I have seen this as a radar tech before and my friend told me I was crazy and that nobody can see that much detail. But I swear you sometimes can see these small eddy currents and when they collide with the gust front at the wrong angle they get snuffed out but there's a certain angle that I can tell the collision is going to kick off a tornado! Vindication!
If they dropped a chaff like material into a storm would it maybe help track a storms winds more accurately on a few mobile radars vs just the precipitation, or would that just screw up everyone’s radar for days and not really help lol?
@@alexburke1899would be impossible to get the right placement and the amount of chaff would be mind-blowing. Your idea has been done only it was not physically done, but rather in a supercomputer. You can find it in Pecos Hanks video library. They add streamers instead of chaff. Great idea though. I like the way you think
Absolutely great talk! I have a few questions and things I noticed in the simulations. 1. Depends the lack of horizontal vorticity on the cool side of the gustfront in the STORM9 simulation only on the slower ground relative wind? I would assume the warmer coldpool should lower the amount of baroclinicly generated vorticity as well, which would also result in less horizontal vorticity. 2. It's a bit hard to tell but to me it seems like the TLV from STORM9 is very close to the edge of the gustfront, while in C20 the TLV seems to be a bit deeper in the cold air. Also the RFD seems to have more turbulence and surges in C20 and reaches further east than in STORM9. Does this also appear in the other simulations with strong TLVs? If so, it may be something to look for in real storms to distinguish between the classic and the boundary layer turbulence tornado formation, if both occur in reality.
Sorry for my ignorance or if this is a stupid question just trying to understand better. Is there anything going on above the storm powering it or creating energy or is it all from below?
The jet stream is almost always raging very powerfully at the tops of these supercells that produce the worst tornadoes, and this powerful jet stream is one of the key ingredients to help give these storms such unusually strong updrafts. But the jet stream can't make a tornado by itself; there must also be enough warm moist air present near the surface in order to be able to create a decent thunderstorm. Then if that thunderstorm can get well established and start tapping into all that jet stream energy higher up, then it can become a supercell- a rotating thunderstorm. And then, if the powerful updraft of the thunderstorm can grab one of these smaller vortices that are close to the ground as shown in this video, the vortex that becomes dominant can become vertical, get stretched out and amplified, and then be turned into a bonified tornado.
What do you mean with "above or below the storm?" Or what do you call "the storm"? Below the tornado is only geology, so that question doesn't make sense. The supercell reaches into the stratosphere, which has only some minor effects. Everything that makes tornadoes happens in the troposphere, including the jetstream. Maybe more interesting would be talking about the mesocyclone, the rotating column of air that might spawn one or more tornados (but most of the time produce none). This one spans only about 3 km in altitude, is 2 - 6 km wide and yes, it gets its power from all sides, it has a inner rotating part and an outer part that blends the rotating winds into the environment around it. Mesocyclones form by wind shear, the difference between the low-level and up-level winds, which gets bend upwards by updraft. Think about it maybe as a natural steam engine, because the physical phenomena acting there are the same: The usable power comes from the differences between hot and cold, low and high-pressure, condensed water (clouds, rain, hail) or steam (moisture). But there are no solid walls/cylinders that constrain it, only air. Hot moist air goes in, cold air filled with condensed water come out, and all that power that is generated is turned into work to make air move faster.
@@HeyChickens HC: The jet stream is almost always raging very powerfully at the tops of these supercells that produce the worst tornadoes, and this powerful jet stream is one of the key ingredients to help give these storms such unusually strong updrafts. ST: Right. The source of the energy of all storms is jet stream. HC: But the jet stream can't make a tornado by itself; there must also be enough warm moist air present near the surface in order to be able to create a decent thunderstorm. ST: Vortices are necessary to deliver the energy that causes the supercell. All storms are caused by vortices. Sometimes the vortices grow all the way to the ground to cause a tornado. Their hands are tied because they don't have a comprehensive understanding of water. Unfortunately this talk is a waste of time and resources. James McGinn / Number one expert in the world on tornadogenesis
Orf is wasting resources with his computer model. Their assumptions are wrong. The whole paradigm is worthless. Orfs models clearly indicate structural capabilities in the vortices. Water is the key. These guys are just confused.
