Are Pride Flags Free to Use? 🏳️🌈
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Do businesses pay to use Pride flag designs? Usually no, except in the case of the Progress Pride Flag, designed by Daniel Quasar in 2018. The design represents the evolving 2SLGBTQ+ community, with chevrons symbolizing moving forward. And it's super popular. But the Progress Pride flag falls under a Creative Commons license. Anyone is free to use it as long as you’re not making money off it. If a business is trying to profit from it … then the rules change. Daniel has set up a tiered system to get compensation for their work. By their discretion smaller businesses can usually use it for free. But big companies need to get permission and negotiate a license. It's unclear how much Daniel has made from this tiered system. On their personal site it shows commissioned work plus collabs…. even with Lyft and DC Comics. Now, the traditional rainbow flag is free for anyone to use. It’s part of the public domain. Some people think the Progress Pride Flag should also be public domain, to be used freely. Others think the artist should be able to make money, especially from big corporations that profit from Pride.
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The goal was for big corporations not to us our identity for profit so i like it
I actually love that tiered system. That small businesses can just use it but big businesses that would have money to spare to have to pay
That’s not how it works. Small businesses using the flag commercially would be required under the license to pay quasar.
making sure big corp is paying is such a genius idea!
I think its fine, the artisit seems to only plan on profiting off of big companies who in turn want to profit off of the queer community. Its a fair ballance.
The person that invented the lesbian flag was in a very bad situation and needed donations meanwhile Disney has lesbian flag merch for free 😠
they’re not a girl, but yes-they came out as nonbinary a while ago
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Someone said that they aren’t the OG creator and there’s an instance of it on tumbler a year before they posted it
Especially while the artist is alive, artists are rarely paid for their contributions and Almaty never celebrated until they pass. They deserve to be paid for making something that is so important and everyone wants to use
I like the tiered system!
Can we do this with more things? Like taxes?
lol i almost choked on my water thanks
I like this honestly the community can use it but cooperations who use queer people for the monetary insentive have to pay.
A big corporation profiting from the progress flag and not using it to help and benefit the people it represents is the exact opposite of what the flag stands for
I like that small businesses don’t pay and big ones do
anything to get big corporations to pay for artists.
I think the tiered system was absolutely the way to go, and huge props to Daniel for that.
It let's individuals and small businesses have access to something they identify with free of charge or with a lesser charge, but kinda encourages big companies to think twice about using such an important symbol. In addition, the artist gets paid AS HE DESERVES TO!
I really like the ethics of that tiered system.
I really love that tiered system! Proud to share a name with the person who came up with it
Tbh I never understood the point of the flag with that arrow. The original flag is better because sometimes less is more. I’ve heard that the arrow is for representation in the areas of the community that are not represented in the regular flag but how is that possible since the entire point of a rainbow is that it includes the entire spectrum of visible light so the regular flag already covers everybody
i love that idea, i think every flag should do it.
I think that it would be more beneficial if they stopped using any pride flag and instead donated to pride related charities.
I really like the system they have in place. Anyone can use it so long as they’re not making money off of it which is great. Smaller businesses get it for free so small independent queer people can make merchandise for themselves each other based on their own identities which is great.
Big corporations that have the money to pay for licensing fees and since they’re gonna profit off of our identities, anyways totally makes sense they should have to pay
I’m all from taking money from rich companies, the problem usually is that it also takes money from the small businesses and people but if that’s not happening then there is no problem
Only big Companies paying is more than fair. More stuff should be like that
The way it is now is actually perfect
I love these videos! So entertaining and informative! Keep it up!!! ❤❤❤
Yes he should be able to profit within reason. Im glad someone in the community owns it.
What about the progress flag that includes the intersex flag?
