Mrs. Torkelson-Weber is what a historian SHOULD BE she is after facts, supported facts not a biased angle...which almost every Beatle historian, except maybe Lewishn seems to have. She is marvelous.
Brilliant discussion. As for the Lennon look, could say that John Sebastian (Lovin' Spoonful) had a similar style, although often had a side parting in his hair.
John was a genius to be sure. But anyone to suggest Paul wasn't (with all his songs, ideas like Pepper and Let it Be etc. is absurd). They are two equals of the same branch. It's a shame and a horrific tragedy John's life was cut short, but it does not change/negate that Paul was his every bit equal. ... I really appreciate Anthony's even keel approach on his channel.
For sure, the original James Paul McCartney was every bit Lennons equal. The imposter (1967- 2022) 55 years of deception by the way, maybe had a flicker of creativity no doubt rubbed off by hanging with John Lennon, contributed a handful of good tunes , and several bubble gum type, sugary pop, and kind of fruity songs. At no time does he match anything written by the late John Lennon . And over the solo career of the imposter (Faul), his 20 or so albums were mostly filler, maybe 2 were outstanding .But even Band on the run had its share of bubble gum pop, think Mrs.Vanderbuilt , and sing along with Ho, Hey Ho!
@@stancruz4809 The creators of that HOAX explained it: fans were always "figuring out" the "meanings" of "clues" that actually had no meaning. You have no idea what "The Beatles" music was in context: they were all along cutting edge, above all the other music of the time. If you believe they made "bubble gum" music -- a phrase that didn't exist until later -- then you are uninformed about their behaviors in Hamburg. In sum, you don't know what you're talking about.
@@marvymarier8988 Yes,as a matter of fact I do believe it. Although it sucks, It is fact. Do some research, read The Memoirs of Billy Shears, and look up " The sage of Quay " Mike Williams. Pay attention . Carry on.
Full disclosure, Anthony. I was diagnosed with BPD some 22 years ago. My childhood, teenage years and young adulthood were peppered with horrible incidents that shaped my illness. When I see John, I recognise such a similar path. His perceived abandonment by his parents, the death of his Uncle and his Mother all would have had a terrible effect on his mental health. His attitude seemed to suggest he wanted to leave people before they left him. John seemed to be scared of abandonment and to control the situation, he preempted it. Be that with Cynthia, Paul, Yoko, May Pang or The Beatles. So, in essence, I believe John may have been suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder. I see parallels with myself, without the genius bit and this illness is almost always is triggered by childhood trauma. It manifests itself as self harm, self sabotage, eating disorders, promiscuity, depression and anxiety. These symptoms are frequently managed by alcohol and drug use. To be honest, I would be more shocked if John hadn’t BPD. Christ, if that makes any sense I’d be shocked, Anthony but it’s a theory I’ve held for a while now. I really can’t imagine a young John Lennon coming through such a childhood unscathed mentally. By the way, brilliant episode as usual mate. Definitely get Erin back at some point.
Hi David, sorry for not replying at the time. Thank you for your honesty and I pretty much agree with you though so hard to know. I recommend Episode 41, where a therapist did attempt a very broad diagnosis
It's tragic what parents do to children. It seems everyone carries a form of trauma. Your comment is interesting and from the heart. Stay well my friend.
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Mrs. Torkelson-Weber is what a historian SHOULD BE she is after facts, supported facts not a biased angle...which almost every Beatle historian, except maybe Lewishn seems to have. She is marvelous.
Yes, I agree
Loved this conversation [which is criminally under viewed/listened to on YT] and thanks for all the links, too.
This was unreal. Unreal. Thank you to you and the awesome Erin.
Glad you liked it ☺️. Please spread the word
Thanks, Antony and Erin! Great conversation! :) MU
Cheers Mark (this is Antony)
Still catching up on these shows , In my70s and love the beatles this is the most in depth info you can get ,so SUBSCRIBE.
Brilliant discussion. As for the Lennon look, could say that John Sebastian (Lovin' Spoonful) had a similar style, although often had a side parting in his hair.
Pretty sure I read or heard that Sebastian was the very model he was copying, something about JL liking the combo of the look and the piano
Peter Tork of the Monkees last name was actually Thorkelson. Close, but no cigar. BTW, I bought Ms. Weber's book.
The "Get back"doc showed Mc Cartney co-writing "gimme some truth".
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John was a genius to be sure. But anyone to suggest Paul wasn't (with all his songs, ideas like Pepper and Let it Be etc. is absurd). They are two equals of the same branch. It's a shame and a horrific tragedy John's life was cut short, but it does not change/negate that Paul was his every bit equal. ... I really appreciate Anthony's even keel approach on his channel.
John created the Beatles , without John , there would be no beatles . Listen to the first few albums .
But John and Paul together were incredible.
For sure, the original James Paul McCartney was every bit Lennons equal. The imposter (1967- 2022) 55 years of deception by the way, maybe had a flicker of creativity no doubt rubbed off by hanging with John Lennon, contributed a handful of good tunes , and several bubble gum type, sugary pop, and kind of fruity songs. At no time does he match anything written by the late John Lennon . And over the solo career of the imposter (Faul), his 20 or so albums were mostly filler, maybe 2 were outstanding .But even Band on the run had its share of bubble gum pop, think Mrs.Vanderbuilt , and sing along with Ho, Hey Ho!
@@stancruz4809 Do you really believe that story ?
@@stancruz4809 The creators of that HOAX explained it: fans were always "figuring out" the "meanings" of "clues" that actually had no meaning.
You have no idea what "The Beatles" music was in context: they were all along cutting edge, above all the other music of the time. If you believe they made "bubble gum" music -- a phrase that didn't exist until later -- then you are uninformed about their behaviors in Hamburg.
In sum, you don't know what you're talking about.
@@marvymarier8988 Yes,as a matter of fact I do believe it. Although it sucks, It is fact. Do some research, read The Memoirs of Billy Shears, and look up " The sage of Quay " Mike Williams.
Pay attention . Carry on.
Full disclosure, Anthony. I was diagnosed with BPD some 22 years ago. My childhood, teenage years and young adulthood were peppered with horrible incidents that shaped my illness. When I see John, I recognise such a similar path. His perceived abandonment by his parents, the death of his Uncle and his Mother all would have had a terrible effect on his mental health. His attitude seemed to suggest he wanted to leave people before they left him. John seemed to be scared of abandonment and to control the situation, he preempted it. Be that with Cynthia, Paul, Yoko, May Pang or The Beatles.
So, in essence, I believe John may have been suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder. I see parallels with myself, without the genius bit and this illness is almost always is triggered by childhood trauma. It manifests itself as self harm, self sabotage, eating disorders, promiscuity, depression and anxiety. These symptoms are frequently managed by alcohol and drug use. To be honest, I would be more shocked if John hadn’t BPD.
Christ, if that makes any sense I’d be shocked, Anthony but it’s a theory I’ve held for a while now. I really can’t imagine a young John Lennon coming through such a childhood unscathed mentally.
By the way, brilliant episode as usual mate. Definitely get Erin back at some point.
Hi David, sorry for not replying at the time. Thank you for your honesty and I pretty much agree with you though so hard to know. I recommend Episode 41, where a therapist did attempt a very broad diagnosis
It's tragic what parents do to children. It seems everyone carries a form of trauma. Your comment is interesting and from the heart. Stay well my friend.
Turn down the volume on your intro man you blowing my speakers
Ok. This was ages ago, I think it's better now