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Latterlig god pris på masterson sin wet palette til Norge og. Kjøpte to. No gjenstår det berre å få motatt dei Kickstarter bystene dine so kan eg sette meg ned med min bedre halvdel og male :) For all you non Scandinavians in the comment section: Ridiculous pricing on the Masterson wet palette to Norway as well. Bought two. Now all I have to is wait until the Kickstarter busts arrive so me and the SO can start painting :)
Random mini fig question. I got the necron learn to paint kit and it says the minis were “push fit” to assemble, when you make minis that are “push fit” do you still use glue to stick them in place? (I.e. other foot to base) Or is the “push fit” system only on the entry level minis for beginners.
Big tip on homemade wet palettes: upside down tupperware. I use the LID of a tupperware as base instead of the "box", so there are no tall walls getting in the way.
Been doing this for a while now, the only problem is that the bigger size of the container means that the paints will dry out a bit more when storing. But otherwise works well.
I find the red grass so nice. I’ve literally left paints in it for 3 months before after upgrading to the XL and they were still wet. That seal is no joke, and the magnetic wavy palette on the side is useful for washes and metallics which just really helps my flow. Getting out and cleaning out a separate palette always just one more extra step. That army painter one looks cool and the ability to store brushes seems really useful. Red grass for home Army painter for travel maybe for me.
Ya I have left paint in my red grass one for the summer and when i opened it up I would have been able to paint with most of the paint. I have never had the issue of that he talks about but I see he uses alot more water in his wet pallet then I do.
I use the army painter one myself. A major reason for me buying it was that the refill pack is dirt cheap. £7/€8 for 2 sponges and 50 sheets is a bargain
I have the STA-WET Palette and have been using it for a couple of years. If you're in the US you can buy the Reynolds Kitchen cookie baking sheets. They are pre-cut parchment paper that is folded so it makes 4 squares that are perfect for the palette.
Mentioning Marco Frisconi! Man I love that guy and his channel and the fact you are also a fan makes me an even bigger fan of your videos than I was before.
@@Monkeyninjaghost ahh yeah I will rewatch that one. I have always been a fan of both channels. And by always I mean since this summer when I started getting into the hobby.
Thanks for this honest review! I had been using a Tupperware sandwich lid and parchment paper, but used paper towels soaked in water instead of a decent sponge thing which resulted in paint separation. I finally just caved. I really want the Red Grass XL, but decided on the Army Painter since my work area is tiny. It arrives in April. So excited!
I use the Masterson myself, and really love it. The only other reason I would pick it over your favorite is if your painting space is smaller, a big pallet may be impractical. Great video as always. Thanks very much.
I just started painting again after not doing it for almost 30 years....yup...Battletech back in high school...lol. Everyone said to get a wet pallet and I went for two of the Masterson's and I LOVE them. I have access to Tupperware and used that at first to get used to it, but I cannot understate how nice it is to have two dedicated wet pallets, I got the curved tip water bottles to keep them hydrated, and I have an old-style paper cutter so I can cut like ten sheets of parchment paper at a time and it doesn't bug me much. Love the vids man, keep them coming!
I got the orange redgrass one when it came out on kickstarter and never looked back. Perfect size for a casual painter and the magnetized sides are perfect for metallics. Never have issues wirh watery paint. Dont over saturate the sponge. Also worth having a water dropper bottle at hand to keep it lightly moisturised if your having a longer session or painting the next day. P.s. if your in the UK just use non-stick baking paper from the supermarket.
I picked the army painter one since it was the one most readily available for me. I already liked it but your professional opinion made me appreciate it even more :D
@@PigeonCrash also got one, seals to good, you have to open the lid a little else the water evaporises, gathers at the top lit and drips into your paints... Overhydrating them :/
I've been using the (small, orange) Redgrass wet palette for a couple of years and I'm extremely happy with it. Closing it has not been an issue - just put less water in it. The sponge is working very well. I keep it wet, but not much free water around it. Sure, the price could be an issue for many, but given the high quality and what we pay for paints, brushes, paint stations and above all miniatures/games it's worth it.
Being relatively new to painting miniatures, I had to learn that this hobby is not one of the cheapest anyway. And sure, at the moment, this palette costs 25 Euro, but this is something you will have for a long time, so this is relative.
I have what I consider an amazing wet palette set up. I found in one of my local department stores in the bathroom section of all places these wonderful stackable plastic organizer trays. They have a ridge on the bottum that form fits into the top. And they cost like a dollar each. One great thing is that they are long enough to hold my paint brushes too. So I store paper, brushes, and a wet palette all stacked up.
I was looking at some of these at a dollar store the other day, and I was so close to buying a couple to try out. I was concerned that without a seal of any sort, they'd dry out. How does paint hold up with just the friction fit of the trays to seal it up?
I saw Marco's Ferrero Rocher video one day and, going into my local supermarket the next day, saw the exact same size FR chocolate boxes at 2-for-1. Happily stuffed with chocolate, I made a Marco FR wet palette - worked wonderfully. 3(4?) months later, I saw a local online supplier doing a *special* for the Army Painter wet palette and succumbed to 'official' wet palette envy. The internal lid that holds the brushes wasn't something that I was expecting so that was a very happy surprise. That said, both work about the same, and the Army Painter box is more robust than a FR box, and it comes with precut paper. In terms of price & convenience (you do have to cut the paper, but that just becomes a regular set-up activity), the FR wet palette can't be beaten, especially if you're new to the hobby... and if you're partial to chocolate. So, if you're painting at home in the same place all the time 》Ferrero Rocher! If you're taking your kit from place to place 》Army Painter.
