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When I bought my first street bike it was from a friend. He hadn’t had it for long and took it apart to paint it a different color. When he didn’t like the color he chose he decided to sell the bike. He didn’t even put it back together so I bought it in pieces. I purchased a manual and got to work putting it back together. So many bolts and other hardware had gone missing. It took many trips to the local shop to get the specific hardware needed but in a few weeks it was back together. I was 17 years old and the proud owner of a 1987 Kawasaki ZL1000. It was a fantastic bike and still remains one of my favorite bikes I ever owned. There are many ways to get into riding. Buying new, used or sometimes basket case. I didn’t have much money so I chose basket case and it was a great experience. I learned a lot about my motorcycle while putting it back together. With the internet it should be easier to do today. When you hit the start button the first time and hear the engine come to life, it’s a fantastic feeling
I like my Transalp but maybe next summer I will spend some $$$ to get a real suspension on it. I was so happy when I figured out how easy it is to do an oil and filter change without removing anything. Not even the Hepco and Becker skid plate. I got the Alpinestars Toucan boots which I wanted to sleep in once I 1st wore them. There was only the list price last December here in Canada for the Transalp. No discounts anywhere I could find. Paying cash does not matter to dealers for bike and autos here. I never finance a depreciating item which is something I learned from very wealthy people. At the selling dealership I do get a discount always on all parts, clothes and accessories going forward which is kind of standard I find.
The gear is a huge tip and so correct. I bought a bike and had hoped my old, 15+ year old gear that’s been in storage would suffice… not at all. $1200+ later I’m at what I’d call a decent level of protection for my use needs. Boots are paramount! Side note, man did prices of quality gear go up in 15 years!
Recently bought my first bike after a 12 year hiatus from riding. First bike bought from a dealership either way though. My advice is to BE PATIENT. You don't NEED the bike right now. I know it's exciting and all you want to do is ride, but if you just wait for a good deal to come along, it will. Wait til winter when the dealers are itching to offload their summer inventories. Killer deals are out there if you're willing to hold out and look for them.
When I was shopping for my first bike, before I was comfortable with the balance of a bike, I was always very nervous sitting or standing on a bike in the showroom on a kickstand. Most bikes aren't going to tip if you sit or even stand on them while on the kickstand. Getting a feel for the bike with your feet on the pegs is important.
Good tips! I plan on buying a first real bike (as it stands right now CRF300L, KLX300, KLR650, DR650 are the top contenders). But I'm not rushing. I'm actually scouting trails and areas I want to ride in my area. I've also started buying riding gear. Where I live there is really not a lot of public unpaved roads. Luckily I found an OHV park 30 minutes away from my house. Once I feel I'm ready I'll take the riding course for the license and probably buy the bike that same week while the training is fresh. One of my biggest obstacles is deciding if I should ride to the OHV park or transport the bike with my Truck. Getting ramps and learning how to load the bike is a little scary though. But so is riding in traffic (while I'm still learning the bike at least).
Another pretty useful video Ben !!! ... The test ride - yes - 100% agree - VERY important. I came to Honda dealership, with a full intention TO BUY the NT1100 ( I just woke up one day, and decided - I WANT THAT bike ). Then, the salesman himself, asked if I wanted to test ride the bike.... I didn't see the reason for doing it, but took it for a spin, anyway.... Long story short - I did not buy that bike - not for me ! And unless he asked me to try that bike - I would be selling it the next week .... More than that - it's nearly impossible to evaluate the bike from a single 30-60 min test-ride. If the dealer can't let the bike go for several hours, at once - I'd recommend to try the bike in several times - if possible different dealers.
As a retired Army veteran when I got my Multistrada V4S, the dealer program had a $750 gear allowance, granted I had my gear already, but there was some stuff I needed as well which was great for me when I lived in the PNW and needed a nice set of wet weather gear and got a premium Revvit zip up rain suit, winter gloves, boots etc. Not all.do that, but was a perk of getting a Duc considering how much $$ you're already spending 😂
I've had that pump for about 4-6 months and can honestly say that you are going to be really happy with your purchase. It's so easy to set a pressure and just let it go. Much faster than anything I've carried before - not super small, but very light. Keep it charged and make sure the nozzle is always plugged into the unit. When the nozzle is out, the unit is on and this will drain the battery. Good luck on your cross-country trip! Will you post it on RUclips?
