The saddest part of the whole thing is Hurrem didn't have anything to do with Ibriham's death, he dug his own grave by all that big talk like he was better than the Sultan... Ibrahim made my skin crawl
She did. Her relentless whispers to the sultan planted every seed of distrust... How often her words replayed in his heart whenever he was confronted with memories of his loyalty. Did Ibrahim poison the sultan? No. But she told him repeatedly that he did. She also lied about a coup with Mustapha in Bursa. Repeatedly. But they didn't plot against the Sultan
In such situation.. Even if ibrahim is your mortal enemy , you will feel a slight sadness because we cannot deny the fact that someone around you is no longer around..
You can understand his ambition as an often insulted slave. The little boy always trying to find his way out of a dark forest and never finding. He would have given his life for the Emperor despite his arrogance. He never wished death or harm to His Majesty. How history played out was divine justice
Ibrahim brought about his own death with his overweening arrogance and hubris. No one needed to slander him, they just made sure the sultan paid attention.
Well everyone's been saying that hurrem is a witch who bewitched him and a snake that's poisoned his mind since the beginning. No matter what sulieman said they refused to believe he really loved her.
@dannie4528 well, yeah, but even aside from loving her, it's not like he never punished her when she was wrong about something. They knew he had in the past. How could they think she had such control over him as to make him execute his best friend against his better judgment?
@@loriar1027its called slow poisoning of the mind in addition to the sultans own paranoia. If he could kill his own son outta fear, he could also kill his best friend. No one would take hurrems power seriously coz what can a woman inside a harem even do, but hurrem showed what she could do from behind the scenes coz she had influence on the most important guy in the empire as his lover lmao. She got rid of all her obstacles one by one nd became the only confidante of the sultan. Ibrahims case was a bit unique coz he had beef with a lot of people due to his background as a mere slave whose rapid rise in power nd exertion of authority made certain people mad (similar to hurrem tbh) in addition to complicated circumstances from various sources such as him negotiating by calling himself the real power behind the empire to foreign delegates, it wasn't just hurrem occasionally putting in things in his mind, it was a lot of things including himself.
After repeating this series 5 times it’s the first time I am crying for ibrahim , I can actually feel the sorrow hatice had faced during this time . Incredible acting❤
Right? I appreciate that even though she hated him and even tried to kill him herself, she honestly never expected Suleiman to do anything like this. Maybe banish him at most. She knew that Suleiman would be devastated and torn up over it.
@@TheKkf1015 It says a lot about her that her first response isn't to celebrate but instead got to comfort Suleiman. She's one of the few people in this series that shows genuine concern for people.
After all good things hurrem had done for hatice, she always blame hurrem for all her misfortunes.. even the death of Ibrahim,.. it is actually Ibrahim's doings.. because of his greediness, and arrogance,.. Even though it's just a movie,.. it teach us that greediness will not really beneficial to everyone..
Ibrahim came up from poverty. He had to fight for everything . So he became ruthless. Lost his way. I actually really liked this character. I respected his ruthlessness.
Respected his ruthlessness? He killed innocent people. He became arrogant, greedy and selfish. Leo being the one that made Hurrem swear revenge on Ibrahim.
@@Maimunahweeehe actually saved Hurrem from execution and she knew it therefore warned Leo to leave numerous times, had suleiman got a whiff of her relationship with Leo she too would've been a dead woman. Ibrahim did a lot bad things but he never tried to Hurrem or her children unlike Hurrem eliminating anyone that gets in her way. She killed numerous people, she poisoned her best friend gunihal and mustafa. She was on a mission to kill many. She was very jealous of Ibrahim's close friendship with Suleiman from the beginning that's what made her want to kill Ibrahim, she couldn't stand anyone getting close to the king other than herself. She wanted to kill all the other concubines due to the same reasons.
I’m so sick of mahimisreable blaming hurrem for every issue in her life 🤦🏻♀️ I swear the sky could fall and she’d still say it was hurrems fault 🤦🏻♀️ everytime her pinched sour face comes on the screen makes me wanna launch my phone 🤣
Ibrahim died because he forgot the reason powerful people are powerful. Much like Sigfreid and Roy the tiger tamers, they were accustomed to living with them, eating with them, sleeping with them and working with them. Even though they felt they were careful and knew the personalities of the tigers, one day they were remind who has the power. One of the tigers attacked the trainer during one of the thousands of shows they had done in Las Vegas. They raised that tiger from a cub, yet the trainer was lucky to survive. A lion doesn't have to warn you it is a lion, it is just true to it's nature. Suleiman is THE lion.....
i feel sad for nasuh, his sad face is so heart breaking. he lost sadika, nigar and now ibrahim the only person who mattered to him the most. he knew pasha deserved neither of this.
Great actor, he created with the writers a true villain, that at times you wanted to root for because you really wanted him to be a good person because he was so close to Suleiman! Great acting everybody does a great job in this show Thank you for your superb talents! Faye from Emmett Idaho
I feel Sad for Ibrahim ..i was waiting for his defeat but when I see him dead really hurt alot . He didn't deserve to be killed like that . Great warrior 🥲ended up bcz of arrogance .
Until one point I agree with you. It's very hard watching this scene.... He also had another part of character.. A good part.... But when I think of what he has done to other people then I think that he deserved it.... His mistake was that he forgot his real '' roots".... This is common of course nowadays also 😢
@@sonybramantio769Leo and Hurrem would've been executed if suleiman got his hand on Leo's diary, portrait drawings of her, secret meetings therefore she destroyed the evidence.
