I painted movie sets for many years and I watched you with interest. My work was always judged by some of the worlds best decorators and art directors. There are a lot of pointers I am tempted to give you but I'll give you two. 1. When doing rust use at least two colors. If you would add just a little raw sienna to your burnt sienna it would make your eyes much happier You said that when you say burnt umber you mean raw sienna. It looks like burnt umber on my screen but anyway use those two colors together. Also all the pros that I worked and they were definitely pros (we were in the IATSE union and got paid really well" we didn't use black much for character painting. Black really only shows up when there has been fire. Try something like raw umber it is dark but not so harsh. I said two but I'll give you a third when the art director took me over to see the full size mock up of the Voyager spacecraft for the first Star Trek Movie he said it ad to look a couple thousand years old. on of the techniques that we used was to put a little vivid royal blue and copper color togetherj just a little it looks like when the metal gets hot and then cools. Try it you'll see what I mean. You do really good work and I enjoyed watching you.
@MrVbobby Maybe you could show some of those techniques hands on with some videos in your channel... 😏 Just an idea...cause we could all learn and improve with your years of experience shared
This is such a fine thing. Thank you for sharing your tricks. I will use it for an bicycle trailer (which is just black plastics, but very well rounded like the cars from 1950s and 1960s) and there will be big rusty logo on it
We go through quite a bit every week, so this is a great way to keep them from going into a landfill! You can also up the amount you use in this technique for a REALLY aged look.
I really enjoy your techniques and the way you present them. Your voice is very easy to listen to, and as soon as I figure out which famous person it sounds like, I'll be happier! Until then, I'll keep watching and learning. Very rat-isfying rustification!
These are fantastic! Thank you! Inspiring work! I'm wondering though, could these two techniques be combined? Could you add the coffee grounds to the base layer, and then proceed with the rest of the hair spray version? I'm wondering if using the stiff bristled brush to remove the paint would also remove the coffee grounds?
Hi! Thanks for nice technique. i am wondering whether using this method on metal could work too and could be sealed with laquer afterwards to keep the decoration durable for some years?) thanks
While I absolutely love your work are you aware that there is an real iron paint by Modern Masters out there that can be used on almost anything. What you get is real rust when a rusting solution is applied to it. I use the peroxide, salt, vinegar mix to rust it. It has held up outside for 10 years. It’s much quicker. Even sticks to plastic. Keep up the great work.
@@VanOaksProps I tried the Modern Masters rust product, the effect was disappointing to day the least - considering the price. I ended up improvising with craft paint, and most of the spices in the pantry. Can you suggest an alternative to hairspray? I want to try your technique.
Can you give the name of the “ blue/grey” color. I used you link, but it gives Apple barrels entire color collection and not directly to the “blue/grey” color you use. I am using his tutorials for my mixed media projects! These are awesome. I am a fan of making paper and canvas looking like the real deal of metal, marble and wood. Keep these videos coming and thank you for the share of products used.
In my experience adding the clear helps to prevent the acrylic from softening due to exposure to moisture, which prevents additional chipping and that's the larger issue.
Thank you for sharing. Do you think this would work on metal? I have a metal framed table I want to distress, not sure if I could use the same techniques used on wood.
Could the first method be used with regular interior paint? I plan on doing this to a large tool box and I would probably need around 500 tubes of the craft style acrylic paint you used. Thanks for your time. Love the video and you channel keep up the great work.
I sanded it, primed and all the same steps with spray paint first. All that would be left is hairspray and paint and the your magical dry brush technique. So fingers crossed for me. Thanks for the help👍🏼
Wouldn't the hairspray create a weak bond between the acrylic paint and the base coats? or is the topcoat enough to protect anything from happening? I paint very rarely so it feels sketchy but I assume this is well tried and tested (':
@@VanOaksProps I'll give it a go and let you know, or I've used vaseline before then painted and wiped of when dry. I love experimenting,thanks for replying 👍🏽
I'm sure you're a lot younger than me but that sounds like the music from The Ghost and Mr Chicken. A very very old movie that was my favorite growing up. Lol I like the first one better but they was both pretty cool! Thank you
@@VanOaksProps I don't think they did. I was talking about the original. LOL I'm pretty old but I love love that movie no matter how old I get! BTW that was the first time I seen one of your shows and I really liked it a lot. I subscribed and I'm going to start following you! Thank you for some great information!