I recently got a bike and it became boring really fast I could pass cars making some slow maneuvers and felt that it’s just not for me even though I love the style and the bike looks amazing it was just not enough for me to really enjoy and I am a slow driver it got to 60-65 and struggled and got hot really fast around the my leg near the exhaust. So yeah really important to know what’s your preferred style and get a bike that suits you❤
I've had my 2024 ktm 1290 sar for over a month now, and the insurance price was a big reason for getting it. Only 57 bucks a month for full coverage, and it can put you in trouble in a hurry.
Man, I miss the old massive sportbike group rides we used to do back in the day. It was nice because once the group got to know you, you'd be able to swap bikes mid ride and check a lot of different bikes out. I got to ride friends FZR's, R1's, RC51's, GSX-Rs, Honda Hawks...all kinds of fun bikes. Made it pretty easy to figure out what bike you wanted next. The ADV bike crew doesn't seem as interested in swapping bikes, but probably for a good reason since tip-overs are way more likely and rough terrain is easier to handle on a bike you know. Still...I miss swapping bikes to get to try new ones out. So I guess tip 8 is to join a large crew of riders that likes to swap bikes if you wanna try out different rides.
If ya can't test ride it,walk away.bought a sportster used,no miles guy would only let me ride it in a parking lot.was able to hit 4th gear,but ahh you can guess where this is going.yep had to replace gears and bearings. That 5 grand bike price was really 7. All great advice.nice vid.
@@davidshaffer4649 not a single dealership in Michigan will let you test ride a new bike. I've been told it's impossible to get Michigan insurance that allows test rides. I was able to test ride used bikes.
Two things. I prefer to negotiate in person. People know they have a real chance to sell you a bike if you’re standing right in front of them. Also they know you’re not going to post their offer on the internet. They’re less likely to give you a good price if there’s a chance the next customer is going to want the same deal. Also the dealer makes money on the finance deal,so you’re going to pay more if you have your own financing. Personally I’ve never financed a bike deal. It’s a toy and if you need to finance it, you can’t afford it - thats just me though
I would like to add to his checklist, do a lot of research on HOW the bikes behave. I didn't ride dirtbikes as a kid, or a teenager, I had a total of like 100km on my dad's crf235R. I was very very green going into getting a bike. So I wanted something that most people agreed was near impossible to wheelie, and was torquey. Basically a tractor. I got exactly that bike, a Kawasaki KLR 650 Adventure, 2024, just rolled over 800km, it had 2km on it when I bought it. It was cheap, basic maintenance is easy, it won't try to flip upside down if I accidentally drop the clutch on it too quick because I panicked. My next bike will likely be a Husqy FE501, because I want something with quite a bit more punch that I can use single track. Light with a lil' bit of oh shit factor. Gonna keep my KLR though. Love that bike. TLDR: Bikes behave wildly different, make sure the one you're looking at is exactly what you want. If you're looking for something to cruise on, sportbikes are horribly uncomfortable for long rides. If you want to offroad, you probably don't want an 800lb harley or indian road yacht. If you want to single track, you shouldn't get a Grom. See what people use it for, the problems, the factory issues. What upgrades there are to solve them.
On my 1st bike here in Florida, I went to the bank and got a personal loan. The motorcycle loan was more percentage versus the personal. So, basically paid cash and even got a better deal on my 2021 suzuki drz400s. Thanks for the video. 👍🏻
Thanks for assembling important points together. Yet another thing to be realized by all new riders: comparing to other countries, here in the US cops will hate you! They'll totally refuse to appreciate all natural advantages (like geometry, maneuverability, power/weight ratio) which a bike provides and will hunt you. Ben, you've ridden to Mexico so you know what I am talking about. After 10 years of riding experience in Europe I am still afraid to ride on the streets and highways here...
Hey Ben, that is awesome being in Canada. I was looking at your sales tax and that is so low imagine buying a bike up in Canada. Thank you for that information.
Sold my bikes, realized motorcycles weren't for me. Yet here I am getting the itch to ride again. Come to find out, I think I had the wrong bikes. Great info.
@@thehumblemerchant7341 I had a 2020 klx250, 2019 Honda crf250l and I started with a 2001 ttr. All were Too " dirt bike" for me. I'm looking at a tw or Himalayan.
Many dealers here have a specific demo bike however they don’t allow learners to use or demo bikes. Depending on the model you want they may expect you to have several years of experience riding bikes. Dealerships often will allow you to purchase new gear firsthand before you get the bike this can be when you get some amazing deals and they know you’re going to buy a bike. You should look at renting over a week end to try the bike. Most importantly if you can go with a wing person to stop you from impulse buying. My mate got himself a big BMW GS his wife was super cranky as it was very expensive he then dropped it and broke his leg was 8 months off work.