Came for the Masterson review (I also got the Jazza box, just now started cracking into it) and am SO GLAD it's not just me on the paper being wonky. I've tried both following the soaking instructions and nothing, rinsing it with hot water, nothing makes the paper feel like a skin instead of just random paper. And the paints have soaked through into the sponge which messes with my color perception sometimes. Thank you for noting it and suggesting the parchment paper instead, probably going to use up what came in the box and swap over.
Right now am using a modified make up container. it is shallow and wide, so i have more than enough space. I sawed off the hinge, which gives a small opening for ventilation and lets me remove the lid so it doesn't get in my way. I am using paper towels to hold the water and self cut parchment paper as a surface. Works great for me!
Most of these hobby supply reviews make me second guess my purchases. It's nice to see I made a good choice with the Masterson wet palette. Good job and thank you for the insight.
Iv been using a home made wet pellet for about 5 years now, if been thinking about buying one but what iv got works fine. It was good to see your review on the different pallets, I think it will help me decide on which one I'll eventually buy. Great video as always.
Biggest problem I had trying to make my own in the UK was getting parchment paper since every store seems to just sell the wax coated ones that won't allow any water through at all.
I find that I liked the wax paper more then parchment to protect my paints from getting too wet from underneath , but the moisture of the box overall was enough to keep my paints wet. I’ve had it mold before the moisture and paints dries up.
It's just non stick baking paper bro. Grab it at any supermarket in the UK. £2 for a roll that never runs out. I used to make my own for years with kitchen roll, baking paper and a tupperware container.
The P3 sold me on wet palettes. It's useful as a stepping stone for those reluctant to make their own. But I've since moved on to the Sta-Wet and it's been my main WP for a few years now. I swear by it. Cannot paint without it.
Thanks for the video, persuaded me to go for the Army Painter one as space is an issue on my desk and having somewhere to keep my brushes is a nice bonus.
Thanks for your insight. I don't have a lot of brushes and I certainly don't paint as mush as you. So, I think I like the Army Painter one best for me. The brush storage means I can keep everything together.
Good video Squidmar! Cheers from a fellow Swede! :) Honestly I don't get why people buy these so that's why I watched the video. I don't see the benfefit of a premade one. I use a small soap cup with low edges, have a dishcloth cut to size, and then add a paper used for separating sandwiches in food boxes. That said, the use of a wet palette is the thing that has helped me improve my painting, by far.
Metal pencil case. Cellulose dish rag. Parchment paper. Keeps my paints fresh for ages. I’ve been painting with the same paints for just over a week now.
Great video. I too use a Redgrass wet pallet. One thing I have found regarding the sealed in paint getting too wet between sessions is the washed out paint can be removed with a paper towel. If you use a gentle action the paint wants to stick to the towel more than the pallet leaving the paper surface intact for reuse. Of course it doesn't remove all the paint so it only works if you are painting off the same pallet of colours but on the plus side this helps matching the blends. It might seem obvious but a lot of my friends were in the habit of swapping paper each session which is fine if you want to but is very wasteful. I have kept paper in use over multiple sessions covering several weeks. Give it a try there is nothing to lose, because even if you damage the paper surface or have trouble removing the unwanted spoilt paint you were going to chuck the paper anyway.
So I know I am getting the red grass one for Christmas. Just came in the mail yesterday. So annoying knowing it is here but having to wait because of tradition
Just purchased the Army Painter wet palette over the Redgass one as the army painter was slightly cheaper. Very impressed so far much better than the cheap, made at home option I have been using for a long time
👍Was pleasantly surprised when you didn’t poo poo the idea of using a diy wet palette. Thanks for the review and breaking down the pros and cons of each.
That's what I was thinking. I never use that much water! Even with it just damp the paints last about a month in my sta-wet. Plus I think the paper that comes with it isn't made to be laying in a puddle haha.
Just a heads up, if you order or buy a redgrass wet palette, don't expect to use it anytime soon in the USA. It takes almost 2 months for delivery for how they deliver it from the UK. (my guess is cheap and slow).
Your choice of palettes to review were great. I own the Masterson, picked it up at a retail craft store. My sponge got mold, but only because I left it sitting with water for over a week. This is after months of use. It’s coming apart near the middle when I wash it, but only because I had to wash the mold off. I also have to cut my own paper, and I don’t mind it. I’m going to invest in an RGG version. I’m hoping the paint WONT separate overnight the way my Masterson unfortunately does. Other than the mold, and citadel paint separation after sitting overnight, it’s a great palette for the price🫰🏽
So I got the Masterson Sta-wet pallet and I don’t have a single issue with the paper made for it. I bought a large pack of the paper, when you do that it comes with instructions on how to use it. You have to let the paper sit in very hot water for about 15 mins and it then becomes very porous and will keep my paints fresh for up to a week. And i can reuse it a few times. Maybe give it another shot? Or maybe most of you did try that and still didn’t like it...well then do what works lol. Strangely I was gifted the Army painter one and that one drys out faster than the Masterson.