Do you think the rusted paint technique would work out alright for an interior door in our house? Are the paints pretty sturdy, or do they have any flaking issues?
I don't see why they wouldn't work for interior doors, but I've never tried it. If anything, any additional chipping will enhance the look of the paint. I would, however, suggest applying some kind of clear coat once you're happy with how it looks to seal everything in.
Good question! It's hard for me to say considering I live in California where we get no weather. In theory, the paints should be fine since they're all weather resistant. I can say that the pieces I used to make this video have sat outside since it was filmed and with a few rain storms and hot sunny days they look exactly the same.
I'm just doing my bikes mudguard. I'm hoping with a coat or two of matt topcoat, it should be okay. Doing the rest of my bike soon!!! Rainy UK resident!
Hi I know this may sound strange.... but I want to rust up a red wagon. The inside seat area shows some rusty areas, however, the for some reason (could be a different type metal) the outside and wheel rims do not. What method would you recommend? Or is there another method you could suggest? I would love it if you could make a video with a small red wagon. Thanks so much!
@@VanOaksProps yes I’ve watched all your videos... they are great. I’m just not sure of the best technique .... and if I should keep the red paint as the base on wagon. And the black as base on the tow snd handle. The wheels are white plastic, so thinking those should be black base. If you ever decide to rust a red wagon ( most are wanting to restore) I’d definitely be interested in learning from you. The last thing I rusted was a galvanized tub. And I just painted it with rustoleum rust umber spray paint. Thanks so much!!
I’d start with a quick google image search to see if I could find some reference photos to help with the decision making on what should get rusted versus what should look faded. For example, I would think that the red would fade overall (since red paint oxidized faster than most colors) and would only have rust in the areas where water would have collected over time. So depending on the look you’re going for it could be a mix of techniques. I definitely wouldn’t base coat anything though since rust would form over the existing paint in most cases.
I worked with a guy named John, he was a painter for Robo Cop movie, he showed me so many different ways of painting things to get whatever effect you wanted, he was amazing.
Reason is for restoring military items first world war as display models in museums. So it won’t be outdoors at all. Was just wondering if over the years all of it would come off or not even with several layers of clear coat?
Good day, Thank you for your effort. All your videos are simply detailed and nicely presented. Got a question, I am not able to see the underneath colours you sprayed, I see only brown, maybe when looking close you can see but for viewers didn't or I didn't? Thank you in advance for your reply and time. Best wishes.
You are a genius!! I have been looking for the perfect rusty technique for an upcoming project and you hit the nail on the head, thanks so much!!
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful.
I painted movie sets for many years and I watched you with interest. My work was always judged by some of the worlds best decorators and art directors. There are a lot of pointers I am tempted to give you but I'll give you two. 1. When doing rust use at least two colors. If you would add just a little raw sienna to your burnt sienna it would make your eyes much happier You said that when you say burnt umber you mean raw sienna. It looks like burnt umber on my screen but anyway use those two colors together. Also all the pros that I worked and they were definitely pros (we were in the IATSE union and got paid really well" we didn't use black much for character painting. Black really only shows up when there has been fire. Try something like raw umber it is dark but not so harsh. I said two but I'll give you a third when the art director took me over to see the full size mock up of the Voyager spacecraft for the first Star Trek Movie he said it ad to look a couple thousand years old. on of the techniques that we used was to put a little vivid royal blue and copper color togetherj just a little it looks like when the metal gets hot and then cools. Try it you'll see what I mean. You do really good work and I enjoyed watching you.
Thank you so much for taking the time to give me pointers. I really appreciate it!!
@MrVbobby Maybe you could show some of those techniques hands on with some videos in your channel... 😏
Just an idea...cause we could all learn and improve with your years of experience shared
Thank you for your sharing such generous tips of expertise 😊
love the first one better
Looks fantastic! That is the lightest burnt umber I have ever seen
Some people prefer to make old things look new & some prefer to make new things look old...
Love this quote
I feel like Derek is the Bob Ross of PropMaker!RUclips, and I will gladly die on that hill. 😊
Hahaha you’re too kind, but I’ll gladly take that title.
Well done!!!
Sir, you are a true artist !!!!
Thanks so much!
I do paint effects myself, but i love your methods. Great!
