An Appreciation of William F. Buckley | Charlie Rose
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- William F. Buckley died on February 27, 2008. Buckley was an American author and conservative commentator. He founded the political magazine National Review in 1955, and hosted the television show Firing Line from 1966 until 1999.
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An Appreciation of William F. Buckley | Charlie Rose
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A brilliant intellectual who was among the most eloquent, skilled, and articulate communicators of my lifetime. I was a bit distressed when he said so emphatically: “If I had a pill that would reduce my age by 25 years, I wouldn’t take it. I’m tired of life, I’m utterly prepared to stop living on”. I have never heard one of my idols share such intimate feelings with the public.
Yeah that line! I am not a particular fan of WFB, but that line surprised me and made me shiver.
DID NOT SOLOMON OF THE BIBLE WHO HAD EVERYTHING SAY HE HATED LIFE ?
AFTER YOU GET A CERTAIN AGE YOU COME TO REALIZE THAT IT IS NOT RICHES THAT FULFILLS LIFE BUT
REFLECTING ON THE LIFE ONE HAS LIVED AND HOW THEY HAVE TREATED OTHERS IS THE ONLY THING THAT TRULY MATTERS IN THE END.
BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO HAVE THIS UNDERSTANDING.
I believe he is very brave to admit "I'm tired of life". That is such a astounding statement, yet I believe he is speaking for many others who simply don't say those words because we are taught that we must always fight for 1 more day/month/year. Why can't we logically say "OK, I'm done here". One reason is there is huge money in convincing people they must hang on.
What a touching tribute. Thanks, Charlie Rose.
There is not always a tomorrow.
“I’m tired of life” man what an ending from such a brilliant man.
Strong message from Charlie at the end there....take note.
Well said, Lustre. I'm a fellow Dem who appreciates Buckley's legacy - RIP. And that's a classy tribute from Charlie Rose.
tears, rolling down my American face...
Cum*
I come back to these words at the end of the video more often than I realize
Thanks, Charlie. May you be comforted in this time of loss.
"...because I'm tired of life..."
that comment was devastating to me. It saddens me to no end, yet I don't quite understand what that means. What an intellect that we've lost.
Good riddance to bad rubbish
And i mean both he and rose
@@we_r_2big2fail Ok, good rubbish.
@@we_r_2big2fail what a weird way to say that you're a strawman
@@malayangtanglaw8681 i agree... buckley is a huge strawman and a joke. He couldn't get society to agree on his shit ideas and realized that humans are naturally liberal. In order for humans to get along peacefully, the only way is through the aspiration of liberal ideals. Conservative ideals seek to keep specific people below others. Nature and the universe won't allow this, the universe only seeks equilibrium, the human species live for nothing else but equity (look it up... It's not the same as equality). He didn't want to live in that kind of world of liberal ideals, so good riddance. If you're not willing to acknowledge the true humanity of people unlike you (not the untrue image created in his mind of people unlike him), then you don't deserve this life. Quit your whining and play well with others so you won't be miserable all your life.
I admire Charlie's composure in his last sentence
God bless your Soul Mr. Buckley
you awakened many minds, and were the epitome
of learning and truth and changed so much of
peoples thinking for the better.
Amen
@@roughhabit9085
Sorry Mr. Rough that comment was 13 years ago , I now view Buckley as a treacherous militant moderate who fought the real right , Hope hes not burning In Hell to badly though.
What a wonderful dedication by Charlie Rose...and to such a gregarious and loving conservative thinker like Buckley who I have come to know through his "Firing Line" show here on RUclips, otherwise I don't think I would have known that voice and style that he has which I think is absolutely brilliant.
Conservatism=no taxes…….its my money and I don’t care about society. No taxes, no taxes, no taxes…….