As a noob, I am SO glad to see that the Sta-wet palette's paper is actually the problem and its not how I'm using it. That paper has been frustrating me for so long and it had me really scratching my head as it did not seem to be keeping my paints wet like other people's palettes I see in videos (even when I followed the instructions and pre-soaked the paper in warm water).
The Ferrero Rocher box one is a great idea, I have one leftover from Christmas :), I had only been using the inserts to mix paint in but now I will use the box too. Thanks for posting the other guys use of it. I have been using a sandwich box with some paper towel and greaseproof paper in but it is a bit deep so the Ferrero box will be much better. I might invest in a thin sponge to replace the paper towel now, actually I think there are some in the kitchen cupboard :)
The pre cut Reynolds baking sheets come in a box folded into quarters. If you cut along the folds, you get four sheets that are a pretty good fit for the Masterson’s palette. They’re a bit smaller than the full size of the palette, but I think it’s a fair trade off with how easy they are to prepare.
For a home made palette, i started with using the box that came with my Army Painter Wash set. Worked great. A better solution is to buy a refill for the Army Painter wet palette. The plastic contained it comes in works perfectly as the wet palette. This is a great option if your local shop stocks those and you aren't sure if you want to pay for a full Wet Palette yet. The refill pack comes with papers, and sponge! If you decide to upgrade to an Army Painter palette, you already have refills!
I used the mastersons for a few years until recently switching to the redgrass games ones; the reason was my mastersons sponges kept degrading and growing mold (even if copper in the bottom of the palette to discourage mold from growing). After I switched the sponge out for a new one for the seventh or eighth time I bit the bullet and get the redgrass games palette because the sponge is easier to wash without destroying it and because of it's anti-mold properties. I've been using it for a few months now and am super happy. I also got the bigger XL palette and I'm happier with the size for all my mixing needs.
RedGrasser here with the small one which is just the perfect size for me. Started with a DIY one but parchment paper is difficult to find here since the one most sold for baking is coated on one side with some non-stock grease which just kill the osmosis/membrane effect you want from it.
Got myself a redgrass XL on 35% discount, and it's absolutely amazing, but your critique about the seals being too tight is definitely true. It is expensive, but I work at an Element Games, so it was a lot more affordable to me as a result.
I literally had an arguement with myself TODAY about whether or not to buy a wet palette. The army painter version is probably perfect for me. Thanks for the thorough review Emil, great video!
i received a redgrass games wet palette (and handle) as a gift, didn't realize they were so pricey but damn do i love it. got three packs of the papers and i have had no issue with it, as long as like you said you crack open the container if you are gonna leave it be for longer periods of times.
Been using my DIY version made with a take out container, paper towel/ now sponge, and parchment paper, 8” x 10” working area. Works great only drawback, high sides about a inch. I guess when I get ready I’ll speed money or find a locking plastic container with low sides.
I know it’s really small but a kid that used to come into my hobby store used an old GW grass tuft box and made a wet pallet out of it. It’s a place to start for some.
I’ve been using the red grass games small palette after struggling with the mastersons. The papers in the mastersons are horrible for miniature paint. And I’m lazy to keep cutting parchment, so the red grass is good for me. Word of caution, the papers can also disintegrate if left for too long. I’m talking after 1-2 weeks
There are mastersons palettes that come in a HUGE size. The normal size is good but if you want a monster palette, check your art store. Also, some brands of baking parchment paper come precut that fit the normal size mastersons :)
The wet palette move is RedGrass Orange, with Army painter replacement sheets. Enough room on the sides so the paper doesn't overlap, and you can keep it easily topped up with water.
Thank god I came across your videos a while back, wet pallets were totally foreign to me as a painter and oh boy do they work so well. Squidmar has taught and will continue to teach me well
I have been using the masterson for a bit. One of the nice things about it is that I can switch from painting minis to painting with heavy body acrylics on canvas. Great reviews.
The RGG one is definitely beyond what I'm willing to spend. I made my own from a small sistema (tupperware-type) container and that has worked well so far. I'm interested in the Army Painter and Masterson ones too. I like the idea of one that lives in my "go box" for mobile use, and another larger one that is at my desk. Good video, I appreciate your run through of what you liked/disliked, thank you!
I have been using a Masterson Sta-Wet Super Pro, which I originally got to have an air-tight storage for my oil palette between sessions. It's way too big, honestly, but that's a minor thing most of the time. I agree with you about their paper. You can tell it's meant to keep heavy body acrylics moist without making them runny. It will still keep your paints workable for hours but probably not the next day.
I bought and love the form of the Army Builder one, my biggest peeve with it is the papers start to curl if i gets too dry, after watching this im considering maybe trying magnets to hold the paper down
I know this is an older video but with the masters pallet ive found that if you use the raised area on the lid as a template for cutting the paper to fit it is easier.
I use a sta-Wet palette and I have been thinking I was using it wrong now I know it's the paper it came with. Thanks Emil you saved me from buying a new palette, now I just need to figure out how to get the citadel paints out of the pots without wasting a bunch.
If you're making your own, the brand Rosti Mepal have some good sandwich / storage boxes (like the Modula 550) that are quite low profile, and the one I have even has some ridging on the bottom which keeps the moisture level good by accident.
