Why the F1 calendar could soon look VERY different
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- No Monaco? No Spa? Lots of new street circuits? We take a look at what the F1 calendar might look like in 2030...
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2030? Seriously? I'm 70 years old. I could be dead by then and won't know if you're predictions, etc are correct. 🤣🤣🤣🤣Sorry, I couldn't resist. (FYI...I really am 70, and still hope to be watching F1 live every weekend. You guys are great and I look forward to all your videos. Thanks so much. 🥰
70!!! I'm 115 this July and I'm still watching!
@Ascari's ghost 🤣 I live in FL and I got up at 1am to watch the Australian GP live. 😆
@@LadyJoey1953 l never raced in Australia and the nearest I got to FL was the Indy 500. It was 1952 driving a Ferrari 375. Was doing OK until the front wheel fell off on lap 40.
Futtimi! I could have won that race!
Just curious, how long have you been watching F1? Like who were your first favourites in F1? I started watching early 90s, so for me it was the Senna/Prost battle that got me hooked.
@Haribo I never heard of F1 until Neflix "Drive to Survive" came out. 2 years ago I subscribed to the F1 channel and love it. I've been a Red Bull fan from the beginning. Of course, I'm a Max fan, but also a Charles LeClerc fan...I would have loved to see him win the championship last year. I've watched a lot of the documentaries on the F1 channel and I know if I'd been watching years ago I would have been a Senna/Prost fan too.
I would love to see Hockenheim back on the calendar, too. The last race there was a banger.
Racing wise, one of my favorite tracks. Some hard breaking area's for overtaking.
Never happening.
Hockenheim lost its heart when they axed 50% of the track.
@@michaeljamieson3582 I agree.
@@michaeljamieson3582 Forest straight sucked and you only remember it fondly because 20 years ago you saw cars screaming around it on your old TV and thought it was the coolest thing ever, but it'd make for awful racing and that's why they got rid of it.
Thanks for giving us something f1 to watch in these 4 week breaks
It's a struggle but we're trying haha!!
@@mattp1tommyit’s fantastic to see video that are not full off made up click bate 🐂💩
@@Kyle-Russell too much of f1 youtube is "max verstappen dying?" and then show a 2 minute video where he coughs once
Why is F1 on a 4 week break? A bit long in my opinion……
it feels like a summer break :c
It would be nice to see a video comparing the 2013 grid to the grid today - who has changed in the last decade. Might be nice for the newbies as well as some of us who have been around for a while for some nostalgia. Loved the video guys keep up the hard work!
Lets see...
- Still here: Lewis, Fernando, Checo, Hulkenberg, K-Mag?
- The rest have all been rookies since then or have left? I mean Danny is still here as a 3rd driver, but was he in ToroRosso during 2013?
Or did you mean the calendar?
As a German I can say that the German Grand Prix is definitly coming back in 2026 according to Amus
I already accepted the fact that there will never be a German Grand Prix again. Why can't you, fellow German citizen?
Hoffentlich
Wer hat's geschrieben? Der M. Schmidt? Ihm würde ich das kaum glauben...
Bring back Nordschleife!!!!!! I miss the old long tracks. Old Spa and Nordschleife were the best tracks F1 has ever had.
Nah, definitely never happening. Nobody in Germany is gonna be paid that amount of money, and Germany is way too concerned about the environment, except in all the wrong places.
It’s a shame that Hungaroring went under the radar in the discussion. It’s a great track that provided with some bangers consistently and would love to see it on the calendar forever!
Without Spa, it'll never be the same. Even though the weather can be awful and the roads to get to the track worse, it's for my mind, one of the best racing tracks in the world.
Spa really needs some outside investors or them putting the race day ticket earnings into the facilities. As you say, access roads (and campsites nearby) are a mess, specially if it rains. Besides the challenge of the track itself for drivers has been downgraded by being able to take Eau Rogue and Radilllion flat out no problem today.
Sadly the track is also like a fine wine. Drivers and old time fans love it, but it seems it doesn´t get the mass appeal of something like Coca Cola. And when mass market profits are the target, you just can´t have fine wine circuits, at least in the mind of the FIA.
I think a rotation of tracks year in - year out; is probably the best way forward
But then again some tracks tied themselves to 10-year deals and such... you would end up rotating Spa and Monza for instance.
@@soundscape26 that might be to only option to see them at all
I had this discussion with my brother like 6 months ago and we came up with an awesome schedule that rotates certain places every other year
Rotating schedules likely won't work for track promoters, just look at the German grand prix.
Hey guys! Your videos are amazing and I'm so glad to see you guys back with more F1 content. Keep up the good work guys!!
Next week's video - Will Max still be on the grid in 2050?