@@AS-yz2iz I am not impressed with Ibrahim, i was referring to Nasuh Effendi only...dude was super strong to remain true to who he really was, despite whatever Ibrahim did....That takes immense courage and selflessness... From his side....his friendship was so genuine, that's what i was saying...
@@Thasniya686 I understand. But, is it really commendable to stick by someone who treated his friend like garbage, caused him pain, became so arrogant, and never even apologized. I guess I consider that weak.
@@AS-yz2iz weak is like doing sth because one doesn't have a choice...but he had many choices...being truthful when Hatice sultan asked, informing Bali bey indirectly when he got suspicious....letting out some info that the public could hv taken into their hands (without appearing to be involved in it)....or let the sultan himself know somehow.....he did none of those......even when he got desperate, and could no longer stand the humiliation....he still brought the matter to ibrahim instead of throwing him under the bus.....
Hattice is superb in this episode ..such feeling I'm her cries..and many standing ovations for the actor who played Ibrahim I actually felt bad for him that he got greedy with the power
Hurrem kept complaining about Ibrahim but Sulieyman always ignored it. What he couldn’t ignore was all the deeds piling up and after seeing the scribes he knew he had to cut him down. So no Hurrem wasn’t his downfall she won because Ibrahim kept digging his grave
If only she comes to hurrem for the last time, she could save money and travel to ibrahim's family.. But nope, she prefer the sisters who never cares to slave. That's how her life messed up more
@@rusilmadronero5920 Hurrem would have protected her and would have done right by her had she been loyal. Hurrem considered her to be one of her most loyal servants until Hurrem realized how two faced Nigar was.
I think hureem showed her that much Help because she remembered who gave her the instructions to get where she is now it was nigar who told her what to do and how to behave
Listen also maybe she would've caused the child to die . Because neither she or hatice has sense. They both foolish. All would be avoided if she had listened to big woman of the harem an leave the married man. It's a curse Im of itself to do it . Life never goes well in the long run when we do that no matter how much we think we successful. Even our children feel it if not we the parents. What did she expect them to have a beheaded future with them walking with them heads in them hands with their daughter smh .
Poor Matrakchi, he has lost so many people he loved. The women all treated Hurrem like dirt, she was never given the respect she should have received as the Sultan’s legal wife because his mother was jealous of her position being usurped and she struck out at Hurrem time after time. ( I know, this is not factual, it’s just a show). Mahidevran lies, steals, physically assaults Hurrem but plays the victim every time things go wrong. Now without Ibrahim to run interference for her she is on her own . I wonder, if Mustafa knew all the dirty tricks and lies his mother pulled off how he would feel about his mother !
Out of everyone that stayed loyal to Ibrahim, Matrakçı is the one I most wish would have seen him for what he was. I'm still angry Matrakçı didn't send Nigar with her doughter.
Count how many times Hürrem played the victim too. Because she wasn't as innocent as she looked! Don't talk about Mahidevran only, because if Hürrem's kids knew what Hürrem did, they wouldn't be so calm with her! Don't look only to one side, but to the other too!
😂When Hurrem was determined to bring Rustem into the Council, Ayaz Pasha's facial expressions were like, "Well, I suppose this is why Ibrahim was so resolute." Oh boy, what on earth have I gotten myself into?
I just call Hatice Eeyore anymore. Her whole existence is sorrow and mourning. Even now when she has a reason to be so sad it feels as if everything has been this critical and cruel in her life. Its so hard to feel sorry for her. I liked her at first but it gets harder every episode and I stopped caring about 30 episodes ago lol.
oh mustafa staring at that galley which never got to ibrahim broke my heart all over again, ibrahim was like a father to him, little did he know he'd have the same fate 💔
I feel the most for the kids. Ibrahim's power plays and corruption put them in danger. And now they're left with Hatice, who is a naturally weak person blind to her husband's faults. If she brought Ibrahim and Hurrem together, especially after Hurrem saved their child, they could have had an unbeatable alliance. The sultan's legal wife, brother at arms, favorite sister, beloved daughter and favorite son on one side, who can stop them?
wept like baby for most part of this episode, knew it was coming but wasn't ready for ibrahim's departure. poor thing didn't deserve this. he might have been haughty but death wasn't the punishment for this crime. makes me happy that suleiman's reign wasn't the same after ibrahim pasha was murdered. paragali ibrahim pasha you'll always be famous. suleiman felt betrayed but what about the cold betrayal you served your friend/ brother, confidant on a golden platter? the fact that this was someone's life unsettles me and suleiman merely regretting doesn't make it better. how did he even live those 30 years knowing he had the boold of an innocent on his hands. its said that suleiman executed ibrahim on the same date on which julius ceaser was stabbed to death, he clearly knew what the entire story represented. suleiman felt betrayed but ibrahim was the one who was actually betrayed by the person he trusted the most, loved the most. i wish he had talked to ibrahim rather than stabbing him in such a way. such a coward suleiman was! he feared becoming like his father selim khan and look he's become what he feared!
Well spoken. He became the monster he feared. His mom warned him. And Hatice told him plainly. That broke him. Hurrem's triumph didn't make the sultan a happier man. Hurrem deserved death more for attempting to kill a prince twice.