Great Advise Dork mister 🙌. Especially the MSF Courses. Gave the exact Advise to a woman considering doing the bike lifestyle. Maybe you'll LOVE ❤️ it,, maybe you won't. Its the minimal investment imho. Have a safe Labor day weekend 🙏🏻.
What's grest about taking a class is you can hopefully choose a school with lots of types of bikes for you to try. The course is mandatory where I live and I had been riding offroad since I was 6 so I went in thinking I was buying an ADV for sure and after trying a 700GS and a KTM 790 I realized it just wasn't for me. The instructor suggested I try the CB650 which at first I was sure I wasn't going to like. Ended up buying it after the class ended at the end of the season.
I've purchased 5 motorcycles. My first bike I had sneakers jeans and a hand-me-down half helmet. Never test rode a single one, only the first bike I saw in person before purchasing. Never was able to attend a MSF. I don't think I've ever checked insurance costs before I got a bike, my last one costing over $8,000 a year (Luckily switched companies to $1,100). Never talked to anyone before buying a bike as I had no one to ask about them. I can't believe I've broken nearly all of these. All great points that many people just get screwed by not following. I'm glad I managed to get lucky every time so far. I have better gear now, of course. But still have never been able to attend a MSF and at this point it is what it is. I may attend an advanced or intermediate class when I'm able.
Great vid, despite looking off to my left (your right) the whole time. A wee bit disconcerting. Might have to grab a fanttik. Looks cool. Assume it's a powerbank too?
I would add one more… do your online homework for dealerships a good ways from your home. I wasn’t willing to fly from virginia to Tennessee to get the absolutely best price, but I was willing to drive into Maryland to save $4500 on my 2018 Goldwing. This is probably not a good idea for new riders, but it was great for me!
You can also get a discount on gear if your dealership/shop is affiliated with the MSF course you take. Buying your helmet someplace that will help you fit it correctly, then taking the MSF course, then buying your gear at such a dealership also lets you benefit from picking the brains of the salespeople there not just about which bike you're interested in, but best gear too.
Rofl. I'm an idiot. You were 5:565:56 talking about your sponsor, which I thought was some kind of monster lock. I was wondering how a padlock would help with a flat. I have the AIRMOTO one and works great.
Maintenance should also be considered, remember there is no such thing as a free puppy. Example: some Ducati desmo engines require timing belt / valve services every 12,000 - 15,000 miles which can be quite costly (not picking on Ducati, just an example)
#9 ….. If you walk into a dealership to look at multiple bikes and are ignored by the sales staff … leave. There are other dealerships that actually have customer service.
#8 - if you walk into a dealership and something doesn’t feel right, they don’t listen to you, they talk down to you…walk! The nicest and most helpful a dealership is going to be is right as you walk in the door. If something doesn’t feel right, 95% of the time it is going to go downhill from there.
1. Impossible to sell or trade. I bought a Suzuki C50 Bolivard. Paid $4,000 for it 3 years ago in Florida... Today I can't give it away... In Florida nobody has money.
Thanks I been riding dirt bike for years but I been saving up for a daul sport bike I'm thinking DRZ 400e next spring and I have been buy gear for daul sport riding
That air pump thing looks good, like the auto off feature. However 23 min run time sounds pretty bad. I'm sure a lot better than seems like sounds. It's not like it takes me half hour to pump up. I have been using a Ryobi air pump. I just check before leave do not take with. Seems like I charge the battery once every couple months.
Test rides? I have never seen a dealer that allows that. Ever. For dealers, some sell financing, not bikes. Be careful. If you can pay cash, get a price first then tell them you will pay the whole amount no financing. I have seen a dealer add 1500$ (on a 10 000 bike!) if I did not take their financing. I walked out the door.
Would love to hear from a motorcycle mechanic regarding the ridiculous fees some places charge for "dealership fees" (my buddy was looking to buy a RE Himi 450, was quoted $2000 CAD on a bike with an MSRP of $7,699 CAD!) - how long does it actually take to uncrate and assemble your average motorcycle to prep it for sale?
All of those dealer fees are B.S. I don't care how long it takes them to assemble it. That is their cost and it should go above the line. Imagine going into a grocery store to buy some bananas for 99 cents a pound, but then you get up to the register and they want to charge you a picking fee, transportation fee, ripening fee, etc.
I bought gloves from Amazon for $25. Jacket was $80. Knee pads were $40. Boots were $90 although I started out on my old military steel toe boots. You don’t need expensive gear just some protection.
@@gregr3576agreed, even cheap gear is better than no gear. Even if it comes apart somewhat during a fall, it will still absorb the worst of the impact and the slide.