*Alonso
😂😂😂
@@hipotenuza5663 crylonso* and no he won’t 😂😂😂Ocon will still be beating him
@@AZBCDEE leave
@@AZBCDEE fans like you are not needed
Don't forget a race in North Korea. Domenicali says he is confident bringing F1 to a country with dubious human rights track record will help in ushering changes for the better.
It's lights out and away we go to prison 😂
They don't race, the police would prevent them leaving aha
Pyongyang street circuit, at night. With no lighting.
Kyalami and Sepang are definitely up there but in my opinion, 2 tracks that MUST return to the calendar are Buddh and Portimao. Both brilliant circuits that deserve a spot on the calendar. As far as current circuits go, Spa must remain. Money is slowly ruining this beautiful sport
Incidentally Kyalami and Buddh have very similar layouts. But to have all those returns (plus Germany) I think you'd lose legacy circuits, not the Middle East money tracks, or the Miami (which I think was okayish)/Las Vegas.
If Spa goes it will be one of the worst thing for the sport
Come to WEC, we still have Spa
@@Brendo2386
absolutely mate, spa '97 was like the Race that turned me finally to an F1 Nerd
im watching since '94 but I wasn't that much into it just bc my uncle watched it and talked A LOT about it 😁😁😁
sepang is also an incredible weekend.
not just the track, the Race is always good and challenging to drive.
I honestly really like the Portuguese circuit.
My favorite track in the F1 games followed by Spa.
💯
Yes, Estoril is brilliant
@@chrisc475 I think he means Portimao, not Estoril.
@@chrisc475 portimao*
@@D.H.1987 Portimao is a damn good circuit too. Agreed.
I really wish if FIA bring back Malaysia Grand Prix into the future of f1 in 2030
It needs to come back! That track is so well suited to the current f1 busses.
Bring it back in 2024! ❤
I’d would have thought at the very least while the Chinese Grand Prix is a bit off a question mark this year and next that at least that the f1 officials would have given Malaysia🇲🇾 and/or 🇹🇷 At least a cheaper deal as back up replacement venues if the Chinese gp was cancelled …… but alas no 🤦♂️
I have to say, you do come up with creative ideas.
No reces for a month, and content is still interesting, you do got the creativity 😂
I think F1 is going to face a challenge over the next few years. A lot of new fans are used to seeing the all action versions of races (including behind the scenes) on Drive to Survive, and that popularity is good for the sport, but on the flip side ticket prises are rising, people will leave teams because of the schedule and races will go wherever the most money is. As well as this, while races will always be watched by hardcore fans, there's quite a few friends of mine who - when they've watched a full race - realise that watching it on Netflix may be more entertaining (despite it being way more dramatised) than following it live. Just a random thought, but the bubble could burst at some point and they don't seem like they care and are instead chasing the money - as we can see with the new circuit locations!
Exactly! Unless the newbies latch on to F1 like the actual fans then the hype will die down. They keep prioritizing the show, as it gets butts in seats. But like any show people get tired of it and watch something else. So instead of catering to the masses why not improve F1 to be the best it can. All of this puffed out chest nonsense Dominicarli, f1 bosses, team bosses, and FIA have will back fire and leave F1 in a far worse state then ever before except this time the money won’t be there.
Now, I'm a student and surrounded by nerds like myself, so my perception might be skewed. However, there are a lot of people in my social circle that's gotten into F1 by DtS, but mainly watch races now. Many will probably prefer just watching on Netflix, but some will definitely stay with races as well. It should increase the total viewership all in all, as long as the fans don't fatigue too much.
Unlikely to stay booming forever though... Time will tell
It has also never worked to anger your settled fans for a new market.
Its not hard to appease them both.
@@silverhand861 But we are working REALLY hard on fatiguing the fans too much.
That way of thinking is like the guy who says they like football but can´t sit through a whole match and just watch the game recaps on youtube later (and these people sadly exist) ^^
I would honestly love a rotating calendar. I don’t think it will happen though.
You could rotate certain track types to make sure you don’t get too stale.
Honestly I would have loved to see F1 at Long Beach. That track would have been a wild challenge for those cars.
Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi which specifically pay so much money to get sportswashed every year:
☹
Without sportswashing, real places could actually be on the calander.
0:18 My dream F1 calendar:
March
Round 1: 🇧🇭, Bahrain INTL Circuit.
Round 2: 🇸🇦, Reem INTL Circuit.
Round 3: 🇶🇦, Lusail INTL Circuit.
Round 4: 🇮🇳, Madras INTL Circuit.
April
Round 5: 🇦🇺, Albert Park.
Round 6: 🇦🇿, Baku City.
Round 7: 🇯🇵, Motegi
Round 8: 🇨🇳, Zhuhai INTL Circuit.
