Can Urban Cable Really Ease City Congestion: Michael McDaniel & Jared Ficklin at TEDxAustin
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- With a completely fresh take on how to curb growing traffic problems, industrial designers and insatiable problem solvers, Michael McDaniel + Jared Ficklin thoughtfully propose the use of urban cable (like the gondolas you see in the mountains) as an effective, efficient part of a multi-prong mass transit solution.
They use Austin to demonstrate how this elegantly simply idea can address the most common concerns with implementing mass transit -- among both riders and civic leaders -- and how it has the potential to connect a city in surprising ways. Follow @WireAustin to learn more.
Extend the conversation and expand on ideas with Michael McDaniel & Jared Ficklin: join their Opal Brainstorm at tedxaustin.ouropal.com/brains...
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Be on the lookout for Walt Disney World’s new Skyliner system which is pretty much this concept. Should open this fall 2019
I agree this is a great idea. My concern would be how the gondolas would change the look of Austin with cable cars flying around everywhere. The talk mentions that you would have a beautiful view of Austin coming from the airport; however this picture would be marred with other cable cars in the air. Also, how do you estimate the wait time if there are cars with people already in them? You might have to wait for five cars before one is available.
Love this.
Fort Lauderdale/Miami need this.
Crazy idea - I like it! It's a great perspective on a common problem.
The only problem with Aerial Ropeway Transit is that it is unable to make any curves or bends like other MRTs
Keep an eye out for the talk they made this week at Nerd Nite. Should be up in two weeks. They talk about how wind is not a issue really due to the fact that these are made for Ski resorts so there fore have to work in high wind blizzard conditions.
This idea overlaps many of the original ideas from
the Personal Rapid Transit movement, though it
has the advantage of using off the shelf hardware.
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I love the idea of having gondolas. My one concern is when we have high winds, ski lodges shut down their gondolas during excessive winds and inclement weather. Being in such close proximity to sky scrapers downtown and trees, gondolas would swing potentially causing damage to itself or its surroundings. Is there some kind of plan, or technology that would keep them running and keep them safe?
jamespointblanc Generally these cable car systems can handle wind speeds upto 70km/hr and they are designed in such a way that they are at least 2.5-3 metres above any kind of obstruction like buildings, trees etc.
If winds are dangerously high like in the event of a hurricane, which we rarely get in Austin, the cars are detachable from the cables and the system can be shut down. No swinging cars in high winds.
I love it!!
Great idea!
I can associate with your statement but i have no problem parking my car at the closest station and use mass transit if it saves me the trouble of driving through traffic
Yes, that could be very cool
looks like a great idea
I wonder if these guys have ever waited in a ski lift line?
First 2 minutes, they mention ski lift.
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A very innovative idea, but I would be very interested to see how it would fare if judged by engineers and planners who know a lot about congestion - I can imagine that during rush hours the waiting times could get so long that people wouldn't even bother as gondolas have to be loaded one at a time - trains and buses have a huge advantage in that respect.
Traffic congestion problems in your city? Just gondolize it!
I don't get it. They cite scheduling as a barrier to mass transit adoption. And the proposed solution to this problem is to have carts whirring alongside major downtown routes and highways. They're claiming the scheduling problem is solved by continuous operation that guarantees a time of X minutes along the wire. But this ignores the variable length of lines at stations, not to mention the increased total time for a trip as you zip through the air at a _top_ speed of 15 mph.
Sounds amazing, but what about air conditioning / heating? And speed? Airport to convention center in 19 minutes doesn't seem realistic for one of these cable cars; although that would be a little slow compared to drive time with no traffic.
They mentioned AC and heat --- these systems are usually climate controlled wherever they exist. Is the speed that big a concern during rush hour when we really need an alternative to sitting still on the freeway? Also, just speaking for myself, I would want to ride these things on a regular basis just for fun, and the fact that it's somewhat slow would be a plus as I stared out the window. I know I'm not the only one who would enjoy this type of system. It has so much going for it, I think all the negatives are easily outweighed. To me, the least desirable thing about it is that it's kind of ugly, like high-tension power lines. The shot of it going over Zilker Park, for example, didn't look appealing and I think it would really detract from the enjoyment of any park if you had transportation going overhead.
***** Show us a single gondola system (anywhere!) that has HVAC. Simple fact, except for solar-powered circulating fans, cable has nothing, and until AC and speed arrive, it will only work in places where people will tolerate its failings.
Dave Brough Since I posted the comment you're responding to, I've read more about the practicality of gondolas and have become convinced that they're not a viable solution for most places in their present form. And this is without even considering the additional problems you've brought to my attention! So... what do you think of monorail?
The London Emirates Air Line Gondolas are air conditioned. Here is an article explaining how. gondolaproject.com/2012/09/12/how-londons-emirates-air-line-cable-car-powers-cabins/
My only problem with this pitch is, why is it a TEDx talk? Yeah, it's a decent idea, probably a great one, but it belongs at a city council meeting, not a forum for intellectual enlightenment.
khayman042 yeah it’s pretty cool. They actually have brought it to city council meetings. Though I don’t know where it went from there
Will this design ignore the East side like the rest of ATX transit?
Speed. What about speed??
EyesOfTheLion 11 Mono Cable Detachables can go upto 7 m/s where as Tri cable systems can attain a speed upto 8.5 m/s, which is more than enough for decongesting the traffic & providing last mile connectivity
when did ted became shark tank?
keep austin wired
If you make them too comfortable the unbathed homeless will take up residence in them and make the trip awful.