In My Opinion.
hello and thanks! yeah, I’d say I’m one the few discussing his designs-crazy(!). I like the Tekken 5 design, too. The flame design never gets old, in my opinion!
I hate itttt, but I can see why you’d like the sleeves on the look. I used to like this outfit when 7 first came out. But… let’s just say I was in the honeymoon phase then. 😆
The Tekken 4 look never fails. We need to see it in Tekken 8. Tekken 4 was my first Tekken game and the looks in that game were beyond stylish. There are looks I really wanna see return as alternate costumes and not just from T4.
Personally, my favourite Jin look was the Tekken 8 one because I thought that it was so well thought of! He's a biker (and I admit that I have a weakness for biker/bad boy looking men, hehe) and the look really shows it with the leather, and that jacket with the devil wings design is FIRE!!! Seriously, I want one for myself! ❤🔥 His Tekken 4 look - absolutely iconic, yes, I couldn't wait to buy it in the Tekken Shop once they announced it. Maybe the blue/purple hues were an attempt to show him trying to separate himself from who he was before (as blue is one of the colors that contrasts the red he was associated with in Tekken 3 for his debut), so I like it even more because of it. AND THE HOODIE IS EVERYTHING FOR JIN! I also love his black and white karate outfit from Tekken 4 because it references the duality of his devil gene and his kind-hearted nature that is the result of his mother's loving upbringing - and also, his ending when he flees Hon Maru and leaves a single white feather on the floor of the temple WHAT A TEASER! In the end - Jin's Tekken 7 outfit was by far the worst - I mean, why the all-leather look directly on top of his naked body, I mean the sweating must be insane! The western style belt and the jacket being tucked in and those over the top gauntlets... I mean come on! xD And somehow I feel like all characters in Tekken 7 looked sort of ugly compared to the other games? I don't know, what do you think? Sorry for the long comment, but I'm super invested! xD
Heheh, long comments are fine by me! Yeah, his Tekken 8 look is great! I agree, and I love how the colour theory and even symbolism tells a bit of a story there. It looks like they intentionally made white and grey the monochromatic colours (among the red accent) to possibly show that evolution of the character. As if he’s going into the lightness. And the wing decal, ofc. But overall I’m glad to see motorbiker Jin again because I think some people forget that he’s into motorbikes and stuff. Pretty cool! I loveeeee his Tekken 4 outfit. Now you mention how they used those colours instead of the usual red that he wears; that’s actually a great point! I didn’t think of that, actually. Definitely adds another layer onto the disassociation with his past life! The gi is also great because it also nods to his Devil gene curse and the references to lightning on the trousers (I believe that’s what those are?) is spot on! I also agree on the colour symbolism, too. His T4 ending is the icing on the cake. LOOOOL, I 100% agree on the Tekken 7 look. It’s soooo bad and just… awkward! It makes more sense seeing that this was a commissioned design from a manga artist (can’t remember the name) that it has this veryyyy anime design. Not to say that Tekken was never anime, but it just looks so off in this game compared to previous instalments. The jacket tucked into the belt was the last straw for me, too! It looks so uncomfortable to wear. 😭
@@fragmentedpixels by the way, when I saw the "USELESS, testosterone-filled and out of character goal" - I AM DECEASED 😂😂😂 The testosterone-filled part literally destroyed me xD Though I have to say - speaking of Jin, when I saw him use the Kazama style that his mother taught him against Kazuya I thought that was SO SEXY. Best. Thing. Ever!
That moment when you realize Kazuya's had new gi pants since Tekken 5. My favorites are The Tekken 4 fit with the shades, the purple tux and The new one from 8. Btw... what'd you think of the Tekken 5 revision of the purple tux and the dark resurrection recolors? New sub btw.
thanks for the sub, welcome! yeah, I think along with Kazuya, some characters didn’t have much outfit changes (especially those from Tekken 3). Huh. Hm, I think it’s cool. I’d say for the purple suit the gauntlets shouldn’t of been there, it just doesn’t work. 😅 The Dark Resurrection alt colour for the gi works well, too.
am sad we never got the jin bike oufit with the black vest and the special bike gloves they are really good, or his tekken movie look is also very fitting for him
the Tekken: Blood Vengeance look and the one in the Tekken 6 BR opening, right? those were some cool designs 😎 Could’ve easily been P3 designs-if there was some demand for them.
Though he has Mishima gauntlets, the overall white and the wings of the Tekken 8 outfit is what is meant to represent his Kazama side - the white in his Tekken 5 gi and both Tekken 4 outfits were mean to represent his Kazama lineage, this light side of purity to him so 8's hearkens back to that. On that though, I like to think that the gold flames were more to represent this kind of 'purification' theme, burning the impurities within oneself, and the purple in his hoodie was to represent an impure blood, his turmoil and self-doubt and self-hatred. There is a lot of allusion to this theme of 'purification' in Tekken 4 and 5, I find. Yes, I do agree that the Tekken 3 design though iconic, was overused past a point where it still has thematic relevance anymore. The nihilistic Tekken 6 Jin dressed like that felt very out of place.