May
Round 9: 🇲🇾, Kuala Lumpur.
Round 10: 🇺🇸, Miami.
Round 11: 🇵🇹, Autodromo INTL Algarve.
Round 12: 🇲🇨, Monte Carlo.
June
Round 13: 🇫🇷, Bugatti Circuit Le Mans.
2 Week Break.
Round 14: 🇫🇷, Paris Street.
Round 15: 🇬🇧, Silverstone.
Round 16: 🇬🇧, London Street.
July
Round 17: 🇪🇸, Valencia Street.
Round 18: 🇳🇱, TT Circuit Assen.
Round 19: 🇩🇪, Sachsenring.
Round 20: 🇦🇹, Red Bull Ring.
1 Week Break
August
Round 21: 🇰🇷, Korea INTL Circuit.
Round 22: 🇨🇳-🇭🇰/🇲🇴
Round 23: 🇻🇳 , Hanoi.
2 Week Break
September
Round 24: 🇸🇬, Marina Bay
Round 25: 🇨🇦, Edmonton Airport Circuit
1 Week Break
October
Round 26: 🇺🇸, Dallas (Night)
Round 27: 🇺🇸, COTA
Round 28 🇲🇽 , Mexico City
November
Round 29: 🇧🇷, Sao Paulo
Round 30: 🇿🇦, Cape Town Street
Round 31: 🇦🇪, Dubai
Round 32: 🇰🇼, Kuwait Motortown
Round 33: 🇦🇪, Abu Dhabi
when they killed the "old" Hockenheim it was not nice.
but when it fell out of the calendar for good it was a heartbeat.
Imola is a great track returning to f1, very challenging to drive and overtake but a great spectacle for everyone watching.
As much as I like the old Hockenheim, the new track is pretty good as well.
@@potatogirlcultist19
Iconic Track non the less, but I love the chickanes on the old loop coming down with 350k is amazing. the only bad turn was the right turn into the stadium in sector 3.
@@thesunnynationg The right turn into sector 3 is my favourite corner on the track lol
@@potatogirlcultist19
its such an awkward corner, i can't get to grips with it.
the new one is alrightish, but the old one was very difficult.
@@thesunnynationg I think the fact that it's difficult makes it enjoyable to watch and drive on in racing games. It's a corner where good aero makes a difference. On the old layout you were really on the edge because you were running so little downforce. A driver who could really push it like Alesi or Montoya is a joy to watch through there.
Then they changed the layout and it became almost flat out, a bit like turn 9 in Cataluyna (which is probably my favourite corner in the world). The W10 was insane through there.
But I can see why you would find it awkward. It took me ages to find the correct turn in point in racing games, and after a massive straight on the old version it would have made more sense to change it to a tight corner there to allow better for better overtaking.
If everything goes the way Domenicali wants it'll be all street circuits and sprint races by 2030😂😂
The issue is street circuits are way easier to organize and make money. They are in the middle of a city so the hotels and restaurants and transportation etc is all already there. Circuits are often in the middle of nowhere and alot of them suck to be at.
And only in the US 😂
Bold of you to assume it won't be F1 Race Stars in real life
That'll be so ironic because it'll be like Pre-F1 era Grand Prix racing all over again.
Interlagos, Monza, Spa, Mexico City, Suzuka, Monaco, Singapore
Fave tracks
2:06 love the Nijnte teacup ❤
I would really like to see most of the races on the calendar alternate one year to the next. For example, instead of austin, vegas, and miami, I'd like to see austin every year then vegas and miami alternate one year to the next. Similarly a lot of european tracks could alternate for slots like turkey/azerbijan, barcelona/valencia, paul ricard/hockenhiem etc. The venues should have an easier time selling tickets because it's like the olympics or world cup where it's more special because it isn't every year.
I LOVED Monaco back in the day but the modern F1 cars are too big for quality racing there and it needs to go. Sadly but it's best for the racing.
People have been pointing out that Monaco didn't work for racing because the cars were too big for literally at least 60 years now. It's always been rubbish.
Need a set of Core races (5 to 10?), those circuits that produce good races each year. Then have a rota of other tracks that change between years.
“He’s making a a lot of friends isn’t he Domenicali” 😂😂😂 he sure does love a statement
I love Spa. It's a great track to watch the cars race at. Please don't let it go!!!
Zandvoort does have its banking as a plus point because it's unique in modern F1.
Jeddah has a banked corner as well..
American here... Vegas can produce glitz, but glam? Not so much. Hopefully the racing will be decent, but I doubt it.
Crazy to think that Silverstone, Monaco, Spa, Zandvoort, and other venues are on the chopping block now. It's like F1 is going into NASCAR's 90's phase.
