I bought one of these in 1985, for $800.00. It was fantastic, and very versitile. Just about broke my heart when I had to sell it. The only thing I didn't really like about it was that it was a glossy black; it showed every fingerprint that touched it.
My ES-347 is a special ordered 23 3/4" neck. Very easy for jazz chords and is great for stumping rock jams. I have never seen another short scale 347. Mine is also in elegant black and gold. Bought at American Music Co. Odessa, Texas 1979.
If you have a Floyd Rose, you can do the same kind of fine tuning as you showed by using the fine tuners on the bridge. I don't use it anymore, so i removed the nut string lock bar and use a little wooden block to lock the bridge in place. The metal nut is so nice because you can down tune slightly and you don't have to go below and then back up, you can go down just a hair and it'll be right there. And when tuning, i can use the tuners on the neck or the fine tuners on the bridge. If I were buying a brand new guitar, I wouldn't choose the option of having a Floyd Rose, but I'm not afraid of having one. I used it when I first got this guitar, and they're easy to figure out. The hardest part is when you do a string change, it's a bit frustrating when you have five out of the six strings tuned, you tune the 6th and then the other five are out of tune!
I used to change one string at a time on my FR guitar it was less tedious but now I will just block it in place and stick to the same gauge and brand strings. Block the trem before you pull your old strings so it’s blocked at its zero point and then you can change all six tune up stretch and retune then pull the block out and use the spring claw screws to tune the guitar to pitch after removing the block.
4:15 THAT'S MY GUITAR!!! A 1979 ES-347 in Antique Sunburst bought from Ish Guitars, and now living with me in Chile, South America. In fact, I'm playing it right now, hahahaha... how funny to see it on this chapter!
Good episode I really enjoy the deep dive into the differences in the 335 and all its siblings. I think this one is a special one for sure, glad you got to document it at least, I love the 335's and the history behind them. I wonder if BB King ever rocked a 347? PS: Try redoing the bridge PUs soldering maybe you can fix the anomaly. Great episode anyway Trog! 👍 This girl has alot of music waiting to burst out, it sounds really special, I can hear it!!! 🤩
Holy Silver Burst , that is a cool guitar , love the way the Gold plays off the binding , the replacement pickups look good in there ( are they Bill Lawrence ?...O.K. yup ! ), I do like the Silver Burst , the Gold Hardware looks unique with the finish , I feel like a mouse checking out my new house with the endoscope views , a Kahler on a semi-hollow !? What -th !!? Brass nut be boss , sounds rock'N'roll ! Thanks Trog !
Yes, but no, actually the sought after one is the lesser one, the 335 dot, literally the "special" level. The 355 and 345 are fancier, but 335 is more popular
@@beatmasterbossy that's debatable though, as for me & many others the most sought after model 335 is the block inlays from the early 60's, purely because of Clapton. I think that's the only time where a 60's model might be more desirable than its 50's counterpart but I agree it's subjective.
Yup, the switch on the upper bout grounds part of the wind from each coil of the S7 pickups so coil tap is a better description. Proud owner of a 79 Tobacco Burst 347.
@@Trog You can't tell whether it's a split or tap purely by reading the resistance. Half as many turns on two coils will be exactly the same resistance as if all those turns were on a single coil. Resistance is purely a function of gauge and length of wire. The best way to tell if a switched pickup is split or tapped is by tapping each coil with a screwdriver to see which ones remain active. Granted, this is easier said than done on an epoxy potted covered S7...
Timing. I have to produce a video everyday - I can’t wait 3 weeks to get it fixed up. What I start, I have to finish that day. I have to work with what I have and plan ahead. I don’t have these other things and that was my bandaid fix for the day. Eventually it’ll be redone when I have enough projects to have a tech come over
Sweet ES-347 Silverburst, switching issues notwithstanding! I like these older smaller upper horns that aren't as Mickey Mouse shaped as more recent ones. I wonder if Gibson just got tired of the tighter area to work with and opened it up for convenience.
As soon as you hit the dirt, W😮W! Single notes may have lacked slightly due to wiring issues in the bridge pu but the power chords sounded phenomenal! I was impressed! \m/
TP6 tailpieces are great, and I do indeed use them as it says on the box, and I am not playing fancy jazz chords. Also if the string goes slightly sharp, it is quicker to roll off on the small knob to lower the pitch rather than the main tuner.