I love your analysis. As much as some may think the outfit belongs in Final Fantasy (hard disagree, lol), his T8 look is his best design in recent years. I do love the flame motif Jin has had, however a change was definitely needed. I also agree and I like how the outfit also references his position as a character and being ‘purified’. The use of greys, blacks, whites and that accent colour of red on the T8 look is a nice colour palette change, same thing with what we saw in Tekken 4 hoodie as Jin isn’t really known for those colours. Works very well! I also like they reference his motorbiker hobby as well, since Jin initially had this youthful energy to him and there’s definitely a scene for that in Japan (note the P2 T3 look). Rambling aside, I just love how those designs you mentioned reflect his Kazama heritage-they really like their monochromatic colours.
@@fragmentedpixels I can't unsee that FF comparison lmao. I think that might have to do with a bit of the visual noisiness with some of the character designs in Tekken 8, probably due to wanting to maximise as much of the detail that is possible due to the higher fidelity which, although results in Jin's and others' otherwise great designs can, again, also make them feel a bit too visually noisy, like there's too much going on. This is a small criticism I've noticed being expressed, making people wish for the simplicity of older designs. That aside, to expand a bit on the white motif for Kazama lineage, I wanted to add that the monochromatic, black vs white designs for Jin during that PS2 era was clearly meant to represent his general duality and inner conflict. By contrast, the grays in his T8 may represent an acceptance of that duality. If you're curious about how this may tie to Tekken 4's themes and story, I recommend checking out Gizou Gitai's essay of the game. Besides baberuthless (obviously), your channel reminds me quite a bit of his. Huh. I actually never thought of his T4 hoodie being a reference to him being into motorcycles like other designs. The whole tracksuit thing going on made me think of it more as something he wears when he's training, like when he has to go outside for a jog or something, since he was learning an entirely new fighting style and all (being Kyokushin, even the choice to flee to Australia may have been a reference to them housing a prolific Kyokushin dojo during those days) Yes, there was that youthfulness to Jin back in Tekken 3 that matched his much brighter red, energetic design. Hell, I'd even say this is evident in the difference between Chiba Isshin's voice performances of him in Tekken 3 versus onwards.
Come to think of it… I see what they mean with the visual noise 😭 Yeah, that aspect of Jin’s character design is definitely a callback to the duality/yin-yang element seen with the Kazama clan (as seen with his Tekken 4 gi) and then to see that acceptance (and similar colours) brings it full circle. There’s also that duality when it comes to both the Kazama and Mishima clans as well. Actually, in regard to the motorbiker flair we have in T8, I was actually referring to his Tekken 3 player 2 motorbiker outfit-not the Tekken 4 hoodie. However, the T4 hoodie would look really cool if he were to drive in it; it wouldn’t be as practical but it would add in that cool factor. But yeah, his T4 hoodie was his outfit of rebellion, in a way since he wanted no affiliation with his other family (and just having all that PTSD, smh). Then when add all of those events, that definitely reflected the vocal direction has has since then. How Isshin Chiba does it-I’ll never know. Hm, I’ll check out those videos.
@@fragmentedpixels Ohhh my bad on misunderstanding. Yeah I can see how his new design calls back to his old biker outfit. Been binging your videos for a bit today so I'll check that collab out. Your channel is quite refreshing. It's nice to see someone talk about aspects of fighting games and games in general, especially those of yore, in terms of things related to art direction, character designs, music, atmosphere and the like - things that on the whole, add to the experience and are just as important as gameplay, or rather, are interlinked with it - which aren't as appreciated by fans much. I feel like content on fighting games emphasises the competitive side a bit too much. I feel like the emphasis on competitive-minded play, though draws attention to basic elements which should be standardised (crossplay, balance, better online, good training modes, etc.), neglects a lot of what actually makes these games fun and impactful. Things like story, themes/narrative, single-player, the aforementioned and even aspects of the core gameplay mechanics as a game in general, in-depth, outside of the competitive space (which I only see talked about by Gizou Gitai and The Electric Underground right now) are just as important and what actually makes these games memorable and worth replaying even when sequels come out and the playerbase diminishes. So, it's pretty awesome and exciting seeing a channel like yours that sheds light on and is enthusiastic about that. Also, your analysis on win quotes and outros had me thinking you were actually studying Japanese lol. Even as someone who's studying it myself, your work is quite impressive.