2030 calender: All US cities parking lot tracks + Monaco + middle east
Thanks again for your love of Sepang 🇲🇾
Well said Tommy: Money tracks
Thank you for continuing to shed light on the horrible fan experience at Monza last year. I spent a fortune to be there and it was an enormously stressful and unpleasant ordeal
what I hate about the talk of a london street circuit is that Crystal Palace circuit existed, has heritage, is basically a set of a few streets now so could be made in to a street circuit, and wouldnt be an awfully designed modern track in the middle of london, the designers would be at least somewhat limited by the original layout and so would probably make a better track. and its not like either option is significantly more work to do, the streets of london are already not suitable for F1 cars so would need to be fully resurfaced anyway, and then the physical space for road widening for crystal palace since its in a park...
going back to the older layout and youll probably already have a good track for modern cars surprisingly, with a more intricate interior section circling the lake. maybe a track there would also bring in interest to rebuild the crystal palace its self after it was destroyed in a fire, which would be a beautiful addition to the area to have that back. I guess until then the foundation of it would serve as a place to put grandstands and so on.
This is why there should not be such a long break in the season. Matt and Tommy are great. However, even they are struggling to keep things fresh.
But seriously guys, you could have come up with something actually interesting. Like season recap so far. Do some practical things like drive an F1 car (Ferrari would be super) around Silverstone and we get your reaction. Etc.
I do enjoy Matt yelling at me and staring into my soul at the start of these videos. Quite unsettling.
I agree, no more street circuits, even though that's the way it's going.
People need to remember these track need hotels for people to stay at that are hours away and are easy for people who might be flying in to a country to watch the race and don’t have car.
F1's business model is interesting... instead of them paying to use the circuits, the circuits pay to have races. What if it were the other way round? You want to put on a show, you rent the infrastructure.
Way it works for live music… really good point
@@iplayeddsharpminor That also how it works in EVERY OTHER PROFESSIONAL SPORT (and in real life as well) in the world.
If Manchester United is going places, THEY PAY FOR IT
If the Yankees are going places, THEY PAY FOR IT
If you want to use something of another person YOU PAY FOR IT. It doesnt matter if its a car, a joint or a street.
You wanna use it, you pay.
But since we now have ALOT of sportwashing in the sport FOM/F1 was able to massively double down on this outdated, inappropriate system.
The cars are the issues, not the tracks.
Monza, Spa, Monaco,... used to be the best races of the season
Monaco almost never a good race. Only a pair of bangers happened. 1982 and 1996 are all I can name. Monaco is only there for historical significance.
Its clear you havent seen those cars back then, because back then the driver complained *JUST AS MUCH* about overtaking being hard *EVERYWHERE* as they do today.
But we have found the scapegoat (size of the cars) and can continue to not waste any real thoughts about it.
Im sorry but F2 shows pretty clearly that you only need balls to try to overtake (even in Monaco).
They are 10 cm less wide and 25cm shorter. They are legit boats as well.
I live at Kyalami, like across the road, and would love there to be an F1 race there but NOT in place of Spa and if I see another street circuit I will chunder!
Being from India, i want to see Buddh circuit back on the calendar. Seb's guest appearance here would be much appreciated, but honestly, i don't see it happening any time soon cause the Indian F1 market isn't that huge and the track has long back straight and fast corners with very less overtaking opportunities.
I hope F1 goes back to India too
Matt and Tommy are playing this really smart. Because for a while now, I sat here thinking why are they throwing out predictions for the 2026 grid and the 2030 calendar..
And then it hit me: easy content for when those years come around. "How did our 2030 predictions stack up 7 years ago?!".
2026: next set of engine regulations
2030: carbon-neutral goal and end of terrible Yas Marina’s contract
*The calendar that I would have for 2030:*
0. Silverstone (Pre-Season)
1. Albert Park *2 weeks later
2. Suzuka *1 week later (Rotating with Fuji)
3. Sepang International *1 week later
4. Buddh International *2 weeks later
5. Yas Marina *2 weeks later (Rotating with Dubai Autodrome)
6. Bahrain *1 week later
7. Jeddah *1 week later
8. Hungaroring *4 weeks later
9. Red Bull Ring *1 week later
10. Hockenheim *1 week later (Rotating with Nurbungring)
11. Spa *2 weeks later
12. Silverstone *1 week later
13. Paul Ricard *2 weeks later (Rotating with Magny Cours or Le Mans Bugatti)
14. Aragon Motorland *1 week later (Rotating with Montmelo)
15. Portimao *1 week later
16. Gilles Villeneuve *5 weeks later
17. Charlotte Motor Speedway Roval *1 week later (Rotating with Long Beach, Road America, Indianapolis Roval or Daytona Roval)
18. COTA *2 week later
19. Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez *1 week later
20. Termas de Rio Hondo *2 weeks later
21. Interlagos *1 week later
22. Kyalami *2 weeks later
*The reason for this is to reduce the distance made in transport for the teams and also have less street races and more diverse locations
*Rotating should 100% be a thing
Suzuka in early March? Jeddah in May/June?????
