J Sai Deepak - the God's Advocate in the Sabarimala Case is now the Kashmiri Pandit's (in a manner of speaking) advocate. Always in awe of his articulation.
Whenever we discuss about the Valley, then we must not forget it's significant region called Ladakh. Because they are main victims of all the issues going on in Kashmir. This is the main reason that they are demanding Union Territory status, means they want to separate from the Valley based government. Ladakh importance must be considered whenever we are dealing with the issues of the state J&K....... Thanks RSTV for including Ladakh in your discussion, especially for Mr. Advocate Sir.......!
Congratulations Valley boy!! Ur wishes r granted... Ur land is mesmerising!! I though, at the same time hope Laddakh doesn't get overpopulated...n despite the growth that ll come... The wilderness stays.
Rana Banerjee only played with words and had no substance... Mr Sushil Pandit showed great light on the issue and I don't think much need to be said about j Sai Deepak
Mr. Sai Deepak is a right man at right place. He knows his subject well. It is always very enlightening to hear him speak. With due respect to Mr. Pandit and his grip over the knowledge of the issue. He shouldn't have given the debate a 'personal touch' reflecting his emotional bias towards this Kashmiri issue.
Good to listen to this debate when 370 has gone just by a great move by Government. There is no scope of consensus before removing 370 given it can affect livelihood of many politicians. They won't let it happen
Sai deepak addresses the core issues very well which should be taken into cognizance, politically there couldn't be any soln bcoz kashmiri separatists never stands upto national importance talkings, best way to deal with this is to be through litigations for women empowerment and minority rights.
how about 'smashing' the 'anti national' article 370 for good and not bringing up the rhetoric of 'we are the only ones who can do it' everytime a national election comes calling
I really like the points *"Rights of women's in J& K"* that J.Sai.Deepak pointed out....He is such a knowledgeable(Lawable😃) person...deep knowledge of law and judiciary....👍
It was a pleasure to hear all of them. Since there are many who are impressed by Mr. Sai Deepak, I would like to point out that Mr. Rana banerjee is coming from an implementation point of view. Getting a court to pass an order is one thing but the government there to comply would be another task altogether (as we see in sabarimala case, easy to pass judgement but no so easy to implement). He hence mentions "finesse". Mr Sai Deepak & Mr. Pandit on the other hand, are urging to do what is right. Have the courage to do what is right, take a step forward. But then, a bureaucrat lie Mr. banerjee is not what we needed. We thought a leader like modi could do it. A unanimous win would do it. Will the govt deliver?
Sushil Pandit's arguments and facts gave much deeper insights of the stand of our national fathers on this issue and other atrocities happening in Kashmir on minorities.
Hats off to J Sai Deepak, the way he put forward the whole issue on Article 35A. He is an epitome of clear thinking....See howz a retired cabinet secretary rank officer of GOI dilly dallying the things....
What.. That Mr. Bandopadhyay misquoted Article 370 as a special status, others had to correct him. He seemed almost ignorant to sufferings of people of Ladakh and Jammu.. What are you talking about bhakts re, Sushil Pandit is himself a Kashmiri Pandit he did not even mention what happened to his family..
@@sjtshewalepatil yeah let's just ignore the broader point he was trying to make because he faltered in a few technicalities. Good going... and he wasn't ignorant to their sufferings, he himself mentioned that it can be a starting point for the gradual revocation of 370.
@@ishanmishra9383 Bandopadhyay is polarizing the issue.. It's not just Kashmir involvement in Article 370 leh kadak and Jammu is suffering as well.. Nobody is least concerned about them..
first India needs to solve it's problem from within before traveling across the world.. who is this deepak ji, of late i began to admire him more and more. Nice to listen while a good lawyer like you are in this show... #Tharoorji and Deepakji 👍👍
Mr. Rana banarji was present as a true civil servant, 370 has become a part and parcel of j&k and taking away it abruptly will create a lot of uproar considering the volatility of valley ( it will be much more if it happens under nda government you know what I mean!!) and it will also give an opportunity for the separatist and non state actors to get in and create ruckus, an approach of continuous dilution and phasing out the provision would be a much better solution rather than taking it away completely.