Actress for this Hurrem character,I think her name is Maryam is the best facial expression that I have seen so far.. Congratulation to her,making this character so fantastic ❤.. Anybody agreed with me??😊
Ibrahim was not the only one with the arrogance but i still feel sad to see where he is buiried now his grave is not taken care of where as Hurrem and the others are in the same place Ibrahim had his goals but unlike any one he actually loved Sulyman just as much as Hurrem but with power wants more power and more greed Ibarhim paid the price but puting his dead body infront of Hatice was wrong how i love watching this i loose sleep lool justwhen i think il sleep after an episode its to good the acting is brilliant never even heard of Sulyman or Hurrem till i saw this now im obsessed with it
hurrem makes her own enemies. she had no business going and confronting sah just because her pet rustem didn't become the vizier but she went there and started a war. that is what she did with ibrahim too. she was mad at him just because he didn't let her see suleiman on the first day. she was jealous of him from the first day itself, that fool wanted to replace him since the very first day and then after teasing them when they attack she complains and whines like a victim
As much as Hurrem despised Ibrahim (wrongly) she never tried to kill him. Ibrahim made her swear revenge on him the moment he gave hurrem the poisoned sweet, and asked to either kill herself or Leo. Ibrahim killed an innocent man for nothing and took away most of the conscience Hurrem had left. But even then, she refused an opportunity to kill him because Hatice said how happy she was that Ibrahim is with her.
Ibrahim wanted to be Sultan or create a new state, new army. He had to be killed. He had everything and still wanted more. Hurrem never cared about power or wealth. Remember when she wanted to drink a poison and Afife saved her? She loved Sultan and her kids deeply. Ibrahim wanted to kill her and her kids. He was an evil psychopath. Hurrem had to be like that to protect herself, but she didn't enjoy it. Ibrahim did.
Sure Rustem wouldn't but nashua is the biggest twit ever he even betrays Suleiman in the end and get chased away like a dog dies in disgrace like his God Ibrahim
obviously these incidents did not happen exactly like this in the real history but I can't get my head around the fact how ibrahim ened up like this. he was the most talented and powerful grand vizier and bestfriend of the mightiest ottoman emperor. I heard he could speak 11 different languages. all the sultanas had a crush on him. how can a mighty pasha like him make such silly mistakes? how could he ever mock the sultan in front of foreign ambassadors. I guess other statesmen who were against him somehow plotted against him to make him fall from the sultans grace. A very tragic ending for such a mighty pasha. suleimans destructive behaviour starts from here. fun fact: suleiman woke up before ibrahim was killed so he broke his promise. hats off tothe actor whoever played Ibrahim's role. had a huge crush on his personality.
unfortunately this is exactly how it happened :( there are records dating back to the 16th century of the meeting that took place between ibrahim and the french ambassador monsiuer foret about the trade agreement. apparently the entire "taming the lion" thing is pretty real and what ibrahim said. some historians claim that suleiman wanted to loosen the burden on his shoulders and therefore he distributed powers to the viziers. since ibrahim was his confidant, brother, intelligent and a good diplomat he bestowed an absolute power over ibrahim, making him one of the richest and powerful people at that time. infact his wedding with muhsine hatun lasted for over 14 days (turks still believe ibrahim pasha was married to hatice, but the research says otherwise). his friendship with suleiman was already envied and after giving him near absolute power, it added more to the envy. but despite his many enemies ibrahim had some strong allies. hurrem's role in his execution is highly debated. she clearly hated ibrahim but there is no concrete proof about her involvement. now the only proofs historians could rely on were anecdotes noted by ambassadors of other countries. the ottoman imperial harem was very close knit and protected and therefore it was difficult for an outsider to get any information. so they had to rely on gossips and rumours and some servants of the harem. but i do believe she had a role to play because she was a sneaky woman, she hated ibrahim to his core. she might have tried to get rid of ibrahim, as much as ibrahim would've tried to get rid of her. moreover who knows what lies she influenced suleiman with in the sultan's private room. ibrahim grew arrogant as the years passed, he was even involved in the death of the then finance minister iskender celebi and when he passed away he confiscated his entire property. he was very wealthy, with a lot of loyal friends and allies. as you mentioned he was an incredible grandvizier, knew multiple languages and there fore hi popularity was increasing. some historians claim that foreign ambassadors and ministers referred to him as "ibrahim the magnificient" which made suleiman furious and a tad bit envious. now some historians claim that when ibrahim used the title of seraskar sultan during the persian campaign, that triggered suleiman's decision to execute him, while other claim that suleiman had ratified ibrahim calling himself "serasker sultan" but it was rising arrognce coupled with rising wealth, popularity, intelligence and rumours that triggered the execution. suleiman didn't tolerate any challenge to his throne and therefore out of jealousy, fear of rebellion and paranoia he had his bestfriend, brother, grand vizier killed/murdered rather than simply banishing him. its said that ibrahim's body was found thrown outside the gates of topkapi palace :/ he had no funeral and has no grave. there is a tomb on a roadside in istanbul that they claim is "probably" ibrahim pasha's grave :(
one thing that's consoling is that ayaz pasha never got to spend a lot of time in office, 3 years after he took charge he succumbed to small pox. such an ungrateful man, ibrahim literally appointed him as the 1st vizier
@@HarryR2015 it is shown at the time of sultan Suleiman's death. Most probably it was in the episode 134, I am not sure about the episode number but it was shown in this drama.
I really feel sorry for Hatice but,Ibrahim brought this upon himself.He thought he was untouchable just because the Sultan gave him the powers equal to him.His hubris destroyed him.
Hatice is crazy and so are he sisters and mahidevran always blaming Hurrem for their tragedies and losses instead of taking accountability for their dirty deeds
Even Allah hates arrogance.... There are hadith about arrogance. How far you reach you shouldn't forget where u come from. I know one of the people who was so arrogant he was phsycally strong,rich and proud. He used to looked down on everyone. Finally he was shot 5 times and killed.
