Joan is a fantastic actress. Most people think being a dramatic actress is harder than being a comedic actress buts its not. Comedy is harder. Stand up is even harder. Yes I know its a show that is rehearst but a lot is improv and Joan was the absolute best at improv. It just saddens me that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't take her seriously as a actress. She was brilliant in everything she did.
So accurate. She was unfairly hated by many and I think it was almost entirely because she was a Female and white (therefore predjudice for any jokes revolving around peoples race or ethnicity) which is so dumb because she's jewish and for one THEY'RE JUST JOKES, and honestly her jokes were THE BEST, they were blunt, brutal, dry, and had her audiences HYSTERICAL because she was THAT TALENTED. Its a shame she had to go through the loss of her husband and then passed away not long ago. We need more strong female roles in comedy, acting, and in the world.
You're so right. She was an uber talent. I loved her as I grew older in my own life I began to understand her more and more. I hate that we lost her they way, and when, we did. I feel like we all lost her. Not just Melissa and the family. God bless them.
WELL...Joan was Tony nominated for Sally MArs...she won an EMMY for best daytime talk show host....she chose not to continue that show. I'd say she got her "kudos"...and at a point, aside from booking and booking dates...at age 80, she was satisfied with her life....had 2 cable and one internet show. Amazing.
I only got thru the first 9 1/2 minutes. Heartbreaking. More so, now that Joan has past away. Kudos to Joan & Melissa for portraying themselves...but It made it even harder to watch. Nice family. Great people.
Thank you for uploading this. You do not know how important this was to me. You didn’t even know until I just finished watching it all. Wow. All I can say is wow to these two women
In real life Melissa actually took the call. A police officer called and asked for Joan and Melissa said she wasn’t there. The officer said “Oh okay well can you tell her that her husband in dead” Joan confirmed this in a TV appearance in the UK.
Edgar DID screw Joan’s career up and TPTB begged her to fire him, but she simply couldn’t and he caused her career to collapse. He then left her with so many debts in death, too. So sad that Johnny Carson didn’t reach out to Joan after this tragedy and help her through this.
Joan and Melissa are playing themselves and acting out a real tragedy that really happened to them - for the public's entertainment? Seriously? Am I the only one who finds this incredibly weird? Maybe this drama was therapeutic for them in some strange way. But it really baffles me that they were able to act out true scenes, depicting the real life suicide of their husband and father. That's so incredibly personal and - you would assume, private - wasn't it terribly painful to re-enact it all??? Thanks for this rare upload - if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I wouldn't have believed it!
@@Yonarer Well it was their tragedy so they were fully entitled to do with it whatever they wanted. I just think a made for TV movie is strange therapy but hey, I'm British. We are the most introverted and repressed nation on Earth, so over sharing anything personal is anathema to us!
Joan wrote this, and then they played each other. This was a huge help to them to work through their grief. Also to help so many other families dealing with suicide. I can't even imagine the amount of courage it must have taken to do that.
@@megankazukibuttons9334 That's an excellent point, and you make it eloquently. Joan Rivers was indeed a very courageous human being, as was evident throughout her life. This autobiographical, deeply personal movie is yet more evidence - were it needed - of what a remarkable woman she was. As a comedian and personality, I loved and admired her hugely. Joan wrote some inspirational self-help books, one of which entitled 'Bouncing Back' was a great comfort to me at a low time in my life. People are unaware that after her husband's suicide, she became an inspirational speaker and counsellor on a very small and discreet scale. She wanted to help others whose lives had been blighted by suicide, and I'm sure she did. God bless her, the world is not half so much fun without her in it.
Every family has it episode of struggle, success, failure, hurt, pain, disappointment, rebirth, moving on, and so on and so on, decline, and finally decapitation. The ones left pick up the pieces and relocate, if only to the next room, across the street or where ever, and then put it all behind except for temporary momentary memories. The world changes. But for some, the memories come back and haunt. Then history repeats itself over and over. It all happens to someone else.