Thanks so much, I’m glad you find my videos intriguing and insightful. The reason I even created the channel was to discuss those creative elements that are often not talked about when it comes to video games (and as a creative outlet as well). Merging pop culture, music, games and the like: I just thought: why not? I love all those things. There’s also a gap there, as you mentioned. I agree. I’ve always played games for fun and I'm an absolute causal, but I’ve always been into the artsy side of them anyway since there are so many layers that go into it. With fighting games, I think there’s that element of hostility about casual players by some… but funnily enough, that is most of the audience of these games, lol. I'm uninterested in that immaturity from some, though. Thanks again! It does seem that way, but I am familiar with Japanese media. I’d say I’m only OK with phonetically pronouncing the language. I made some embarrassing errors on the Devil Jin one, but I’m definitely improving in doing these character quotes videos-I realised very quickly that it’s not always a 1 person effort! 😅
my personal favourite is P1 Tekken 5. im hugely biased because thats the first outfit that i played but something in it gives me serenity. i think it is because of tekken 5 clean graphics i dont quite get that feeling from tekken 4 one
T4 is and would always be my favorite tekken game I'm not saying I hate the rest I love every tekken but if I ever had only one to choose and live with it forever it woulda been tekken 4 for sure
it’s understandable why it got polarising reception. sure there could’ve been more characters, there was unbalanced gameplay mechanics and there could’ve been better replay value-but from a character design and visual (and musical!) standpoint, it’s a great game! despite its flaws, I love it.
Heihachi was at his peak in combat with tekken 3&4 and he has always been my main. I play 3&4 more than 5 and 6. One reason is because it's the only game in the series that let's u move around so freely in every direction
@@fragmentedpixels In Tekken 7, they tried to reference the second costume in the first Tekken Tag Torunament, but he looks weird in it, especially his shoes. They overcomplicated his costume too much. In Tekken 6, his costume isn't creative in any way, but what's worse, his shirt under the dark coat doesn't quite match the whole. It was supposed to be a bit like Kazuya, his dark side, but it didn't quite work out. In Tekken 5, his costume is a worse version of Tekken 3 (fire on his pants) and Tekken 4 (colors) costumes, but it doesn't look as cool (in the game itself, not marketing illustrations) as in the above-mentioned games, no one made sure that one of the most important characters shoud get an interesting custume at all. All in all, the Tekken 3 and 4 costumes were too good to top it so far. Although in Tekken 8 his basic costumes looks really cool.
ohhhh, got it. Yeah, I feel the same way about those designs. Though I partially agree on some of your points in regards to Tekken 5 design and think his T5 look is cool (well, the render does), but even so you could start of see the design fatigue there. his looks in T6 and T7? Yeah… we don’t talk about those 😭 (I like the trenchcoat though). you’d think that with him being the main character, they’d try to at least update his designs then. But, I’m glad that in T8 we finally see that-and they look good!
Tekken 4 Jin is peak design, IMO! Yeah, Steve’s look in 8 is just… not it 😭 and LOOOOL not a stripper coat 😭🤣🤣🤣 never heard of Jin’s T7 look referred to as that! I had to laugh, hahaha!
Tekken 4 & Tekken 5 have the best jin kazama design (talking about the hoodies and the white gi and gloves. Tekken 6 have the worst because it’s going too safe.
Those two are definitely my top 5 designs from him! Tekken 6 Jin was… interesting. The trenchcoat is great, but… it’s an uninspired look overall. He also looked odd in-game. 😭
@@fragmentedpixels the funny part is tekken 6 was so lazy they didn’t even put jin normal gi on devil jin. The flames on devil jin pants are all red unlike normal tekken 3 & 6 jin.
the oni look may grow on me, but it’s a good design! but if we’re talking about the gis/trousers and gauntlet combination, his T4 karate gi look is better in my opinion. T3 is the best.
ohhhhh, my bad! I agree with that philosophy, but for me, it’s just “OK”-it does what it has to do. And… I guess I’m not really into 6 to be honest. The trenchcoat is great, but overall the design is ‘eh’. But, these are my opinions. 😅
@@loligerpoper5998haha, tell me about it 😭 his Tekken 3 P2 (motorbiker outfit) gauntlets would’ve been a better starting point for them from a design perspective, in my opinion. They could’ve reinvented those ones for this design.
after being agree with you all the way i truly didn't get how did you choose that flame bottom AND flame top design as the best lol. how about flame hat too?
a flame hat would go crazy, can’t lie LOL but in all seriousness, I like the overall look 😆 and I’m kind of biased, ‘cause T4 was my first game and I think the look works. It’s very 2000s, but I love it!
Since we’re waiting for Tekken 8, who should I rank next? 👀
king
bryan
Kazuya
Nina Williams! 😍
I love how you put the T4 hoodie costume first on the list, as this is my personal favorite look for Jin in T4. You nailed every aspect on what makes this costume iconic. I just love how stylish and mysterious it makes Jin look.
thanks! yessss, I love it! The look told that story very well, especially when you look at the cover art for the game and the character development then. Great design!!