I like using the Masterson Pallet/sponge + redgrass games small paper available at my local game store. Parchment paper that I've bought have a bit too much silicone in the coating that causes the paint to slide around. At my painting level I'm not very good at gauging paint consistency so using the more textured redgrass games paper really helps me check the flow of paint from my brush.
hehe weird, I swear by the Masterson paper, I even use that with the army painter pallet as I accidentally warped the pallet with hot water, It is a night and day difference when you prepare the paper before painting by microwaving it submerged in water. The paper from the army painter dries my paints too fast, same with the paper that comes with the AK wet pallet.
Nice vid as always. I'd like to add just one thing: I have the XL Redgrass and I love her but its paper doesn't really work with some brands (for example Scale75 fantasy line). I replaced the paper with parchment and it works like a dream with any paint range I've tried so far
I tried the STA one the other day with kitchen parchment paper and the paints dried nearly immediately. My homemade one with paper towels, tuperware, and parchment paper outperformed it a million times over.
Nice test. I used to have the Mastersson wet palette. Unfortunately, mold appeared after a few days. I no longer have the problem with the everlasting wet pallets.
Add a splash of hydrogen peroxide to the water before putting the sponge and paper in. This inhibits growth of both mold/mildew and does not noticeably affect the paint.
Thanks for the information - currently using the smaller of the redgrass games ones - big fan altogether, but can feel a bit cramped at times alright! Might need to make a purchase!!!
I like my red grass but I bought it because I couldnt find the masterssons, but I did buy the smaller one since its larger than my homemade. I found a very low tupperware and I strongly recommend sandwhich paper instead of parchment (butter paper??) Much better moist to paint (believe Miniac mentioned it as well). But that said I have had far less issues with paints breaking apart in red grass but on that note, they sell the moist-pad and paper seperatly so ... find a good container and usung those is probably the best recommendation from my side.
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Latterlig god pris på masterson sin wet palette til Norge og. Kjøpte to. No gjenstår det berre å få motatt dei Kickstarter bystene dine so kan eg sette meg ned med min bedre halvdel og male :)
For all you non Scandinavians in the comment section: Ridiculous pricing on the Masterson wet palette to Norway as well. Bought two. Now all I have to is wait until the Kickstarter busts arrive so me and the SO can start painting :)
Hey Emil, do you happen to know when the squidmar airbrush you talked about on the 200k stream is coming out? I want that to be my first airbrush!
Random mini fig question. I got the necron learn to paint kit and it says the minis were “push fit” to assemble, when you make minis that are “push fit” do you still use glue to stick them in place? (I.e. other foot to base) Or is the “push fit” system only on the entry level minis for beginners.
Big tip on homemade wet palettes: upside down tupperware. I use the LID of a tupperware as base instead of the "box", so there are no tall walls getting in the way.
You beautiful genius.
That's a really good idea, thank ya kindly for that.
Been doing this for a while now, the only problem is that the bigger size of the container means that the paints will dry out a bit more when storing. But otherwise works well.
this is what i do. i use a locking lid type of "tupperware" which has a nice flat lid.
Me as well Sistema tupperware
Unlike the catchy phrasing, this video was not "Poopoo in the garbage bin."
Finally a comparison of all the most popular ones. I have the army painter one myself bu I've always wanted to see how it stacks up.
I find the red grass so nice. I’ve literally left paints in it for 3 months before after upgrading to the XL and they were still wet. That seal is no joke, and the magnetic wavy palette on the side is useful for washes and metallics which just really helps my flow. Getting out and cleaning out a separate palette always just one more extra step.
That army painter one looks cool and the ability to store brushes seems really useful. Red grass for home Army painter for travel maybe for me.
Ya I have left paint in my red grass one for the summer and when i opened it up I would have been able to paint with most of the paint. I have never had the issue of that he talks about but I see he uses alot more water in his wet pallet then I do.
I use the army painter one myself. A major reason for me buying it was that the refill pack is dirt cheap. £7/€8 for 2 sponges and 50 sheets is a bargain
Same thing for the Masterson here in the states. ONLY bit is I have to cut my own paper, but I enjoy the process🫰🏽
1:52 - Red Grass
4:09 - Masterson
7:00 - Army Painter
Okay, call me nuts, but what I really want to know about is the storage and organizational system you use. Those drawers and such seem super nice.
I have the STA-WET Palette and have been using it for a couple of years. If you're in the US you can buy the Reynolds Kitchen cookie baking sheets. They are pre-cut parchment paper that is folded so it makes 4 squares that are perfect for the palette.
That's exactly what I do.
I bought the roll, a little tedious lol. Saw another reviewer use the sheets- BRILLIANT, man🫰🏽
time to print some camels and moisten my palette
Dont say "moist", else Miniac will show up.
Moist moist moist moist
I read the title as "Tasted all the wet palletes" and got very concerned for half a second there
They were all delicious :D
TBF they are all just gonna taste like plastic lol
@@crowdemon_archives Yeah but which one tasted the best? I need to know now.
Next level Sam Lenz
That's Miniac's follow up video
If you are going the home-made route, use your tupperware upside down so the lid is used as the palette. Gives you good low profile for painting.
Mentioning Marco Frisconi! Man I love that guy and his channel and the fact you are also a fan makes me an even bigger fan of your videos than I was before.