Nice, I always liked the silverburst Gibson's, I have a 79 blonde es 347 that has been re freted with jumbo frets it plays very nice and a 82 that's all original in antique burst and almost mint condition, they are by far the best guitars I've ever owned. the 79 was made in Kalamazoo and the 82 was I think made in Nashville. I read somewhere that the center block in the 347's are a bit wider than the other es guitars and I believe the neck volute went away after 81also when you're in single coil mode it's the outside coils that are working, the one closest to the neck or to the bridge. thanks for showing some light on these guitars they were never very popular and they are some of Gibsons finest.
Ahhh, I love it! 😍 If I had one though, I'd probably have to swap out the gold for nickel hardware. 😬 But bro, c'mon.. the painters tape has to go! Seriously. Please do yourself (and the next possible owner) a solid - redo your splice, but use heat shrink tubing to cover your solder joints! 😉
Silverburst looks better on the 345 , 347 then it does on a LP and it actually looked cool with the rail pups in it to me . Also I think I want 335 style guitars with a Kahler on it now, it makes more sense on a semi hollow possibly because I’ve always heard Kahler is more comparable to a bigsby as far as feel and type of smooth warbling action
I have an LP Studio w the TP-6 and I use it for fine tuning. It has a different ratio that wouldn't be practical for headstock tuners, more incremental. I see it also has the Bill and Becky Lawrence "Wylde" Pickups, Bill Lawrence worked for Gibson so it is not unlikely the guitar camse stock with these PU's. Dime Bag Darrel was a big fan of these PUs and used the XXL variation, these were probably and L and XL combination given those Ohm readings. Interesting Bill always believed a PU should go up as high as possible without touching the strings, at least as far as his PUs were concerned.
Cool guitar! I have a 335 and this reminds me that I have to put my Strats down and play it more. My dad bought me one in 81 from Mannys music here in NY and I regret selling it
18:33 Are you sure the Bridge Saddles are all correctly cut? Pretty easy to move a string position by flipping the Bridge and/or Saddles around. The fingerboard inlay pockets are cut using a Pin Router Machine, they are not likely to be off dimensionally. IMO, more likely, the Bridge Saddles string slots are causing the off centered appearance/condition.
Trogly, you definitely need to invest in a cheap set of heat shrink tubing and a heat gun lol…… hell, you can even opt to use a cigarette lighter and avoid the cost of a heat gun 😉🤟
I have a hell of a time trying to do any guitar wiring. Tried a couple cheap soldering irons, burned up some pots. Ended up buying a pretty expensive one and its a lot better but always looks a mess 😂
I have a original condition sunburst ES-347 made Nov 1978, Heavy ? Yes, shoulder buster. Some conjecture on what pickups fitted [I've never lifted them] as from what little info about this model, they are supposed to be "Dirty Fingers", anyway, they are the originals. Very powerful and clear sound [Never thin, still complex micro harmonics heard], will overdrive a tube amp into distortion VERY easily, which truth be told, can be a PITA at times, not that great at mellower Jazz tones, great as a Rhythm guitar, in both coil tap and full humbucker positions. My frets are original, as in Low flat, not the greatest for bending, but you learn to work with it like any old Gibson. I found if you get a FULL set of Fine Mesh sanding pads [ 1500- 12000 ], you can polish the frets to act like Stainless Steel ones [As in making bends a LOT easier, same with sliding chords], but retain the original feel
I prefer perimeter bursts. The teardrop burst on the ES series has Mickey Mouse ears vibes. Even though knowing that the Humbucking mode was not quite right in the bridge, I just wasn’t enamored by the sound. But good job reviewing it anyway.
I got sick of seeing silver burst because of the whole Adam Jones thing dragging on but, I got to admit this looks really really good I love all the funky specs as well.
i saw lot of gibson guitar with block inlay, the block inlay not perfectly center, always 2 or 3 inlay slightly off center, just like your new video 63 SG from japan and 54 les paul custom reissue, i thought was normal, because happened on so many block inlay gibson guitar, make me think is supposed like that..?
Yoo, I think those may be actually vintage Bill Lawrence L500's, cool find for sure. So sad he cut the wires out to install "original" pickups that are shorting out...