Tekken 4 all day.
despite its flaws, I love it! The character design in that game was great, too.
To me, Jin Kazama’s Tekken 4 hoodie, 3 Debut look, and his Motorbiker look from Tekken 8 are my favorites.
Those are some cool designs!
I must say I am in love with your video editing! The small electronic noises as smaller aspects of the design are zoomed in on is a neat touch I'd never even think of, kinda reminds me of Tekken 4's laboratory stage or the menus from Capcom VS SNK 1
Add-on: The Tekken 4 gi design is 100% my favorite
Wow, Thanks! That’s the first time I’ve heard that in regard to my editing-didn’t think of that!
And I love that design; had to do a breakdown on how great it is 😭
You gotta do more Tekken content ngl, this is pretty good
thanks! I do have some Tekken content planned, love this game.
I love the effort and details put in your vids, gonna love seeing this channel grow
Thanks, I appreciate that! I always like to inform to the best of my ability. 😊
most of the guys in Tekken are such eye candies, man
I agree 😌
Yay I like how you describe the costumes, I never get tired of the flames, they look good.
yessss, I love them!
Although T3's outfit will always be near and dear to my heart (and the T4 outfit was pure drip) I gotta say that our boy is looking his performing best in T8. He looks great and his fit makes him look like his arc has come full circle.
I loveee the design! I think the achromatic colours suit him and it’s like it continues the ‘fallen angel’ narrative that he has (white/light grey bright colours) and the wings on the jacket.
It would’ve been cool if it had the Kazama emblem on the gauntlets, but it’s like a nod to his OG Tekken 3 design. Love it!
Imo
1. Jin 's hoodie ( tk8 )
2. Jin 's hoodie ( tk4)
3 jin 's hoodie ( tk7)
4 oni look (tk8)
5 motor bike look ( tk 3)
6 karate hi
7 tekken 5 look
8 tekken 6 look
thanks for the ranking! I love his Tekken 8 design.
Love the editing on your video. Love to see sumthing different
thanks!
Great video man. I agree with everything except the Tekken 8 designs. I think the oni look is probably my 3rd favourite but obviously the flame pants and the tekken 4 fit are unbeatable
Thanks! Yeah, those are iconic designs. Although minimal, they tell a story and that’s what I like about those two. And they’re just cool! I like the oni design-that one was hard to rank!
@@fragmentedpixels You seem really knowledgeable on this kind of topic and I gotta respect it. Keep making videos I just subscribed
@@dylbillyythanks for the sub, welcome! and I’ll certainly keep making videos 🙂
I’m a bit of a nerd when it comes to this kind of stuff, haha
That Tekken 4 gi is GOATed! 🔥
It is!
Well first of all, congrats for having been able to ranked his outfits because I'm trying to think of my own ranking as I'm writing this and I can feel the headache coming 😂 But let's try anyway
From my most to least favorite :
1. T4 gi (this look's just perfect for him. I love the duality of the colors, with one side black and the other white, and the open vest)
2. T3 biker outfit (I actually lile the yellow, makes all the details stand out more imo)
3. T4 hoodie (this outfit grew on me, I quite hated it when I first saw it. Tbh I quite hated T4 Jin in general with his new moveset and all lol)
4. T3 school uniform (I love this outfit too much to not mention it. It suits him so well and I like how young it makes him look. Like the kid he still pretty much was)
5. T8 biker look (Not much to say about it if only that I like how it plays with different shades of black/grey/white, almost like a reflection of his personality.
6. T5 gi (quite the classic look but shirtless, which is always a bonus xD)
7. T7 (I completely agree with you. Those gauntlets are ugly and look more like they're part of Iron Man's armor 😂 I'm usually a fan of leather but here it just doesn't work. It looks weird and the hood makes it even worse 😫)
I still don’t know how I did this ranking- it was hard hahah
Thanks for the ranking!
Yeah, his T7 fit was… certainly a choice. IDK what they were going for with that one 🥴
The karate gi is so iconic- and I think I’m biased about both Tekken 4 looks ‘cause that game is one of my favs in regards to character design and telling a story. I low-key miss his T3 move set-I was able to do one of his 10 hit combos, oh well😭
And Jin’s T5 look, I like that too; a bit of eye candy there, ya know? 😆
Again, this was just hard ‘cause he’s mostly had good designs… and one of my fav characters.
Greetings Fragmented Pixels.
Thank You So Much For The Detailed Video About Jin’s Outfits, And For Me You’re The First One Who Talked About It.
My Favourite Of All Time : TEKKEN 5 The White Flame .