I miss these interviews
I'm sure I'm like a lot of people in this respect, but I'm a lifelong Democrat who stumbled onto National Review over 45 years ago and immediately became a Buckley fan in spite of myself, and in spite of a seemingly infinite number of disagreements with his views. The only political writer that I can think of who had a similar joy of life and learning is the late Izzy Stone. Generosity of spirit always can transcend mere politics. Lovely tribute by Charlie Rose, and RIP WFB.
When I watched his show Firing Line, I always agreed with his opponents, such as Michael Kingsley, because I'm opposed to conservativism, but I was always impressed with Buckley's vocabulary, which was second to none.
Yes Charlie Rose was liberal (and obviously had some other problems), but like the old time CBS journalists he was always fair minded and polite. This is a great example. His brand of journalism and interviews is missed.
I'm choking up watching this. Your beautiful eulogy bears testimony to your beautiful friendship. I pray God blesses you in this period of loss. Please remember, Christ makes all things new. God bless.
This was amazing. Bill Buckley was truly more thoughtful in his later years than he ever was in his youth. I watched him for years and rarely found a point of agreement. To finally stumble upon this gem of him saying, "I'm utterly prepared to stop living on" is spectacular! I, too, was utterly prepared for him to stop living!
I loved firing line
I watched Mr. Buckley when I was living in NYC, (sixties), the TV debates, him vs. Gore Vidal were spectacular. In my opinion he was one of the most honest intelectuals of our times. I will miss him very much.
Honest? He presented a totally dishonest version of himself for most of his life through his phony, affected, arrogant accent.
He laid waste to every opponent
Thank you Mr. Rose.
Buckley turned out alright rest in peace sir
Thanks for posting this.. One of the greatest men who ever lived. His influence will go on for generations.
We mustn’t forget that William F Buckley was openly homophobic, and when Aids first appeared, he suggested that gay men should be tattooed on the buttock. He was also extremely racist, and for a long time he approved of racial segregation, though later he seems to have come to understand that this would conflict with his image, which is the only apparent reason he stopped. However, he continued to write with gross insensitivity about Africans. The man was full of hatred and was little more than an arrogant bigot
His influence WILL persist for generations, but not for “good” reasons. This pernicious man used his formidable intellect and silken, forked tongue to cloak a pathologically xenophobic, misanthropic view of humanity which lays the ideological foundation and framework for our continued immiseration and exploitation as a species and the death of our planet. We are only just beginning to uncover the horrors contained within the Pandora’s box opened by the political movement of which this man is the primary forebear: American Christian Conservatism. No bueno, señor, no bueno…
@@Jim54_ absolutely. Not to mentioned it’s widely rumored/acknowledged he was himself a closeted homosexual. Or if not explicitly oriented homosexually, had a great many dalliances with men, engaging in the same sort of proclivities he used his career and platform to pillory, shame, and humiliate. The man was a twat of the highest order. But hey, self-loathing makes people say and do crazy things, eh?
That shirt is trying to hypnotize me.
Thank you Mr. Rose for your tribute to Bill Buckley. I envy you because you had the oppurtunity to know such an this incedible man.
I've always admired WFB, but the book by his son about his parents was so depressing I couldn't finish it. It's the marvel of life I suppose.
I enjoyed this eulogy.
Bill Buckley RIP
What an hero
Beautiful. Thank you so much for posting this.
WFB was amazingly intelligent. As a founder of the modern conservative movement, we all owe him a great debt of gratitude. As for his detractors, they're not even terriers nipping at his heels. That's an insult to terriers.
Long live WFB ... I wept when he passed away. Back in the early 90's when I had a bit of idealism, there were thoughts I might replace him one day. I was only dreaming of course. Charlie Rose had a brilliant show as well.
I am a little surprised that Charlie Rose was all choked up at the end there. I mean I never saw his throat tighten like that when mother Teresa died. I always thought they came from totally different camps and that Charlie Rose saw through and was above his act.
LORD,, we miss buckley
wise words
Miss his political discourse.