Joan said on Howard stern years later. “Someone called and said they wanted to talk to Joan and she wasn’t home ,and the person said tell your mother your dad killed himself in a hotel room....
He bottled everything upbecause he couldn't trust her. Consider this. The one time he DID confide in her, she went straightaway and betrayed his trust. If he was legitimately a "thinking" man as they constantly portray here in this movie, then he may have had legitimate 'reasoning' (as opposed to a "reason") for wanting her not to tell Melissa. Could it be that he wanted to tell Missy himself??? Could it be that he was testing Joan with something seemingly small to her in order to see if he could trust her with much deeper things later? This man (Edger) kept EVERYTHING in aa a result of her omission of trust. Then, he imploded. #VerySad
At the 10 minute mark, Melissa hits the nail on the head when she talks about all the things her dad will miss because of his suicide. What a pitiable selfish man.
but what is that? a movie? or a serie...i even know nothing about this video and i thought it was maybe a episode dedicate to Joan for her deat... but if this a film Melissa and Joan act very well *.*
Personally I think it's.. Was Awesome... of the hotel to send the stuff back without selling it...to the paparazzi ... I mean did th ey not sell it to the paparazzi. .. It had to be a pretty sophisticated hotel to do that... To some degree. .. I can see Joan not want to see that tape......ouch! Even though celebrity said they weren't left with nothing and she always had a place to go.. if you been ever in a position where you're really without nothing.. I mean no home no house no family... Barely any clothes .no food.no money ,no regards that you are getting money... that's really torn down... .. That I know for sure is even more unbearable... Thanks!
I know that people grieve different ways and no one can judge... not saying joan and melissa werent devastated by the lost of their husband and father... BUT I feel like making a movie about this and star in it... seems kinda weird and distasteful ...
Frank Gzz America's Boyfriend Depression is easily detectable on functional MRI as significantly impacting blood flow and brain function. His executive function was severely impaired.
I like Joan but she should've been nicer to Edgar - maybe laid off the anti-marriage jokes. That's what happens when a spouse gets swallowed by their careers.
Edgar let Joan down many times. Yes she was a star and hugely talented, and she made the mistake of letting her not very talented husband manage/produce her. Edgar was a control freak, and drunk with power. He was difficult, caused problems for her with TV executives and lost her a big TV series because people didn't want to work with him. I think Joan sold herself short when she married him, she was very loyal but ultimately they were headed to the divorce courts because he was a lousy husband. Very sad for her and their daughter that he took that way out. As with many suicides, there was a lot of anger and resentment on his part. I don't think his male ego ever forgave Joan for being more successful, more popular, more bankable, more everything than he was.
I miss this beautiful gorgeous woman love you Joan May you Rip
This is an excellent movie. Their journey brought me to tears, many times. Love is forever.
Joan is a fantastic actress. Most people think being a dramatic actress is harder than being a comedic actress buts its not. Comedy is harder. Stand up is even harder. Yes I know its a show that is rehearst but a lot is improv and Joan was the absolute best at improv. It just saddens me that mainstream Hollywood wouldn't take her seriously as a actress. She was brilliant in everything she did.
So accurate. She was unfairly hated by many and I think it was almost entirely because she was a Female and white (therefore predjudice for any jokes revolving around peoples race or ethnicity) which is so dumb because she's jewish and for one THEY'RE JUST JOKES, and honestly her jokes were THE BEST, they were blunt, brutal, dry, and had her audiences HYSTERICAL because she was THAT TALENTED. Its a shame she had to go through the loss of her husband and then passed away not long ago. We need more strong female roles in comedy, acting, and in the world.
You're so right. She was an uber talent. I loved her as I grew older in my own life I began to understand her more and more. I hate that we lost her they way, and when, we did. I feel like we all lost her. Not just Melissa and the family. God bless them.