@@PointNemo9 yes. If you do Suzuka later in the year, the weather could get every FP session canceled and even red flag the race. Thypoons season is from May to October
@@54_ocram46 And what's your excuse for Jeddah? Jeddah in May can easily be 40°C
@@PointNemo9 races in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Abu Dhabi are at night, and the FP1 and FP3 sessions are horrible to see as no one really pushes cause the conditions are non significant. At night, the tempetures would be around 30 degress.
The only problem would be for the Formula 2 and Formula 3 drivers that race in the day, but you can easily skip this tracks (specially Jeddah in which there are a lot of crashes in F2) and race in Japan or at COTA or Portimao.
@54_ocram Still I think that is way too hot considering a lot of team preparation needs to be done in the daylight hours before the race.
Drop Vegas regardless, add Kyalami, and make major layout changes to some tracks to reduce the gaps between cars
I always think that Monaco should become "the historic gp", thus letting every team race with a special livery for that race every year, like a way to honor past teams/liveries/sponsors of those eras. Just like McLaren did with the Gulf livery. Just something that makes a little bit more exiting the Monaco GP since cars won't become smaller in year to come for overtakes.
you know you can just watch the Historic Grand Prix right
@@mikko3 They dont know that because the internet never told them that "sMaLlEr cArs" had the overtaking issues back then too.
Everywhere.
This is a silly statement. Smaller cars obviously would make a difference. Obviously overtaking will always be hard in Monaco but smaller cars will make it slightly less difficult. Regardless, like the original comment said, cars aren’t getting significantly smaller anytime soon so it’s a pointless argument to be having.
I think that this is a great idea. Never seen anyone make this suggestion before but it’s a great one imo. Nowadays Monaco is more about the unique spectacle & historic value than the racing, this would be a great way to add some fun to the weekend (and in a way that is perfectly inline with what Monaco is all about).
Mat I can tell you where the money is going. It’s going to the commercial rights holder as a lot off the circuits have very bad deals and don’t make any money out off the race. The reason Silverstone all most lost the race is because they refused to pay out on a bad deal where they don’t make any money from the race.
Loving the videos! But I miss the shortest ones. 3-5min is a perfect lenght for some quick topics!
Spa and Monza might have better racing if all the cars ran a maximum downforce setup like Indycars do at Oval tracks 🤔 that plus the DRS at those tracks, you'd get some mega speeds!
Monaco is an amazing race to visit and i don't see it being dropped.
The thing i really don't get is how spa is always almost bankrupt.
Yes hope Monaco stays for a long time
Monaco really needs to go. They pay little, they can't accommodate nearly as much as other places, and the races are frankly boring. If you aren't there, it's not worth watching.
‘Amazing race’ 😂😂
You’re the same people who moan about Las Vegas and Miami when they’re both offering more overtaking opportunities than Monaco.
Monaco is nothing without its histoey
@@suede__ "they pay little"-mind you, they only started paying to F1 around c.5 years ago or less. Before that, F1 *used to pay* Monaco to race in F1-that alone goes to show you how important was/is Monaco to F1.
Let's not forget it's every-driver's dream to win the Monaco GP, that is part of the Triple Crown of Motorsport, that even had an unique weekend system (FP1 & FP2 used to be on Thrusdays)... And, if you take it off the calendar, it'd be like taking of the Indianapolis 500 out of the IndyCar or the 24h LeMans out of the WEC.
And the fact in the video it was mentioned that Las Vegas, the most "wow they couldn't just done anything worse"-esque design, could be its replacement... Nah yeah nah, if I ever wanted to have a dull circuit with a clusterfuck of race, I'd choose Monaco x100 times over something "artificial" that has no relationship at all with F1 history nor its culture.
@@FS110999 well said
I hope someone is keeping track of all the official predictions Matt and Tommy keep making, feels like every other week there's a new one...
Whilst everyone are throwing street circuits out there, let's have iconic circuits in the world. Bathurst, Laguna Seca
Yes plz Street circuits I genuinely think are only good for artificial entertainment just like sprint weekends
If it was only the drivers making a stand in the event of a 28+ race calendar, maybe a compromise from the FIA could be to introduce some kind of rule where each team has to field their "reserve" driver for X amount of races per season. It'd be a means of helping a reserve driver gain actual racing experience whilst retaining a "fair" workload on the "main" two drivers.
