EVOLUTION OF SAINTS ROW IS TERRIBLE!

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  • @xtremeniga
    @xtremeniga 2 года назад +166

    The burying scene is a metaphor for the series

    • @33GLOCK
      @33GLOCK 2 года назад +19

      literally

    • @Amb252
      @Amb252 2 года назад +8

      Facts the reboot is ass

    • @mxlo1385
      @mxlo1385 2 года назад

      @@Amb252 Reboot not even ass when u play it🤦🏿‍♂️

    • @13thNobodyprod.
      @13thNobodyprod. 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I'd say it's a metaphor.
      For how it used to be.
      It's not like how it started off anymore and I view it in a good light.
      Change is inevitable.
      I'd say that the team behind Saints Row followed their hearts and made the Saints the way they want it to be, something that suits them. Something that can bring joy to them and still, others too.

    • @Jdogg4089
      @Jdogg4089 2 года назад

      @@mxlo1385 Reboot is blue waffles

  • @yncshaud2852
    @yncshaud2852 2 года назад +227

    I always said they should’ve made it seem like 3 and 4 was a dream to the character and get back to how 1 and 2 was 💯

    • @mrhyperarmor287
      @mrhyperarmor287 2 года назад +34

      that wouldve been CRAZY. wake up out of a coma again

    • @yncshaud2852
      @yncshaud2852 2 года назад +17

      @@mrhyperarmor287 god prolly on bro side if that would’ve happened 😂

    • @Flayeshy
      @Flayeshy 2 года назад +3

      I lowkey been saying this for a min 😂

    • @LowLowTalk
      @LowLowTalk 2 года назад +4

      Bro I literally just said this ! Bring back 2 🫱🏾‍🫲🏽😭

    • @jamestoneyjr
      @jamestoneyjr 2 года назад +8

      I’ve never played the first one but I loved SR2. I didn’t care for SR3 and 4. Making it seem like a dream is a good ass idea though.

  • @robinhalljr.3690
    @robinhalljr.3690 2 года назад +18

    The voice actors they had on SR2 were crazy!! Keith David, Michael Rapaport, NPH, Jamie Pressly, & Daniel Dae Kim. Hella talent.

  • @yourfavoritecousing8096
    @yourfavoritecousing8096 2 года назад +67

    Rease knows the truth💯💯💯
    It got way too goofy at 3. 1&2 were so damn fun and a legit GTA alternative. Especially with the masterpiece GTA4 being hella serious and dark. The first two saints rows were serious but the art style, customization, and parts in the story definitely added necessary comic relief

  • @StatiCRjm
    @StatiCRjm 2 года назад +40

    Saints Row was gentrified, don't even ask me how

    • @jaydeegreat88
      @jaydeegreat88 2 года назад +5

      Ayoooo😂😂fr

    • @evollody9910
      @evollody9910 2 года назад +3

      Its crazy realizing they sucked the life out of the franchise

    • @domovoi2861
      @domovoi2861 2 года назад +3

      I'd say neutered
      castrated even

  • @IAmSeanPain
    @IAmSeanPain 2 года назад +6

    1 and 2 was the best ones, I don’t think the original company owns it anymore. The original saints rows were based on Chicago

    • @officialwill6918
      @officialwill6918 2 года назад

      Yeah and all the old devs at volition who worked on the first 2 games most of them have left now

  • @samuelclark1677
    @samuelclark1677 2 года назад +39

    It's still RIP to my nigga Johnny Gat

    • @33GLOCK
      @33GLOCK 2 года назад +7

      Johnny Gat Pack rolled up 😹😹😹😹

    • @RonRyder
      @RonRyder 2 года назад +4

      @@33GLOCK Nah you wrong. Johnny Gat a OG

    • @iLAMAR-_-
      @iLAMAR-_- 2 года назад +6

      I miss Johnny Gat, he’ll always be a great character to me.😫 R.I.P Saints Row

    • @samuelclark1677
      @samuelclark1677 2 года назад +6

      @@iLAMAR-_- yeah Gat was triple OG

  • @L33C333
    @L33C333 2 года назад +46

    i forgot Keith David played Captain Anderson from Mass Effect in addition to Julius, that man is the GOAT

    • @PAntS-23
      @PAntS-23 2 года назад

      Spawn as well

  • @taer7097
    @taer7097 2 года назад +11

    “Let’s take a walk down memory lane” you know these kids started playing at 3 😂😂😂

  • @iamfamos6471
    @iamfamos6471 2 года назад +4

    Brah...till this day i dont understand why they went away from the gta style game to marvel comics. The first Saints Row was competing with GTA

  • @domp9310
    @domp9310 2 года назад +45

    Saints Row 4 is not a bad game if it was called something other than Saints Row. If it was a super hero game with a GTA twist than it would be one of the greatest superhero games out there. Take Saints Row out of the equation and tell me you still can't have fun with this game.