Thanks, Ann!
Nice chippy technique. I can see that working on a lot of things.
For sure. Thanks for watching!
This is such a fine thing.
Thank you for sharing your tricks.
I will use it for an bicycle trailer (which is just black plastics, but very well rounded like the cars from 1950s and 1960s)
and there will be big rusty logo on it
Your use of adjectives is on par with your painting techniques. 👍
Haha. Thank you!
I'll be saving some coffee grounds. Thanks for the great tutorial.
We go through quite a bit every week, so this is a great way to keep them from going into a landfill! You can also up the amount you use in this technique for a REALLY aged look.
Absolutely brilliant ❤️
Wonderful video! I’ve been trying to figure out this technique for years!
Well came here to paint rust on a bicycle and I guess I don't need to watch another video cuz this one nailed it!
I really enjoy your techniques and the way you present them. Your voice is very easy to listen to, and as soon as I figure out which famous person it sounds like, I'll be happier! Until then, I'll keep watching and learning. Very rat-isfying rustification!
I’m often told that I sound like radio host Casey Kasem.
@@VanOaksProps THAT'S IT!
Fantastic tutorial, much thanks! ❤
You always come up with something to help fellow haunters. Keep up the great work and be safe!
Thanks, Ben! I hope you’re safe too.
this was interesting.
i may use some of the techniques here in different ways.
but a jumping off point is still very useful, thanks.
Absolutely! Use all of it or just some of it. Whatever makes sense for what you're working on.
Love this tutorial
Beautiful!
Thanks for the demo! 999
thank you for these tips, I plan to incorporate into my patina car paint job.
Awesome!
Thanks for sharing another great tutorial.
Happy to do it!
badass technique!
Brilliant sir!!
Looks amazing! Great tutorial
Thanks so much!
Very, very cool!
These are fantastic! Thank you! Inspiring work! I'm wondering though, could these two techniques be combined? Could you add the coffee grounds to the base layer, and then proceed with the rest of the hair spray version? I'm wondering if using the stiff bristled brush to remove the paint would also remove the coffee grounds?
Thanks! I’ve never tried it but I don’t see why you couldn’t.
Making faux patina is one of the most fun things 😄
It's a little Zen, isn't it?
I have a ww2 metal viewing coffin I bought from a friend and I’m going to use this on it for my cemetery scene this year, can’t wait 👍🏻
Awesome!
Both techniques are really great!!
Omg you're amazing!
Thank you
This music cracks me up. Addams Family, Men in Black and Mars Attacks! all in one
Super duper awesome! This is so interesting... I love it!!!
Thank you so much!
I actually loved it before the white paint hit it!
Nice techniques!
Thanks!
helped tons...you guys are SmArT!
Thanks Matt!
Cool stuff! Thanks.
Thank you!
These are both GREAT. Not sure which version I like best...
The best part is that you can throw them both in your bag of tricks for whenever the need arises!
Good stuff!
Thanks!
Very nice 👍
YOU ROCK!
Thank you! So do you!
The wood grain is very strong and gives it away as wood.
How close people will view it is definitely a consideration when choosing materials. From 10 feet the wood grain is not likely to be seen.
Hi! Thanks for nice technique. i am wondering whether using this method on metal could work too and could be sealed with laquer afterwards to keep the decoration durable for some years?) thanks
I would imagine so, although you'll want to do a sample to check the compatibility of your paints before starting your project to be sure.
Amazing sir, wish i had found you years ago. Liked and subbed!
Thanks and welcome!
Awsome
Thanks Doug!
Awesome video and great information. By the way, I loved the background music.. where would I find it?
Thanks! The music is from audiojungle.net and can be found here: audiojungle.net/item/spooky/13325785
@@VanOaksProps
Thanks for the reply. I’ve subscribed to your channel. Cannot wait to see more. I think I’m going to learn a lot here.
While I absolutely love your work are you aware that there is an real iron paint by Modern Masters out there that can be used on almost anything. What you get is real rust when a rusting solution is applied to it. I use the peroxide, salt, vinegar mix to rust it. It has held up outside for 10 years. It’s much quicker. Even sticks to plastic. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! I’ve heard of it, but I’ve also heard it can be pricey. So I figured out how to get a similar result without needing specialty items.
@@VanOaksProps I tried the Modern Masters rust product, the effect was disappointing to day the least - considering the price.