You should watch his video about "Mastering Object Source Lighting".
@@Monkeyninjaghost oh I watch all his content great stuff!
@@boredcryptek5513, I mean Emil's Mastering Object Source Lighting.
@@Monkeyninjaghost ahh yeah I will rewatch that one. I have always been a fan of both channels. And by always I mean since this summer when I started getting into the hobby.
@@boredcryptek5513, I just assumed you hadn't seen it, since Marco has a great cameo in it ;)
i got redgrass small one i absolutely love it was in my local store and really wanted to try a wet pallette have had it for 2years absolutely love it!
Thanks for this honest review! I had been using a Tupperware sandwich lid and parchment paper, but used paper towels soaked in water instead of a decent sponge thing which resulted in paint separation. I finally just caved. I really want the Red Grass XL, but decided on the Army Painter since my work area is tiny. It arrives in April. So excited!
Why is it specifically doing a paint separation ? I noticed also that, but I don't understand why
I use the Masterson myself, and really love it. The only other reason I would pick it over your favorite is if your painting space is smaller, a big pallet may be impractical. Great video as always. Thanks very much.
I got a advent calendar that gives me a new mini each day its awesome!
Where did you get that? What a cool idea
I’ve been thinking about that as an idea. Yeah where did you get it the I’m?
@@TheMcbiscuit from mighty Lancers games
@@martins3d453 mighty lancer games
I just started painting again after not doing it for almost 30 years....yup...Battletech back in high school...lol. Everyone said to get a wet pallet and I went for two of the Masterson's and I LOVE them. I have access to Tupperware and used that at first to get used to it, but I cannot understate how nice it is to have two dedicated wet pallets, I got the curved tip water bottles to keep them hydrated, and I have an old-style paper cutter so I can cut like ten sheets of parchment paper at a time and it doesn't bug me much. Love the vids man, keep them coming!
Masterson has multiple size of the palette. The one you showed is the small one. The premier palette is larger and has the same design.
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I got the orange redgrass one when it came out on kickstarter and never looked back. Perfect size for a casual painter and the magnetized sides are perfect for metallics. Never have issues wirh watery paint. Dont over saturate the sponge. Also worth having a water dropper bottle at hand to keep it lightly moisturised if your having a longer session or painting the next day. P.s. if your in the UK just use non-stick baking paper from the supermarket.
I picked the army painter one since it was the one most readily available for me. I already liked it but your professional opinion made me appreciate it even more :D
I really like mine in comparison to my DIY one, but it is far too small for me.
How did you find the lid-seal to work on the army painter one? Do the paints stay wet/have a good consistency when you open it back up?
@@PigeonCrash also got one, seals to good, you have to open the lid a little else the water evaporises, gathers at the top lit and drips into your paints... Overhydrating them :/
I bet it is made by the same people that manufacture the redgrass one
Drilled a hole in my Redgrass lid, just a small one, it helps with condensation.
@Chapstick yep works nicely of course over a few days it harden but paint can normally be reactivated.
I've been using the (small, orange) Redgrass wet palette for a couple of years and I'm extremely happy with it. Closing it has not been an issue - just put less water in it. The sponge is working very well. I keep it wet, but not much free water around it.
Sure, the price could be an issue for many, but given the high quality and what we pay for paints, brushes, paint stations and above all miniatures/games it's worth it.
Being relatively new to painting miniatures, I had to learn that this hobby is not one of the cheapest anyway. And sure, at the moment, this palette costs 25 Euro, but this is something you will have for a long time, so this is relative.
I have a Masterson, and the plastic tray is rather thin, and warps a bit when it’s lidless. I think the sturdiness of the RGG is a plus 🫰🏽
Exactly thus. I use the small Redgrass one as well and never have issues with paints go8ng watery. Just don't oversoak it.
I have what I consider an amazing wet palette set up. I found in one of my local department stores in the bathroom section of all places these wonderful stackable plastic organizer trays. They have a ridge on the bottum that form fits into the top. And they cost like a dollar each.
One great thing is that they are long enough to hold my paint brushes too. So I store paper, brushes, and a wet palette all stacked up.
I was looking at some of these at a dollar store the other day, and I was so close to buying a couple to try out. I was concerned that without a seal of any sort, they'd dry out. How does paint hold up with just the friction fit of the trays to seal it up?
I saw Marco's Ferrero Rocher video one day and, going into my local supermarket the next day, saw the exact same size FR chocolate boxes at 2-for-1. Happily stuffed with chocolate, I made a Marco FR wet palette - worked wonderfully.
3(4?) months later, I saw a local online supplier doing a *special* for the Army Painter wet palette and succumbed to 'official' wet palette envy. The internal lid that holds the brushes wasn't something that I was expecting so that was a very happy surprise.
That said, both work about the same, and the Army Painter box is more robust than a FR box, and it comes with precut paper.
In terms of price & convenience (you do have to cut the paper, but that just becomes a regular set-up activity), the FR wet palette can't be beaten, especially if you're new to the hobby... and if you're partial to chocolate.
So, if you're painting at home in the same place all the time 》Ferrero Rocher!
If you're taking your kit from place to place 》Army Painter.