I have a stupid question do the numbers mean anything or is it just a model number kind of sg means soild guitar love your watch every day I have learned so much from you and I even hear your name referenced on other channels as ask trogly he will know
I'll take Fender's Inca Silver over Gibson's weird greenish "silverburst" ANY DAY... Cool guitar, but silverburst just never did it for me. In fact, it reminds me of Fender's Antigua finish 😅 Nice find nonetheless 👌
@Trog That's a shame since I suspect you really don't like having to do things like cutting and splicing those pickup wires, but you don't have the time to do it properly. How about sending guitars that need more work to a reputable luthier/tech by courier ? You certainly know how to pack them securely. Here we have a 'man and a van' to make personalized delivery. Once trusted people are found and a pattern established, it could be as easy as making a phone call.
I bought one of these in 1985, for $800.00. It was fantastic, and very versitile. Just about broke my heart when I had to sell it. The only thing I didn't really like about it was that it was a glossy black; it showed every fingerprint that touched it.
My ES-347 is a special ordered 23 3/4" neck. Very easy for jazz chords and is great for stumping rock jams. I have never seen another short scale 347. Mine is also in elegant black and gold. Bought at American Music Co. Odessa, Texas 1979.
If you have a Floyd Rose, you can do the same kind of fine tuning as you showed by using the fine tuners on the bridge. I don't use it anymore, so i removed the nut string lock bar and use a little wooden block to lock the bridge in place. The metal nut is so nice because you can down tune slightly and you don't have to go below and then back up, you can go down just a hair and it'll be right there. And when tuning, i can use the tuners on the neck or the fine tuners on the bridge. If I were buying a brand new guitar, I wouldn't choose the option of having a Floyd Rose, but I'm not afraid of having one. I used it when I first got this guitar, and they're easy to figure out. The hardest part is when you do a string change, it's a bit frustrating when you have five out of the six strings tuned, you tune the 6th and then the other five are out of tune!
I used to change one string at a time on my FR guitar it was less tedious but now I will just block it in place and stick to the same gauge and brand strings. Block the trem before you pull your old strings so it’s blocked at its zero point and then you can change all six tune up stretch and retune then pull the block out and use the spring claw screws to tune the guitar to pitch after removing the block.
That split coil setting really works with this guitar!
Larry Carlton converted his 1968 335 in the 70s with the tail Stop set back it changes the tone and string tension.
4:15 THAT'S MY GUITAR!!! A 1979 ES-347 in Antique Sunburst bought from Ish Guitars, and now living with me in Chile, South America. In fact, I'm playing it right now, hahahaha... how funny to see it on this chapter!
Good episode I really enjoy the deep dive into the differences in the 335 and all its siblings. I think this one is a special one for sure, glad you got to document it at least, I love the 335's and the history behind them. I wonder if BB King ever rocked a 347?
PS: Try redoing the bridge PUs soldering maybe you can fix the anomaly. Great episode anyway Trog! 👍 This girl has alot of music waiting to burst out, it sounds really special, I can hear it!!! 🤩
Holy Silver Burst , that is a cool guitar , love the way the Gold plays off the binding , the replacement pickups look good in there ( are they Bill Lawrence ?...O.K. yup ! ), I do like the Silver Burst , the Gold Hardware looks unique with the finish , I feel like a mouse checking out my new house with the endoscope views , a Kahler on a semi-hollow !? What -th !!? Brass nut be boss , sounds rock'N'roll ! Thanks Trog !
I enjoyed your detective work on this one! Nice find.
I love it! I’ve seen a couple of 347 in Natural with amazing flame in the neck 🤩
So an ES-347 is 2 better than an ES-345 and 12 better than an ES-335 but 8 worse than an ES-355?...lol
Your mathematics skills are amazing.
@@sgt.grinch3299Why, don't things add up?
Yes, but no, actually the sought after one is the lesser one, the 335 dot, literally the "special" level.
The 355 and 345 are fancier, but 335 is more popular
@@beatmasterbossy that's debatable though, as for me & many others the most sought after model 335 is the block inlays from the early 60's, purely because of Clapton. I think that's the only time where a 60's model might be more desirable than its 50's counterpart but I agree it's subjective.