He was an intellectual lightweight.
@@yevgeniyzharinov7473 doubtful there was anything truly intellectual about it
@@we_r_2big2fail maybe a little.
We mustn’t forget that William F Buckley was openly homophobic, and when Aids first appeared, he suggested that gay men should be tattooed on the buttock. He was also extremely racist, and for a long time he approved of racial segregation, though later he seems to have come to understand that this would conflict with his image, which is the only apparent reason he stopped. However, he continued to write with gross insensitivity about Africans. The man was full of hatred and was little more than an arrogant bigot
Mr Buckley you are a great American. God Bless you sir !
Buckley clearly softened over the years
He was embarrassed by his past behavior
@@christinharmon7249 lol
@@christinharmon7249 such a snoot he was
@@christinharmon7249 And rightly so.
R.I.P. William.
Achilles: Plus, he wasn't a hypocrite like many of today's politicians. It seemed he followed through on what he believed and on the rare occasion would change his opinions [ie Racism].
Whoa, dude...I didn't misunderstand anything she said. She is educated, intelligent and simply needs to shut her big mouth at times.
"I thought hell is bound to be a livelier place, as he joins forever those whom he served in life, applauding their prejudices and fanning their hatred."
(Gore Vidal, June 15 2008)
F*** Gore Vidal
NGS712:
at the end of the day, it is what a person means in their incessant articulation of their motivation that matters. I am leaning towards the angle that her motivation is from a heart of love, that is dealing with foolishness as any decent woman would in similar circumstance; with expressed disdain yet leaving the glimmer of clarity or hope to any sense available to the contextual 'fool'. This makes Anne a potential matriarch of humanity, and so worth, at least, a compassionate smile.
wow charlie was so broken up he unconsciously reverted back to his original southern drawl.. incredible how our emotions can effect us
Charlie Rose you were invited to go sailing with William Buckley and you were busy with something or someone else? Wow!
We mustn’t forget that William F Buckley was openly homophobic, and when Aids first appeared, he suggested that gay men should be tattooed on the buttock. He was also extremely racist, and for a long time he approved of racial segregation, though later he seems to have come to understand that this would conflict with his image, which is the only apparent reason he stopped. However, he continued to write with gross insensitivity about Africans. The man was full of hatred and was little more than an arrogant bigot
I second that :)
I would love to see Buckley have it out with Charles Buckowski.
The only reason reason I have a good opinion of Charley Rose is because of his good opinion of William Buckley.
Meanwhile it's 2020 and they're both disgraced assholes
WFB is a hero...amazing life
itreeye: I agree. It's absolutely ridiculous how there is almost no civil debate anymore. It's all, "They're ruining the country!" or "They WILL ruin the country!"
As I've said, I think that both sides are necessary. And that one or the other should not act as though it should be the only one that should exist.
Charlie Rose obviously has class. Buckley statements about old age are real and unfortunate.
NGS712:
To clarify my analogy, I am saying that if Nambla were to have reached to debate podium in WFB's day, they would have been evicerated without mercy. Because these days they do reach the podium of actually being considered, we have the inevitable 'Anne' type response. I'm saying that WFB would have been hard pressed not to deal harshly w/ the foolishness reasonable people are subjected to these days in public debate.
The greatness of Discovering WFB Jr. was for me like Christopher Columbus discovering America.
He continuously prised open your intellect and ensured that it was kept fit for the marathon that is life.
I owe him, as do we all, a deep debt of gratitude. Thank you GOD for his creation.
Here's an example: Bush using signing statements to qualify congressional statutes he signed into law. Conservative legal scholars, except Bush's own counsel, agree this violates the Article I legislative process. He must sign or veto. He cannot modify. Or, "do you fail to understand about "checks and balances" and "co-equality"?