Such coercive arguments by Mr Rana Banerji highlight what made the issue persist for such a long time. Its saddening to know how such ill informed and biased bureaucrats can make country suffer so much. Congress Party is to be blamed for deliberate perversion of constitutional machinery to further their political agenda. Mr Rana was made secretary under UPA-I and now heads the task force on Intelligence Reforms at IDSA (Institute for Defence Studies).
What is this consensus consensus. Does he want a plebescite in the state. The instrument of accession was unconditional. They didn't sign it to ensure their indigenous identity is intact rather they were facing an existential threat from Pakistan. Few year later Abdullah convinced Nehru for the special provision. The fact that all this is coming from a former govt official that too at such high post is scary.
u seem to have a serious problem with bongs as seen in ur other comments as well..so take some action ..how about starting with ur bosses who use nationalist slogans as a political tool written by a bong...the person they hail as the 'first real PM' of India who is a bong...and needless to say stop using the name of the person who formed the party from which the present day BJP emerged - a bong.
Sai Deepak ripped the narrative of victimhood to shreds , I hope to see him in the supreme Court bench in the future(unless his appointment is politicised), also mr.banerjee has the traits of a successful diplomat , people are undermining his qualities that are perhaps needed to be a successful bureaucrat in the future.
What Gives the authority to Rana Banerji to unilaterally and arbitrarily project that the "special" status supersedes the "Temporary " nature of Article 370. I find this argument to be outrageous.
Something seems amiss with Rana Banerji who says that something that was temporary and transitory now has no validity should still be retained based on public perception.how can it's dismissal be Dictatorial ?
Article 370 , 35A will be like at some point of time we give medicine to cure disease , but now it become a poison for them . - political interests of kashmiri politicians VS political interest of central govt. - Is Article 35A is beneficial for Local people , what is its relevance in 2019 ? - if anything happened in kashmir , its echo you can hear in whole world .
Here i see the cabinet secretary talking in positive way but others arguments r too important so we need to include the cabinet secretary sir point .....for civil service. ...
Repealing article 370 and 35A for the whole of J&K, while creating an autonomous district of Kashmir in the line of Gorkha Hill Council with special features protecting the rights of Kashmiris could be thought off. Efforts to win the heart and mind of people of Kashmir should be done. Greater developmental work, skill development, job creation must be promoted. Greater assimilation of Kashmiri youth to the culture, more involvement of Kashmiri youth in the movie industry, cricket can increase their belongingness. Simply repealing 370 and 35A without countermeasures could be disastrous.
Factual and legal arguments strongly give sound grounds to repeal Article 370. To say the least, it is a highly discriminatory provision, especially against women.
Rana Bannerji sir.. He put things in historical perspective and gives logical view about J&K. The need is to strengthen article 370 rather its abrogation.
J sai sir cannot turn blind to the fact that honourable High Court of j and k has already pronounced redressal mechanism in place regarding rights of women
I don't know upto which extend a judicial rule will be accepted. Chance of politicising such an issue is high,as it happened in Sabarimala issue... Let central government come forward and take some measures to struck down this article by considering with all political parties within and outside J&K😀
I think for a counter point they should also have invited a Kashmiri Muslim to hear their perspective.... why are they sticking on to Article 370 and Article 35A
No wonder why 70 years pass but temporary seems to be more than permanent.....Just look Rana Banarji kind of people were Special Secretaries reached this post with the help of Banerjees and Like minded British left over
if article 370 would have been the remedy for aspiration of the people of valley , situation would have been better...the fact of the matter is separatists and misguided youths of valley want to turn the state into a islamic caliphate nation which they call as their "aspiration" and we as a fool are thinking of the real meaning of the word "temporary" in article 370...
People in Jammu region and Ladakh rEGION are totally misrepresented in the overall "Narrative" Created by Communal forces from the valley of Kashmir who are totally Sunni Racist Muslims and can't live with any people of diferent caste or religion. For Example "Valmiki' people if they rise socially they no more are Citizens of the State of Jammu and Kashir , what can be a greater Travesty ? Humanity is Greater than any Religion. Isn't it ?