I think its good thay big corporations that make profit from pride have to pay. They should
I like the idea of big corps needing to pay whereas small businesses dont, because the big corps can afford it and it keeps them from just slapping a rainbow on for a month and profit while actually not giving a damn whereas small businesses can't always afford it but are usually far more likely to not just use the rainbow for profit for a month
In this case as an artist myself I would probably charge big cooperations and donate the money to lgbtqia+ charities. He should be able to make money off of it but getting rich without giving back also doesn’t feel right in this particular case 💜
I think for what it represents one person should not profit I think it would be fine to work the way it works if 100% of what was given to him was given directly to help LGBT youth and we had a way to prove that I understand it is his art, but it’s a flag that is supposed to represent a bigger community so it cannot be his that’s the ethical way
I mean there's one that's free and he designed it so he can do whatever he wants with it and shoud profit of it
Yeah obv, dont use our identity for profit, but when big corporations do anyways Daniel should at least be making a little bit of money from that
It’s… a few lines that mean screw all yeah anyone should use it
logos are just a few lines too
Get that bag
Idc if he makes money out of things HE made. It's great that the big corps can't use it whenever they like.
I like the idea of wralth being funneled into the lgbt community fromg corporations, but i still dislike the idea of such a community based symbol, thay describes a whole movement of people not being in the public domain.
Maybe if this person was to domate a large amount of the profits or smthn, but idk. It irks me.
Honestly let them pay daniel a fuck ton lmao
Get the Bag Daniel
I hate your flag though Daniel I think it's ugly I'll stick with the og rainbow but you do you I'll be your cheerleader
If corpos are gonna try to get ouroeny better make money outta them
He is probably milking alot of money FOR HIMSELF... JUST LIKE HOW BLACK LIVES MATTTERS AS AN ORGANIZATION DID WITH THEIR DONATIONS (and went bankrupt from all the misspending).
Gatekeep corporations from coopting pride for profit
It's awful! Use the og
Yikes.
ima be honest that man that made the LGBTQ+ flag i don't like him
Why? Because why you gotta use the rainbow color im not saying that it's bad or anything but now whenever i draw something that has the rainbow color in it. it's always "that's gay" or "you know what that means right" , like im just coloring nothing else, why can't the rainbow be just a rainbow?
Also, im not hating on him im just saying that i don't like him so don't come after me
The rainbow has never been just a rainbow and why do you care so much that people might think you are gay?
@chainlinkfence4963
No, that's not what I ment . I don't care if they assume that I'm gay or not, but do some people really have to say that "that gay" or something whenever I have the rainbow color in a drawing or if I'm just drawing a rainbow
Also, im pretty sure that a rainbow is just a rainbow, but now some people say that a rainbow always represents the LGBTQ which isn't true.
Can I ask also ask why you're mad at me? im just saying an opinion of mine
I wouldn't use it if you paid me.
no one asked you to use it
@@simplynailogica It's June.
@@jdotoz What does that have to do with this? You're not forced to put up pride flags during pride month.
@@JamieNoah638 The video is about whether you have to pay to use it.
@@jdotoz "it's June" has nothing to do with payment. You replied with that to someone telling you that no one asked you to use it and I replied to that.
I think this should apply to all pride flags. The designer of the sunset lesbian flag has been in and out of homlessness despite corporations selling items with the design
yes! i just saw a couple weeks ago that she was on the brink of poverty, and i thought that was so horrible considering how much she and her design did for the lgbtq+ community!
100%
@@lvxesickk-can we donate to her paypal?
@@lvxesickk-they are*-emily gwen hasn’t used she/her pronouns for a while!
oh, im so sorry!
I believe that the artist should get money for his design until his death. Afterwards it would be nice to have the profits going to queer associations so it can help the people it was made for
Let them pay. Big company's are the same company's that under pay. Especially the people in the LGBTQIA+ community.
Nothing wrong with getting payed for your design, even if it's simple. I prefer the Rainbow flag, just a preference.
I'd probobly feel obligated to donate some, especially if it's a sizeable amount. Not sure if they are doing it.
I would like to see it become public domain at some point, if it continues to be this popular.
I like having the progress flag under creative commons. I personally prefer the traditional rainbow, but its an easy litmus test for which businesses are actually willing to put their money where their mouth is
I mean. They could also you know. Donate to charities instead of paying one person. That's still putting their money where their mouth is.