Oh how I miss Joan Rivers & Joan & Melissa’s Show so much many laughs sometimes tears. Just miss Joan she made me laugh 😂
Oh how I miss Joan Rivers & Joan & Melissa’s Show so much many laughs sometimes tears. Just miss Joan she made me laugh 😂
WELL...Joan was Tony nominated for Sally MArs...she won an EMMY for best daytime talk show host....she chose not to continue that show. I'd say she got her "kudos"...and at a point, aside from booking and booking dates...at age 80, she was satisfied with her life....had 2 cable and one internet show. Amazing.
Mother and daughter look so much alike..♡
I've been looking for this for about 10 years. Thank you so much. You're awesome.
I miss her
Thank you thank you! I remember watching this when I was little.
Me too
I miss Joan Rivers. Loved the movie. Watching it again.
It seems as though this movie was very therapeutic for the both of them. It's very touching... 😪
That's why it was made
This must have been so hard to make. I just can't imagine
🤣🤣🤣
Been wanting to see this ever since Joan talked about it on Piece of Work. Thanks for taking the time to post.
Same!
I only got thru the first 9 1/2 minutes. Heartbreaking. More so, now that Joan has past away. Kudos to Joan & Melissa for portraying themselves...but It made it even harder to watch. Nice family. Great people.
Thank you for uploading this. You do not know how important this was to me. You didn’t even know until I just finished watching it all. Wow. All I can say is wow to these two women
RIP joan rivers tears tears tears that now fall from heaven
17.24 was seared in my memory all these years...heartbreaking..
Thank you so much for uploading this. I've been searching it out for years and years. Such great quality too. Sparklesupreme, I speak your name.
I hope Melissa and her family are doing well.
Omg thank you so much for this iv been looking for this everywhere for like 4 years
No problem!! I had to see it so found a copy! :)
crazzi-j north same 💫💫💫
14kruitben right what an incredible actress Joan was and yet she never got any serious roles what a shame
It's very hard finding Joan Rivers material in the UK now. Thank you for uploading this.
I know it’s so annoying :(
You’re cute
Just watching about this amazing lady’s life
I have a feeling that this film wasn’t really about making a film for entertainment purposes. I think it was a form of catharsis.
i actually ended up buying a dvd copy of this because of how absurdly impossible it is to find online so thanks for this!
Melissa is such a princess 👑
Come back Joan
😢😢😢😢😢
2 fabulous ladies!!
In real life Melissa actually took the call. A police officer called and asked for Joan and Melissa said she wasn’t there. The officer said “Oh okay well can you tell her that her husband in dead” Joan confirmed this in a TV appearance in the UK.
My God, you would hope the police were more sensitive and better trained than that!
Melissa was so pretty back then so was Joan
Love this movie classic
Well I just cried for a half hour 👌
Back then Melissa looked almost identical to Joan.
So sad that her dad killed himself and now Joan's gone too.
I watched 10/17/19.
Yes she looked like her mom until her mom had too much plastic surgery
are we doing this now? i watched 08/27/20 😂
@@marc44444 I know right ha ha
Joan and Melissa looking at the contents of his suitcase was sad..."his favorite pen."
Edgar DID screw Joan’s career up and TPTB begged her to fire him, but she simply couldn’t and he caused her career to collapse. He then left her with so many debts in death, too. So sad that Johnny Carson didn’t reach out to Joan after this tragedy and help her through this.
Joan would've been a great actress.. Shame she didn't get the chance... X
Thank you!!! I've waited years to see this!
17:34 it's unbelievable she wasnt accepted as an actress. This is top notch.
That was all real not acting for sure
@@chloekit4861 it actually happened this in real life, she admitted this when they were talking about his suicide on her daytime talk show
how do you star in a movie about the worst thing you can go through?
My question too... 😢😢😡😢😢😢
The Reason For them to Heal from this tragedy
To help others who have loved ones who have commit suicide
Good movie... thank u!