Dont forget down-stepping to the 330
Both my first 2 electric guitars in the early 80's were adorned with brass parts! It was the cool thing back then...
When you had the endoscope on the inside it looked as if one of the leads might have been touching the coil splitting switch with its outer jacket.
Nice find. The patina looks great on it.
ES-347s were advertised as a coil tap, not a split. I have had a 79 and an 80 and they are both coil taps.
Yup, the switch on the upper bout grounds part of the wind from each coil of the S7 pickups so coil tap is a better description. Proud owner of a 79 Tobacco Burst 347.
Gibson incorrectly uses “tap” all the time in this era. It is a “split” by the pickup readings
@@Trog You can't tell whether it's a split or tap purely by reading the resistance. Half as many turns on two coils will be exactly the same resistance as if all those turns were on a single coil. Resistance is purely a function of gauge and length of wire. The best way to tell if a switched pickup is split or tapped is by tapping each coil with a screwdriver to see which ones remain active. Granted, this is easier said than done on an epoxy potted covered S7...
Sounds great dirty!
How come we didn’t get to hear both sets of pickups for comparison? 🎸😕
Masking tape on a solder joint? Good lord buy some shrink tubing, no wonder the pickup stopped working!
Or at least some electrical tape lol!
that's what I was thinking... a guitar of that value, why do half a job... buy some medical tubing, pull the loom out and do the job properly...
@@davidrichards6750again, great knowledge, but should not be working on guitars.
Timing. I have to produce a video everyday - I can’t wait 3 weeks to get it fixed up. What I start, I have to finish that day. I have to work with what I have and plan ahead. I don’t have these other things and that was my bandaid fix for the day. Eventually it’ll be redone when I have enough projects to have a tech come over
@@Trog Makes sense - at least it has a full on fix in its future 🙂
My first guitar was a Washburn with a wonderbar trem. Never used the trem but used the fine tuners always
Sweet ES-347 Silverburst, switching issues notwithstanding! I like these older smaller upper horns that aren't as Mickey Mouse shaped as more recent ones. I wonder if Gibson just got tired of the tighter area to work with and opened it up for convenience.
As soon as you hit the dirt, W😮W! Single notes may have lacked slightly due to wiring issues in the bridge pu but the power chords sounded phenomenal! I was impressed! \m/
TP6 tailpieces are great, and I do indeed use them as it says on the box, and I am not playing fancy jazz chords.
Also if the string goes slightly sharp, it is quicker to roll off on the small knob to lower the pitch rather than the main tuner.
Seems like this could correct errors of the equal temperament for where you play on the neck.
@ not really, but maybe?
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Semi hollow + silver burst looks good to me.
I’ve played some tarback pups a few times. I always thought they were muddy sounding to my ear.
I JUST got through installing new pickups and a master vol/ tone with both push/ pull for a true coil split. It’s kinda easy, if not tedious. 😅
splicing pickup wires - i‘m shocked! 😉
Nice, I always liked the silverburst Gibson's, I have a 79 blonde es 347 that has been re freted with jumbo frets it plays very nice and a 82 that's all original in antique burst and almost mint condition, they are by far the best guitars I've ever owned. the 79 was made in Kalamazoo and the 82 was I think made in Nashville. I read somewhere that the center block in the 347's are a bit wider than the other es guitars and I believe the neck volute went away after 81also when you're in single coil mode it's the outside coils that are working, the one closest to the neck or to the bridge. thanks for showing some light on these guitars they were never very popular and they are some of Gibsons finest.
Forget to mention, they come with a maple neck and the 82 has a different type of bridge
347s are awesome guitars ❤️
Not into the two-tone thing this has going on, but the Sunbursts look amazeballs (Black are fine, too).
Would have liked to hear the Lawerance pups before hand. I do like the over driven sounds though.
Ahhh, I love it! 😍
If I had one though, I'd probably have to swap out the gold for nickel hardware. 😬
But bro, c'mon.. the painters tape has to go! Seriously. Please do yourself (and the next possible owner) a solid - redo your splice, but use heat shrink tubing to cover your solder joints! 😉
I have a 335 in silver burst, I love it
I prefer the ES-339. Just feels right. Most semi-hollows feel a little too odd in my hands.