    • @HOFFBog
      @HOFFBog 2 года назад +2

      Touché 🤔

    • @domp9310
      @domp9310 2 года назад +4

      @@HOFFBog Yeah I just look at it as a Matrix parody. Kinda like how Vice City pulled Scarface and Miami Vice out there ass. I was hoping this new one would've been a fast and furious parody which could've been way better than this shit .

    • @someoneyoudontknow6083
      @someoneyoudontknow6083 2 года назад +2

      That seems to be the case for a lot of games I see. The "if it was called something other than x" it would be a good game. Happened with Halo 5, DMC: Devil May Cry, and like you said SR4.

    • @domp9310
      @domp9310 2 года назад +3

      @@someoneyoudontknow6083 I'm not a Xbox guy so I know nothing about Halo, but Devil May Cry I felt the same way about that game. It's like it felt like DMC but not really, like some twilight zone shit. With that said I understand way people feel weird about SR4 , because I sometimes be roaming around doing Matrix, Marvel, and DC shit and stop like Ice Cube on that song Today Was A Good Day. "Wait whoa stop this shit (SR4) Pooh!" What the fuck I'm talking about?" Like I said if it was a adult superhero games it would've branched off of GTA's nuts and had it's own lane. Yeah but Volition played it safe and bent the knee, so let's hope Rockstar still has their ball's intact and not pussy out.

    • @3ddythagoat3ddythagoat47
      @3ddythagoat3ddythagoat47 2 года назад

      Saints is dead now

  • @N2itionMusic
    @N2itionMusic 2 года назад +19

    They turned the game into some kiddie shit 🤣🤣 they literally could've competed with GTA with the saints row 3 but they took a complete different turn ... Saints row 3 was kinda fun to play but the fact they changed so much and made it more unrealistic totally knocked it from competing with GTA ...

    • @theuchihakidd
      @theuchihakidd 2 года назад +3

      GTA is its own game and saints row is its own game you can't compare the two

    • @f1ightju313
      @f1ightju313 2 года назад +5

      @@theuchihakidd says who ? That's how you feel but in reality you can compare anything you want too esp seeing GTA and saints row was so close in genre saints row 1 and GTA San Andreas was practically the same with different story lines maps and characters & that's the nature of the business franchises compete all the time on sales and find ways too better there game whether it works or not is on them. GTA bettered there game via online play and kept the essence of GTA and saints row didn't and went to aliens and superpowers.If sales mean anything GTA made the right moves and saints row didn't.

    • @N2itionMusic
      @N2itionMusic 2 года назад

      @@f1ightju313 thank you for that 🤣🤣 I did not feel like explaining myself. If you know then you know 💪🏾

    • @LostInTransition7
      @LostInTransition7 2 года назад

      Saints row 3 was boring

    • @PMKru
      @PMKru 2 года назад +1

      @@LostInTransition7 HELLA BORING! ASS!

  • @michaelloaded2447
    @michaelloaded2447 2 года назад +20

    Saints Row 1 was straight 🔥🔥🔥

  • @JetBlack2024
    @JetBlack2024 2 года назад +17

    When you see a gang you want to feel like “damn they cool” or “I shouldn’t hang around here to long” you know. When you see the saints row reboot gang you just want to go get shots or go to a rave or something with them. Gangs are supposed to be intimidating so people know they not to be messed with not some frat kids that love to have fun.

    • @tribalbey1378
      @tribalbey1378 2 года назад

      I get what you mean and gangs can be whatever they want they like to party too (I don’t dance I boogie) but the saints is just goofy and too much

    • @13thNobodyprod.
      @13thNobodyprod. 2 года назад

      @@tribalbey1378 you already said it all.
      This is just how the Saints are now.
      They changed but you don't have to change with them. No matter what, Saints Row is gonna find that crowd that enjoys what they have become, no matter how big or small.

