Classic vs Modern Showdown: '69 Land Rover vs '16 Range Rover - Epic Race Up Powerline Hill!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Join us on an exhilarating off-road adventure as Justin and Erik put two iconic Land Rovers to the ultimate test in a race against time and terrain! In one corner, we have the classic 1969 Land Rover Series IIa A symbol of rugged durability and timeless design. In the other, the modern marvel that is the 2016 Range Rover L405 Supercharged, boasting cutting-edge technology and unmatched luxury.
Our battleground? The iconic Winter Romp Trail, famously known as Powerline Hill. This challenging off-road obstacle is the perfect proving ground to see which of these Land Rover legends can navigate the treacherous terrain the fastest.
Will the classic charm and proven resilience of the 1969 Series II prevail, or will the modern prowess and power of the 2016 Range Rover take the lead? Watch as Justin and Erik discuss the unique features and capabilities of their respective vehicles, share their strategies, and then go head-to-head in this thrilling race up Powerline Hill.
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For the next race try a Porsche versus a VW Beetle. That might be closer.
Aren't they kind of the same thing?
Guys! L405 Mystery: how does Auto Terrain Response choose modes? I haven't been able to find answers. In winter I manually select modes because Auto likes to enable "Grass/Gravel/Snow" on dry pavement.
Short answer is that is proprietary, Land Rover, off-road technology.
What rock sliders are those on the L405? Is it direct fit or mod to fit, if mod what is required for welding?
Very good eye my friend. Those are the prototype rock sliders. We will be releasing them shortly. They are direct bolt on, no welding required.
The modern Land Rover guys who buy a "Series truck" as a quaint accessory for their collection are clueless to the easy potential for REAL off road capability. (This was Subaru terrain).
Given two weekends worth of work, including lockers, skid plate, sliders, and removing the hard top, That modest series IIA will climb rock ledges and staircases that the new generation IFS/IRS Land Rovers simply cannot without building a whole new subframe assembly under them, along with other extensive mods and 37" tires. Even then, there will be some really steep climbs that the new stuff, even with these extensive mods, just won't follow the old iron up. I have watched people dump lots of time trying to prove the superiority of the new generation, but when things get really rough, they just can't hang. It was really funny watching the guys from Colorado brag about "conquering the Rubicon" in a new Defender L663..... They built a whole new sub-frame under that thing, 37" tires, and I watched it struggle...........And take bypasses !! And it broke..... I live out there and My little old Land Rover does harder trails than the Rubicon, driving to the trail and back.... If you doubt this, I have a stock leaf springs, stock (7.50-16) tire 1958 series I 88" that is ready and willing to eat😁
There's a lot going on in that message but I'm just gonna focus on the important stuff. We're all driving Rovers.
That's the sad part, we kinda aren't. I got into daily driving / wheeling Land Rovers back in the 1980's. I have watched the history unfold over nearly 40 years, and have become basically alienated by a new crowd that considers series vehicles to be quaint, cute relics, and that the current products are a modern interpretation........ They are not related. Land Rovers were Commercial, Industrial, and Military vehicles, and were FAR from cutting edge tech in the 1940's !! You cannot twist or spin an "interpretation" that far....
These modern vehicles are great for what they are, but they are not direct descendants of the Series / real Defenders, The original concept was completely abandoned and the brand name was attached to a completely different vehicle concept and market. That's not evolution, that's marketing, my friend !!! @@Lucky8
I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here. Firstly, comparing a highly modified car to a standard one isn't quite fair. If we level the playing field and compare stock versions - a classic Series against a new Defender with any engine configuration - the new Defender outshines the classic on both road and off-road, except in very specific scenarios. For instance, in tight, narrow trails, the classic's slim build of the Series is advantageous, and in rare cases where weight is a concern, the Series might have the upper hand. However, for general off-roading, the stock new Defender excels.
When it comes to modifications, the Series is indeed more adaptable and can significantly outperform when modified. While my Series runs on slightly oversized tires and is a joy to drive, it's not my choice for long highway drives, like a trip to a Land Rover event in Virginia. Conversely, when I had a Discovery 1 on 37-inch tires, it was surprisingly more highway-friendly. Not that I wanted to drive that 12 hours on the Thruway. It found itself on a trailer for those trips.
The newer models, despite being less mod-friendly, excel in comfort and performance in almost every aspect. It's great that Land Rover continues to thrive and innovate. While many of us romanticize classic vehicles, the reality of owning and daily driving one often doesn't match the dream. Kudos to you for daily driving yours.
I've been daily driving mine since the 1980's, so not a recent romantic fling for me. The point I'm making is that with VERY FEW upgrades that are generally much simpler and less expensive, the short wheel base series Land Rover can completely out class the new generation ones in virtually all off road scenarios.. I've seen it play out on many occasions out west in the bigger rocky stuff. I've driven several PURE STOCK OPEN DIFF series thru the Rubicon, and it was nowhere near as tough on the vehicle as it is on the late models.
The late models off road party trick is well suited to your east coast slippery, muddy, snowy but generally very mild off roading compared with the western terrain. The electronic aids work well in the mild slippy stuff, compared to a open diff stock straight axle Rover.
I couldn't give a rats' ass about heated seats, climate control, and other luxury features. I grew up in Alaska with 55 below zero winters, and really long distance drives. I know what truly harsh conditions are, and the very last vehicle I would want to depend on would be a late model Land Rover !!!
The reality is that most of you guys wouldn't be into Land Rovers if it wasn't for the luxury boats that they became....It just blows me away that these luxuries are now necessities, and people cringe at driving any distance without them... The driving aids give you a false sense of security and are all good until the going gets really tough, then it's all over, trust me, I've seen this play out ....
There is a reason why Land Rovers are laughed at here in the western states. Their owners are always crowing about how great they are, but whenever they actually take them off road on serious trails, they are famous for having lots of problems...... There is a real stigma attached to the brand out here..... And with the typical arrogant attitudes of the owners, it is well earned.
I'm sorry that I am from a different time and place in Land Rover history. I wish it had turned out better. Even though modern Jeeps are too fancy for me, they at least have good bones, didn't completely trash their past like Land Rover and totally dominate off road for good reason. There is really no comparison and modern Land Rovers are hopelessly out classed by modern Jeeps.
A parting analogy...... The WWII fighter plane flying in tandem with an F16 at an airshow.
Like the WWII plane, the modern Land Rover is maxed out , not much improvement left on the table when trail riding with the older Rover, and like the F16, the older Rover is just getting started with it's performance.
Sorry for the long rant, I'm an old time enthusiast that has gotten tired of the way the "serious" late model guys trivialize the old Rovers, and constantly chat about how much more capable the new ones are.
Try drinking a latte while attempting to follow my stock tire, stock suspension series I up Papa Smurf trail in Sand Hollow, Utah......@@Lucky8
We will both have plenty of time to drink, lattes as neither vehicles in stock form are going to make Papa Smurf without taking bypasses.
The new defender will be on its side, and I can hear all of the axles breaking in the 10 spline system as soon as you get wheelspin in the Series
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Perhaps it's your 56k modem?
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Time to upgrade that blackberry
@@Lucky8 unfortunately
@@landrovererik4749 of yeah it's from 90s