Anything that can BE affected by a magnetic field will also affect a magnetic field. So if a tornado were affected by a magnetic field, then it must also change the magnetic fields around it. Which would mean that we could easily detect tornadoes from very far away with great certainty using a large network of very sensitive gauss meters, so that we wouldn't have to depend on a beam of radar being reflected back by raindrops. This is certainly not the case at all. Trying to manipulate a tornado with a magnetic field would not be any more successful than trying to manipulate a paper cup with a magnet. The paper cup does not interact in any meaningful way with the magnetic field, hence it cannot be manipulated directly by a magnetic field.
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb... Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective. DON'T LOOK UP ) OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene Cortex Videos 15:44 the finger of satan... When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level))) Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly) The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance... Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour. The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient. Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format. Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
You need crazy powerful supercomputers to run these simulations with full turbulence. The kind that are only owned by universities and have a lot of people competing for processing time.
Regarding the frictional component: Is it possible that, where we see the path of an EF2 or EF3 enter into a developed urban enviroment, the rapid intensification into an EF4 or even an EF5 results from the established vortex being intensified by the suddenly increased friction with obsticles (houses, different ground surfaces), etc?
@@hime273 It may be opposite of what you would intuitively expect tp happen - but he did say that a frictional ground component causes an increase in the strength of the vortex. And, I've noted that in many cases these storms seem to greatly intensify at the moment they enter a populated area.
@@hiturbinewhat we often see isn't necessarily an increase in intensity of the actual storm, but rather a huge drop in correlation coefficient due to debris being generated. This makes the storm look more intense, but the reality is it was already intense but now has houses and what not to make debris out of.
Tornadoes don’t suddenly intensify when they enter urban areas. Tornadoes are rated on the damage that they cause. Because there’s a lot more damage that can be caused in urban areas, their ratings increase.
7:58 The moisture or vapor comes most likely from a wet surface cooling tower. That's not natural, I'm not saying that it's intentional, what I am saying is that cooling towers can fuel super cells accidentally, wrong place wrong time, you know
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb... Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective. DON'T LOOK UP ) OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene Cortex Videos 15:44 the finger of satan... When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level))) Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly) The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance... Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour. The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient. Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format. Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb... Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective. DON'T LOOK UP ) OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene Cortex Videos 15:44 the finger of satan... When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level))) Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly) The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance... Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour. The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient. Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format. Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
It's about time someone exposes these tornadoes. They've been getting away with this for too long. I thought the word "expose" was a strange choice in the title.
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb... Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective. DON'T LOOK UP ) OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene Cortex Videos 15:44 the finger of satan... When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level))) Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly) The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance... Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour. The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient. Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format. Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
With varying degrees of geothermal gradient under the earth’s surface our big blue marble is essentially reaching for space. In space we have gravity waves which act like a bellow. Pushing and pulling on our atmosphere . As dynamic as the particulars are in a thunderstorm, a storm complex moving through an environment with these conditions present may be the trigger we’re looking for. The yarn pulling up analogy is essentially the result of rising air trapped in this push / pull cycle that is happening 24/7 even when storms aren’t present.
your reflectivity band chart looks like a black hole eating up a star , you do realise that right ? same winds exist in space basically on a never ending scale but none the less a scale in all directions at the same time like water droping into water and waves upon waves in all directions at the same time , however looks just like a blackhole eating a star
This long explanation sounds like what we'd expect if required to explain a thing without mentioning the thing itself. Meteorologists are ignorant of how severely physics has misunderstood water.
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb... Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective. DON'T LOOK UP ) OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene Cortex Videos 15:44 the finger of satan... When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level))) Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly) The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance... Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour. The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient. Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format. Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
Looks like we have a narcissist and armchair expert whose ideas have amassed... 29 subscribers. I guess nobody recognizes your "genius" eh? lol. Don't worry, I'm sure long after you're gone someone will finally realize you were right and all the actual scientists were wrong all along.
excessive negatiev buoyancy , i was in a goldylocks zone where there were no winds just per say but had been they died off and everything fell to the ground , i had though it tailed out , i had not , all of a sudden everything started floating and then everything went sideways ,
The amount of schizo comments on this video is unexpected considering the topic and depth. 😂 Good talk. I tend to lean towards the idea of multiple triggers for tornadogenisis. That would also explain why different storm modes like QLCS and derecho bow structures can produce tornadoes as well as differing air regimes like cold core lows vs traditional environments in the southern plains.