I ended up improvising with craft paint, and most of the spices in the pantry.
Can you suggest an alternative to hairspray? I want to try your technique.
@@heidihein8662 I’d check out this salt technique that I used in this video:
ruclips.net/video/BWKYSNsy-BA/видео.html
God damn! you spent more time on those three pieces of wood then I did on my motorcycle! and my bike is a panty dropping, head turner!
🤣🤣🤣
Can you give the name of the “ blue/grey” color. I used you link, but it gives Apple barrels entire color collection and not directly to the “blue/grey” color you use. I am using his tutorials for my mixed media projects! These are awesome. I am a fan of making paper and canvas looking like the real deal of metal, marble and wood. Keep these videos coming and thank you for the share of products used.
It’s likely to be the same dolphin blue from the other video, but you can go with whatever color you like.
I dig the music too.
Thanks Ernie!
Another great one Derek. Thanks for all you do. Also, where do you get your spooky yet zippy music?
Thanks! The music is from a stock music website.
With the clear coat sealer, have you found it neutralizes the hair spray's effect of preventing paint adhesion?
In my experience adding the clear helps to prevent the acrylic from softening due to exposure to moisture, which prevents additional chipping and that's the larger issue.
@@VanOaksProps Good to know, thanks!
Thank you for sharing. Do you think this would work on metal? I have a metal framed table I want to distress, not sure if I could use the same techniques used on wood.
It should, but I can't say for certain.
Could the first method be used with regular interior paint? I plan on doing this to a large tool box and I would probably need around 500 tubes of the craft style acrylic paint you used. Thanks for your time. Love the video and you channel keep up the great work.
I haven't tried it, but I'd imagine it would work similarly. The bigger issue would be whether the latex paint would adhere to the metal tool box.
I sanded it, primed and all the same steps with spray paint first. All that would be left is hairspray and paint and the your magical dry brush technique. So fingers crossed for me. Thanks for the help👍🏼
Wouldn't the hairspray create a weak bond between the acrylic paint and the base coats? or is the topcoat enough to protect anything from happening? I paint very rarely so it feels sketchy but I assume this is well tried and tested (':
Yes and no. It’s weak in the beginning, but seems to hold over time.
Can you use emulsion if you were doing a massive project? Or does it have to be acrylic? Great tutorial 👌🏾
Great question. I'm unfamiliar with emulsion, so I can't say.
@@VanOaksProps I'll give it a go and let you know, or I've used vaseline before then painted and wiped of when dry. I love experimenting,thanks for replying 👍🏽
So if it was for out doors use. To leave all year around what show I use. Thank you.
All the same stuff. Acrylic paints are weather resistant.
What burnt umber brand are you using? All the ones ive bought are pretty dark almost the color the coffee grounds
There was a correction in the video description. Every time I say burnt umber I meant raw sienna.
@@VanOaksProps oh rock on. Thank you
Is it ok to use a hair dryer on hair spray?
Yes
Do you let it dry between the satin yellow and brown? So 3 dry periods?
Because the paint is dusted on, it dries really fast and can be done right away.
I'm sure you're a lot younger than me but that sounds like the music from The Ghost and Mr Chicken. A very very old movie that was my favorite growing up. Lol I like the first one better but they was both pretty cool! Thank you
Yes, very similar. I didn’t realize they made a sequel.
@@VanOaksProps I don't think they did. I was talking about the original. LOL I'm pretty old but I love love that movie no matter how old I get! BTW that was the first time I seen one of your shows and I really liked it a lot. I subscribed and I'm going to start following you! Thank you for some great information!
@@VanOaksProps lol I meant the first way you showed to make Rusty looking metal. LOL not the first Mr chicken. LOL
@@darlenecovey7980 Ahhh. Ok, that makes more sense now. haha
@@darlenecovey7980 Thank you and welcome!
Is there anything coffee CAN'T do?? Great vid! 999
Do you think the rusted paint technique would work out alright for an interior door in our house? Are the paints pretty sturdy, or do they have any flaking issues?
I don't see why they wouldn't work for interior doors, but I've never tried it. If anything, any additional chipping will enhance the look of the paint. I would, however, suggest applying some kind of clear coat once you're happy with how it looks to seal everything in.