Came for the Masterson review (I also got the Jazza box, just now started cracking into it) and am SO GLAD it's not just me on the paper being wonky. I've tried both following the soaking instructions and nothing, rinsing it with hot water, nothing makes the paper feel like a skin instead of just random paper. And the paints have soaked through into the sponge which messes with my color perception sometimes. Thank you for noting it and suggesting the parchment paper instead, probably going to use up what came in the box and swap over.
i've been wanting to buy a wet palette for a long time now, but never knew which one to get so this video was perfect for me!
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Right now am using a modified make up container. it is shallow and wide, so i have more than enough space. I sawed off the hinge, which gives a small opening for ventilation and lets me remove the lid so it doesn't get in my way. I am using paper towels to hold the water and self cut parchment paper as a surface. Works great for me!
This video was really helpful as i am about to buy my first wet palette, the Army painter one seems solid!
Big thanks buddy! I found this video super useful when working out which wet palette to buy. I ended up going with the Redgrass XL.
I use the Masterson's wet pallet. $5 from Michael's with a coupon...can't beat that!
Came here to say that! Michael’s or joanns here in the US always has these with a coupon, also can get the refills there !
Most of these hobby supply reviews make me second guess my purchases. It's nice to see I made a good choice with the Masterson wet palette. Good job and thank you for the insight.
I started out with masterson and i can whole heartedly agree that its an amazing wet palette. great video squidmar sir
Iv been using a home made wet pellet for about 5 years now, if been thinking about buying one but what iv got works fine. It was good to see your review on the different pallets, I think it will help me decide on which one I'll eventually buy.
Great video as always.
Interesting comparison! I have always just used a homemade wet palette made from a tupperware plastic box and some sponges.
Awesome video as always. I've just got the army painter one as my first wet palette, glad to hear it's a decent one.
Biggest problem I had trying to make my own in the UK was getting parchment paper since every store seems to just sell the wax coated ones that won't allow any water through at all.
Reynolds. Ocado do it the cheapest that I've found
Same issue here in Canada
I find that I liked the wax paper more then parchment to protect my paints from getting too wet from underneath , but the moisture of the box overall was enough to keep my paints wet. I’ve had it mold before the moisture and paints dries up.
@@silverhoney6969 Throw any kind of copper you have in your sponge. Coins, copper shaving, copper O ring, anything copper.
It's just non stick baking paper bro. Grab it at any supermarket in the UK. £2 for a roll that never runs out. I used to make my own for years with kitchen roll, baking paper and a tupperware container.
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The P3 sold me on wet palettes. It's useful as a stepping stone for those reluctant to make their own. But I've since moved on to the Sta-Wet and it's been my main WP for a few years now. I swear by it. Cannot paint without it.
Thanks for the video, persuaded me to go for the Army Painter one as space is an issue on my desk and having somewhere to keep my brushes is a nice bonus.
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Thanks for your insight. I don't have a lot of brushes and I certainly don't paint as mush as you. So, I think I like the Army Painter one best for me. The brush storage means I can keep everything together.
Good video Squidmar! Cheers from a fellow Swede! :) Honestly I don't get why people buy these so that's why I watched the video. I don't see the benfefit of a premade one. I use a small soap cup with low edges, have a dishcloth cut to size, and then add a paper used for separating sandwiches in food boxes. That said, the use of a wet palette is the thing that has helped me improve my painting, by far.
Thank you!!! Just looking into acrylic gouache, and this is best comparison of what will be new (cheap & awesome) equipment !
I use a small atomizer bottle to spritz over my paint dollops on the wet pallet. It minimizes the 'skinning'.
Me: i like wet palettes
Squidmer: YES!
ALL OF THEM!
Metal pencil case. Cellulose dish rag. Parchment paper. Keeps my paints fresh for ages. I’ve been painting with the same paints for just over a week now.
Also, it’s only about half a centimetre high. Effing fantastic.
Great video. I too use a Redgrass wet pallet. One thing I have found regarding the sealed in paint getting too wet between sessions is the washed out paint can be removed with a paper towel. If you use a gentle action the paint wants to stick to the towel more than the pallet leaving the paper surface intact for reuse. Of course it doesn't remove all the paint so it only works if you are painting off the same pallet of colours but on the plus side this helps matching the blends. It might seem obvious but a lot of my friends were in the habit of swapping paper each session which is fine if you want to but is very wasteful. I have kept paper in use over multiple sessions covering several weeks. Give it a try there is nothing to lose, because even if you damage the paper surface or have trouble removing the unwanted spoilt paint you were going to chuck the paper anyway.
So I know I am getting the red grass one for Christmas. Just came in the mail yesterday. So annoying knowing it is here but having to wait because of tradition
What are you, 12?
Just purchased the Army Painter wet palette over the Redgass one as the army painter was slightly cheaper. Very impressed so far much better than the cheap, made at home option I have been using for a long time
I think the army painter was my fav choice in that size! Good pick!
I love the how the Sta-wet doesnt translate to Stay Wet for non-native English speakers. English is silly.
Yeah, but this is also such an endearing thing about ESL people. It was even cute reading Paind instead of paint. Stupid sexy Emil.
As a Swedish speaker it took me a while to figure out what you even meant. Stah-Wet feels natural.
To be fair, it's doesn't read that way to me on the first take either.
More of a, "Huh. I guess that is supposed to read as 'stay-wet'."