It would be problematic though for constructors, more so the backmarker teams who maybe have a smaller workforce, as their staff are more likely to tire from an extended calendar than, say, RB/Ferrari/Mercedes who could potentially rotate some of their staff.
Kyalami should 100% be on the calendar though, and Monaco needs binning. There's been regulation changes over time to encourage on-track overtaking, which Monaco sadly negates, making the race feel redundant.
It'd be a shame to lose Spa as it is one of my favourite tracks. But I think sadly the writing is on the wall for it, maybe not forever, but for a significant number of years.
I'd love to see Cota binned off the calendar too but I know that won't happen!
No one missed Kyalami for the past 20 years, so it should never be even considered to swap it with Spa.
I want Kyalami on the calendar, but only when there is room
Jup.
Imho Kyalami needs to be on the calender - for it is a PRUPOSE BUILT CIRCUT, with huge history and an extended list of already great races.
But maybe get rid of the BIKE TRACK Qatar?
The deathtrap Saudi?
The abomination Las Vegas (for real, unlike the former two the US has REAL CIRCUTS, with REAL motorsport history, why THIS bullcrap? Its literally a 2 hour "sightseeing show" with the problem that Vegas has NOTHING TO SIGHTSEE, but glass panels and fancy lights)
Imola (as much as i love Italy, as much as i love this track in specifically, Monza > Imola, plus its only there to make it to 23 races)
Hungary (despite being on the calender since forever i dont know anyone besides me enjoying the Hungaroring on a regular basis)
Singapore - for it is a replica of monaco
Netherlands - Commercially a bigger plus than on track
But removing Spa for it? hell naaaaaaaaw. You dont DOWNGRADE your calender. And you dont try to sell a DOWNGRADE to your long hardened fans as "the best we can do".
Also
Las Vegas
Las Vegas
Las Vegas
Las Vegas
All deserve to me removed immediately
Why is it even that it perse has to replace spa and not any other race? I mean, I get the monetary reasons, but come on, do we really need to be shit like fifa? It's disgraceful
1:34 it should be the same for money.
Just because you can pay a lot of money doesn't mean you get a GP
unless there is a rennovation like there was at silverstone in 2010 Spa won't survive. It needs big investment.
cutting out large sections of the circuit may help with maintenance and improve racing
A Cape Town street circuit that could incorporate the Nelson Mandela Way would be quite good to be fair.
Inner city Cap Town roads are wide enough and are of a good enough quality WITH elevation changes too to warrant it.
Also the backdrop of Table Mountain would be amazing.
No Monaco sounds insane. It'd be like no Daytona 500 for NASCAR or no 24 hours of Le Mans for the WEC.
Personally feel that F1 should keep countries from where the team is from, for example, germany for mercedes as well as a country for the drivers, like monaco for charles or finland for bottas :)
And a race in kyalami so that it will actually be a 'world championship'
What about COTA? Didn't hear you mention it.
Street tracks are interesting to me because they are so much different than a traditional track and allow the "track" to operate for just that event maybe a few others afterwards then be torn down and not have to sit there trying to make money for the rest of the year. (Why spa is struggling) I would love to see the likes of Watkins Glen, VIR, and Sebring come to F1 tho none of them are grade 1
They need to sub in Nurburgring, Brno, Algarve, and (I’m dreaming here) Watkins Glen or Road Atlanta. Ditch Baku and Monaco for starters.
30 race season, mandatory break for drivers (ie have to miss 5 races minimum) meaning reserve drivers must be used to cover when driver 1 & 2 are on break.
Not that anyone would care, but these are what I would make the perfect calendar....
Australia, Bahrein, Bahrein "Almost Oval", Monaco, Canada, Imola, Portamao, Austria, Baku, Nurbergring, Silverstone, Budapest, Spa, Monza, Jeddah, Sazuka, Sepang, Shanghai, COTA, Sao Paulo. And that's enough. Maybe add Istanbul...?
Would love to see Kyalami back. It was the very first track I went to to see an F1 race live, and it was the last race there. I still have very fond memories of that weekend and it was that weekend that sparked my full interest in F1. I did watch some races in the years before, but have watched every race since that weekend. But unfortunately never Kyalami again.
With all the interest, I'd go with a few pillars of the sport that are there every year, think of Monaco, Silverstone, Monza & Spa (as example) and probably a few more. And have a pool of 30 tracks that rotate every other year or so.
There are a few different types of tracks I've noticed since starting to watch F1. Some tracks fit into multiple categories. There are money tracks, like those in the Middle East, which really only exist to pay for the sports. There are spectacle tracks, like Miami and probably Vegas, which are there to increase the bombast of the sport. There are classic tracks, like Monza and Spa, which are fun to watch and have a great sense of history. Then there are fan/'modern' tracks, I'd say. Not just street circuits, but tracks that are much easier to enjoy in person due to better parking, newer facilities and stuff like that. Think COTA and Canada. Silverstone seems to be quite pleasant to go to from what I here, so that's both kind of a modern/fan track and a classic track as well.