@@VanOaksProps Groovy. And thank you for the speedy reply! I will have to give it a shot soon..ish, and let you know how it goes.
How well does this hold up to exterior weather and time. I know, crazy question for patina paint job. What if I used automotive matte clear?
Good question! It's hard for me to say considering I live in California where we get no weather. In theory, the paints should be fine since they're all weather resistant. I can say that the pieces I used to make this video have sat outside since it was filmed and with a few rain storms and hot sunny days they look exactly the same.
I'm just doing my bikes mudguard. I'm hoping with a coat or two of matt topcoat, it should be okay. Doing the rest of my bike soon!!!
Rainy UK resident!
Hi I know this may sound strange.... but I want to rust up a red wagon. The inside seat area shows some rusty areas, however, the for some reason (could be a different type metal) the outside and wheel rims do not.
What method would you recommend? Or is there another method you could suggest?
I would love it if you could make a video with a small red wagon.
Thanks so much!
I have 2 videos on faux rust, so I’d start there. If you need any additional help let me know.
@@VanOaksProps yes I’ve watched all your videos... they are great. I’m just not sure of the best technique .... and if I should keep the red paint as the base on wagon. And the black as base on the tow snd handle. The wheels are white plastic, so thinking those should be black base. If you ever decide to rust a red wagon ( most are wanting to restore) I’d definitely be interested in learning from you. The last thing I rusted was a galvanized tub. And I just painted it with rustoleum rust umber spray paint. Thanks so much!!
I’d start with a quick google image search to see if I could find some reference photos to help with the decision making on what should get rusted versus what should look faded. For example, I would think that the red would fade overall (since red paint oxidized faster than most colors) and would only have rust in the areas where water would have collected over time. So depending on the look you’re going for it could be a mix of techniques. I definitely wouldn’t base coat anything though since rust would form over the existing paint in most cases.
Can you use latex paint?
Yes, you should be able to use latex paint with this method.
I worked with a guy named John, he was a painter for Robo Cop movie, he showed me so many different ways of painting things to get whatever effect you wanted, he was amazing.
i want to do the concrete look to an entire coffee table but idk if i have the patience for it
Plz what is the name of this spray?
All paints and materials are in the video description.
Nice but too complicated. Thanks for sharing.
No problem. Thanks for watching.
😀
Is this durable long term? With the hair spray?
Tough to say because I'm in Los Angeles where we don't see real weather. But it held up outdoors for many months without any noticeable paint failure.
Reason is for restoring military items first world war as display models in museums. So it won’t be outdoors at all. Was just wondering if over the years all of it would come off or not even with several layers of clear coat?
Does this work on actual metal though? Like cars?
Great question. I’m not sure, mainly because you’d likely use enamel paints on a car and I don’t know how enamel and hairspray interact.
@@VanOaksProps okay, thanks for the response! Time to go on an adventure to find out how to make a truck look old and rusty
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Hmm. I'm not sure I like doing all these steps. I've done equally as well with fewer steps. Just say'n
That's the beauty of making things - there's multiple ways to go about achieving results to fit your tastes/needs/budget/schedule.
When you run out of coffee you can boil your art...
Haha. I wouldn't recommend it. LOL
didn't work did it!
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wow stealing techniques from millitary modelers to do halloween projects haha
I wouldn’t call it stealing when it’s shared freely. 🤣
Can you leave it without clearcoating?
You could, but you run the risk of more paint chipping away over time.
Great stuff. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I needed to find something to make faux tin tiles look like actual antique tin tile? You NAILED IT! Thank you so much.
Glad it was helpful!
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Thank you so much .
These were both great techniques that could be used on so many applications!
Thanks! Glad you think so!
Are you Casey Kasem's son?
Nope. 🤣
Can you do a video on peeling paint?
Thanks for the suggestion. Have you seen our chipping paint tutorial? Could be a good place to start.
Just watched this again for inspiration❤
Good day,
Thank you for your effort. All your videos are simply detailed and nicely presented.
Got a question, I am not able to see the underneath colours you sprayed, I see only brown, maybe when looking close you can see but for viewers didn't or I didn't?
Thank you in advance for your reply and time.
Best wishes.
All of the colors are mentioned in the video, but it’s wood that is first painted black, then cinnamon, then yellow, then brown.
THIS IS AHHHHMMAAZZIINGG!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks so much!