    • @htavonn24
      @htavonn24 2 года назад +2

      You right, if you made a hard dope character he or she doesn't even look right in the game standing next to your nerdy looking gang...🤣😂 I gave my copy to my lil nephew

  • @forrandomsites3336
    @forrandomsites3336 2 года назад +3

    Fun fact, saints row 4 was originally going to be dlc, or should I say expansion pack, for saints row 3 called 'Dominatrix' before THQ became bankrupt. It's why sr4 is overly over the top and very different from sr3 but share nearly identical gameplay loops. They claimed that there was too much "effort" put into the dlc that it felt like a different game entirely, and voila, it turned into saints row 4.

  • @ryanlambert1265
    @ryanlambert1265 2 года назад +8

    Protect The Pimp was so much fun! Can't believe they never brought that back!

    • @PMKru
      @PMKru 2 года назад

      Bruh I Made So Many Friends Playing That Online.

  • @91lenox91
    @91lenox91 2 года назад +17

    They did the series dirty. This ones trash

  • @rejavenated
    @rejavenated 2 года назад +5

    From what I hear, they started going off the rails around SR3 because at the prime of the franchise, people kept comparing it to Grand Theft Auto, more so, GTA San Andreas. Even if that was the case, there’s something they could have done better to keep the feel that the first two titles had. They are struggling to find an identity.

  • @chrisxwavy
    @chrisxwavy 2 года назад +20

    People think people are shitting on this game just because of their ties to the original 2, but really it’s just not good

    • @33GLOCK
      @33GLOCK 2 года назад +2

      Exactly

    • @Unstoppablex156
      @Unstoppablex156 2 года назад +2

      No cap the game low key decent and fun y’all just expected to be some it’s not if you haven’t played it really not much you can say about it now it’s not good and on saints row two level but the game is actually decent and fun

    • @Unstoppablex156
      @Unstoppablex156 2 года назад +2

      It’s buggy to tho that’s the main problem besides all that it’s decent

    • @ogdash9500
      @ogdash9500 2 года назад +6

      @@Unstoppablex156 I think you missed the original comments point bruh

    • @33GLOCK
      @33GLOCK 2 года назад +3

      @@Unstoppablex156 i got a refund 😁😁😁 u just saying anything

  • @brentphillip192
    @brentphillip192 2 года назад +3

    I love this feedback as I am currently working own my own video game so this helps me a lot on what to do/ not to do😭

  • @vision4393
    @vision4393 2 года назад +6

    The opening scene of sr1 was bad ass

  • @RalphyPluto
    @RalphyPluto 2 года назад +30

    Bein Fr SR3 was the last tolerable Saints row it was lowkey fun

    • @jaydeegreat88
      @jaydeegreat88 2 года назад

      4 was 🔥 tho I think it was better than 3 tbh

    • @jaba6192
      @jaba6192 2 года назад

      @@jaydeegreat88 3 & 4 are garbage

    • @jaydeegreat88
      @jaydeegreat88 2 года назад

      @@jaba6192 mcht u buggin

    • @bankbill9670
      @bankbill9670 2 года назад

      @@jaba6192 nigga how is an open world game with superpowers trash? If you’re just an old head say that

  • @coreywesterlund5259
    @coreywesterlund5259 2 года назад +1

    the voice acting alone deserve an award

  • @coreywesterlund5259
    @coreywesterlund5259 2 года назад +1

    the one positive of the reboot is it made more people buy the originals again and play them. the originals are becoming way more popular. i bet this year they made more money on saints row 1 and 2 than the reboot. who wants to make that bet

  • @evollody9910
    @evollody9910 2 года назад +1

    SR went the same direction music labels have their rappers go 💀

  • @marsupialstacey
    @marsupialstacey 2 года назад +22

    New SAINTS row trash glad i didn’t waste my money on that game 😭😭😭🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @Amb252
      @Amb252 2 года назад