It is sad that all blame for Ibrahim's death goes to Hurrem. Yes, of course, Hurrem wants to be rid of Ibrahim being so close confidante to Suleyman, but, his execution was mainly due to his own arrogance, conceitedness and greed. He was paving his own execution as his power grew.
It was kinda sad . At least her kids weren't killed . Like the mustafas son was . 😭. And they were always threatening Hurrum about killing her boys if suliman died . And Mustafa was to become sultan
Idk why hurrem didn’t use the love between mihrima and taslicali to her advantage instead of squishing it. That would have been direct access to mustafa
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I will never get tired of minute 10. The silence between Hurrem and Sulaiman is unreal
The saddest part of the whole thing is Hurrem didn't have anything to do with Ibriham's death, he dug his own grave by all that big talk like he was better than the Sultan... Ibrahim made my skin crawl
She did. Her relentless whispers to the sultan planted every seed of distrust... How often her words replayed in his heart whenever he was confronted with memories of his loyalty. Did Ibrahim poison the sultan? No. But she told him repeatedly that he did. She also lied about a coup with Mustapha in Bursa. Repeatedly. But they didn't plot against the Sultan
I agree that Hurrem was not at fault with either of those important deaths - Ibrahim's or Mustafa's. They both dug their own graves.
She did by sending the report and poisoning suleiman for decades
Of course...she planted seeds..ibrahim has given water nd needed essentials for growth...for his own death...
@@edithmasha3810 what goes around comes around. it's dishonorable to whine like a victim when you started the fight and lost.
In such situation.. Even if ibrahim is your mortal enemy , you will feel a slight sadness because we cannot deny the fact that someone around you is no longer around..
Nashu is so blind. After everything Ibrahim put him through he still feel revenge in his heart.
It’s called loyalty 😂
@@OlalekanBlessing-ch7qq it is called a slave mentality, abusers like ibrahim are very good at enslaving everyone under him.
I will miss Ibrahim. Great character. Huge part of this series.
You can understand his ambition as an often insulted slave. The little boy always trying to find his way out of a dark forest and never finding. He would have given his life for the Emperor despite his arrogance. He never wished death or harm to His Majesty. How history played out was divine justice
Even monsiuer foret understood why Ibrahim was killed and he saw him a couple times. But the others blamed Hurrem 😂😂
On the plus side the very handsome bali Bay is coming back. He's lovely ❤
This must have been at the beginning of Burak Ozcevit's career
I love Bali Bey!😊
FINALLY no more Ibrahim !!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏 his arrogance was as annoying as Firuze’s poems 😭😭😭
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Hhahhaaahahahahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Hatice, Gulfem, Mahidevran they always set together and plan to stop Hurrem but end up losing😂😂😂
Like Pinky and the Brain, never quite taking over the world 😂
Including Valide, Fatma and some of sha huban's trap
Satan is waiting for Hurrem. she will face justice.
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Ibrahim brought about his own death with his overweening arrogance and hubris. No one needed to slander him, they just made sure the sultan paid attention.
It strains credulity that the sisters would all blame Hurrem for Ibrahams death. Like, they think the Sultan is just a puppet? Smh
Well everyone's been saying that hurrem is a witch who bewitched him and a snake that's poisoned his mind since the beginning. No matter what sulieman said they refused to believe he really loved her.
@dannie4528 well, yeah, but even aside from loving her, it's not like he never punished her when she was wrong about something. They knew he had in the past. How could they think she had such control over him as to make him execute his best friend against his better judgment?
It's like they just want someone to blame for the situation. As if they're not the ones who came at her first lmao
Hurrem is blamed for everything. Hatice on ignorance and instability and hatred for Hurrem ultimately causes her own downfall. 😢
@@loriar1027its called slow poisoning of the mind in addition to the sultans own paranoia. If he could kill his own son outta fear, he could also kill his best friend. No one would take hurrems power seriously coz what can a woman inside a harem even do, but hurrem showed what she could do from behind the scenes coz she had influence on the most important guy in the empire as his lover lmao. She got rid of all her obstacles one by one nd became the only confidante of the sultan. Ibrahims case was a bit unique coz he had beef with a lot of people due to his background as a mere slave whose rapid rise in power nd exertion of authority made certain people mad (similar to hurrem tbh) in addition to complicated circumstances from various sources such as him negotiating by calling himself the real power behind the empire to foreign delegates, it wasn't just hurrem occasionally putting in things in his mind, it was a lot of things including himself.
Mahideveran anytime there’s a slight inconvenience in her life…HURREM 👹👹👹
After repeating this series 5 times it’s the first time I am crying for ibrahim , I can actually feel the sorrow hatice had faced during this time .
Incredible acting❤
The absolute shock on Hürrem's face is magnificent. She looked downright incredulous
Right? I appreciate that even though she hated him and even tried to kill him herself, she honestly never expected Suleiman to do anything like this. Maybe banish him at most. She knew that Suleiman would be devastated and torn up over it.
@@TheKkf1015 It says a lot about her that her first response isn't to celebrate but instead got to comfort Suleiman. She's one of the few people in this series that shows genuine concern for people.
After all good things hurrem had done for hatice, she always blame hurrem for all her misfortunes.. even the death of Ibrahim,.. it is actually Ibrahim's doings.. because of his greediness, and arrogance,..
Even though it's just a movie,.. it teach us that greediness will not really beneficial to everyone..
I hate hurrem
Sultan is wrong too...he did not explain to hatice
The Sultan is not obliged to explain his decisions@@alyaizzati647
its not just a movie, it was someone's life, its history. ibrahim was murdered in reality for a crime that didn't deserve death :(
She didn’t do anything good to Hatice
What a horrible way to tell Hatice. Just to show her the body, not to tell her first
It served as a warning..