Yea, it's surprising how many of them come out of the woodwork. I've seen all kinds of conspiracy theories and "alternative science" in other fields, but I guess I didn't know they were out there in meteorology, too. But I agree with you about multiple triggers for tornadogenisis. I can't remember the exact study, but they measured wind speeds to look at whether tornadoes formed from the top down or the bottom up, and it was actually a little of both. That doesn't prove that there are multiple triggers, but it kind of suggests that there could be a number of different combinations of variables that could lead to a tornado. RFD surges, streamwise vorticity currents, low pressure centers/gradiants, etc. etc.
@@ullrich RFD surges, streamwise vorticity currents, low pressure centers/gradiants, etc. etc. SolvingTornadoes These are all observation of effects of storm dynamics. The cause of the storm is the energetic low pressure from a jet stream that is delivered by vortices to the location of the storm. James McGinn / Genius / SolvingTornadoes
The ER DRs testimony did not match his impeccable CV. Medical answers we're wishy washy, many he refused to admit, such as his report didn't report John had a broken leg, yet he refused to admit that was 100% true. He wouldn't even commit that the report he completed was a report. Didn't remember treating Karen asking Defense to define, "what is treating?" It was Sarg Goode that sectioned Karen and the purpose of that would be predominantly to draw blood so they can DUI her, and 2nd reason would be to keep her incarcerated in hospital so 3rd party culprits can get the head start on narrative. When did the 1st media report come out? Lay bets Jen mcCabe called that reporter. Anyways this doctor is as tainted as Karen's blood and how did this testimony come in before the report was voir dire discussed?
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb... Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective. DON'T LOOK UP ) OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene Cortex Videos 15:44 the finger of satan... When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level))) Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly) The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance... Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour. The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient. Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format. Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
Paul is realizing that the pieces of the puzzle of his standard theory are not fitting together very well. I'm way past that. The secret is hidden in the confusion surrounding H2O and its anomalies. Paul is starting to realize that only if some kind of superhero-like structural capability appears on the scene would his own model make sense! And it does. It literally does. In reality. Structural capabilities do emerge at exactly the right locations - along extensive moist/dry wind shear boundaries - in the form of spinning, highly polar, polymers (chains) of H2O molecules. The substance that emerges is a plasma of spinning chains of H2O molecules - a plasma of self-attracted polymers of spinning H2O molecules - which as a substance begins to encircle its flow of drier air and form into a tube. The structural properties are conserved in/with the plasma, maybe especially with respect to the laws of conservation of angular momentum associated with the spinning polymers of H2O molecules which comprise this plasma and which themselves encircle the flow where the wind shear interaction is itself conserved along the inner surface. James McGinn / Genius / Solving Tornadoes
Meteorology is completely confused about tornadogenesis. Paul refers to multiple layers of confusion and turbid thinking: Rare admission: Improvement of microphysical parameterization used in numerical models. Or, at least explore the performance (testing?) of these parameters in simulations in which a large percentage of the turbulence is resolved. Are we validating these schemes with the right simulations? Voice breaks. Rare admission that they are really confused. "I don’t know the answer to that question." They are all confused and don’t really even know if they got all the pieces of the puzzle or if some of the pieces are just wrong. I know for a fact that they don’t have all of the pieces and I know that they are so confused about what they think they know that there is zero chance they are ever going to realize their larger confusion that completely blocks them from ever making progress Words of all is that they seem to be using their confused rhetoric to create obfuscation. The public is just gullible. James McGinn / Genius / President of Solving Tornadoes
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb... Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective. DON'T LOOK UP ) OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene Cortex Videos 15:44 the finger of satan... When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level))) Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly) The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance... Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour. The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient. Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format. Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
This is a confused paradigm. They/you got water wrong. So, this whole talk and the whole paradigm that underlies it is useless. Get water right first. Stop wasting resources with all of this worthless rhetoric. You have the wrong assumptions. Fix this first. James McGinn / Genius / Solving Tornadoes
I am about 200 years ahead of the current paradigm on tornadogenesis. Everything presented here is a waste of time and resources. Only if you have a comprehensive understanding of water do you have any chance of working out what is actually happening in a vortice.