I Don’t Like His Biker Outfits .
Also as Honourable Mention : TEKKEN 5 Devil Within Outfit Is Really Cool In My Opinion.
hello and thanks! yeah, I’d say I’m one the few discussing his designs-crazy(!).
I like the Tekken 5 design, too. The flame design never gets old, in my opinion!
I feel like I’m one of the few people who actually really likes his T7 design. Mainly because of the armored sleeves.
I hate itttt, but I can see why you’d like the sleeves on the look.
I used to like this outfit when 7 first came out. But… let’s just say I was in the honeymoon phase then. 😆
The Tekken 4 look never fails. We need to see it in Tekken 8. Tekken 4 was my first Tekken game and the looks in that game were beyond stylish. There are looks I really wanna see return as alternate costumes and not just from T4.
I agree. It’s such a classic design. Hope they can bring it back for the third time!
Personally, my favourite Jin look was the Tekken 8 one because I thought that it was so well thought of! He's a biker (and I admit that I have a weakness for biker/bad boy looking men, hehe) and the look really shows it with the leather, and that jacket with the devil wings design is FIRE!!! Seriously, I want one for myself! ❤🔥
His Tekken 4 look - absolutely iconic, yes, I couldn't wait to buy it in the Tekken Shop once they announced it. Maybe the blue/purple hues were an attempt to show him trying to separate himself from who he was before (as blue is one of the colors that contrasts the red he was associated with in Tekken 3 for his debut), so I like it even more because of it. AND THE HOODIE IS EVERYTHING FOR JIN!
I also love his black and white karate outfit from Tekken 4 because it references the duality of his devil gene and his kind-hearted nature that is the result of his mother's loving upbringing - and also, his ending when he flees Hon Maru and leaves a single white feather on the floor of the temple WHAT A TEASER!
In the end - Jin's Tekken 7 outfit was by far the worst - I mean, why the all-leather look directly on top of his naked body, I mean the sweating must be insane! The western style belt and the jacket being tucked in and those over the top gauntlets... I mean come on! xD And somehow I feel like all characters in Tekken 7 looked sort of ugly compared to the other games? I don't know, what do you think?
Sorry for the long comment, but I'm super invested! xD
Heheh, long comments are fine by me!
Yeah, his Tekken 8 look is great! I agree, and I love how the colour theory and even symbolism tells a bit of a story there. It looks like they intentionally made white and grey the monochromatic colours (among the red accent) to possibly show that evolution of the character. As if he’s going into the lightness. And the wing decal, ofc. But overall I’m glad to see motorbiker Jin again because I think some people forget that he’s into motorbikes and stuff. Pretty cool!
I loveeeee his Tekken 4 outfit. Now you mention how they used those colours instead of the usual red that he wears; that’s actually a great point! I didn’t think of that, actually. Definitely adds another layer onto the disassociation with his past life! The gi is also great because it also nods to his Devil gene curse and the references to lightning on the trousers (I believe that’s what those are?) is spot on! I also agree on the colour symbolism, too. His T4 ending is the icing on the cake.
LOOOOL, I 100% agree on the Tekken 7 look. It’s soooo bad and just… awkward! It makes more sense seeing that this was a commissioned design from a manga artist (can’t remember the name) that it has this veryyyy anime design. Not to say that Tekken was never anime, but it just looks so off in this game compared to previous instalments. The jacket tucked into the belt was the last straw for me, too! It looks so uncomfortable to wear. 😭
@@fragmentedpixels by the way, when I saw the "USELESS, testosterone-filled and out of character goal" - I AM DECEASED 😂😂😂 The testosterone-filled part literally destroyed me xD
Though I have to say - speaking of Jin, when I saw him use the Kazama style that his mother taught him against Kazuya I thought that was SO SEXY. Best. Thing. Ever!
I think you’re the first comment to notice that! 🤣
I actually forgot I wrote that in the video until you pointed it out, hahaha! 🤭
Great video!
thank you! 🙂
The new tekken 8 motorbiker outfit is crazy but i think my all time favourite is going to be his oni one
I agree! Maybe the oni outfit might grow on me, but it’s great nonetheless
@@fragmentedpixelshe look like Anos Voldigoad
That moment when you realize Kazuya's had new gi pants since Tekken 5.
My favorites are The Tekken 4 fit with the shades, the purple tux and The new one from 8.
Btw... what'd you think of the Tekken 5 revision of the purple tux and the dark resurrection recolors? New sub btw.
thanks for the sub, welcome! yeah, I think along with Kazuya, some characters didn’t have much outfit changes (especially those from Tekken 3). Huh.
Hm, I think it’s cool. I’d say for the purple suit the gauntlets shouldn’t of been there, it just doesn’t work. 😅 The Dark Resurrection alt colour for the gi works well, too.