If they are profiting from pride, pride should profit from them
I think charging vig businesses to use it is actually cool and based
The progress pride flag ignores the fact that the og flag was meant to include everyone
kind of but no
@@UrMissingSock the original one represented everyone in the community, the new one represents everyone in the community plus trans people and what the other colors represent
@@N08R76H yeah exactly why it’s better
It doesn’t really “ignore” that. One purpose of the progress flag is being EXPLICIT about inclusion. Yes, anyone is technically included in the rainbow, but transphobes and racists exist in the LGBTQ community, too, and it’s a challenge sometimes finding safe LGBTQ spaces away from them. No flag guarantees a person is genuinely inclusive, but in my experience, the people excluding trans people and qpoc really hate the progress flag and will pick the rainbow flag instead. After all, if you advocate for trans people to be excluded, you don’t usually want to use a flag that explicitly marks their inclusion with the trans flag colors.
That doesn’t mean rainbow flag = bigot-all varieties of people use the rainbow flag, including me. But I’m a believer that while words and symbols aren’t actions (using a flag doesn’t mean you’re erasing transphobia or racism in the lgbtq community), they still mean something.
The other thing about it is that the creator of the rainbow flag regretted not making it copyrighted in any way, because corporations made huge profits off it while the creator lived in poverty and got nothing. The creator of the progress flag wanted corporations to actually pay LGBTQ creatives for the flag.
@UrMissingSock no pride flag should be burned
I usually prefer public domain but the artist is more likely to use that money to better their community or donate to charities than a business who just wants to make a quick buck on seasonal products
Def keep it behind a paywall for big corporations
Just hope theyd donate some half of it to charities
The person who made the lesbian pride flag that is so widely used is barely recognised and most of the time living off of donations from people. So yes this is perfect, they should be able to charge big corps for using pride flags that are meant for the community, not profit for the big fishes
The point of copyright is so artist's will be encouraged to make more cool things by being able to turn a profit on their works WITHIN THEIR LIFETIME. The mouse and others have ruined this system though. I fully support this artist doing what they feel is right with their work. But I think copyright timelines should shrink back to more reasonable lengths. CGP Grey has great videos about the topic.
your nails are so pretty!! i love that the creator gave it for free to smaller business'
If they’re only charging big businesses, I really can’t understand why anyone would be bothered by this.
honestly I think the current system the artist has set up is excellent, getting paid from big corporations who can absolutely afford it and letting small businesses have it for free
So that’s why Everyone Is Awesome has the colours like that probably!
It's not the traditional one! The traditional flag is the Baker flag~ 😊
Good for him
They should pay Emily Gwen for using the pink and orange lesbian pride flag. She's literally homeless while walmart sells merchandise of it
I think it would be cool if the creator but the money earned from the flag toward lgbtq+ foundations or fund raising but also it’s up to the creator
Def keep it behind a paywall for big corporations
Just hope theyd donate some half of it to charities
Broh used pink money against them 👏
The 2 what bahahaha
idk know this 😊 thank you for the info
this is the most many big corporations do to actually support queer people they should absolutely have to pay
They already created the one with the yellow triangle (the intersexual flag), so they already found the loophole, I suppose.
Honestly any big corporation that is needing to pay will probably have enough money that it’d be fine
I wish this was done for the lesbian pride flag :( the creator has been struggling with homelessness for the past several years yet walmart and disney can use that flag for free its so fucked up
All the pride designs should get some money to the creators. If you make such iconic and widely used flags then you should get compensated. It's a great idea to just get it from bigger corporations or people trying to sell a lot of merch with the logo. It makes it so that nobody actually suffers from it coming with a prize. It also discourages huge corporations from pandering just for money
Honestly i prefer the Gilbert Baker flag with the lavender stripe. (My ideal one would be to put the hot pink and teal ones back in too) But i have to admit that the Progress on, despite being an eyesore, is a good litmus test to see if a place is safe. (My fiance is trans)
Listen if Daniel made every business pay I’d say it should be public domain but for big corps who just wanna profit he’ll yea screw them get that coin its also the only lgbt person those companies support during pride
I like the tiered system a lot.