Fascinating. Especially love the visualizations of the pre-storm boundary layer vorticity.
yo it's that cool guy from texas!
I have seen this as a radar tech before and my friend told me I was crazy and that nobody can see that much detail. But I swear you sometimes can see these small eddy currents and when they collide with the gust front at the wrong angle they get snuffed out but there's a certain angle that I can tell the collision is going to kick off a tornado! Vindication!
If they dropped a chaff like material into a storm would it maybe help track a storms winds more accurately on a few mobile radars vs just the precipitation, or would that just screw up everyone’s radar for days and not really help lol?
@@alexburke1899would be impossible to get the right placement and the amount of chaff would be mind-blowing. Your idea has been done only it was not physically done, but rather in a supercomputer. You can find it in Pecos Hanks video library. They add streamers instead of chaff. Great idea though. I like the way you think
Wow this is fascinating! I would love to hear more about what you’ve learned.
Pecos Hank has a video with a professor who did this with a super computer. It was very interesting the data showed. Check it out.
@@Wes4Trump Dr Leigh Orf :)
I dont understand a lot of this, but it is still very interesting to watch.
It's complete nonsense. There is nothing here to be understood.
Absolutely great talk! I have a few questions and things I noticed in the simulations.
1. Depends the lack of horizontal vorticity on the cool side of the gustfront in the STORM9 simulation only on the slower ground relative wind? I would assume the warmer coldpool should lower the amount of baroclinicly generated vorticity as well, which would also result in less horizontal vorticity.
2. It's a bit hard to tell but to me it seems like the TLV from STORM9 is very close to the edge of the gustfront, while in C20 the TLV seems to be a bit deeper in the cold air. Also the RFD seems to have more turbulence and surges in C20 and reaches further east than in STORM9. Does this also appear in the other simulations with strong TLVs?
If so, it may be something to look for in real storms to distinguish between the classic and the boundary layer turbulence tornado formation, if both occur in reality.
Yes.
Very interesting video! Thanks for sharing!
Sorry for my ignorance or if this is a stupid question just trying to understand better. Is there anything going on above the storm powering it or creating energy or is it all from below?
get lost bot.go practice your ai somewhere else.
put simply, yes.
gravity can play a role too
magnetisim and eletrical potential.
for example, is there metals in the air during the storm.
The jet stream is almost always raging very powerfully at the tops of these supercells that produce the worst tornadoes, and this powerful jet stream is one of the key ingredients to help give these storms such unusually strong updrafts. But the jet stream can't make a tornado by itself; there must also be enough warm moist air present near the surface in order to be able to create a decent thunderstorm. Then if that thunderstorm can get well established and start tapping into all that jet stream energy higher up, then it can become a supercell- a rotating thunderstorm. And then, if the powerful updraft of the thunderstorm can grab one of these smaller vortices that are close to the ground as shown in this video, the vortex that becomes dominant can become vertical, get stretched out and amplified, and then be turned into a bonified tornado.
What do you mean with "above or below the storm?" Or what do you call "the storm"? Below the tornado is only geology, so that question doesn't make sense. The supercell reaches into the stratosphere, which has only some minor effects. Everything that makes tornadoes happens in the troposphere, including the jetstream. Maybe more interesting would be talking about the mesocyclone, the rotating column of air that might spawn one or more tornados (but most of the time produce none). This one spans only about 3 km in altitude, is 2 - 6 km wide and yes, it gets its power from all sides, it has a inner rotating part and an outer part that blends the rotating winds into the environment around it. Mesocyclones form by wind shear, the difference between the low-level and up-level winds, which gets bend upwards by updraft. Think about it maybe as a natural steam engine, because the physical phenomena acting there are the same: The usable power comes from the differences between hot and cold, low and high-pressure, condensed water (clouds, rain, hail) or steam (moisture). But there are no solid walls/cylinders that constrain it, only air. Hot moist air goes in, cold air filled with condensed water come out, and all that power that is generated is turned into work to make air move faster.