@@Elketjeableso What she is right
I am still surprised that Ibrahim lasted this long. He was a great enemy and I’m sad the see the actor go.
yep, the worst thing is the actor left. he’s such a good actor
Ibrahim came up from poverty. He had to fight for everything . So he became ruthless. Lost his way. I actually really liked this character. I respected his ruthlessness.
Hurrem also had to fight for everything but she turned to evil and the dark side.
@@carolradovich7906 so did Ibrahim
He was a good musician and played violin with passion and his whole being. I give him credit for that ..
Respected his ruthlessness? He killed innocent people. He became arrogant, greedy and selfish.
Leo being the one that made Hurrem swear revenge on Ibrahim.
@@Maimunahweeehe actually saved Hurrem from execution and she knew it therefore warned Leo to leave numerous times, had suleiman got a whiff of her relationship with Leo she too would've been a dead woman.
Ibrahim did a lot bad things but he never tried to Hurrem or her children unlike Hurrem eliminating anyone that gets in her way. She killed numerous people, she poisoned her best friend gunihal and mustafa. She was on a mission to kill many.
She was very jealous of Ibrahim's close friendship with Suleiman from the beginning that's what made her want to kill Ibrahim, she couldn't stand anyone getting close to the king other than herself.
She wanted to kill all the other concubines due to the same reasons.
I’m so sick of mahimisreable blaming hurrem for every issue in her life 🤦🏻♀️ I swear the sky could fall and she’d still say it was hurrems fault 🤦🏻♀️ everytime her pinched sour face comes on the screen makes me wanna launch my phone 🤣
This is what happens when you become too greedy and selfish. Ibrahim basically killed him self.
But everyone blame hurem for everything bad
But Hatice knew nothing of his wrongdoings..
@@aliasudirman1219because in real life hurrem with her bedtalks did that. Don't worry as a woman you won't know history
@@SafavidAfsharid3197 maybe it's true. But as a hurem said. No one is innocent
Ibrahim died because he forgot the reason powerful people are powerful. Much like Sigfreid and Roy the tiger tamers, they were accustomed to living with them, eating with them, sleeping with them and working with them. Even though they felt they were careful and knew the personalities of the tigers, one day they were remind who has the power. One of the tigers attacked the trainer during one of the thousands of shows they had done in Las Vegas. They raised that tiger from a cub, yet the trainer was lucky to survive. A lion doesn't have to warn you it is a lion, it is just true to it's nature. Suleiman is THE lion.....
i feel sad for nasuh, his sad face is so heart breaking. he lost sadika, nigar and now ibrahim the only person who mattered to him the most. he knew pasha deserved neither of this.
Poor Matrakci.. another loved one gone for him
Great actor, he created with the writers a true villain, that at times you wanted to root for because you really wanted him to be a good person because he was so close to Suleiman!
Great acting everybody does a great job in this show Thank you for your superb talents! Faye from Emmett Idaho
As Ebbussud Effendi said Ibrahim was his own worst enemy.
I feel Sad for Ibrahim ..i was waiting for his defeat but when I see him dead really hurt alot . He didn't deserve to be killed like that . Great warrior 🥲ended up bcz of arrogance .
Until one point I agree with you. It's very hard watching this scene.... He also had another part of character.. A good part.... But when I think of what he has done to other people then I think that he deserved it.... His mistake was that he forgot his real '' roots".... This is common of course nowadays also 😢
You must see how innocent Leo death..
I feel the same
And he killed Iskender Celebi who was a great statesman - real history too. @@sonybramantio769
@@sonybramantio769Leo and Hurrem would've been executed if suleiman got his hand on Leo's diary, portrait drawings of her, secret meetings therefore she destroyed the evidence.
As much as they tried to blame Hurrem, it was Ibrahim himself that caused his end.
nasuh effendi's heart felt sympathy towards ibrahim...after all pasha did to him....commendable!
Commendable? Ridiculous, if you ask me. Ibrahim treated him like a doormat.
@@AS-yz2iz I am not impressed with Ibrahim, i was referring to Nasuh Effendi only...dude was super strong to remain true to who he really was, despite whatever Ibrahim did....That takes immense courage and selflessness...
From his side....his friendship was so genuine, that's what i was saying...
@@Thasniya686 I understand. But, is it really commendable to stick by someone who treated his friend like garbage, caused him pain, became so arrogant, and never even apologized. I guess I consider that weak.
@@AS-yz2iz weak is like doing sth because one doesn't have a choice...but he had many choices...being truthful when Hatice sultan asked, informing Bali bey indirectly when he got suspicious....letting out some info that the public could hv taken into their hands (without appearing to be involved in it)....or let the sultan himself know somehow.....he did none of those......even when he got desperate, and could no longer stand the humiliation....he still brought the matter to ibrahim instead of throwing him under the bus.....
@@AS-yz2iz Maybe it could also mean weak....guess i cant picture a fierce fighter, who is even extremely good at matrak to be so weak ...
The actors in this series are superb!!!
Hattice is superb in this episode
..such feeling I'm her cries..and many standing ovations for the actor who played Ibrahim I actually felt bad for him that he got greedy with the power
Hattice has cried in every episode since the first…she’s had lots of practice 😏
I just wanted to say the same 😂! She practiced so much it would be disappointing if she could not deliver a perfect trauma 😂
Bravo Ibrahim!!!…well played.