I try constitutional law cases for a living,so the media is not the basis for my understanding. What you don't understand is that it doesn't matter how wrongly decided the decisions were: The FL Supreme Court, reviewable only by the US Supreme Court, has the last word on questions of state law. Not Congress. Not unless you "wipe your ass" on the Constitution (which gives Congress no power to interfere in these matters)and principles of federalism which the GOP pretend to cherish.
lictor: Very nice tribute.
Who is Revilo Pendleton Oliver?
Who knows if I agree with his political views, I imagine I don't, but he does have a pleasant voice and accent. I imagine he would be a good narrator.
Chomsky does not "rigorously refuse to take into full account the well documented depravities of Mao and Stalin and the death-obsessed jihadists." Sir, you miss the thrust and intention of Chomsky's criticism, which you might hear him explain in the video of his debate with Buckley: he is interested in US participation in depraved behavior as a reflection on himself as a US citizen. He is interested in morality.
NGS712:
No, I am suggesting that dialougue in culture has changed to the point that a young WFB jr. nowadays would never be able to get his views out, or put up a decent fight, as he did when he started years ago. (at least if he were to again listen to his Father) I submit that an unprecedented unwillingness to reason together in culture has spawned the likes of Anne and Rush, etc. Can you imagine the sarcasm Nambla would have faced back in WFB's day? They would never have reached the podium.
FRING LINE HIS INVENTION & HIS POLITICAL MAGAZINE " NATIONAL REVIEW". . R.I.P. TO WILLIAM J. BUCKLEY JR. FROM U.K. (2022).
Charlie sounds and looks like he's about to cry. Understandably so, Bill was the man. That's all I can say and I pride myself on being something of an articulate speaker, but I pale in comparison to the man, the myth, the legend that was William F. Buckley. Rest in Peace, Sir.
gailkj:
You say he is/was a phony, but if you are wrong that means that you are the phoney, by a logical default of your own argument. So can you prove that he was "a phoney" by any other means than your feelings telling you what to say?
1:45 "creating prooose" hahaha idk why but that was funny. the stare, drawn out annunciation......creating proose haha. just click on it. do it.
In the words of Charles Williams upon hearing of the death of GK Chesterton, "The last of my lords is dead". Rest well Bill.
I don't know much about WFB, but I respect his ability to engage in civil and eloquent debate.
There was only one thing I did not like about this clip [except for it's relative briefness] and that's the huge Ann Coulter ad off to the side. A horrible contrast in personalities.
He had lost his wife the year before.
Gallagher: I saw that debate and while Chomsky in my opinion won, I thought that Buckley defended himself better than any of today's right-wing pundits could.
Also you can't judge how Buckley was on just that ONE debate. That show was on for over 30 yrs., I'm sure the man was not a nitwit.
I speak as a liberal when I say that this man, from what I've seen, was an intellectual and is a MAJOR loss to Conservatives. They just had a leg cut out from under them.
Tomorrow you will live, you always cry;
In what fair country does this morrow lie,
That 'tis so mighty long ere it arrive?
Beyond the Indies does this morrow live?
'Tis so far-fetched, this morrow, that I fear
'Twill be both very old and very dear.
'Tomorrow I will live,' the fool does say;
Today itself's too late -- the wise lived yesterday.
-Marcus Valerius Martialis
RIP WFB (I must also salute his friend Revilo Pendleton Oliver- both were the best men of the past generation)
If you define conservatives only as people who strictly adhere to their self-avowed conservative principles, by definition, no conservative ever stray from their principles. Its circular. Furthermore, by your defintion, I cannot think of one pure conservative in Congress today. ALL politicians do what's expedient on a regular basis. Even McCain, who takes more unpopular but principled stances than most (e.g. on torture, the surge, and spending).
Uncle: I don't feel this is an appropriate place to continue our discussion. Feel free to send your reply as a private message.
I think this space should be reserved for those who wish to honor Buckley.