Masterson's should just learn to spell.
@@adfdasdfadfadsfareae Standard spelling is harder to trade mark, I'd imagine.
I've been using a sandwich box that some ebay miniatures came shipped in for the last year. Wet paper towel and baking parchment paper.
👍Was pleasantly surprised when you didn’t poo poo the idea of using a diy wet palette. Thanks for the review and breaking down the pros and cons of each.
your amount of water makes it more like a floating palette not wet palette ^^ great video anyway =)
That's what I was thinking. I never use that much water! Even with it just damp the paints last about a month in my sta-wet. Plus I think the paper that comes with it isn't made to be laying in a puddle haha.
Thought the same, I'm not a great or even good painter but I have barely any running water in my palette when painting, but the sponge is soaked.
@@sharkh20 Also explains why he has to leave the lid open. ;-)
Your videos are always great, everything super coll, useful and well done!
Just a heads up, if you order or buy a redgrass wet palette, don't expect to use it anytime soon in the USA. It takes almost 2 months for delivery for how they deliver it from the UK. (my guess is cheap and slow).
Your choice of palettes to review were great. I own the Masterson, picked it up at a retail craft store. My sponge got mold, but only because I left it sitting with water for over a week. This is after months of use. It’s coming apart near the middle when I wash it, but only because I had to wash the mold off. I also have to cut my own paper, and I don’t mind it. I’m going to invest in an RGG version. I’m hoping the paint WONT separate overnight the way my Masterson unfortunately does. Other than the mold, and citadel paint separation after sitting overnight, it’s a great palette for the price🫰🏽
So I got the Masterson Sta-wet pallet and I don’t have a single issue with the paper made for it. I bought a large pack of the paper, when you do that it comes with instructions on how to use it. You have to let the paper sit in very hot water for about 15 mins and it then becomes very porous and will keep my paints fresh for up to a week. And i can reuse it a few times. Maybe give it another shot? Or maybe most of you did try that and still didn’t like it...well then do what works lol. Strangely I was gifted the Army painter one and that one drys out faster than the Masterson.
Dude your on a roll a video last wensday and then Saturday and then now that’s 3 videos in 3 days, great job.
Thanks Squidmar, always enjoy watching your videos. Very timely as I was looking to buy one. Ordered one using your link. 👍
As a noob, I am SO glad to see that the Sta-wet palette's paper is actually the problem and its not how I'm using it. That paper has been frustrating me for so long and it had me really scratching my head as it did not seem to be keeping my paints wet like other people's palettes I see in videos (even when I followed the instructions and pre-soaked the paper in warm water).
The Ferrero Rocher box one is a great idea, I have one leftover from Christmas :), I had only been using the inserts to mix paint in but now I will use the box too. Thanks for posting the other guys use of it. I have been using a sandwich box with some paper towel and greaseproof paper in but it is a bit deep so the Ferrero box will be much better. I might invest in a thin sponge to replace the paper towel now, actually I think there are some in the kitchen cupboard :)
The pre cut Reynolds baking sheets come in a box folded into quarters. If you cut along the folds, you get four sheets that are a pretty good fit for the Masterson’s palette. They’re a bit smaller than the full size of the palette, but I think it’s a fair trade off with how easy they are to prepare.
Warm tone. Nice and clear. I obviously talking about the voice. XD. You're the best, Squidmar!!!
For a home made palette, i started with using the box that came with my Army Painter Wash set. Worked great. A better solution is to buy a refill for the Army Painter wet palette. The plastic contained it comes in works perfectly as the wet palette. This is a great option if your local shop stocks those and you aren't sure if you want to pay for a full Wet Palette yet. The refill pack comes with papers, and sponge! If you decide to upgrade to an Army Painter palette, you already have refills!
If you buy the refill pack for the Army Painter wet palette, it comes in clamshell packaging which works just fine as a case
I used the mastersons for a few years until recently switching to the redgrass games ones; the reason was my mastersons sponges kept degrading and growing mold (even if copper in the bottom of the palette to discourage mold from growing). After I switched the sponge out for a new one for the seventh or eighth time I bit the bullet and get the redgrass games palette because the sponge is easier to wash without destroying it and because of it's anti-mold properties. I've been using it for a few months now and am super happy. I also got the bigger XL palette and I'm happier with the size for all my mixing needs.
I put the Army Painter wet pallet on my wishlist this year for Christmas and I'm glad it got your seal of approval.
I have it and love it! The brush holder is really handy
@@notLura I've been DIYing the passed year, so I'm excited to try it out. Provided I get it, of course.
I'm in the market for a wet pallet so this has been helpful. Cheers mate
RedGrasser here with the small one which is just the perfect size for me.
Started with a DIY one but parchment paper is difficult to find here since the one most sold for baking is coated on one side with some non-stock grease which just kill the osmosis/membrane effect you want from it.
Got myself a redgrass XL on 35% discount, and it's absolutely amazing, but your critique about the seals being too tight is definitely true. It is expensive, but I work at an Element Games, so it was a lot more affordable to me as a result.
I literally had an arguement with myself TODAY about whether or not to buy a wet palette. The army painter version is probably perfect for me. Thanks for the thorough review Emil, great video!