I'd recommend some gloves and boots to go along with the helmet. Jacket and pants can be had later on down the road. I find gloves to be just as important as a helmet.
Test ride the bike always. If they don't let you test ride it, don't buy it, unless it is a new bike and you already rode it another like that. Put the money on the table, if they don't let you test ride it, and say: i have the money, if i brake it i buy it, now can i test ride it to see if i like it? Never buy a bike that you never ride it. You must see if you like it.
I never used to have a problem buying new bikes from dealers back in the day Always test rode them first, was able to negotiate a good price and rode away happy. But in the last decade I have noticed that most dealers where I live (SoCal) have stoped offering test rides and have started tacking on exhorbitant markup fees on top of the regular price. Paying MSRP used to be considered a negotiation failure (like in the classic King if the Hill episode.) Today you gotta fight tooth and nail just to pay full price! It's no wonder the motorcycle industry is dying. It's like they are doing everything in their power NOT to sell bikes.
I buy a new 4 wheeler every few years. You can’t find them that haven’t been trashed in my area. I don’t buy from my local dealer, because they are exactly what you think they are, crooks. But I can drive 2hrs to the next state over to a shop that I can trust. And if I want a brand new bike, and I can get less than 4% financing, which the dealer has no control over anyway, I can, and I don’t have to worry about getting bent over because I have an established relationship with this place. No body on RUclips and other platforms believe how much I pay for my new bikes because they pay about a grand or more on everything I buy. You just have to know the bottom dollar a dealer would be willing to take. But I don’t even have to worry about that anymore, because I’ve bought so many from the same place. And I’ll tell my local dealer about that too. But they don’t care.
Gear nazis… the bane of motorcycling. Had multi people pull over off the highway to come tell me I need to be wearing gear over the years. Ride your ride and leave people alone. Been riding 20+ years and working in healthcare for 15 years, I chose to ride in shorts and tshirt. I know what I’m in for, also have personally pulled fancy fiber strands out of the road rash from people that were wearing all the fancy gear.
It doesn't matter how long you ride. Losing all the skin off your arms legs and back is what it is. Peer pressuring people into wearing better gear is one of the few times I'll say that it's a healthy thing in the motorcycle community. Riding in shorts and a t-shirt is setting a bad example to younger riders in my opinion.
@@derek96720 nah, y’all need to get over your holier then thou attitudes about gear. Y’all are as bad as the damn Covid mask nazis. Get over yourself, wear gear if you want I don’t care but leave me alone.
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100% agree on the gear. Don't wait until you crash to find out what gear you need in what places. 😅
Been riding 20+ years, done the whole crashing thing… will continue to ride in shorts and tshirt.
When I bought my first street bike it was from a friend. He hadn’t had it for long and took it apart to paint it a different color. When he didn’t like the color he chose he decided to sell the bike. He didn’t even put it back together so I bought it in pieces. I purchased a manual and got to work putting it back together. So many bolts and other hardware had gone missing. It took many trips to the local shop to get the specific hardware needed but in a few weeks it was back together. I was 17 years old and the proud owner of a 1987 Kawasaki ZL1000. It was a fantastic bike and still remains one of my favorite bikes I ever owned. There are many ways to get into riding. Buying new, used or sometimes basket case. I didn’t have much money so I chose basket case and it was a great experience. I learned a lot about my motorcycle while putting it back together. With the internet it should be easier to do today. When you hit the start button the first time and hear the engine come to life, it’s a fantastic feeling
I like my Transalp but maybe next summer I will spend some $$$ to get a real suspension on it.
I was so happy when I figured out how easy it is to do an oil and filter change without removing anything. Not even the Hepco and Becker skid plate.
I got the Alpinestars Toucan boots which I wanted to sleep in once I 1st wore them.
There was only the list price last December here in Canada for the Transalp. No discounts anywhere I could find. Paying cash does not matter to dealers for bike and autos here. I never finance a depreciating item which is something I learned from very wealthy people.
At the selling dealership I do get a discount always on all parts, clothes and accessories going forward which is kind of standard I find.
The gear is a huge tip and so correct. I bought a bike and had hoped my old, 15+ year old gear that’s been in storage would suffice… not at all. $1200+ later I’m at what I’d call a decent level of protection for my use needs. Boots are paramount!
Side note, man did prices of quality gear go up in 15 years!
Ordered the pump. Be excellent! And it just arrived 3.5 hours later… Stay excellent Ben.
Recently bought my first bike after a 12 year hiatus from riding. First bike bought from a dealership either way though. My advice is to BE PATIENT. You don't NEED the bike right now. I know it's exciting and all you want to do is ride, but if you just wait for a good deal to come along, it will. Wait til winter when the dealers are itching to offload their summer inventories. Killer deals are out there if you're willing to hold out and look for them.