@@HeyChickens
HC:
The jet stream is almost always raging very powerfully at the tops of these supercells that produce the worst tornadoes, and this powerful jet stream is one of the key ingredients to help give these storms such unusually strong updrafts.
ST:
Right. The source of the energy of all storms is jet stream.
HC:
But the jet stream can't make a tornado by itself; there must also be enough warm moist air present near the surface in order to be able to create a decent thunderstorm.
ST:
Vortices are necessary to deliver the energy that causes the supercell. All storms are caused by vortices. Sometimes the vortices grow all the way to the ground to cause a tornado.
Their hands are tied because they don't have a comprehensive understanding of water.
Unfortunately this talk is a waste of time and resources.
James McGinn / Number one expert in the world on tornadogenesis
I love zeta anamorphics and turbulent coherently structures!
They are cute 😍
This was interesting. I'd like to know how it squares with leigh orfs research.
Orf is wasting resources with his computer model. Their assumptions are wrong. The whole paradigm is worthless. Orfs models clearly indicate structural capabilities in the vortices. Water is the key. These guys are just confused.
Does the correlation of an impact on the trajectories of a magnetic field also have an effectiveness on the subject?
Anything that can BE affected by a magnetic field will also affect a magnetic field. So if a tornado were affected by a magnetic field, then it must also change the magnetic fields around it. Which would mean that we could easily detect tornadoes from very far away with great certainty using a large network of very sensitive gauss meters, so that we wouldn't have to depend on a beam of radar being reflected back by raindrops. This is certainly not the case at all. Trying to manipulate a tornado with a magnetic field would not be any more successful than trying to manipulate a paper cup with a magnet. The paper cup does not interact in any meaningful way with the magnetic field, hence it cannot be manipulated directly by a magnetic field.
@@HeyChickens
How do y'all not realize that the Nexrads are what controls these storms.
Which are literally Electromagnetic Frequency beam emitters.
@@hime273 Because some people understand physics.
@@ullrich How does that disprove what I said?
Did you even read my comment?
what if low level jet transport is disrupted towards ground hitting stout updraft
45:41 I believe I see this all the time when I am out chasing. The tornado seems to form away from the lowering.
O.C. Hilgenberg figured that all out a long time ago. In '30s through the '50s.
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb...
Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective.
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the finger of satan...
When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level)))
Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly)
The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance...
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell"
It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour.
The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient.
Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format.
Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
I'm surprised that anything is ever simulated without turbulence, it makes no sense in my head
You need crazy powerful supercomputers to run these simulations with full turbulence. The kind that are only owned by universities and have a lot of people competing for processing time.
It makes sense to me. Understanding the big picture first and then diving into the small details
9:28 Leigh Orf ?
Ahh yes, I know some of these words.
Regarding the frictional component: Is it possible that, where we see the path of an EF2 or EF3 enter into a developed urban enviroment, the rapid intensification into an EF4 or even an EF5 results from the established vortex being intensified by the suddenly increased friction with obsticles (houses, different ground surfaces), etc?
That's the opposite of what should happen with friction
@@hime273 It may be opposite of what you would intuitively expect tp happen - but he did say that a frictional ground component causes an increase in the strength of the vortex. And, I've noted that in many cases these storms seem to greatly intensify at the moment they enter a populated area.
@@hiturbinewhat we often see isn't necessarily an increase in intensity of the actual storm, but rather a huge drop in correlation coefficient due to debris being generated. This makes the storm look more intense, but the reality is it was already intense but now has houses and what not to make debris out of.
@@AntavasSpeaks Yes, but often we also see that an EF3 entering a populated area evolves into producing the damage of an EF4 or EF5 ?