      Shit is ass saints row 2 is the best saint's row ever

    • @theuchihakidd
      @theuchihakidd 2 года назад +1

      It ain't trash y'all just haters like volition said

    • @marsupialstacey
      @marsupialstacey 2 года назад +12

      @@theuchihakidd it is trash lol stop acting like it’s not 😭😭

    • @papimoe4046
      @papimoe4046 2 года назад +4

      @@theuchihakidd 3, 4 and the reboot are trash lololol

    • @someoneyoudontknow6083
      @someoneyoudontknow6083 2 года назад +5

      @@theuchihakidd If the studio has to resort to calling it's fans haters then they're in the wrong. You can't try to sell a product and when people say "no, this isn't what we want," resort to name calling your audience. Imagine trying to tell people to shut up and buy this thing you don't want. Especially since the fanbase was already split between the games 1/2 and 3/4. This is like the sequel Star Wars movies making everyone go, "you know what, maybe I treated you too harshly."

  • @blinkachu5275
    @blinkachu5275 2 года назад +2

    Lmao dude in the chat really went "Saints Row in general is ass"
    Clearly hasn't played Saints Row 2's story. Saints Row 2's story rivals the best of GTA. The serious moments such as what happens with Carlos or your rivalry with Maero and how that escalates, or how what happens between Johnny Gat and Akuji (all these left ambiguous for spoiler reasons), literally are peak writing.

  • @Batz130
    @Batz130 2 года назад +1

    @10:10 Reese so disgusted he said who is even Amid . It's A.M.D the processor company 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @oBiShinoBea
    @oBiShinoBea 2 года назад +5

    Swear they should've left it IN THE STREETS!! 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @MySplatterhouse
    @MySplatterhouse 2 года назад +4

    I think all the assets from this game should've been used on a SR remake rather than this "reboot" , all the customization would've been a BIG selling point ON TOP of the fact that fans would get the 1st game with better controls etc as well!!! Unfortunately I think Volition maybe done after this, ill be surprised if they make another game frfr.

  • @KeyySterr
    @KeyySterr 2 года назад +1

    Dude at 2:18 with the stick is definitely Jimmy Hopkins from bully grown up

  • @keonharris1934
    @keonharris1934 2 года назад +3

    I understood why they went on the path of SRT3 it was because people kept comparing it to GTA. So that was the change granted the 4th game went too far. The last one, I don't mind it but it definitely could had been way better. Especially the story line, they don't have no gangster side characters either.

  • @ethandlamini2489
    @ethandlamini2489 2 года назад +3

    U cant lie tho Johnny was a badass

  • @PMKru
    @PMKru 2 года назад +9

    Part 3 Is When I Checked Out That Was Not SR

    • @Amb252
      @Amb252 2 года назад

      Exactly

  • @Datguykmg
    @Datguykmg 2 года назад +2

    Lmao who in chat said Sam Jackson? Hell no. That’s the one legged dude from Dead Presidents

  • @psvchx
    @psvchx 2 года назад

    You just got a new subscriber 😭😂 , The intro for me crying 😂🤣🤣🤣 0:01 3:56

  • @mattlee5934
    @mattlee5934 2 года назад +4

    Somebody finally kept it a buck

  • @THE_REAL_EXECUTIONER
    @THE_REAL_EXECUTIONER 2 года назад +1

    It's a damn shame. I actually wanted it to succeed. I bought it and got my refund the next day. I'm done with them.

  • @_NBGDT
    @_NBGDT 2 года назад +5

    i actually like the new saints row cause after they bury u it takes u back all the way to wen u working and tryna build yo crew up

  • @jalen3590
    @jalen3590 2 года назад +2

    The series peaked at 2

  • @coreywesterlund5259
    @coreywesterlund5259 2 года назад

    the reboot should have ended with your character getting buried alive

  • @riskisoulo
    @riskisoulo 2 года назад +14

    I’m Sorry Brother....you were right saints was better back then...the new game is...yeah!!!! 😂😷

  • @evollody9910
    @evollody9910 2 года назад +1

    Now its a gang of nerds 🤣🤣

  • @coreythemaan
    @coreythemaan 2 года назад

    I just played saints row 2 but I accidentally deleted my save

  • @not_tees
    @not_tees 2 года назад +12

    Saint's row three wasn't even that bad tbh

    • @fr33z3y06
      @fr33z3y06 2 года назад

      Neither is the new one

    • @not_tees
      @not_tees 2 года назад +10

      @@fr33z3y06 new one is just garbage ngl

    • @fr33z3y06
      @fr33z3y06 2 года назад

      @@not_tees What's wrong with it why is it garbage

    • @NACentDSTM
      @NACentDSTM 2 года назад +6

      Yeh 3 is cool didn’t have the superpowers yet all it was is that the saints became icons and was more commercial and it was slightly more futuristic 4 is where it went crazy doesn’t mean it wasn’t fun to play though