When I was shopping for my first bike, before I was comfortable with the balance of a bike, I was always very nervous sitting or standing on a bike in the showroom on a kickstand. Most bikes aren't going to tip if you sit or even stand on them while on the kickstand. Getting a feel for the bike with your feet on the pegs is important.
Good tips! I plan on buying a first real bike (as it stands right now CRF300L, KLX300, KLR650, DR650 are the top contenders). But I'm not rushing. I'm actually scouting trails and areas I want to ride in my area. I've also started buying riding gear. Where I live there is really not a lot of public unpaved roads. Luckily I found an OHV park 30 minutes away from my house. Once I feel I'm ready I'll take the riding course for the license and probably buy the bike that same week while the training is fresh. One of my biggest obstacles is deciding if I should ride to the OHV park or transport the bike with my Truck. Getting ramps and learning how to load the bike is a little scary though. But so is riding in traffic (while I'm still learning the bike at least).
Another pretty useful video Ben !!! ... The test ride - yes - 100% agree - VERY important.
I came to Honda dealership, with a full intention TO BUY the NT1100 ( I just woke up one day, and decided - I WANT THAT bike ). Then, the salesman himself, asked if I wanted to test ride the bike.... I didn't see the reason for doing it, but took it for a spin, anyway.... Long story short - I did not buy that bike - not for me !
And unless he asked me to try that bike - I would be selling it the next week .... More than that - it's nearly impossible to evaluate the bike from a single 30-60 min test-ride. If the dealer can't let the bike go for several hours, at once - I'd recommend to try the bike in several times - if possible different dealers.
i have the larger fanttic air pump… just bought this one. thanks dork!
Just picked up that same orange KLR 650 2 weeks ago, loving it as my first bike
As a retired Army veteran when I got my Multistrada V4S, the dealer program had a $750 gear allowance, granted I had my gear already, but there was some stuff I needed as well which was great for me when I lived in the PNW and needed a nice set of wet weather gear and got a premium Revvit zip up rain suit, winter gloves, boots etc. Not all.do that, but was a perk of getting a Duc considering how much $$ you're already spending 😂
Ordered the pump! Will work great for my cross country trip. Thanks!
I've had that pump for about 4-6 months and can honestly say that you are going to be really happy with your purchase. It's so easy to set a pressure and just let it go. Much faster than anything I've carried before - not super small, but very light. Keep it charged and make sure the nozzle is always plugged into the unit. When the nozzle is out, the unit is on and this will drain the battery. Good luck on your cross-country trip! Will you post it on RUclips?
@@donewhiskey I will likely not as I’m not a RUclipsr lol. I don’t even own camera gear!
Got a good deal on mine.
Buy last years model and paid cash.
Big savings. List price for the bike was 8,100. Bought it for 6,400
I recently got a bike and it became boring really fast I could pass cars making some slow maneuvers and felt that it’s just not for me even though I love the style and the bike looks amazing it was just not enough for me to really enjoy and I am a slow driver it got to 60-65 and struggled and got hot really fast around the my leg near the exhaust. So yeah really important to know what’s your preferred style and get a bike that suits you❤
#3…at 19 I bought my first bike, a Katana 600, then I shopped for insurance. Needless to say I could only afford liability.
I've had my 2024 ktm 1290 sar for over a month now, and the insurance price was a big reason for getting it. Only 57 bucks a month for full coverage, and it can put you in trouble in a hurry.
Man, I miss the old massive sportbike group rides we used to do back in the day. It was nice because once the group got to know you, you'd be able to swap bikes mid ride and check a lot of different bikes out. I got to ride friends FZR's, R1's, RC51's, GSX-Rs, Honda Hawks...all kinds of fun bikes. Made it pretty easy to figure out what bike you wanted next. The ADV bike crew doesn't seem as interested in swapping bikes, but probably for a good reason since tip-overs are way more likely and rough terrain is easier to handle on a bike you know. Still...I miss swapping bikes to get to try new ones out.
So I guess tip 8 is to join a large crew of riders that likes to swap bikes if you wanna try out different rides.
My tip would be to buy used.
I did that and ended up hating the bike I got. Traded it in for a new different bike that I really like. 😂
I’m trusting you Dork. Just purchased the Fanttik X9 Pro Portable Tire Inflator.
If ya can't test ride it,walk away.bought a sportster used,no miles guy would only let me ride it in a parking lot.was able to hit 4th gear,but ahh you can guess where this is going.yep had to replace gears and bearings. That 5 grand bike price was really 7. All great advice.nice vid.