Tornadoes don’t suddenly intensify when they enter urban areas. Tornadoes are rated on the damage that they cause. Because there’s a lot more damage that can be caused in urban areas, their ratings increase.
7:58 The moisture or vapor comes most likely from a wet surface cooling tower. That's not natural, I'm not saying that it's intentional, what I am saying is that cooling towers can fuel super cells accidentally, wrong place wrong time, you know
Where would directed energy have to be directed to guarantee a tornado?
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb...
Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective.
DON'T LOOK UP )
OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene
Cortex Videos
15:44
the finger of satan...
When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level)))
Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly)
The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance...
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell"
It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour.
The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient.
Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format.
Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
Perhaps there's a new understanding of how tornadoes develop, but there's not a new 'pathway'.
He just keeps referring to vorticity as if it is a principle. He is spouting nonsense. All meteorologists are confused nitwits.
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb...
Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective.
DON'T LOOK UP )
OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene
Cortex Videos
15:44
the finger of satan...
When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level)))
Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly)
The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance...
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell"
It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour.
The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient.
Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format.
Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
It's about time someone exposes these tornadoes. They've been getting away with this for too long. I thought the word "expose" was a strange choice in the title.
Thank you
He is exposing how completely confused is meteorology on tornadogenesis.
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb...
Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective.
DON'T LOOK UP )
OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene
Cortex Videos
15:44
the finger of satan...
When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level)))
Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly)
The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance...
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell"
It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour.
The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient.
Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format.
Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
With varying degrees of geothermal gradient under the earth’s surface our big blue marble is essentially reaching for space. In space we have gravity waves which act like a bellow. Pushing and pulling on our atmosphere .
As dynamic as the particulars are in a thunderstorm, a storm complex moving through an environment with these conditions present may be the trigger we’re looking for. The yarn pulling up analogy is essentially the result of rising air trapped in this push / pull cycle that is happening 24/7 even when storms aren’t present.
your reflectivity band chart looks like a black hole eating up a star , you do realise that right ? same winds exist in space basically on a never ending scale but none the less a scale in all directions at the same time like water droping into water and waves upon waves in all directions at the same time , however looks just like a blackhole eating a star
This long explanation sounds like what we'd expect if required to explain a thing without mentioning the thing itself. Meteorologists are ignorant of how severely physics has misunderstood water.
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb...
Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective.
DON'T LOOK UP )
OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene
Cortex Videos
15:44
the finger of satan...
When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level)))
Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly)
The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance...
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell"
It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour.
The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient.
Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format.
Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
Looks like we have a narcissist and armchair expert whose ideas have amassed... 29 subscribers. I guess nobody recognizes your "genius" eh? lol. Don't worry, I'm sure long after you're gone someone will finally realize you were right and all the actual scientists were wrong all along.
excessive negatiev buoyancy , i was in a goldylocks zone where there were no winds just per say but had been they died off and everything fell to the ground , i had though it tailed out , i had not , all of a sudden everything started floating and then everything went sideways ,
The amount of schizo comments on this video is unexpected considering the topic and depth. 😂
Good talk. I tend to lean towards the idea of multiple triggers for tornadogenisis. That would also explain why different storm modes like QLCS and derecho bow structures can produce tornadoes as well as differing air regimes like cold core lows vs traditional environments in the southern plains.
Vague.
@@SolvingTornadoes You are one of the people he's talking about. Specific.
Yea, it's surprising how many of them come out of the woodwork. I've seen all kinds of conspiracy theories and "alternative science" in other fields, but I guess I didn't know they were out there in meteorology, too.
But I agree with you about multiple triggers for tornadogenisis. I can't remember the exact study, but they measured wind speeds to look at whether tornadoes formed from the top down or the bottom up, and it was actually a little of both. That doesn't prove that there are multiple triggers, but it kind of suggests that there could be a number of different combinations of variables that could lead to a tornado. RFD surges, streamwise vorticity currents, low pressure centers/gradiants, etc. etc.
@@ullrich "Multiple triggers"? This is your theory?
Really?