I wouldn’t hate it if there was a LIV Golf type of racing category to compete with F1. Liberty Media is getting out of hand.
According to some people that are associated to the Australian Grand Prix Corporation. The long extension was potentially due to the chaos caused by the 2020 Australian Grand Prix where it was cancelled the morning on Friday. To avoid legal costs, Liberty agreed to a long term contract so the losses and break of contract by liberty could be recovered by the Australian Grand Prix Corporation over a number of years.
Kyalami would be great but it is so narrow so overtaking would be really difficult. Might be possible from 2026 onwards if they get the smaller car designs they're talking about. And I'm with Tommy - I need more Sepang in my life!
Portugal and Turkey would be nice to see again, as well as Germany
Portugal, Turkey, Malaysia, Germany... dropping Singapore, Las Vegas, Qatar and Abu Dhabi. Just as a starter. 😄
@@soundscape26 Are you still hate Singapore, Qatar, and Abu Dhabi? I just agree with you about Miami and Las Vegas, despite you not mention Miami.
@@RadityaPramanaPutra2001 I need a couple more races in Miami to have a better opinion on it. Last year was okayish but the TV broadcast sucked.
@@soundscape26 Oh, so that's why you not mention Miami at first? Alright.
@@soundscape26 good point. The TV broadcast can ruin it or make it. I remember seeing a Japanese GP where they showed the only Japanese Driver all the time, in 17th place, missing ALL the action.
If F1 had too lose a track I believe Monaco should go the way of the Dodo, unless they make the F1 cars way smaller because right now it's like watching an 18 wheeler drive down a British backroad(narrow country lanes).
I've always wondered whether there is some way they could run a flexible calendar. If they have 20 to 25 races there will always be more desirable venues than can fit on the calendar, and I don't think any more than 25 is pheasable. So what about a foundation of venues, 10 or 15 regulars who sign up for annual races as they do now, but then the other slots are made up of groups. These groups get 1 race every 3 or 4 years for example.
Cons - there may be big complications with schedules. Some venues may not agree on rotations of years etc.
But the pros -
1, it creates what is essentially a 'new' track for half of the races as teams will have limited data due to time since the last race there, as well as some drivers who will have never raced that venue.
2, allows venues to share the cost to a third or quarter.
3, allows f1 to visit more countries and regions without an unreasonable number of races.
Admittedly it won't all be cost saving as venues still have to maintain their categorisation for years where they won't be holding races but it does allow venues to get the benefits to the circuit, local community and country but for a much smaller fee.
Thoughts?
I think the reason for circuits to be struggling is that they have higher costs due to them being permanent venues that have yearly running and maintenance costs. Obviously there's other races there too but clearly it's not enough to break even.
Meanwhile street circuits just need government approval and some streets getting blocked for around 3 weeks, building up and taking down the circuit. No extra costs. Probably very cheap to run compared to the permanent tracks.
I think ideally what they should start doing is if they're going to move towards more street circuits make more street circuits that are like Albert Park: street circuits with wide roads and runoff at sharp corners and chicanes for good overtaking opportunities and less punishment for mistakes.
I'd say Spa stopped providing bangers because of DRS. Many of the overtaking opportunities the track provides aren't worth taking anymore because you'd be giving DRS to your opponent in the next DRS zone, and the overtakes we get in DRS zones are boring because DRS makes it too easy.
I’d love to see a purpose build New Jersey track with the New York City skyline in the background
Not gonna happen. They tried it once with a streetcircuit and plans fell through.
@@Locormus2 don’t kill my dreams
I wondered why Imola has a race given there’s already a race in Italy and the racing isn’t necessarily that great. Then I looked at where Domenicali is from and it all made sense.
11:40 yes, no more street tracks
tommy and matt, in keeping with f1 we race as one theme, do a calendar of tracks which match the theme, now that would be an exercise wont it.
I think it is one thing to think of which courses might be on the F1 calendar but the big question is if we will be able to access all circuits on F130. Would be nice if code masters and EA sports allows us to have access to all race tracks ever used including a few wild cards like Bathurst
They should keep Monza but go back to the layout last used in 1971 as the races in 1969, 1970 and 1971 have great racing. They should keep Suzuka and Monaco but make them night races.
We need the staple curcuits that stay every year but most tracks should rotate
At 26 races, they'd be racing every 2 weeks for the whole year, with no breaks. The only way to have a winter and summer break would be to have several back to back weekends.
I think 18 - 20 is a good number, especially given the cost cap, and powertrain limitations.