@@davidshaffer4649 not a single dealership in Michigan will let you test ride a new bike. I've been told it's impossible to get Michigan insurance that allows test rides. I was able to test ride used bikes.
Great advice.
Two things. I prefer to negotiate in person. People know they have a real chance to sell you a bike if you’re standing right in front of them. Also they know you’re not going to post their offer on the internet. They’re less likely to give you a good price if there’s a chance the next customer is going to want the same deal. Also the dealer makes money on the finance deal,so you’re going to pay more if you have your own financing. Personally I’ve never financed a bike deal. It’s a toy and if you need to finance it, you can’t afford it - thats just me though
Good advice. I never bought a motorcycle from a dealership, I always bought used from a private party. I own four bikes so far.
I would like to add to his checklist, do a lot of research on HOW the bikes behave. I didn't ride dirtbikes as a kid, or a teenager, I had a total of like 100km on my dad's crf235R. I was very very green going into getting a bike. So I wanted something that most people agreed was near impossible to wheelie, and was torquey. Basically a tractor. I got exactly that bike, a Kawasaki KLR 650 Adventure, 2024, just rolled over 800km, it had 2km on it when I bought it. It was cheap, basic maintenance is easy, it won't try to flip upside down if I accidentally drop the clutch on it too quick because I panicked. My next bike will likely be a Husqy FE501, because I want something with quite a bit more punch that I can use single track. Light with a lil' bit of oh shit factor. Gonna keep my KLR though. Love that bike.
TLDR: Bikes behave wildly different, make sure the one you're looking at is exactly what you want. If you're looking for something to cruise on, sportbikes are horribly uncomfortable for long rides. If you want to offroad, you probably don't want an 800lb harley or indian road yacht. If you want to single track, you shouldn't get a Grom. See what people use it for, the problems, the factory issues. What upgrades there are to solve them.
On my 1st bike here in Florida, I went to the bank and got a personal loan. The motorcycle loan was more percentage versus the personal. So, basically paid cash and even got a better deal on my 2021 suzuki drz400s. Thanks for the video. 👍🏻
Thanks for assembling important points together. Yet another thing to be realized by all new riders: comparing to other countries, here in the US cops will hate you! They'll totally refuse to appreciate all natural advantages (like geometry, maneuverability, power/weight ratio) which a bike provides and will hunt you. Ben, you've ridden to Mexico so you know what I am talking about. After 10 years of riding experience in Europe I am still afraid to ride on the streets and highways here...
Hey Ben, that is awesome being in Canada. I was looking at your sales tax and that is so low imagine buying a bike up in Canada. Thank you for that information.
Sold my bikes, realized motorcycles weren't for me. Yet here I am getting the itch to ride again. Come to find out, I think I had the wrong bikes. Great info.
@@JL-th3qh what kind of bike did you have?
@@thehumblemerchant7341 I had a 2020 klx250, 2019 Honda crf250l and I started with a 2001 ttr. All were Too " dirt bike" for me. I'm looking at a tw or Himalayan.
Very good advice.
Many dealers here have a specific demo bike however they don’t allow learners to use or demo bikes. Depending on the model you want they may expect you to have several years of experience riding bikes. Dealerships often will allow you to purchase new gear firsthand before you get the bike this can be when you get some amazing deals and they know you’re going to buy a bike. You should look at renting over a week end to try the bike. Most importantly if you can go with a wing person to stop you from impulse buying. My mate got himself a big BMW GS his wife was super cranky as it was very expensive he then dropped it and broke his leg was 8 months off work.
Great Advise Dork mister 🙌. Especially the MSF Courses. Gave the exact Advise to a woman considering doing the bike lifestyle. Maybe you'll LOVE ❤️ it,, maybe you won't. Its the minimal investment imho.
Have a safe Labor day weekend 🙏🏻.
I have one of those Fantic air compressors. It's awesome!
What's grest about taking a class is you can hopefully choose a school with lots of types of bikes for you to try. The course is mandatory where I live and I had been riding offroad since I was 6 so I went in thinking I was buying an ADV for sure and after trying a 700GS and a KTM 790 I realized it just wasn't for me. The instructor suggested I try the CB650 which at first I was sure I wasn't going to like. Ended up buying it after the class ended at the end of the season.
Gimme a break. Tank top, daisy dukes, flip flops & a pair of cheap sun glasses. Best way to find what you really need
Good health insurance?
Hi Ben you are awesome just wanted to see when my shirt going to show up I ordered it on July 29 thanks and hope you are having a wonderful day
Solid advice Ben, and congrats, up to 125k suns now!