James McGinn / Genius / SolvingTornadoes
@@ullrich
RFD surges, streamwise vorticity currents, low pressure centers/gradiants, etc. etc.
SolvingTornadoes
These are all observation of effects of storm dynamics. The cause of the storm is the energetic low pressure from a jet stream that is delivered by vortices to the location of the storm.
James McGinn / Genius / SolvingTornadoes
The ER DRs testimony did not match his impeccable CV. Medical answers we're wishy washy, many he refused to admit, such as his report didn't report John had a broken leg, yet he refused to admit that was 100% true. He wouldn't even commit that the report he completed was a report. Didn't remember treating Karen asking Defense to define, "what is treating?" It was Sarg Goode that sectioned Karen and the purpose of that would be predominantly to draw blood so they can DUI her, and 2nd reason would be to keep her incarcerated in hospital so 3rd party culprits can get the head start on narrative. When did the 1st media report come out? Lay bets Jen mcCabe called that reporter. Anyways this doctor is as tainted as Karen's blood and how did this testimony come in before the report was voir dire discussed?
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb...
Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective.
DON'T LOOK UP )
OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene
Cortex Videos
15:44
the finger of satan...
When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level)))
Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly)
The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance...
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell"
It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour.
The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient.
Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format.
Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
Paul is realizing that the pieces of the puzzle of his standard theory are not fitting together very well. I'm way past that. The secret is hidden in the confusion surrounding H2O and its anomalies. Paul is starting to realize that only if some kind of superhero-like structural capability appears on the scene would his own model make sense! And it does. It literally does. In reality. Structural capabilities do emerge at exactly the right locations - along extensive moist/dry wind shear boundaries - in the form of spinning, highly polar, polymers (chains) of H2O molecules. The substance that emerges is a plasma of spinning chains of H2O molecules - a plasma of self-attracted polymers of spinning H2O molecules - which as a substance begins to encircle its flow of drier air and form into a tube. The structural properties are conserved in/with the plasma, maybe especially with respect to the laws of conservation of angular momentum associated with the spinning polymers of H2O molecules which comprise this plasma and which themselves encircle the flow where the wind shear interaction is itself conserved along the inner surface.
James McGinn / Genius / Solving Tornadoes
"I'm way past that"... the narcissism continues.
@@AlaskaB83
You got nothing!!!
@@SolvingTornadoes Neither do you, wacko
Meteorology is completely confused about tornadogenesis. Paul refers to multiple layers of confusion and turbid thinking:
Rare admission:
Improvement of microphysical parameterization used in numerical models.
Or, at least explore the performance (testing?) of these parameters in simulations in which a large percentage of the turbulence is resolved.
Are we validating these schemes with the right simulations?
Voice breaks. Rare admission that they are really confused.
"I don’t know the answer to that question."
They are all confused and don’t really even know if they got all the pieces of the puzzle or if some of the pieces are just wrong.
I know for a fact that they don’t have all of the pieces and I know that they are so confused about what they think they know that there is zero chance they are ever going to realize their larger confusion that completely blocks them from ever making progress
Words of all is that they seem to be using their confused rhetoric to create obfuscation.
The public is just gullible.
James McGinn / Genius / President of Solving Tornadoes
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb...
Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective.
DON'T LOOK UP )
OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene
Cortex Videos
15:44
the finger of satan...
When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level)))
Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly)
The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance...
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell"
It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour.
The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient.
Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format.
Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
This is a confused paradigm. They/you got water wrong. So, this whole talk and the whole paradigm that underlies it is useless. Get water right first. Stop wasting resources with all of this worthless rhetoric. You have the wrong assumptions. Fix this first.
James McGinn / Genius / Solving Tornadoes
I am about 200 years ahead of the current paradigm on tornadogenesis. Everything presented here is a waste of time and resources. Only if you have a comprehensive understanding of water do you have any chance of working out what is actually happening in a vortice.
Ok genius, present us with some evidence
@@lushy13 I present this video.
R U interested in a genuine debate?
Well aren't you super-duper special. When I see your short yellow bus out chasing storms, I'll give a wave!
@@KSparks80 You got nothing!!!