I like T4 and T8 the most. T8 gives me Rock Howard vibes
am sad we never got the jin bike oufit with the black vest and the special bike gloves they are really good, or his tekken movie look is also very fitting for him
the Tekken: Blood Vengeance look and the one in the Tekken 6 BR opening, right? those were some cool designs 😎
Could’ve easily been P3 designs-if there was some demand for them.
@@fragmentedpixels the tekken 6 BR opening outfit is accualy in tekken 7 story mode ending too
oh yeah, it is… didn’t notice that, actually
Can't wait to see where tekken 4 Jin ranks
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@@fragmentedpixels well I meant the other tekken 4 Jin with the black and white😅 cause he's my favourite
Though he has Mishima gauntlets, the overall white and the wings of the Tekken 8 outfit is what is meant to represent his Kazama side - the white in his Tekken 5 gi and both Tekken 4 outfits were mean to represent his Kazama lineage, this light side of purity to him so 8's hearkens back to that.
On that though, I like to think that the gold flames were more to represent this kind of 'purification' theme, burning the impurities within oneself, and the purple in his hoodie was to represent an impure blood, his turmoil and self-doubt and self-hatred. There is a lot of allusion to this theme of 'purification' in Tekken 4 and 5, I find.
Yes, I do agree that the Tekken 3 design though iconic, was overused past a point where it still has thematic relevance anymore. The nihilistic Tekken 6 Jin dressed like that felt very out of place.
I love your analysis. As much as some may think the outfit belongs in Final Fantasy (hard disagree, lol), his T8 look is his best design in recent years. I do love the flame motif Jin has had, however a change was definitely needed.
I also agree and I like how the outfit also references his position as a character and being ‘purified’. The use of greys, blacks, whites and that accent colour of red on the T8 look is a nice colour palette change, same thing with what we saw in Tekken 4 hoodie as Jin isn’t really known for those colours. Works very
well! I also like they reference his motorbiker hobby as well, since Jin initially had this youthful energy to him and there’s definitely a scene for that in Japan (note the P2 T3 look).
Rambling aside, I just love how those designs you mentioned reflect his Kazama heritage-they really like their monochromatic colours.
@@fragmentedpixels I can't unsee that FF comparison lmao. I think that might have to do with a bit of the visual noisiness with some of the character designs in Tekken 8, probably due to wanting to maximise as much of the detail that is possible due to the higher fidelity which, although results in Jin's and others' otherwise great designs can, again, also make them feel a bit too visually noisy, like there's too much going on. This is a small criticism I've noticed being expressed, making people wish for the simplicity of older designs.
That aside, to expand a bit on the white motif for Kazama lineage, I wanted to add that the monochromatic, black vs white designs for Jin during that PS2 era was clearly meant to represent his general duality and inner conflict.
By contrast, the grays in his T8 may represent an acceptance of that duality.
If you're curious about how this may tie to Tekken 4's themes and story, I recommend checking out Gizou Gitai's essay of the game. Besides baberuthless (obviously), your channel reminds me quite a bit of his.
Huh. I actually never thought of his T4 hoodie being a reference to him being into motorcycles like other designs. The whole tracksuit thing going on made me think of it more as something he wears when he's training, like when he has to go outside for a jog or something, since he was learning an entirely new fighting style and all (being Kyokushin, even the choice to flee to Australia may have been a reference to them housing a prolific Kyokushin dojo during those days)
Yes, there was that youthfulness to Jin back in Tekken 3 that matched his much brighter red, energetic design. Hell, I'd even say this is evident in the difference between Chiba Isshin's voice performances of him in Tekken 3 versus onwards.
Come to think of it… I see what they mean with the visual noise 😭
Yeah, that aspect of Jin’s character design is definitely a callback to the duality/yin-yang element seen with the Kazama clan (as seen with his Tekken 4 gi) and then to see that acceptance (and similar colours) brings it full circle. There’s also that duality when it comes to both the Kazama and Mishima clans as well.
Actually, in regard to the motorbiker flair we have in T8, I was actually referring to his Tekken 3 player 2 motorbiker outfit-not the Tekken 4 hoodie. However, the T4 hoodie would look really cool if he were to drive in it; it wouldn’t be as practical but it would add in that cool factor. But yeah, his T4 hoodie was his outfit of rebellion, in a way since he wanted no affiliation with his other family (and just having all that PTSD, smh).
Then when add all of those events, that definitely reflected the vocal direction has has since then. How Isshin Chiba does it-I’ll never know.
Hm, I’ll check out those videos.
@@fragmentedpixels Ohhh my bad on misunderstanding. Yeah I can see how his new design calls back to his old biker outfit.
