Thanks for the video. I think Bane's GAC prowess is working as intended, even if it's a little higher than originally predicted. Where I think balance gets really thrown off is Bane dunking LV in TW as a two man. I know my guild has been using R9 Bane+Sass to kill fully stacked LV comps (relics, datacron, lineup, etc.). This goes beyond Bane's original scope of being a GAC destructive force and catapults him into the conversation of best character in the game. Does CG really want a conquest character to usurp GLs for that title? Time will tell. Personally, I am having a ton of fun dunking teams with Bane, as it takes a huge amount of stress out of PvP knowing I can rely on him to take out my opponent's toughest squad. That said, I can't help but wonder if trivializing every squad (and likely any future squad) is good for the long term health of the game. I guess we will see how scores pan out now that we have a Bane DC and a Darth Sidious DC as solo destructive forces. The age of zero defense GAC will soon be upon us.
Yeah, I can't lie he's fun as hell. I hope *if* they do change him, it's minor stuff, he's awesome as is. Yeah, you are probably right, gac is less the worry but yeah what he's doing outside of gac might be concerning. Thanks for the input!!
If they do nerf him I'd hope it's something like hiding some functionality behind the GAC unique omicron. For example, if rule of two only worked with SEE outside of GAC, but you could get the effects with any random sith while in GAC.
I feel like Bane is a one-off to drive engagement with conquest and get more people paying attention to it and playing it. We've run through a range of utility for conquest characters, and every time a conquest character is released that falls flat for people, the interest and urgency to get conquest characters ASAP is degraded. Maybe Bane was their answer to that. Anyone that didn't go after a day 1 unlock is surely regretting that decision. I don't see a nerf incoming - I think the post from Meathead was to reassure people that the devs are in fact paying attention to game balance and they haven't lost their minds. Sometimes a little imbalance for a little while is fun. I suspect this is just a natural swing of the pendulum further away from the defense meta that's had everyone turtling in GAC for so long. Bane has certainly increased my enjoyment of GAC, win or lose. I'm enjoying your content Ando - keep it coming!
Hey thanks for the input and glad you are enjoying it! I agree there's some fun stuff that can be gathered for some short months of just pure chaos lol. If they choose to keep it I think it's a preview of the potential power creep me may see soonish? Or they'll let this go for a year or so like that Great Nerfening of 2021? I think that was the year where they realize they have worked themselves into a corner and they'll need to readjust. Either way, I'm kind of here for it lol
Really the problem is invalidating GL's, I don't see how they can design a new defensive GL to fend off Bane while also not locking out every other team. I think for the balance of the game they're going to need to adjust Bane in some capacity or the design space for future GL's is going to be really rigid.
Thanks for the video. I think Bane's GAC prowess is working as intended, even if it's a little higher than originally predicted. Where I think balance gets really thrown off is Bane dunking LV in TW as a two man. I know my guild has been using R9 Bane+Sass to kill fully stacked LV comps (relics, datacron, lineup, etc.). This goes beyond Bane's original scope of being a GAC destructive force and catapults him into the conversation of best character in the game. Does CG really want a conquest character to usurp GLs for that title? Time will tell.
Personally, I am having a ton of fun dunking teams with Bane, as it takes a huge amount of stress out of PvP knowing I can rely on him to take out my opponent's toughest squad. That said, I can't help but wonder if trivializing every squad (and likely any future squad) is good for the long term health of the game. I guess we will see how scores pan out now that we have a Bane DC and a Darth Sidious DC as solo destructive forces. The age of zero defense GAC will soon be upon us.
Yeah, I can't lie he's fun as hell. I hope *if* they do change him, it's minor stuff, he's awesome as is. Yeah, you are probably right, gac is less the worry but yeah what he's doing outside of gac might be concerning. Thanks for the input!!
If they do nerf him I'd hope it's something like hiding some functionality behind the GAC unique omicron. For example, if rule of two only worked with SEE outside of GAC, but you could get the effects with any random sith while in GAC.
Yeah, that might be a decent fix there
Your conclusion on what CG is going for is exactly what I feel they're going for. To give him that same functionality of Maul is a great analogy.
Thanks!
I feel like Bane is a one-off to drive engagement with conquest and get more people paying attention to it and playing it. We've run through a range of utility for conquest characters, and every time a conquest character is released that falls flat for people, the interest and urgency to get conquest characters ASAP is degraded. Maybe Bane was their answer to that. Anyone that didn't go after a day 1 unlock is surely regretting that decision. I don't see a nerf incoming - I think the post from Meathead was to reassure people that the devs are in fact paying attention to game balance and they haven't lost their minds. Sometimes a little imbalance for a little while is fun. I suspect this is just a natural swing of the pendulum further away from the defense meta that's had everyone turtling in GAC for so long. Bane has certainly increased my enjoyment of GAC, win or lose.
I'm enjoying your content Ando - keep it coming!
Hey thanks for the input and glad you are enjoying it! I agree there's some fun stuff that can be gathered for some short months of just pure chaos lol. If they choose to keep it I think it's a preview of the potential power creep me may see soonish? Or they'll let this go for a year or so like that Great Nerfening of 2021? I think that was the year where they realize they have worked themselves into a corner and they'll need to readjust. Either way, I'm kind of here for it lol
Really the problem is invalidating GL's, I don't see how they can design a new defensive GL to fend off Bane while also not locking out every other team. I think for the balance of the game they're going to need to adjust Bane in some capacity or the design space for future GL's is going to be really rigid.
Yeah, they effectively gave us our 9th GL. In fact, Bane+ 1 sith is working better in many cases than SEE + sith lol
I admit he is overpowered, but I hope they keep him as is. I love that my favorite character is just running roughshod over the whole game
Lmao, love the honesty. I can't lie, he was a huge answer to all my gac plans. Thanks for the input!