The most important part of the discussion came towards the end. Let's ensure the women right, right of minorities n dalits , aspirations of ladakhi people at the start. Direct hard stance approach may not b so fruitful perhaps. Good to see DIVERSE OPINION which is lacking in some other programs of Rstv in recent times.
Kashmir is a complex issue since 9 October 1947. Why debate before elections? Is govt. Running from their promise of 15 lakh, farmer suicides, NRC of Assam, Babri Masjid, Demonitisation, Rafale . If J.L Nehru didn't abrogate , why you? Although he was the owner!!!
What about Gilgit, Baltistan, Northern Areas, PoK...if J&K Assembly an have 22 seats reserved for them (87 elected + 2 nominated + 22 vacant = 111)then why not Parliament? Why cannot the President of India nominate exiles from those areas and make them MPs.?? All voices have to be represented and heard in the Parliament
Love him or hate him
But you can't avoid the brilliancy and articulation of J Sai Deepak Sir
👌👌👌
No reason to hate him unless one is too bigoted or can't digest facts
J Sai Deepak - the God's Advocate in the Sabarimala Case is now the Kashmiri Pandit's (in a manner of speaking) advocate. Always in awe of his articulation.
Always a pleasure to hear J sai deepak.
Sai Deepak is magic!
Susheel Pandit no less!
Hiiii...Alo pal
Hi ;)
Whenever we discuss about the Valley, then we must not forget it's significant region called Ladakh. Because they are main victims of all the issues going on in Kashmir. This is the main reason that they are demanding Union Territory status, means they want to separate from the Valley based government. Ladakh importance must be considered whenever we are dealing with the issues of the state J&K....... Thanks RSTV for including Ladakh in your discussion, especially for Mr. Advocate Sir.......!
@MLone Sadiq I am also from the District Kargil.......! We must not forget that 1+1=11
Congratulations Valley boy!! Ur wishes r granted... Ur land is mesmerising!! I though, at the same time hope Laddakh doesn't get overpopulated...n despite the growth that ll come... The wilderness stays.
Congratulations you got UT
What an articulation and clarity of thought Sai Deepak has!! Stupendous!:)
I can listen mr. j sai deepak every day at any time..
listen his others talk too in dharmik matters
@@govindKumar-yh6it where I can get that.?
ruclips.net/video/7QjFUndnWDs/видео.html see this and search j sai deepak only his all speeches are fantastic
J sai Deepak is a rockstar of Indian judiciary...,✌️✌️👌👌👌👌
"J sai deepak sir" is so logical and Rational.... it's a pleasure to hear him....
Rana Banerjee only played with words and had no substance... Mr Sushil Pandit showed great light on the issue and I don't think much need to be said about j Sai Deepak
Frank Rausan Pereira is Amazed by J Sai Deepak knowledge on legal matters.
Mr. Sai Deepak is a right man at right place. He knows his subject well. It is always very enlightening to hear him speak.
With due respect to Mr. Pandit and his grip over the knowledge of the issue. He shouldn't have given the debate a 'personal touch' reflecting his emotional bias towards this Kashmiri issue.
Pleasure to hear J Sai Deepak Everytime
yeah ..good j. sai deepak start with empower women of j&k well point.
I am very much agree with SUSHIL SIR AND SAI DEEPAK sir ...
It's important to remove 370 for development of india and j&k as well...
Arguments in favour of article were weak.....RS tv next time ..For discussion on kashmir issue....Call SHAH FAESAL to debate
akshay ugale J. Sai Deepak will destroy him....
@@shreyanshsingh7802 Its not about who destroys whom Its all about getting a deeper insight on the issue
@@sreekanthpillai7778 true..!!
@@sreekanthpillai7778 rightly said . Healthy n detailed discussion is more important than bashing each other.
No politicians allowed here
Good to listen to this debate when 370 has gone just by a great move by Government.