The music is amazing
Thank you for saving me❤, God Thanks you both. My love is your love. Forever! Holy kiss! I love you
Thank you for this xx
Thank you!
RIP❤️
Heartbreaking
So tragic..
School costs $17,000 a year? Lol, now I'm crying.
is it more expensive now?
Joan and Melissa are playing themselves and acting out a real tragedy that really happened to them - for the public's entertainment? Seriously? Am I the only one who finds this incredibly weird?
Maybe this drama was therapeutic for them in some strange way. But it really baffles me that they were able to act out true scenes, depicting the real life suicide of their husband and father. That's so incredibly personal and - you would assume, private - wasn't it terribly painful to re-enact it all???
Thanks for this rare upload - if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I wouldn't have believed it!
Let alone cathartic as well as shamefully self-serving.
@@Yonarer Well it was their tragedy so they were fully entitled to do with it whatever they wanted. I just think a made for TV movie is strange therapy but hey, I'm British. We are the most introverted and repressed nation on Earth, so over sharing anything personal is anathema to us!
Joan wrote this, and then they played each other. This was a huge help to them to work through their grief. Also to help so many other families dealing with suicide. I can't even imagine the amount of courage it must have taken to do that.
@@megankazukibuttons9334 That's an excellent point, and you make it eloquently. Joan Rivers was indeed a very courageous human being, as was evident throughout her life. This autobiographical, deeply personal movie is yet more evidence - were it needed - of what a remarkable woman she was. As a comedian and personality, I loved and admired her hugely.
Joan wrote some inspirational self-help books, one of which entitled 'Bouncing Back' was a great comfort to me at a low time in my life. People are unaware that after her husband's suicide, she became an inspirational speaker and counsellor on a very small and discreet scale. She wanted to help others whose lives had been blighted by suicide, and I'm sure she did. God bless her, the world is not half so much fun without her in it.
Heart surgery is known for depression afterward.
I wonder why
That's Naiomi from Mamma's Family 😁
Melissa is actually not a bad actress
Interesting they leave out Joan hearing the news. I understand that. It would be almost impossible to play. And we do see her coming to terms with it.
18:11 This joke is GOLD 😂😭
And that joke would just piss off people on Twitter if it aired today
@@jtlovescodelyoko Which is good 😂 I’m sure it pissed people off back then, they just didn’t have Twitter.
What is this??? How am I just finding out about this??? Joan actually was a fantastic actress!
I know, right???!!!!
This is AMAZING!!!!
I thought everyone knew they made a tv movie about the suicide of her hubby/father
I googled Joan and then searched for this.....I didn’t realise. What a woman!!
Every family has it episode of struggle, success, failure, hurt, pain, disappointment, rebirth, moving on, and so on and so on, decline, and finally decapitation. The ones left pick up the pieces and relocate, if only to the next room, across the street or where ever, and then put it all behind except for temporary momentary memories.
The world changes. But for some, the memories come back and haunt. Then history repeats itself over and over. It all happens to someone else.
thank you fre sharing
I thought in real life Melissa herself actually took the call?
Joan said on Howard stern years later. “Someone called and said they wanted to talk to Joan and she wasn’t home ,and the person said tell your mother your dad killed himself in a hotel room....
@@jimmyl324 People are insane & the things they do are outrageous .
Yeah some awful person told her father killed himself and then hung up
Your tough Melissa.. people like me need heros big or small.in the so called. limelight or not!!!!
Boy, you look like your mom!!!!
Thanks!!!!
He bottled everything upbecause he couldn't trust her.
Consider this. The one time he DID confide in her, she went straightaway and betrayed his trust. If he was legitimately a "thinking" man as they constantly portray here in this movie, then he may have had legitimate 'reasoning' (as opposed to a "reason") for wanting her not to tell Melissa. Could it be that he wanted to tell Missy himself???
Could it be that he was testing Joan with something seemingly small to her in order to see if he could trust her with much deeper things later?