NGS712:
"...the huge Ann Coulter ad off to the side. A horrible contrast in personalities"
Although they did respect each other. Therefore either WFB was wrong to respect her, or you are wrong to question his judgment. This is ironic, if true, as you are writing a note declaring your appreciation for his abilithy to make and engage in the art of seeking rational judgement.
I don't disrespect the dead so I won't however he was very rude and disrespectful to Hewey P Newton and comments were disabled so I decided to comment on ANY video about him just to say he didn't do a very good job interviewing that man. No one's perfect.
With that said,
R.I.P to both Hewey P Newton and This man
He was a segregationist, in 1957 he wrote The South Must Prevail, a defense of segregation.
Rex: Very insightful.
I watched Buckley as a boy and was always impressed with his quick wit and ability to remember names. Looking back now as an adult, it is remarkable how many issues Buckley got wrong. History should not be so kind to him.
Wrong? Who's destroying this country; turning cities like Detroit, Chicago, even San Francisco, into dumps?
TECHKLEC:
"Her vicious attacks on the widows of 9/11 crossed the line."
Yet the fact that apparently you misunderstood her meaning in addressing them & the issue is supposed to be a profound justification of your condemnation? How can you back up your judgement of her point as utterly selfish? Go for it. If you cannot, than you have judged another person as unworthy based on a worthless presumption, and so as an unjust man.
You are choosing to be the accuser, yet in truth you have no power.
essanay: As a liberal and though I am not religious, I do believe there is a Heaven and there is a hell. I have no problem with atheists, but I do have a problem when radical atheists or religious followers are so close-minded to other beliefs.
Each individual should be allowed to believe in what they see fit and not be harassed by bigots such as youself.
ISblunt: What does 'CFR' mean?
clod: Very few do seem to think for themselves.
Humans are often not much more than sheep . . . the main difference being we cannot sheer ourselves for sweaters. ;)
The Buckley was actually A Roman Catholic..
He'll be sorely missed?
Never has one man so consistently maintained as stubborn a will to be on the wrong side of history.
Although I appreciate his charm and his vocabulary, I don't appreciate these in the context of conservative policies. I do respect him on this note, he thought for himself and was willing to change his point of view if it no longer made sense to him.
Oh, Charlie Rose pays tribute to William F. Buckley. Let me be direct: That _won't_ strengthen Buckley's legacy!
Charlie Rose can say he never bet on baseball, but I don't believe him! He will never be in the Hall of Fame!
dinner: Well you can't always agree with some people, unfortunately.
itreeye: No one says something that does not come from a motivation from a 'heart of love', but it is how they express it.
I can't excuse her for her manner in speaking and how does she deal with 'foolishness'? Or for that manner how is she a 'potential matriarch of humanity'? You apparently see something in there which many do not.
padseen: Great comment about a great comment!
What ever happened to the time when liberals and conservatives were opponents, not enemies?
Where's another WFB when you need one?
gulag mentality? im sorry but his action precisely opposed what leads to Gulags.
And as the fact are now being discovered, it turns out McCarthy was largely correct. the National Security Agency (which intercepted every Soviet message between the US and USSR) released in 94 the first 1400 of 240 000 correspondences. Their content were supportive of the contentions of not only McCarthy but Whittaker Chambers, Elizabeth Bentley, Hoover, and others.
An unpleasant man, mostly. On his tv show he had a habit of going straight to ad hominem insinuations when he was losing the debate. And when losing he had a way of leaning forward from his chair into the faces of people, in a crouch of aggression, even with women. A huge ego, but glad to hear he had a capacity for regret and seemed to have mellowed with age.
The show was never intended to be an interview or debate program, and he stood by this claim all throughout his life. The show was always (Except in the original pitch to Buckley) intented to be an exchange of ideas.
When Al Gore once said to him during the break "I know much more about the TVA than you do" to which Mr. Buckley replied "Your only responsibility here is to prove you know more about the TVA than I do." And he states quite frankly in the opening pages of his book on Firing Line that he was almost always at a disadvantage.