The Brass nut is why this semi doesn't play nice with the jazz chords, but man o man does it rock with the gain cranked.
Silverburst looks better on the 345 , 347 then it does on a LP and it actually looked cool with the rail pups in it to me . Also I think I want 335 style guitars with a Kahler on it now, it makes more sense on a semi hollow possibly because I’ve always heard Kahler is more comparable to a bigsby as far as feel and type of smooth warbling action
I have an LP Studio w the TP-6 and I use it for fine tuning. It has a different ratio that wouldn't be practical for headstock tuners, more incremental. I see it also has the Bill and Becky Lawrence "Wylde" Pickups, Bill Lawrence worked for Gibson so it is not unlikely the guitar camse stock with these PU's. Dime Bag Darrel was a big fan of these PUs and used the XXL variation, these were probably and L and XL combination given those Ohm readings. Interesting Bill always believed a PU should go up as high as possible without touching the strings, at least as far as his PUs were concerned.
Cool guitar! I have a 335 and this reminds me that I have to put my Strats down and play it more. My dad bought me one in 81 from Mannys music here in NY and I regret selling it
I was wondering if you keep all of your guitar in tuned or do you take the tension off the neck?
Love a TP6… like a top hat on a tuxedo!
the brass nut and bone nut, is any notable different in terms of sound and play ability?
Tone, yes - I prefer the brass
Brass nuts are better in cold weather.
18:33 Are you sure the Bridge Saddles are all correctly cut?
Pretty easy to move a string position by flipping the Bridge and/or Saddles around.
The fingerboard inlay pockets are cut using a Pin Router Machine, they are not likely to be off dimensionally.
IMO, more likely, the Bridge Saddles string slots are causing the off centered appearance/condition.
Hello from Alaska.
Yes we get it we know where you’re from you don’t have to keep specifying unless if you move
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Yes,...dear.
What?
Trogly I'm curious what pickups were on the guitar, the black and chrome one in the beginning?
Trogly, you definitely need to invest in a cheap set of heat shrink tubing and a heat gun lol…… hell, you can even opt to use a cigarette lighter and avoid the cost of a heat gun 😉🤟
I have a hell of a time trying to do any guitar wiring. Tried a couple cheap soldering irons, burned up some pots. Ended up buying a pretty expensive one and its a lot better but always looks a mess 😂
Practice makes perfect. ;-)
I have a original condition sunburst ES-347 made Nov 1978, Heavy ? Yes, shoulder buster. Some conjecture on what pickups fitted [I've never lifted them] as from what little info about this model, they are supposed to be "Dirty Fingers", anyway, they are the originals. Very powerful and clear sound [Never thin, still complex micro harmonics heard], will overdrive a tube amp into distortion VERY easily, which truth be told, can be a PITA at times, not that great at mellower Jazz tones, great as a Rhythm guitar, in both coil tap and full humbucker positions. My frets are original, as in Low flat, not the greatest for bending, but you learn to work with it like any old Gibson.
I found if you get a FULL set of Fine Mesh sanding pads [ 1500- 12000 ], you can polish the frets to act like Stainless Steel ones [As in making bends a LOT easier, same with sliding chords], but retain the original feel
I don’t like gold hardware at all!!
Great video!
Thank you
I prefer perimeter bursts. The teardrop burst on the ES series has Mickey Mouse ears vibes.
Even though knowing that the Humbucking mode was not quite right in the bridge, I just wasn’t enamored by the sound.
But good job reviewing it anyway.
Had a '79 S.G. (Bought it for 1/2 a G)
I got sick of seeing silver burst because of the whole Adam Jones thing dragging on but, I got to admit this looks really really good I love all the funky specs as well.
That things rocks. For some reason the tone just speaks to me.
Like the hardware specs & sound but not the silver burst, blueberry burst or a redish burst.
Ground wire to the bridge shorting
JP, MA!
I’m curious why KZ would do things differently than Nashville considering they are both the same company. Anyone have any insight?
Interesting tailpiece…what pickups are on that?
I'm not really a silverburst guy, but on that ES-347 it looks good!
So what did Toy Caldwell play? He had a white Gibson hollow body with NO f holes and no vari-tone....
This guitar really kicks the dirt up
Please keep up the good work.