There is no scope of consensus before removing 370 given it can affect livelihood of many politicians. They won't let it happen
I wanna hear Panelist Jai Deepak speaking endlessly
He speaks as much he actively listens. :-)
Sai deepak addresses the core issues very well which should be taken into cognizance, politically there couldn't be any soln bcoz kashmiri separatists never stands upto national importance talkings, best way to deal with this is to be through litigations for women empowerment and minority rights.
Mr. J Sai Deepak as always this time also you nailed it!! Man knowledge ho apni field mein toh like you man.👍👍
J Sai Deepak Sir
Really you have an amazing ability of presenting yourself 👌🏻👌🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
It seems Amit Shah had a cup of tea with J Sai Deepak on the evening of 4 August...
This video should be titled 'Sai Deepak SMASHES - Ant-National' or something.
That look after his point was put through, @19:46
how about 'smashing' the 'anti national' article 370 for good and not bringing up the rhetoric of 'we are the only ones who can do it' everytime a national election comes calling
His #ofcourse ✌🙌
I really like the points *"Rights of women's in J& K"* that J.Sai.Deepak pointed out....He is such a knowledgeable(Lawable😃) person...deep knowledge of law and judiciary....👍
It was a pleasure to hear all of them. Since there are many who are impressed by Mr. Sai Deepak, I would like to point out that Mr. Rana banerjee is coming from an implementation point of view. Getting a court to pass an order is one thing but the government there to comply would be another task altogether (as we see in sabarimala case, easy to pass judgement but no so easy to implement). He hence mentions "finesse". Mr Sai Deepak & Mr. Pandit on the other hand, are urging to do what is right. Have the courage to do what is right, take a step forward. But then, a bureaucrat lie Mr. banerjee is not what we needed. We thought a leader like modi could do it. A unanimous win would do it. Will the govt deliver?
Article 370 must be removed with immediate effect from Indian constitution and should be ended the autonomy of Jammu and Kashmir...
J Sai inspires me to study law and constitution.
Frank parera🙏 for such difficult debate such a good conduct.. Our arms open for kashmiri and kashmir remove these articles and move toward development
Advocate Deepak argument is simply great
Sushil Pandit's arguments and facts gave much deeper insights of the stand of our national fathers on this issue and other atrocities happening in Kashmir on minorities.
Awesome 👍 Deepak analysis
Hats off to J Sai Deepak, the way he put forward the whole issue on Article 35A. He is an epitome of clear thinking....See howz a retired cabinet secretary rank officer of GOI dilly dallying the things....
Thanks Frank for the usual.
Its good to see Mr Banerjee on the panel. RSTV is actually doing something to bring out diverse views on the show.
True. Some dumbfucks are calling him naxal etc. Bhakts everywhere, not able to use this amazing organ called Brain.
So true man! Andh bhakts bro
What..
That Mr. Bandopadhyay misquoted Article 370 as a special status, others had to correct him.
He seemed almost ignorant to sufferings of people of Ladakh and Jammu..
What are you talking about bhakts re, Sushil Pandit is himself a Kashmiri Pandit he did not even mention what happened to his family..
@@sjtshewalepatil yeah let's just ignore the broader point he was trying to make because he faltered in a few technicalities. Good going...
and he wasn't ignorant to their sufferings, he himself mentioned that it can be a starting point for the gradual revocation of 370.
@@ishanmishra9383 Bandopadhyay is polarizing the issue..
It's not just Kashmir involvement in Article 370 leh kadak and Jammu is suffering as well..
Nobody is least concerned about them..
I can understand from this debate due to highest bureaucracy (like benarjee sir) India maintain democratic values.thank you sir.
This is the way, every news channel should organize the debate
Always look forward to listen to M j Sai Deepak...
sushil pandit points were execption ...wat a points hatsoff really impressive sir
When Article 371 Can be removed from Hyderabad Telangana State in 2014. if political will is there it can be removed
I like to hear Mr. J Sai Deepak very much as his concepts can shut the mouth of many law contractors in the judiciary.
Nice debate Frank♥️👌....
Also very well talking comes from J Sai Deepak sir....
Ty RSTV keep going...
first India needs to solve it's problem from within before traveling across the world.. who is this deepak ji, of late i began to admire him more and more. Nice to listen while a good lawyer like you are in this show...