Been binging your videos for a bit today so I'll check that collab out. Your channel is quite refreshing. It's nice to see someone talk about aspects of fighting games and games in general, especially those of yore, in terms of things related to art direction, character designs, music, atmosphere and the like - things that on the whole, add to the experience and are just as important as gameplay, or rather, are interlinked with it - which aren't as appreciated by fans much.
I feel like content on fighting games emphasises the competitive side a bit too much. I feel like the emphasis on competitive-minded play, though draws attention to basic elements which should be standardised (crossplay, balance, better online, good training modes, etc.), neglects a lot of what actually makes these games fun and impactful.
Things like story, themes/narrative, single-player, the aforementioned and even aspects of the core gameplay mechanics as a game in general, in-depth, outside of the competitive space (which I only see talked about by Gizou Gitai and The Electric Underground right now) are just as important and what actually makes these games memorable and worth replaying even when sequels come out and the playerbase diminishes.
So, it's pretty awesome and exciting seeing a channel like yours that sheds light on and is enthusiastic about that.
Also, your analysis on win quotes and outros had me thinking you were actually studying Japanese lol. Even as someone who's studying it myself, your work is quite impressive.
Thanks so much, I’m glad you find my videos intriguing and insightful. The reason I even created the channel was to discuss those creative elements that are often not talked about when it comes to video games (and as a creative outlet as well). Merging pop culture, music, games and the like: I just thought: why not? I love all those things. There’s also a gap there, as you mentioned.
I agree. I’ve always played games for fun and I'm an absolute causal, but I’ve always been into the artsy side of them anyway since there are so many layers that go into it. With fighting games, I think there’s that element of hostility about casual players by some… but funnily enough, that is most of the audience of these games, lol. I'm uninterested in that immaturity from some, though.
Thanks again! It does seem that way, but I am familiar with Japanese media. I’d say I’m only OK with phonetically pronouncing the language. I made some embarrassing errors on the Devil Jin one, but I’m definitely improving in doing these character quotes videos-I realised very quickly that it’s not always a 1 person effort! 😅
Awesome vid
thanks
np @@fragmentedpixels
Both player 1 and 2 outfits from tekken 4. It's my personal favorite.
I love those designs, so much so that I had to give a mini-breakdown!
I'm Jin Kazama's younger sister
my personal favourite is P1 Tekken 5. im hugely biased because thats the first outfit that i played but something in it gives me serenity. i think it is because of tekken 5 clean graphics i dont quite get that feeling from tekken 4 one
Ah, I see. I like the look, too! but I am biased when it comes to the hoodie ‘cause I started with Tekken 4-and it was just so different. I love it!
T4 is and would always be my favorite tekken game I'm not saying I hate the rest I love every tekken but if I ever had only one to choose and live with it forever it woulda been tekken 4 for sure
it’s understandable why it got polarising reception. sure there could’ve been more characters, there was unbalanced gameplay mechanics and there could’ve been better replay value-but from a character design and visual (and musical!) standpoint, it’s a great game! despite its flaws, I love it.
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Heihachi was at his peak in combat with tekken 3&4 and he has always been my main. I play 3&4 more than 5 and 6. One reason is because it's the only game in the series that let's u move around so freely in every direction
@@kennyg.6608 🤝 fr broo t3 literally was my first tekken and tekken 4 is its greater version 😎 noice king 👑 ✊️
I dig the character models in 4 much more than 5 even if the stage design graphics were a little better in 5
The HOOD 👌
It’s iconic!
hell yeah, Tekken 4 Jin is the GOAT!
truly! nothing else will top that, IMO.
tekken 4 design is the best for Jin.. especially the hoodie..
agreed
T3 flame pants, because it's the closest to t5 devil jin, just without the chains and claws
yeah, it’s one of my favourite looks! I always found it funny how Devil Jin wears those trousers as well but in a different style. 😆
@@fragmentedpixels it seems that in tekken 8 and tekken manga, those chains are not just for fashion.
Five hundred views on a pretty good video is crazy
now it’s at 1K 👀
1.4
2.6 (player 2)
3.5 / 6 (player 1) /tag 2
4.3
5.8
6.7
thanks for the ranking! his t4 design is one of the best ones.
3 motorbike underated yesssss
Hey what about the;
Tekken Tag 1, Dark Resurrection & 6 flame pants
Tag 1's was blue.
Those were repeats outfits (and there’s not much change in design), so I didn’t include them on the list.
1. Tekken 4 iconic hoodie
2. Tekken 3 basic outfit
3. Tekken 3 motorbike outfit
4. Tekken 8 first trailer outfit
5. Tekken 8 motorbike outfit
4. Tekken 4 Karate ki outfit
I don't like T5, T6 and T7 costumes at all.
thanks for the ranking! Yeah, I’m not a fan of those costumes either, bar the T5 one.
just curious, what don’t you like about that design?