I've purchased 5 motorcycles. My first bike I had sneakers jeans and a hand-me-down half helmet.
Never test rode a single one, only the first bike I saw in person before purchasing.
Never was able to attend a MSF.
I don't think I've ever checked insurance costs before I got a bike, my last one costing over $8,000 a year (Luckily switched companies to $1,100).
Never talked to anyone before buying a bike as I had no one to ask about them.
I can't believe I've broken nearly all of these. All great points that many people just get screwed by not following. I'm glad I managed to get lucky every time so far.
I have better gear now, of course. But still have never been able to attend a MSF and at this point it is what it is. I may attend an advanced or intermediate class when I'm able.
I just bought the pump on Amazon with the code. Thanks!
Great vid, despite looking off to my left (your right) the whole time. A wee bit disconcerting. Might have to grab a fanttik. Looks cool. Assume it's a powerbank too?
That reconditioning fee is a bunch of bull! lol
I guess it works for them if they're still doing it but, yeah, I wouldn't go back there either.
I would add one more… do your online homework for dealerships a good ways from your home. I wasn’t willing to fly from virginia to Tennessee to get the absolutely best price, but I was willing to drive into Maryland to save $4500 on my 2018 Goldwing. This is probably not a good idea for new riders, but it was great for me!
You can also get a discount on gear if your dealership/shop is affiliated with the MSF course you take. Buying your helmet someplace that will help you fit it correctly, then taking the MSF course, then buying your gear at such a dealership also lets you benefit from picking the brains of the salespeople there not just about which bike you're interested in, but best gear too.
You forgot the all important #8 thing to do before buying a motorcycle... check with Dork in the Road and see if he has one for sale!
I highly recommend test riding as well. I thought I wanted a TW200. The test ride told me nope.
Rofl. I'm an idiot. You were 5:56 5:56 talking about your sponsor, which I thought was some kind of monster lock. I was wondering how a padlock would help with a flat. I have the AIRMOTO one and works great.
Maintenance should also be considered, remember there is no such thing as a free puppy. Example: some Ducati desmo engines require timing belt / valve services every 12,000 - 15,000 miles which can be quite costly (not picking on Ducati, just an example)
As usual good solid advice keep it up
What is the duty cycle of the tire pump? IE: minutes on pumping versus minutes off to de-heat.
Excellent Advice!!
Can we join you on your CA BDR trip?
I',m old fart. Did not have to do all bullbleep. Bought BMW R100s, second street bike, after yamaha rd400 turned into race bike.
#9 ….. If you walk into a dealership to look at multiple bikes and are ignored by the sales staff … leave. There are other dealerships that actually have customer service.
#8 - if you walk into a dealership and something doesn’t feel right, they don’t listen to you, they talk down to you…walk! The nicest and most helpful a dealership is going to be is right as you walk in the door. If something doesn’t feel right, 95% of the time it is going to go downhill from there.
1. Impossible to sell or trade.
I bought a Suzuki C50 Bolivard. Paid $4,000 for it 3 years ago in Florida...
Today I can't give it away...
In Florida nobody has money.
Other than a house, we always say that if you have to get a loan you can't afford it. All of our vehicles we save for and pay in full.
Thanks I been riding dirt bike for years but I been saving up for a daul sport bike I'm thinking DRZ 400e next spring and I have been buy gear for daul sport riding
How do you negotiate the price (over email, or in person)? What do you say?
That air pump thing looks good, like the auto off feature. However 23 min run time sounds pretty bad. I'm sure a lot better than seems like sounds. It's not like it takes me half hour to pump up. I have been using a Ryobi air pump. I just check before leave do not take with. Seems like I charge the battery once every couple months.
I prefer the smaller, lightweight option that plugs into the bike, and I always have it.
I followed none of these😅 I still have lots of fun on my bike though
Sooooo…. Are we getting a review of the NX?
Test rides? I have never seen a dealer that allows that. Ever.
For dealers, some sell financing, not bikes. Be careful. If you can pay cash, get a price first then tell them you will pay the whole amount no financing. I have seen a dealer add 1500$ (on a 10 000 bike!) if I did not take their financing. I walked out the door.
I just take for granted I'm going to get raw dogged in the dealership. So I just pay and hope the bike gives me so much fun I don't care... it works😂
I bought a motorcycle, and it isn't even released in the USA yet
Would love to hear from a motorcycle mechanic regarding the ridiculous fees some places charge for "dealership fees" (my buddy was looking to buy a RE Himi 450, was quoted $2000 CAD on a bike with an MSRP of $7,699 CAD!) - how long does it actually take to uncrate and assemble your average motorcycle to prep it for sale?