    • @fr33z3y06
      @fr33z3y06 2 года назад

      @@NACentDSTM I agree it was off the wall but it was fun lol

  • @JohnSmith-nb1mi
    @JohnSmith-nb1mi 2 года назад +20

    Your absolutely correct 100 percent saints row 1 and 2 were masterful 3 was just ok after that even to this new reboot completely dizaster complete dizaster

  • @007CRUSHINDO
    @007CRUSHINDO 2 года назад +1

    Me too... The only ones I will buy is the first one and second one. I wont ever buy the third or above every again.

  • @freckhefner4019
    @freckhefner4019 2 года назад

    To be honest with you I think people playing Grandtheft auto for so long expecting this to be something that was compared to grandfather and it’s not it never was

  • @balloutjay-_-6827
    @balloutjay-_-6827 2 года назад +2

    saint row 3 and 4 was weird but still good games

  • @JudahMarleyTwin1
    @JudahMarleyTwin1 2 года назад

    Damn the first two why did they jump out the window

  • @coreythemaan
    @coreythemaan 2 года назад

    Is that the guy from barbershop

  • @4Lord_Jesus
    @4Lord_Jesus 2 года назад +3

    Saints Row the third is when it got kinda bad

  • @racceflippa6723
    @racceflippa6723 2 года назад

    That's exactly how my character looked

  • @RanJoTheCreator
    @RanJoTheCreator 2 года назад +5

    Play saints row 1 bro ts would be fire

  • @zonniefreefall
    @zonniefreefall 2 года назад

    Dude your absolutely right after the second it just becomes cringeworthy not even gonna lie

  • @onichan924
    @onichan924 2 года назад +7

    Rease was speaking fax fr.

  • @Slimelord202
    @Slimelord202 2 года назад +1

    1 and 2 was the best

  • @racceflippa6723
    @racceflippa6723 2 года назад

    I have this game in my dresser drawer but can't play it on my ps5

  • @naajeemanney8794
    @naajeemanney8794 2 года назад +1

    How they fucked up is they listened to Critics who said dumb shit like "your a gta knock off" when in reality the first 2 saints rows was BETTER THAN THE GTAs OF THAT TIME between THQ folding and trying to fight the critics they lost themselves in that third 3rd one

  • @GoldenQ9
    @GoldenQ9 2 года назад +2

    They need to just go back to street gang take over story and remake the first one with extra features more clothes and customizations and graphics. Saints row 3 wasnt as bad tho as the others

  • @100bwomp
    @100bwomp 2 года назад

    the church in the new game is kinda fire tho

  • @Dcotte-1
    @Dcotte-1 2 года назад

    I swear if they would’ve at least kept pierce Shaundi gat and Troy I think the game would be a lil better 😂

  • @23redcomet
    @23redcomet 2 года назад +4

    After saints row 2 the series became ass

  • @dominiquegreen4553
    @dominiquegreen4553 2 года назад

    16:19 spectacular cawk just subscribed

  • @Darkestworm
    @Darkestworm 2 года назад

    It's a reboot because the fucking earth is destroyed in the series, so they made a new one game

  • @jeremyokay2807
    @jeremyokay2807 2 года назад

    The mutiple player used to be the epic. Bad so much love this game

  • @crashfilms6484
    @crashfilms6484 2 года назад

    You funny asl BRUH 😂😂😂😂

  • @donnellhopkins8879
    @donnellhopkins8879 2 года назад +6

    Game became straight trash

  • @kxllrxncx783
    @kxllrxncx783 2 года назад

    Nah this man was jus hating on 3 for fun 💀💀

  • @ohunna239
    @ohunna239 2 года назад

    Bruh we gotta come together and MAKE THEM GIVE US THESE game back

  • @SpaceKiid
    @SpaceKiid 2 года назад +1

    1 n 2 was best one

  • @TremelJackson
    @TremelJackson 2 года назад

    I had to tapout after SR3 that was all I could take

  • @KevSoToxic
    @KevSoToxic 2 года назад

    14:30 Rease hating on all the games he ain’t play that first intro was longer than all the other ones we just seen because it brung him memories

  • @Vegaplayurr
    @Vegaplayurr 2 года назад

    Was that Keith David?