Canada could be considered a favourite for some fan. Also, let's be honest, as long as Lawrence has the influence he currently has on the F1 org, Canada will stay.
LMFAOOO
You really overestimate the "power" of random Lawrence Stroll.
Hes just some random Team Owner. And hes one of 5 (!) real car manufacturers in the sport right now (Mercedes, Ferrari, Renault - Aston, Mclaren).
Aston is by far the company with the least influence. And they the smallest of the 5 (until Godfather Stroll came they didnt sold more than 7000 (yes, THOUSAND) road cars per year).
Ferrari has written their influence IN RULES (and payments//although i think they have run out or doing so in the near future), Mercedes is just the stereotypical german car manufacturer (fast, solid, but we should check the emissions), Renault are French - for better or for worse, and McLaren is just liked by many people.
Stroll has nothing to do with the Canadian track being on the calender, but if hes living rent free in so many places one can understand where he got the money to buy the entire company.
If you want to point at one individual that is the reason why Circut X is on the Calender, i give you a few names:
- Emily Prazer
- Mohammed bin Salman
- Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani
im canadian and i agree that no one here cares about lance stroll lol
@@gandalf_thegrey Stroll is part owner of the montreal circuit. He will pay up to keep his circuit in the calendar.
Why does F1 need extortionate track fees that CANNOT be gained back with a sold out weekend?
I dunno, lets make a spec V10 series with no DRS, big rear wings for a good draft and racing exclusively on F1 appropriate tracks. There, I said it.
I agree with the points made about Spa. How can such an epic circuit continuously provide sub-par racing?
I like Monaco cause of the aesthetic, it doesn't really bother me that much that there isn't that much overtaking usually. If it rains in Monaco anything can still happen
Ideally there should be a race on each continent, but also there should be interchangeable circuits.
like out of the 23 races:
8 should be interchangeable every year (5 tracks like Miami, Las Vegas, China and 3 legacy tracks Monaco)
10 main tracks that are actual race tracks that provide good racing
5 track that bring in money like the bahrein, Abu Dhabi etc.
I can't see a race in Antarctica happening to be honest.
@@rocket69218 😂 you know what I mean! No wait, didn’t verstappen and rbr once do a icy snowy mountain sprint race video?! 🤔🫨 now I want an Antarctic gp😂
@@bynahelemaal 😂 Yeah, I knew, just having a laugh. I'm glad you took it as it was intended. It would spice it up for sure, Pirelli snow&ice tyres, snow traps in the run offs. 😆
Spa is suffering lately because its always an easy 1 stop. There is zero strategy, so there's not a lot of times where cars are in different points in their respective stints allowing for racing opportunities .
Also, the length of the track means laps under the Safety car are eating up a far larger percent of the race distance.
When I saw the video I said to myself these guys are reaching for F1 content but it ended up being an interesting video 😂
The most important question is what will Matty and Tommy look like in 2030.
Not a fan of the new audio mix. Slightly to Left/Right in the stereo field is fine, sounding like an early 60s stereo recording not so much...
Not sure if you read comments, but I'd be interested in your opinion about the Hungary GP.
It is a narrow and hard to overtake track, but it is fun to drive and the gravel traps are punishing.
The last Hungarian driver was Zsolt Baumgartner for Minardi in 2004, and he was struggling to even finish races. The local economy is not capable of sustaining a race (weekend tickets cost an average monthly salary for locals), the weather is 40+ degrees with no shade in sight awful for fans, most of them are German and other European tourists. The traffic for the race is totally broken, even though the track is next to a motorway, they haven't figured out parking yet, by 10AM usually all parking is comlpetely full, and officials have no idea where to send the thousands of cars still arriving.
At the moment Hungary (officially the promoter, but its basically government funded) pays a yearly fee of $45M, the same as AbuDhabi pays for hosting the season finale, just to stay on the calendar. There is a deal for a few more years, but I'm wondering if in this changing F1 landscape there is still a spot for a Hungarian GP?
Watkins Glen could be cool as well
My view is this
Im sick if all these street circuits getting added
I want to see the best cars being driven by the best drivers, on the best circuits
Whether that means a few historic circuits have to go be it
But i dont want to loose a circuit like spa, or suzuka for sake of street circuit in NewYork or London
Spa for Kyalami, ill make that deal everytime
The backstretch at Spa with the DRS is their killer
Australia and Canada is my favorite to drive on the F1 game. My pace Vs the AI is amazing on these two tracks
I can see 25 races, the only way I see F1 adding another American track is if it is in NYC.
Also have to say I don't get the obsession with Monaco. Everyone bitched about Miami being boring but you rarely hear anything about the 1 overtake Monaco race...
They can't take away Monza dude...the podium alone is worth the experience there!
Love your guy’s videos