@@fragmentedpixels In Tekken 7, they tried to reference the second costume in the first Tekken Tag Torunament, but he looks weird in it, especially his shoes. They overcomplicated his costume too much.
In Tekken 6, his costume isn't creative in any way, but what's worse, his shirt under the dark coat doesn't quite match the whole. It was supposed to be a bit like Kazuya, his dark side, but it didn't quite work out.
In Tekken 5, his costume is a worse version of Tekken 3 (fire on his pants) and Tekken 4 (colors) costumes, but it doesn't look as cool (in the game itself, not marketing illustrations) as in the above-mentioned games, no one made sure that one of the most important characters shoud get an interesting custume at all.
All in all, the Tekken 3 and 4 costumes were too good to top it so far. Although in Tekken 8 his basic costumes looks really cool.
ohhhh, got it.
Yeah, I feel the same way about those designs. Though I partially agree on some of your points in regards to Tekken 5 design and think his T5 look is cool (well, the render does), but even so you could start of see the design fatigue there.
his looks in T6 and T7? Yeah… we don’t talk about those 😭 (I like the trenchcoat though).
you’d think that with him being the main character, they’d try to at least update his designs then. But, I’m glad that in T8 we finally see that-and they look good!
It should be Tekken 8's Motorbike look as the top spot..
Where's p3 tekken 6 ourfit😢
the emperor one, right? yeah I didn’t rank that ‘cause it’s an extra outfit-I’m more so focused on the P1 and P2 ones
@@fragmentedpixelsits one of my favourites and i wish we see that in 8!
I like it though, it’s quite camp!
Totallly agree. Tekken 4 outfit was top.
Also Tekken 7 design was bad for me, because of the stripper coat. Same reason T8 Steve design is bad for me
Tekken 4 Jin is peak design, IMO! Yeah, Steve’s look in 8 is just… not it 😭
and LOOOOL not a stripper coat 😭🤣🤣🤣
never heard of Jin’s T7 look referred to as that! I had to laugh, hahaha!
@@fragmentedpixels 😂😂😂
TT2 Was The Best Looking Jin In My Opinion . I Mean Everyone In That Game Looked Like Models😂😂❤
As much as I like how he looks in 8, the amount of definition the devs put into the character models then were (and still are) impressive!
Tekken 4 & Tekken 5 have the best jin kazama design (talking about the hoodies and the white gi and gloves.
Tekken 6 have the worst because it’s going too safe.
Those two are definitely my top 5 designs from him!
Tekken 6 Jin was… interesting. The trenchcoat is great, but… it’s an uninspired look overall. He also looked odd in-game. 😭
@@fragmentedpixels the funny part is tekken 6 was so lazy they didn’t even put jin normal gi on devil jin. The flames on devil jin pants are all red unlike normal tekken 3 & 6 jin.
cool video
thanks
i'd swtich 8 with 3, honestly 3 isn't that good, 100% agree with the rest
whaaaa? #3 is iconic (if you’re referring to the Tekken 4 gi design?)!
but in all seriousness-to each its own 🙂
@@fragmentedpixels it is iconic, Is it good? No lol
You tripping. 6 should be higher
the oni look may grow on me, but it’s a good design! but if we’re talking about the gis/trousers and gauntlet combination, his T4 karate gi look is better in my opinion. T3 is the best.
@@fragmentedpixels I’m talking about his tekken 6 business man suit. Less is more sometimes. But the tekken 4 gi should be number 1.
ohhhhh, my bad! I agree with that philosophy, but for me, it’s just “OK”-it does what it has to do. And… I guess I’m not really into 6 to be honest. The trenchcoat is great, but overall the design is ‘eh’.
But, these are my opinions. 😅
3, 4 and 5 that's all, rest are mid.
especially his look in Tekken 4. I don’t think that can ever be topped.
Tekken 7 outfit is clearly the worst, his thin tight pants just makes it cringe.
LOOOOL yeah. 100%!🤣
And the spikes on the shoulder are over the top
@@loligerpoper5998haha, tell me about it 😭
his Tekken 3 P2 (motorbiker outfit) gauntlets would’ve been a better starting point for them from a design perspective, in my opinion. They could’ve reinvented those ones for this design.
@@fragmentedpixels yeah or keeping it simple like his outfit in the br revolution intro from tekken 6
Tekken 4 CGI Render hits hard ngl.
it goes crazy. that brooding look he has? insane. I love the way Namco did their CGs back then.
after being agree with you all the way i truly didn't get how did you choose that flame bottom AND flame top design as the best lol. how about flame hat too?
a flame hat would go crazy, can’t lie LOL
but in all seriousness, I like the overall look 😆
and I’m kind of biased, ‘cause T4 was my first game and I think the look works. It’s very 2000s, but I love it!