  • @dolo_ant4178
    @dolo_ant4178 2 года назад

    Like y tf they still ain’t make the shooting realistic

  • @levijackson767
    @levijackson767 2 года назад

    he don't miss.

  • @Lucky4Clips
    @Lucky4Clips 2 года назад +1

    Ain’t gonna lie hatin on sr3 fr even tho 2 was peak it only fell off its story etc lbecause of sr4

  • @cebraulkenne8571
    @cebraulkenne8571 2 года назад

    This is the same kind of bullshit they doin in Far cry now.

  • @Dixon_Cider407
    @Dixon_Cider407 2 года назад +8

    Ruined AF

  • @lilspeakersbeats3741
    @lilspeakersbeats3741 2 года назад

    How was the first one better and your player didn’t even talk

  • @pxppy150
    @pxppy150 2 года назад

    Rease gotta play the old saints row 😂😂

  • @ruffinboijrp
    @ruffinboijrp 2 года назад +1

    Saints Row 1 $ 2 The GOATS

  • @fitzgerald434
    @fitzgerald434 2 года назад

    I hate how over the top they went, dont get me wrong saints row 3 was cool but everything after was like WTF happened

  • @desmondkajim847
    @desmondkajim847 2 года назад

    Can you do undisputed with skip and Shannon

  • @XIII76448
    @XIII76448 2 года назад +2

    I’ll miss SR 1-3. 2 being the best but 3 being the last one I enjoyed. After that it was too crazy for me. And the reboot has buried the IP for a long time if not permanently now. It sucks. Volition became a bunch of hipsters focused on “gentrification and modernism” too hard and it was so cringe they was WARNED by fans not to do it. Did they listen? No

  • @P12ooF
    @P12ooF 2 года назад +4

    Ah David Keith's beautiful chocolate voice...

  • @AhzekAhrimanOne
    @AhzekAhrimanOne 2 года назад

    Went from hard times creates strong men, to weak men creating hard times.

  • @dre691
    @dre691 2 года назад +1

    Why couldn’t they just make the story like 2??? Like for the love of god they have updated graphics with a flushed out story like 2 but they couldn’t be bothered to take it somewhat seriously?

  • @ant7257
    @ant7257 2 года назад

    Brooo not “who is even amid”

  • @Jayballinallday
    @Jayballinallday 2 года назад

    Its a ReBoot People.

  • @har7em
    @har7em 2 года назад +1

    Reese I understand

  • @plAYBOY5042256
    @plAYBOY5042256 2 года назад

    I hate when ppl try to make excuses and say ... Don't listen to reviews ... The game is fun ... Well Mario is fun ... But that's not why the fuck I bought a game like saints row to have a Mario experience ‼️

  • @100bwomp
    @100bwomp 2 года назад

    see tho i loved the wacky wildness of the games as they went on. ifk i think they are all great lol

  • @Hulkitout
    @Hulkitout 2 года назад +5

    saints 1-4 was good to me. everything after not so much. saints 2022 decent enough though just needs more content in the world

  • @dMiraculousDevin
    @dMiraculousDevin 2 года назад

    Bruh I was saying the same thing when they introduced the Remake they pretty much white washed it smh

  • @Ohh.ThatsAve
    @Ohh.ThatsAve 2 года назад +4

    They went from gangstas to political mafia type they evolving

  • @SimiDaGoat
    @SimiDaGoat 2 года назад +1

    Yea the game is too goofy.

  • @33GLOCK
    @33GLOCK 2 года назад

    11:10 😹😹😹😹😹17:39 😭😭😭😭

  • @GG_Canti
    @GG_Canti 2 года назад

    chat dumb as hell saying sma jackson for Julius voice. it’s the one and only keith david. master voice actor.

  • @mikeschmidt9288
    @mikeschmidt9288 2 года назад +1

    Saints row 1,2,and 3 was good saints row 4 was the one that ruined the series