This man (Edger) kept EVERYTHING in aa a result of her omission of trust. Then, he imploded. #VerySad
Did people just. Or talk when the answered the door he handed her the bag and just walked away without saying anything
Right. I was confused there
@@jojopierson78 good on ya
What is this? I thought it was a documentary by the title. I'm high af.
Joan and melissa are playing themselves ?
Yes obviously lol
On 17:39 Joan was not acting you can see her real pain
At the 10 minute mark, Melissa hits the nail on the head when she talks about all the things her dad will miss because of his suicide. What a pitiable selfish man.
She looks just like her mom. The only thing Edgar gave her was the dark hair
Wait, wth. They did a real movie together? Shook 👀
Is was a tv movie i remember watching it when i was a teen..about the suicide.
Melissa was a senior at Penn at 19? doubtful?
Very sad...
And to think it was all Debbie Gibson's mom's fault 😔
but what is that? a movie? or a serie...i even know nothing about this video and i thought it was maybe a episode dedicate to Joan for her deat...
but if this a film Melissa and Joan act very well *.*
Melissa is a pretty girl ✨
In real life the journalist called Melissa.
Personally I think it's..
Was Awesome... of the hotel to send the stuff back without selling it...to the paparazzi ...
I mean did th ey not sell it to the paparazzi.
.. It had to be a pretty sophisticated hotel to do that... To some degree.
.. I can see Joan not want to see that tape......ouch! Even though celebrity said they weren't left with nothing and she always had a place to go..
if you been ever in a position where you're really without nothing..
I mean no home no house no family...
Barely any clothes .no food.no money ,no regards that you are getting money...
that's really torn down...
.. That I know for sure is even more unbearable...
Thanks!
Is this Melisa or an actress?
That's Melissa
Lol...how can you not tell its both of them. Besides it says starring Melissa Rives and Joan Rivers...lol
This manager/PA and Melody are similar lol
THINK OF THE JOKES Joan MIGHT HAVE MADE ABOUT Heidi Abramowitz COMING TO Edgar's FUNERAL OR TO HERS, JOANS
I know that people grieve different ways and no one can judge... not saying joan and melissa werent devastated by the lost of their husband and father... BUT I feel like making a movie about this and star in it... seems kinda weird and distasteful ...
Where was Ben Stein at Shiva?
must be the worst movie, ever made. I still love Joan Rivers. she makes me ...happy.
Lol...its so true. I remember watching this as a kid...but i didn't get how bad it was. But how can one not love Joan ❤
Who plays the assistant?
Kerstin Dahlqvist Dorothy Lyman, I believe.
It was. I'd recognize "Opal Gardner's" face anywhere :)
@@ClarenceFisher lol
Suicide is very sad. But very selfish.
Frank Gzz America's Boyfriend Depression is easily detectable on functional MRI as significantly impacting blood flow and brain function. His executive function was severely impaired.
Shameless exploitation. Money is their god
Melissa looks pretty.
I really don't want to watch this.
I think she got him killed and framed it as a suicide.
Haha why do you think that? I guess she didn't how badly it would set her back in her career!
Your an idiot
How you know?
Shut up you fool! It was a selfish suicide by a man who wanted to punish his wife for being more successful than him.
This was terrible...
I like Joan but she should've been nicer to Edgar - maybe laid off the anti-marriage jokes. That's what happens when a spouse gets swallowed by their careers.
Edgar let Joan down many times. Yes she was a star and hugely talented, and she made the mistake of letting her not very talented husband manage/produce her.
Edgar was a control freak, and drunk with power. He was difficult, caused problems for her with TV executives and lost her a big TV series because people didn't want to work with him. I think Joan sold herself short when she married him, she was very loyal but ultimately they were headed to the divorce courts because he was a lousy husband.
Very sad for her and their daughter that he took that way out. As with many suicides, there was a lot of anger and resentment on his part. I don't think his male ego ever forgave Joan for being more successful, more popular, more bankable, more everything than he was.