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Hurrem kept complaining about Ibrahim but Sulieyman always ignored it. What he couldn’t ignore was all the deeds piling up and after seeing the scribes he knew he had to cut him down. So no Hurrem wasn’t his downfall she won because Ibrahim kept digging his grave
It's messed up how Nigar didn't get to take her child. I hated her but I don't think she should have had to lose Esmanur
If only she comes to hurrem for the last time, she could save money and travel to ibrahim's family.. But nope, she prefer the sisters who never cares to slave. That's how her life messed up more
@@rusilmadronero5920 Hurrem would have protected her and would have done right by her had she been loyal. Hurrem considered her to be one of her most loyal servants until Hurrem realized how two faced Nigar was.
Nigar betrayed Hurrem several times even how much Hurrem wanted to help, cared and saved her. Her dumbness twisted her fate…
I think hureem showed her that much Help because she remembered who gave her the instructions to get where she is now it was nigar who told her what to do and how to behave
Listen also maybe she would've caused the child to die . Because neither she or hatice has sense. They both foolish. All would be avoided if she had listened to big woman of the harem an leave the married man. It's a curse Im of itself to do it . Life never goes well in the long run when we do that no matter how much we think we successful. Even our children feel it if not we the parents. What did she expect them to have a beheaded future with them walking with them heads in them hands with their daughter smh .
Here I am, completely immersed in this show... can't stop watching! Lots of greetings from Switzerland
Poor Matrakchi, he has lost so many people he loved. The women all treated Hurrem like dirt, she was never given the respect she should have received as the Sultan’s legal wife because his mother was jealous of her position being usurped and she struck out at Hurrem time after time. ( I know, this is not factual, it’s just a show). Mahidevran lies, steals, physically assaults Hurrem but plays the victim every time things go wrong. Now without Ibrahim to run interference for her she is on her own . I wonder, if Mustafa knew all the dirty tricks and lies his mother pulled off how he would feel about his mother !
I’m not sure if Mustafa knew everything his mother did to Hurrem, but he knew something.
Out of everyone that stayed loyal to Ibrahim, Matrakçı is the one I most wish would have seen him for what he was.
I'm still angry Matrakçı didn't send Nigar with her doughter.
Mustafa doesn’t know how evil his mom.
Count how many times Hürrem played the victim too. Because she wasn't as innocent as she looked! Don't talk about Mahidevran only, because if Hürrem's kids knew what Hürrem did, they wouldn't be so calm with her! Don't look only to one side, but to the other too!
But one thing for sure hureem didn't let her kids grow with such hate for the dynasty.
Hatice’s acting is so good
Like I said she mourns for the whole family
😂When Hurrem was determined to bring Rustem into the Council, Ayaz Pasha's facial expressions were like, "Well, I suppose this is why Ibrahim was so resolute." Oh boy, what on earth have I gotten myself into?
It seems to hard to live in such era.. OMG 😢
Ibrahim: Dies*
Everyone: Crying*
Meanwhile Hurrem: 😂🤣👌😄👍
He would have done the same thing
😂
And Hurem has the most weirdest laugh 🤣😂😂🤣 it's annoying but funny and creepy at the same time lol 🤣😆
I just call Hatice Eeyore anymore. Her whole existence is sorrow and mourning. Even now when she has a reason to be so sad it feels as if everything has been this critical and cruel in her life. Its so hard to feel sorry for her. I liked her at first but it gets harder every episode and I stopped caring about 30 episodes ago lol.
Hatice has no common- sense (she's in fact a rich brat). And Ibrahim has no limits, a slave to his own power 🤷.
oh mustafa staring at that galley which never got to ibrahim broke my heart all over again, ibrahim was like a father to him, little did he know he'd have the same fate 💔
7:32 Hurrem didn’t believe he’s dead, understandably because they told her that he’s dead 1 million times before though out the years.
Sumbul Agha is so wonderful
Yes. He is one of my favorites.
I feel the most for the kids. Ibrahim's power plays and corruption put them in danger. And now they're left with Hatice, who is a naturally weak person blind to her husband's faults. If she brought Ibrahim and Hurrem together, especially after Hurrem saved their child, they could have had an unbeatable alliance. The sultan's legal wife, brother at arms, favorite sister, beloved daughter and favorite son on one side, who can stop them?
Seeing mustafa crying for ibrahim made me crying
Ibrahim and Mustafá had a great bond
Pargali Ibrahim pasha will always be the great grand vizier ever in the ottoman's history
Ooh ooh I take my words back , I had forgotten that Ibrahim killed Leo who was innocent
Idris agha too iskender celebi too many more innocent people
As long as Ibrahim is dead, we will not hear “I’m Ibrahim…” again 😂
wept like baby for most part of this episode, knew it was coming but wasn't ready for ibrahim's departure. poor thing didn't deserve this. he might have been haughty but death wasn't the punishment for this crime. makes me happy that suleiman's reign wasn't the same after ibrahim pasha was murdered. paragali ibrahim pasha you'll always be famous.
suleiman felt betrayed but what about the cold betrayal you served your friend/ brother, confidant on a golden platter?
the fact that this was someone's life unsettles me and suleiman merely regretting doesn't make it better. how did he even live those 30 years knowing he had the boold of an innocent on his hands.
its said that suleiman executed ibrahim on the same date on which julius ceaser was stabbed to death, he clearly knew what the entire story represented. suleiman felt betrayed but ibrahim was the one who was actually betrayed by the person he trusted the most, loved the most. i wish he had talked to ibrahim rather than stabbing him in such a way. such a coward suleiman was! he feared becoming like his father selim khan and look he's become what he feared!
Well spoken. He became the monster he feared. His mom warned him. And Hatice told him plainly. That broke him. Hurrem's triumph didn't make the sultan a happier man. Hurrem deserved death more for attempting to kill a prince twice.