Thank you
i saw lot of gibson guitar with block inlay, the block inlay not perfectly center, always 2 or 3 inlay slightly off center, just like your new video 63 SG from japan and 54 les paul custom reissue, i thought was normal, because happened on so many block inlay gibson guitar, make me think is supposed like that..?
I know it’s not OG, but I actually think those L510s look hot in it. I’d offer to give them a loving home if I wasn’t broke AF
Gotcha, thank you for the response
It sounds great but I find the silverburst too '1970s glam' and not the type that becomes nostalgically cool.
Works for me !
I have a 78 LP in silver burst…
What does the asterisk in the titles mean? I've seen them used a number of times, any significance?
He hasn't actually gotten documentation that these were at that show yet.
@@joermnyc Ahh... Thanks, man!
Totally unrelated topic, sorry. This video popped up as I was learning to play the theme song for the Munsters. It's fun!!
Right on "Franken-Surf"
this thing rips.
what the fuck? i thought it would sound dead and not at all alive.
how cool is that.
How much for the pickups that were swapped out? Would be interested in buying them!
Yoo, I think those may be actually vintage Bill Lawrence L500's, cool find for sure. So sad he cut the wires out to install "original" pickups that are shorting out...
@@_SnorriThey were L510s. Cleaner version of the L500
$250
I thought these had dirty fingers pickups. At least the later ones.
Howdy everyone!!!
Not sure about the wiring 😂 it’s probably because you used blue tape to wrap the wires together 😂😂😂
Shes a keeper! Nice score!
0:05 Oooooh…..this is a long episode….should be interesting.🎸🤔
Lest you do have to worry about the headstock braking off. Pull the pots out a wire your pickups the ri🎉ght way.
Yahoo
I have a stupid question do the numbers mean anything or is it just a model number kind of sg means soild guitar love your watch every day I have learned so much from you and I even hear your name referenced on other channels as ask trogly he will know
They related to the price in Dollars, at least early on …
Wait. Is that a 79 with a maple necks and the volute...?
Yes
@Trog you know i like you. Love 78 79 from gibson. They're just sold beasts . Nothe the crap they make today IMHO
SRV! ✌🏼
lol Finger Cheese. That makes it so much more gross.
The endoscope video looks like a scene from a horror movie.
I'll take Fender's Inca Silver over Gibson's weird greenish "silverburst" ANY DAY...
Cool guitar, but silverburst just never did it for me. In fact, it reminds me of Fender's Antigua finish 😅
Nice find nonetheless 👌
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would the pickup covers been gold also? Even tho the wear resistance of the gold is most similar to wet tissue paper....I hate that.
Yes, gold covers
Is it just me...or does that guitar ROCK ir not? I own 32 guitars...16 lp's..and to my ears, that distorted sound was absolutely blissful...
Good looking guitar
The gold hardware looks like shit on there
Agreed. Doesn’t work well with the silver burst
Looks great on the Sunbursts, though (or Black).
@ def black, but all gold software not a hodgepodge
8:10 Is silver-burst a good colour on a Gibson semi-hollow? Shouldn’t you ask Adam Jones that question? 🎸🤔
I have one. NOTHING can match it's tone
Surely there is a reasonably competent and trustworthy guitar tech who lives within driving distance ?
Nope - I don’t live in a city
@Trog That's a shame since I suspect you really don't like having to do things like cutting and splicing those pickup wires, but you don't have the time to do it properly.
How about sending guitars that need more work to a reputable luthier/tech by courier ?
You certainly know how to pack them securely.
Here we have a 'man and a van' to make personalized delivery.
Once trusted people are found and a pattern established, it could be as easy as making a phone call.
guilds from the era are far better made and cheaper still
TROGG!!!
Dude you sould have paid somebody to replace you that pickups properly instead of chopping those bill lawrences like that
They were already spliced
@Trog oh crap then, shame on that guy whoever did that
Bridge P/U is smoking; only if it were a southpaw model....sold
What’s the bout size…?
Gold hardware on silverbust is a truly awful look 😂
GuitarASMR
You should wire it properly, not a good look with painters tape.
It’s a temporary job
Are you selling this? How much are you thinking of? If so?
I don’t plan on it. It’d take at least an offer of $15k net
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