I don't disagree that he was unpleasant however. Mr. Vidal and Mr. Buckley were very alike, much more than either of them could really ever bear. The key differences being Buckley though half as knowledgeable as Gore was a lot more personable and could act amiability and civility with great ease. Which made him much more approachable and presentable- while Gore instead embraced his identity.
@@Arareemote ' amiability and civility '? He was a bigot.
@@Arareemote he didn't like blacks, he didn't like jews, he didn't like gays, he didn't like liberals, he didn't like protestants, he didn't like the working class, he didn't like intellectual women. Not sure how many people that left in the population as targets for his amiable civility.
@@lucianopavarotti2843 It was a contrived manner certainly, but one he adopted and adopted well nonetheless. If you don't recognize that, you need only look a little further.
This was one of the things people objected to most about him, that beyond the facade he was a "crackpot." It's why Gore often called him disingenuous.
infoanalysis:
I thought it was because he was friends with WFB, not just an aquaintance. I doubt he had a similar friendship with Mother Teresa.
Buckley's show Firing Line was boring and that was because I was a kid in the 1980s. The only thing that I liked was the theme song. It was only that I've matured enough to admire his conservative arguments in a charming, witful manner. He was never a loudmouth like the shock jocks @ fox news or MSNBC. He made PBS special....Now he's gone...forever...just like Louis Rukeyser, Mr. Rogers, Shari Lewis, Alistair Cooke, Justin Wilson, Julia Child, etc. Is Public TV dying I wonder?
Uncle: I can't think of a specific example. I am not one of those who cries wolf.
What is this 'popular mythology' you refer to?
The only problem I see is that the politicians in the gov't. seemed more concerned with conquering the political landscape.
I think that both Liberalism and Conservatism have credibility, albeit in different areas. Both are necessary, in my opinion, to run the country successufully. Also, it would be dangerous to have either one ideology completely control.
etsneroj:
"Conservatives most often claim the high road re: the constitution, so their compromises perhaps contain an extra dose of hypocracy."
Are you saying that you believe it is better to have lower standards so as not to fail, than to reach for perfection and so fail so much more spectacularly by contrast?
If so I think you're wrong. Politicians are representatives, like preachers, and so should all the more have high ideals and willingess to try and live up to them.
"He brought intellect to the forefront, something you don't seem to understand."
IS THIS A JOKE? WELL I HEAR EVERYBODY LAUGHING SO...Come on, look at the debate between Mr. Buckley and Chomsky. WHERE IS YOUR "INTELLECT" NOW? And this comment "It's amazing what a slimy creature Buckley was" is there said by someone else than me! Sarcastic or not, look at that debate or stay in that "Eyes Wide Shut"-mode 4ever...
itreeye: I have said that I respect Buckley for his ability to engage in civil discussion. That does not mean I agree with him.
Therefore, why should I respect Ann Coulter merely because he did?
I have listened to Ann Coulter, she does not merit my respect. She has a right to her opinions, but it is how she presents them which I find so distasteful. Buckley himself was told by his father to speak his views more moderately.
The public face of the political right has gone from William Buckley to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. That's a serious demotion. RIP Buckley
@jayrusniak1 Ending slavery: Lincoln, a republican. War on drugs: Nixon(you get his one) a republican. Who advocated for it to end? Buckley. and while Nixon called it the war on drugs, most of it was made illegal during the time of one of americas most racist presidents of the 20th century: FDR. No Child left behind: written by Ted Kennedy Vietnam: Started by Kennedy, put in the gutter by LBJ. Iraq: Bush, kept going by Obama.
Yep, seems like liberalism is great!
Ann Coulter and William F. Buckley are (were) both 'conservatives', but the similarity ends there.
Buckley was vile... his effete superior way of talking always infuriated me... there's a clip on YT of Gore Vidal putting him in his place.
profound