I love the army painter one. The top can be used as a dry pallet. It is small but fits on my bench
i received a redgrass games wet palette (and handle) as a gift, didn't realize they were so pricey but damn do i love it. got three packs of the papers and i have had no issue with it, as long as like you said you crack open the container if you are gonna leave it be for longer periods of times.
Been using my DIY version made with a take out container, paper towel/ now sponge, and parchment paper, 8” x 10” working area. Works great only drawback, high sides about a inch. I guess when I get ready I’ll speed money or find a locking plastic container with low sides.
I know it’s really small but a kid that used to come into my hobby store used an old GW grass tuft box and made a wet pallet out of it. It’s a place to start for some.
I’ve been using the red grass games small palette after struggling with the mastersons. The papers in the mastersons are horrible for miniature paint. And I’m lazy to keep cutting parchment, so the red grass is good for me. Word of caution, the papers can also disintegrate if left for too long. I’m talking after 1-2 weeks
Wait what? Disintegrating paper? Haven't seen that at all - let alone after 1-2 weeks.
There are mastersons palettes that come in a HUGE size. The normal size is good but if you want a monster palette, check your art store.
Also, some brands of baking parchment paper come precut that fit the normal size mastersons :)
Yeah, I saw Masterson’s in about 3-4 sizes from different sources/ art stores / online.
The wet palette move is RedGrass Orange, with Army painter replacement sheets. Enough room on the sides so the paper doesn't overlap, and you can keep it easily topped up with water.
Thank god I came across your videos a while back, wet pallets were totally foreign to me as a painter and oh boy do they work so well. Squidmar has taught and will continue to teach me well
I have been using the masterson for a bit. One of the nice things about it is that I can switch from painting minis to painting with heavy body acrylics on canvas. Great reviews.
You can even use paper towel cut to size as a sponge for a homemade wet palette
The RGG one is definitely beyond what I'm willing to spend. I made my own from a small sistema (tupperware-type) container and that has worked well so far. I'm interested in the Army Painter and Masterson ones too. I like the idea of one that lives in my "go box" for mobile use, and another larger one that is at my desk. Good video, I appreciate your run through of what you liked/disliked, thank you!
I have been using a Masterson Sta-Wet Super Pro, which I originally got to have an air-tight storage for my oil palette between sessions. It's way too big, honestly, but that's a minor thing most of the time.
I agree with you about their paper. You can tell it's meant to keep heavy body acrylics moist without making them runny. It will still keep your paints workable for hours but probably not the next day.
Was literally looking to buy a wet palette tomorrow so this video was great!
I bought and love the form of the Army Builder one, my biggest peeve with it is the papers start to curl if i gets too dry, after watching this im considering maybe trying magnets to hold the paper down
Or even weights? Like a plastic coated washer?
I know this is an older video but with the masters pallet ive found that if you use the raised area on the lid as a template for cutting the paper to fit it is easier.
I use a sta-Wet palette and I have been thinking I was using it wrong now I know it's the paper it came with. Thanks Emil you saved me from buying a new palette, now I just need to figure out how to get the citadel paints out of the pots without wasting a bunch.
If you're making your own, the brand Rosti Mepal have some good sandwich / storage boxes (like the Modula 550) that are quite low profile, and the one I have even has some ridging on the bottom which keeps the moisture level good by accident.
I like using the Masterson Pallet/sponge + redgrass games small paper available at my local game store. Parchment paper that I've bought have a bit too much silicone in the coating that causes the paint to slide around. At my painting level I'm not very good at gauging paint consistency so using the more textured redgrass games paper really helps me check the flow of paint from my brush.
Can't believe I haven't seen a review of wet palettes before - good subject, another great vid :)
hehe weird, I swear by the Masterson paper, I even use that with the army painter pallet as I accidentally warped the pallet with hot water, It is a night and day difference when you prepare the paper before painting by microwaving it submerged in water. The paper from the army painter dries my paints too fast, same with the paper that comes with the AK wet pallet.
Nice vid as always. I'd like to add just one thing: I have the XL Redgrass and I love her but its paper doesn't really work with some brands (for example Scale75 fantasy line). I replaced the paper with parchment and it works like a dream with any paint range I've tried so far
I tried the STA one the other day with kitchen parchment paper and the paints dried nearly immediately. My homemade one with paper towels, tuperware, and parchment paper outperformed it a million times over.
I may have too look at the red grass games box it's quite arid where I'm at and that might help if it's as air tight as you experienced.
Nice test. I used to have the Mastersson wet palette. Unfortunately, mold appeared after a few days. I no longer have the problem with the everlasting wet pallets.
Add a splash of hydrogen peroxide to the water before putting the sponge and paper in. This inhibits growth of both mold/mildew and does not noticeably affect the paint.
@@crystalzanic5056 thanks.
Thanks for the information - currently using the smaller of the redgrass games ones - big fan altogether, but can feel a bit cramped at times alright! Might need to make a purchase!!!
I like my red grass but I bought it because I couldnt find the masterssons, but I did buy the smaller one since its larger than my homemade. I found a very low tupperware and I strongly recommend sandwhich paper instead of parchment (butter paper??) Much better moist to paint (believe Miniac mentioned it as well). But that said I have had far less issues with paints breaking apart in red grass but on that note, they sell the moist-pad and paper seperatly so ... find a good container and usung those is probably the best recommendation from my side.