Actress for this Hurrem character,I think her name is Maryam is the best facial expression that I have seen so far.. Congratulation to her,making this character so fantastic ❤.. Anybody agreed with me??😊
The fact that suleiman curse ibrahim a year back cos he made him killed an innocent man is enough for ibrahim to eat his own medicine.
Nasuh efendi should have given esmanur to nigar, instead of sending her off to ibrahim's family .. Poor nigar.. But she chose that path ..
That's Nigar Fate.
Ibrahim killed Isdris Aga just because of his own scandal.also he want to kill Nigar also Hurrem now its his turn
Don't forget about Leo.. because of that Ibrahim had death sealed on white marmer floor.
Percam agha alsoo
You forgot about leo
Leo, percem agha, Iskender celebi
Ibrahim was not the only one with the arrogance but i still feel sad to see where he is buiried now his grave is not taken care of where as Hurrem and the others are in the same place Ibrahim had his goals but unlike any one he actually loved Sulyman just as much as Hurrem but with power wants more power and more greed Ibarhim paid the price but puting his dead body infront of Hatice was wrong how i love watching this i loose sleep lool justwhen i think il sleep after an episode its to good the acting is brilliant never even heard of Sulyman or Hurrem till i saw this now im obsessed with it
Ibrahim was dishonest and unfair. And always arrogant and abusive with his power. ( Best exemple: toxic ,,Love" to Nigar).
@@mariatoni5355 They all were in some way still don't think he deserved that his grave is not even taken care of
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The acting here is phenomenal!
Suleiman’s face of “I can’t believe I killed him”
And Hürrem’s face of “I can’t believe you killed him”
Ufff! Finally! How many episodes did I wait for Ibrahim's demise!
hurrem makes her own enemies. she had no business going and confronting sah just because her pet rustem didn't become the vizier but she went there and started a war. that is what she did with ibrahim too. she was mad at him just because he didn't let her see suleiman on the first day. she was jealous of him from the first day itself, that fool wanted to replace him since the very first day and then after teasing them when they attack she complains and whines like a victim
As much as Hurrem despised Ibrahim (wrongly) she never tried to kill him. Ibrahim made her swear revenge on him the moment he gave hurrem the poisoned sweet, and asked to either kill herself or Leo.
Ibrahim killed an innocent man for nothing and took away most of the conscience Hurrem had left. But even then, she refused an opportunity to kill him because Hatice said how happy she was that Ibrahim is with her.
Ibrahim wanted to be Sultan or create a new state, new army. He had to be killed. He had everything and still wanted more. Hurrem never cared about power or wealth. Remember when she wanted to drink a poison and Afife saved her? She loved Sultan and her kids deeply. Ibrahim wanted to kill her and her kids. He was an evil psychopath. Hurrem had to be like that to protect herself, but she didn't enjoy it. Ibrahim did.
Suleimans face always lights up with Mihrimah, his favorite!
I like Shah Sultan so much !! She looks so fine and confident. The real diva here🌹🌹
Ive felt the pain hatice felt ... Shes good at it ... Sewing your love one dead is the most painful goodbyes .
I cant wait for the episode where hurrem beats hatice and make her look Crazy in front of suleyman😂
No way to feel sorry for Ibrahim, actually, Süleyman didn’t know everything during the past 82 episodes, we do 😂😂😂
1:19:34 both mustafa and taslicali look so good in this scene
Happiest episode EVER!!!!! 👍😊
Goodness Hatice’screams 💔 so heartbreaking
How dare Nasuh sent away esmanur when she still have her mother??
Rustem would never have allowed Esmanur into his home.
Sure Rustem wouldn't but nashua is the biggest twit ever he even betrays Suleiman in the end and get chased away like a dog dies in disgrace like his God Ibrahim
maybe because they would've tracked her down and killed her too along with ibrahim's brother and father.
obviously these incidents did not happen exactly like this in the real history but I can't get my head around the fact how ibrahim ened up like this. he was the most talented and powerful grand vizier and bestfriend of the mightiest ottoman emperor. I heard he could speak 11 different languages. all the sultanas had a crush on him. how can a mighty pasha like him make such silly mistakes? how could he ever mock the sultan in front of foreign ambassadors. I guess other statesmen who were against him somehow plotted against him to make him fall from the sultans grace. A very tragic ending for such a mighty pasha. suleimans destructive behaviour starts from here. fun fact: suleiman woke up before ibrahim was killed so he broke his promise. hats off tothe actor whoever played Ibrahim's role. had a huge crush on his personality.
unfortunately this is exactly how it happened :(
there are records dating back to the 16th century of the meeting that took place between ibrahim and the french ambassador monsiuer foret about the trade agreement. apparently the entire "taming the lion" thing is pretty real and what ibrahim said.
some historians claim that suleiman wanted to loosen the burden on his shoulders and therefore he distributed powers to the viziers. since ibrahim was his confidant, brother, intelligent and a good diplomat he bestowed an absolute power over ibrahim, making him one of the richest and powerful people at that time. infact his wedding with muhsine hatun lasted for over 14 days (turks still believe ibrahim pasha was married to hatice, but the research says otherwise). his friendship with suleiman was already envied and after giving him near absolute power, it added more to the envy. but despite his many enemies ibrahim had some strong allies.
hurrem's role in his execution is highly debated. she clearly hated ibrahim but there is no concrete proof about her involvement. now the only proofs historians could rely on were anecdotes noted by ambassadors of other countries. the ottoman imperial harem was very close knit and protected and therefore it was difficult for an outsider to get any information. so they had to rely on gossips and rumours and some servants of the harem. but i do believe she had a role to play because she was a sneaky woman, she hated ibrahim to his core. she might have tried to get rid of ibrahim, as much as ibrahim would've tried to get rid of her. moreover who knows what lies she influenced suleiman with in the sultan's private room.