#Tharoorji and Deepakji 👍👍
Mr. Rana banarji was present as a true civil servant, 370 has become a part and parcel of j&k and taking away it abruptly will create a lot of uproar considering the volatility of valley ( it will be much more if it happens under nda government you know what I mean!!) and it will also give an opportunity for the separatist and non state actors to get in and create ruckus, an approach of continuous dilution and phasing out the provision would be a much better solution rather than taking it away completely.
sushil pandit's facts are awesome.
great person
Thank you Rstv
When Sai speaks, go back to normal from 1.5X
Like a boss 😎
Being a ladakhi i think that Art 370 became a permanent provision.
We ladakhi r nt islamizing it but i think that u r belonging to that group which main aim is to divide the people on the Base of religion.
Such coercive arguments by Mr Rana Banerji highlight what made the issue persist for such a long time. Its saddening to know how such ill informed and biased bureaucrats can make country suffer so much. Congress Party is to be blamed for deliberate perversion of constitutional machinery to further their political agenda. Mr Rana was made secretary under UPA-I and now heads the task force on Intelligence Reforms at IDSA (Institute for Defence Studies).
See the j sai Deepak expression 19.46 mint.....
I like it. J sai knows that Mr. Banerji's views were reflected a certain ideology
lol
best episode and debate i have ever seen...brilliant
I think we always require some time to process what j Sai Deepak is saying
deepak sir ur views r very authentic
Rana Banerji is a complete dhimmi.
Rana sir u may be very talented and matured minded
but u lost my respect today
sad to know ur views
What is this consensus consensus. Does he want a plebescite in the state.
The instrument of accession was unconditional. They didn't sign it to ensure their indigenous identity is intact rather they were facing an existential threat from Pakistan.
Few year later Abdullah convinced Nehru for the special provision.
The fact that all this is coming from a former govt official that too at such high post is scary.
The lawyer is a rockstar !!!!!
Banner ji is good knowledgeable personality
because you are a muslim
Yes because it easy for him to forget genocide of kashmiri pandit and nobody want to talk about it
A very well balanced debate. kudos!
Anyone watching after abrogation of 370 in August 2019?
Rana banerjee....special secretary क्या बने " special " word se प्यार कर बैठे
Sai Deepak just wipes the floor. The bong buffoon seems to have rattled. He looks like he soiled his pants after the brilliant counter by Deepak.
u seem to have a serious problem with bongs as seen in ur other comments as well..so take some action ..how about starting with ur bosses who use nationalist slogans as a political tool written by a bong...the person they hail as the 'first real PM' of India who is a bong...and needless to say stop using the name of the person who formed the party from which the present day BJP emerged - a bong.
Sushilji is a very intellectual person so humble
Sai Deepak ripped the narrative of victimhood to shreds , I hope to see him in the supreme Court bench in the future(unless his appointment is politicised), also mr.banerjee has the traits of a successful diplomat , people are undermining his qualities that are perhaps needed to be a successful bureaucrat in the future.
J Sai Deepak Sir was just brilliant.😊
So now is the right time to change these articles.
Wow dami❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
big picture is means big perception thanks rajya sabha tv
What Gives the authority to Rana Banerji to unilaterally and arbitrarily project that the "special" status supersedes the "Temporary " nature of Article 370. I find this argument to be outrageous.
Something seems amiss with Rana Banerji who says that something that was temporary and transitory now has no validity should still be retained based on public perception.how can it's dismissal be Dictatorial ?
Its really a fruitful analysis
J Sai Deepak will soon surpass Subramanyam Swamy. This guy will become a torch bearer for bharath varsha, in legal stand point.
Article 370 , 35A will be like at some point of time we give medicine to cure disease , but now it become a poison for them .
- political interests of kashmiri politicians VS political interest of central govt.
- Is Article 35A is beneficial for Local people , what is its relevance in 2019 ?
- if anything happened in kashmir , its echo you can hear in whole world .
Visça Barça
Here i see the cabinet secretary talking in positive way but others arguments r too important so we need to include the cabinet secretary sir point .....for civil service. ...