@@alozborne that's a ripoff.
I'd rather buy it in the crate
If possible
@@isawthelight LOL, right?!
All of those dealer fees are B.S. I don't care how long it takes them to assemble it. That is their cost and it should go above the line. Imagine going into a grocery store to buy some bananas for 99 cents a pound, but then you get up to the register and they want to charge you a picking fee, transportation fee, ripening fee, etc.
#1 don’t go to a dealership
Especially in Calif!!! I buy from auctions!
Bought a Transalp and only have a helmet. Wish me luck !
I bought gloves from Amazon for $25. Jacket was $80. Knee pads were $40. Boots were $90 although I started out on my old military steel toe boots. You don’t need expensive gear just some protection.
@@gregr3576agreed, even cheap gear is better than no gear. Even if it comes apart somewhat during a fall, it will still absorb the worst of the impact and the slide.
@@DudeAutonomy don’t let the gear nazis ruin your ride, especially the ones making money from selling it.
I'd recommend some gloves and boots to go along with the helmet. Jacket and pants can be had later on down the road. I find gloves to be just as important as a helmet.
You momma should be proud of you.
The link won’t give me the $39 deal!
100% you didn’t use the code. It works.
Had same issue. Does show the promo credit.
Test ride the bike always.
If they don't let you test ride it, don't buy it, unless it is a new bike and you already rode it another like that.
Put the money on the table, if they don't let you test ride it,
and say: i have the money, if i brake it i buy it, now can i test ride it to see if i like it?
Never buy a bike that you never ride it. You must see if you like it.
do not finance your gear.
Where is Grace
Dork doesn’t pay very much attention to his comments anymore.
So you're saying, buy the biggest bike you can , brand new model, without any research, and tell them in advance you're going to pay cash.😂😂😂😂
My tip: Watch Dork in the Road videos. Videos like this are invaluable.
Never.... Never... bought bike or car from a dealership.... don't know Anyone who has ......
That is my comment also. Buy used.
Kewl dude
I never used to have a problem buying new bikes from dealers back in the day Always test rode them first, was able to negotiate a good price and rode away happy. But in the last decade I have noticed that most dealers where I live (SoCal) have stoped offering test rides and have started tacking on exhorbitant markup fees on top of the regular price. Paying MSRP used to be considered a negotiation failure (like in the classic King if the Hill episode.) Today you gotta fight tooth and nail just to pay full price! It's no wonder the motorcycle industry is dying. It's like they are doing everything in their power NOT to sell bikes.
I buy a new 4 wheeler every few years. You can’t find them that haven’t been trashed in my area. I don’t buy from my local dealer, because they are exactly what you think they are, crooks. But I can drive 2hrs to the next state over to a shop that I can trust. And if I want a brand new bike, and I can get less than 4% financing, which the dealer has no control over anyway, I can, and I don’t have to worry about getting bent over because I have an established relationship with this place. No body on RUclips and other platforms believe how much I pay for my new bikes because they pay about a grand or more on everything I buy. You just have to know the bottom dollar a dealer would be willing to take. But I don’t even have to worry about that anymore, because I’ve bought so many from the same place. And I’ll tell my local dealer about that too. But they don’t care.
So how are you supposed to buy a new bike if not from the dealer?
Buy gear to cover your scars
Gear nazis… the bane of motorcycling. Had multi people pull over off the highway to come tell me I need to be wearing gear over the years. Ride your ride and leave people alone. Been riding 20+ years and working in healthcare for 15 years, I chose to ride in shorts and tshirt. I know what I’m in for, also have personally pulled fancy fiber strands out of the road rash from people that were wearing all the fancy gear.
I will however say get the best helmet you can, take the money you were gonna spend on other gear and put it into a helmet that fits properly.
It doesn't matter how long you ride. Losing all the skin off your arms legs and back is what it is. Peer pressuring people into wearing better gear is one of the few times I'll say that it's a healthy thing in the motorcycle community. Riding in shorts and a t-shirt is setting a bad example to younger riders in my opinion.
@@derek96720 nah, y’all need to get over your holier then thou attitudes about gear. Y’all are as bad as the damn Covid mask nazis. Get over yourself, wear gear if you want I don’t care but leave me alone.
Check to see if Ian @bigrockmoto has reviewed the bike you want to buy, you're not going to find more comprehensive or balanced reviews on bikes
him and his review is the main reason i got my Vstrom 800DE. he answers damn near every question you could want to ask and not think to ask lol.
Where are you getting that insurance rate?