ibrahim grew arrogant as the years passed, he was even involved in the death of the then finance minister iskender celebi and when he passed away he confiscated his entire property. he was very wealthy, with a lot of loyal friends and allies. as you mentioned he was an incredible grandvizier, knew multiple languages and there fore hi popularity was increasing. some historians claim that foreign ambassadors and ministers referred to him as "ibrahim the magnificient" which made suleiman furious and a tad bit envious. now some historians claim that when ibrahim used the title of seraskar sultan during the persian campaign, that triggered suleiman's decision to execute him, while other claim that suleiman had ratified ibrahim calling himself "serasker sultan" but it was rising arrognce coupled with rising wealth, popularity, intelligence and rumours that triggered the execution. suleiman didn't tolerate any challenge to his throne and therefore out of jealousy, fear of rebellion and paranoia he had his bestfriend, brother, grand vizier killed/murdered rather than simply banishing him.
its said that ibrahim's body was found thrown outside the gates of topkapi palace :/
he had no funeral and has no grave. there is a tomb on a roadside in istanbul that they claim is "probably" ibrahim pasha's grave :(
@@chaiwithchipsthank you for the deep insight. Whatever it was, the ottoman history is a fascinating tale to tell. I am a fan from Bangladesh
Allahım sana şükürler olsun izleyebiliyorum burdan❤️
Something about Lufti gives me the creeps.
one thing that's consoling is that ayaz pasha never got to spend a lot of time in office, 3 years after he took charge he succumbed to small pox. such an ungrateful man, ibrahim literally appointed him as the 1st vizier
Mercan agha looks like an undeetaker😅
😂😂😂
I feel sad for ibrahim😢. He has great love for sulymon!! His last word "inkyaram ".😢
I think they both had a romantic attachment towards each other, not sexually but romantically, they were linked to each other
@@HarryR2015I think so
And Sultan Suleiman's last word before death was 'Ibrahim '.
@@sridipathakur8684 where did you read that from?
@@HarryR2015 it is shown at the time of sultan Suleiman's death. Most probably it was in the episode 134, I am not sure about the episode number but it was shown in this drama.
I really feel sorry for Hatice but,Ibrahim brought this upon himself.He thought he was untouchable just because the Sultan gave him the powers equal to him.His hubris destroyed him.
Hurrem knows when to gloat and when to sympathize. It's a unique gift.
Hes running out of sisters 😂😂😂
They always giving the most difficult tasks to matrakchi smh
Mahidevran is so evil I can’t stand to even hear her voice😡
Hatice is crazy and so are he sisters and mahidevran always blaming Hurrem for their tragedies and losses instead of taking accountability for their dirty deeds
Even Allah hates arrogance.... There are hadith about arrogance. How far you reach you shouldn't forget where u come from. I know one of the people who was so arrogant he was phsycally strong,rich and proud. He used to looked down on everyone. Finally he was shot 5 times and killed.
Even a slightest bit of arrogant person is not allowed in jannah
Lord, now we have the three sisters of the apocalypse! At least Ibrahim was a straight shooter. These women are nuts!
No more Ibrahim, feels really pathetic, i am surprised how much it hurted Suleiman
36:10 LOUDER MUSTAFA PASHA, LOUDER
Mahiduran every time a problem happens:Hurrem did it
It is sad that all blame for Ibrahim's death goes to Hurrem. Yes, of course, Hurrem wants to be rid of Ibrahim being so close confidante to Suleyman, but, his execution was mainly due to his own arrogance, conceitedness and greed. He was paving his own execution as his power grew.
Ibrahim hat geerntet, was er gesät hat!!!!
Yes
Where did you go Ibrahim Pasha? You and hurrem characters are awesome.
If Hatice wanted to really hurt Sulieman she should have jumped right then. It would have eaten him up
Why is Nigar watering the grave? There's no flowers,weed or nothing. She have completely lost her mind. Her and Hatice have a SICK kind of love
1:28:41 why Hurrem is after mahi in the line!!!? Should be the 1st she’s the haseki
It was kinda sad . At least her kids weren't killed . Like the mustafas son was . 😭. And they were always threatening Hurrum about killing her boys if suliman died . And Mustafa was to become sultan
I don't know but the sisters guard is so creepy like her . They look like the Adams family of the ottoman dynasty
Miss you my dear Imbrahim❤😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢....😩😩😩😩😩😩
Friend like Matarkchi played very well
dpat nag explain c suleyman ang dahilan sa kamatayan ni Ibrahim para maintindihan nila kung bakit humantong sa ganung desisyon..
ibrahim diess but it had not got lot's of advantage for hurrem but a lot for shah huban
_Why_ does Hurrem only speak in whispers, now??
It's highly irritating.
because in islamic culture , just The Satan whispers
She was sick in this season she gonna leave soon and be replaced by another actress
It sounds better
How does hureem walk with that wiggly effect lol doesn't her body hurt?
Has anyone noticed that the more evil Hurrem becomes the more she whispers???
Wierd.
I don't think you have watched the entire series .....
Idk why hurrem didn’t use the love between mihrima and taslicali to her advantage instead of squishing it. That would have been direct access to mustafa
So he answers his son as to why Ibrihim was executed but his son nor he ever explain it to anyone else.
1536...such a sad day but very understanding after reading about it..
Harice saying "he is in paradise now" 😏🙄🙄