Finally 370 chapter closed
Deepak anna superb nuvvu
Repealing article 370 and 35A for the whole of J&K, while creating an autonomous district of Kashmir in the line of Gorkha Hill Council with special features protecting the rights of Kashmiris could be thought off. Efforts to win the heart and mind of people of Kashmir should be done. Greater developmental work, skill development, job creation must be promoted. Greater assimilation of Kashmiri youth to the culture, more involvement of Kashmiri youth in the movie industry, cricket can increase their belongingness. Simply repealing 370 and 35A without countermeasures could be disastrous.
Factual and legal arguments strongly give sound grounds to repeal Article 370. To say the least, it is a highly discriminatory provision, especially against women.
i like the views of Rana banerjee but i also accept the views of sai deepak and sushil pandit , it is very valid too
Rana Bannerji sir.. He put things in historical perspective and gives logical view about J&K. The need is to strengthen article 370 rather its abrogation.
J sai sir cannot turn blind to the fact that honourable High Court of j and k has already pronounced redressal mechanism in place regarding rights of women
Pandit sir awesome
Deepak sai and sushil pandit rocks
राष्ट्रीय विज्ञापन परिषद् को यूट्यूब पर अचानक आने वाले अश्लील विज्ञापनों की रोक पर ध्यान देना चाहिए । इनको तत्काल प्रतिबंधित किया जाए ।
Then if tomorrow majority will take law into their hands that is also acceptable according to Rana sir?
I don't know upto which extend a judicial rule will be accepted. Chance of politicising such an issue is high,as it happened in Sabarimala issue... Let central government come forward and take some measures to struck down this article by considering with all political parties within and outside J&K😀
j sai deepak...great
Tact yes, cowardice and spinelessness NO!
I think for a counter point they should also have invited a Kashmiri Muslim to hear their perspective.... why are they sticking on to Article 370 and Article 35A
No wonder why 70 years pass but temporary seems to be more than permanent.....Just look Rana Banarji kind of people were Special Secretaries reached this post with the help of Banerjees and Like minded British left over
If popular perception lead the Hon'ble Supreme Court to judgements, the what about the Sabarimala Judgement?
Mr pandit and sai deepak are very clearly about there legal and constitutional point of view but mr. Banerjee show their favor with separatist....
if article 370 would have been the remedy for aspiration of the people of valley , situation would have been better...the fact of the matter is separatists and misguided youths of valley want to turn the state into a islamic caliphate nation which they call as their "aspiration" and we as a fool are thinking of the real meaning of the word "temporary" in article 370...
There is hope after Subramanian Swamy's era through Sai deepak
People in Jammu region and Ladakh rEGION are totally misrepresented in the overall "Narrative" Created by Communal forces from the valley of Kashmir who are totally Sunni Racist Muslims and can't live with any people of diferent caste or religion.
For Example "Valmiki' people if they rise socially they no more are Citizens of the State of Jammu and Kashir , what can be a greater Travesty ?
Humanity is Greater than any Religion. Isn't it ?
The most important part of the discussion came towards the end. Let's ensure the women right, right of minorities n dalits , aspirations of ladakhi people at the start. Direct hard stance approach may not b so fruitful perhaps. Good to see DIVERSE OPINION which is lacking in some other programs of Rstv in recent times.
EXTREME STAND THROUGH WHICH LAWYERS ADVOCATE IS WRONG ......
Its time to go 370 and must go
Kashmir is a complex issue since 9 October 1947. Why debate before elections? Is govt. Running from their promise of 15 lakh, farmer suicides, NRC of Assam, Babri Masjid, Demonitisation, Rafale . If J.L Nehru didn't abrogate , why you? Although he was the owner!!!
shah faisel should have been invited in this debate
What about Gilgit, Baltistan, Northern Areas, PoK...if J&K Assembly an have 22 seats reserved for them (87 elected + 2 nominated + 22 vacant = 111)then why not Parliament? Why cannot the President of India nominate exiles from those areas and make them MPs.?? All voices have to be represented and heard in the Parliament