I think the artist deserves to make money- I’m an artist myself and would want to make money off of work like that. I also think a lot of that money should be going directly back into the LGBTQ community via charities, helping fund pride events, etc.
Like the artist deserves a portion of it for creating it, but the only reason anybody should privately ‘own’ it to the point of being able to give permission to use it, is so big corporations can’t just just use it for free.
Idk how businesses or owning something like that works but if there was a way to set it up where someone was more of a ‘manager’ of the permissions and how much people should be paying, and less of a direct ‘owner’ of the thing, that would be ideal.
Just a general, legally-binding, “x% of funds earned from the pride progress flag must be, in some way, shape, or form, returned to the LGBTQ community.” Kind of thing.
Wait what does the 2 stand for?
Two spirited, a term used for native american non binary identities
The people this flag represents should be in prison for what they do to children.
What do we do to children?
@alfiehopkin5795 These creeps know what they do to kids. RUclipss algorithm likes to hide the truth so if I post it I'll just get a hate speech strike.
This is the only pride flag I’m buying from large businesses now
I work at a school and my boss who runs the program at our school has the pride flag with the chevron. 😊
The tiered system is perfect. Are you a queer-owned mom and pop shop? You get it for free! Are you WalMart or Amazon or whatever other megacoorperation? You need fork over some money
TIL! I think making the big corps pay is a good idea. They want to profit off of us and use our pride so they should pay up at least a little. If they also forced small buisnesses to pay then that wouldn't be great, but I'm glad to hear they don't!
I think that companies should be under more scrutiny than just if they have decoration and if they pay for it. They need to be actively working to be more inclusive and contribute to pride and protest movements. Otherwise it’s just another marketing “season” for them.
“Commercial use” of a work doesn’t usually refer to decorating your place of business, it refers to selling items with the work included, so still seeing it used as bunting is no guarantee the right dues are being paid.
That said, it’s a creative work and the author is completely in their rights to exercise their copyrights and assign licenses by the means they see fit
I’m not a member of the lgbtq+ community but a firm ally.
I have mixed feelings about it, this design is almost as ubiquitous as the original one, making me think that it should also be in the public domain.
However, it’s a newer design and not as ubiquitous as the original and I have no problem with corporations having to pay to use and independent artists’ work. Especially when that artist is member of a marginalized demographic.
Yoo wasn't ready for the Pi Co clip. I used to work at one in Saskatchewan. Worst job I've had due to management.
What about the intersex inclusive progress flag?
It's perfect the way it is now.
What's her @ 😍😍😍
W's
I personally hate the progress flag. It feels like a corporate symbol and ignores that the original pride flag was meant to include evryone.
Also it's busy and ugly
@@myheartismadeofstars 100%! The colours all clash and it just looks bad and too much.
@@vampireoligy1699 also before Gilbert Baker died he added a lavender stripe to the original flag: 🏳️🌈
@@myheartismadeofstars I actually didn't know any of that. Which has somehow made me hate it more. It deffiently feels wrong epically taking the black stripe.
@@vampireoligy1699 totally agree. That's why I can't feel comfortable using the newer flags
Ahh so that's who we have to blame for that monstrosity (for the record I'm fully in favor of the message, i just think it's an ugly flag unfortunately)
Same I wish the flag looked more unique like waves or something creative
At this point the entire rainbow will be covered and the roots that made this a pride flag will be forgotten. That flag looks gross. I will never relate to it even though im not heterosexual.
Shouldn't be making money off this type of thing, period. In my opinion trying to normalize being different in loving yourself aswell as others is not something people should be making money off of. It's making money off of people pain and hardship to get recognized. Especially considering most businesses using it don't actually support the minorities at all. Any money made from such a thing should be automatically for donating to minority supporting charities. Not only would that allow for proper continuous support, but also stops turning us into product to profit from, cause we are human not Characters in a story or show to promote. It is also supporting the crazy idea that these people turn younger beings into "a gay" as others say.
Pride flag everywhere, but no business hangs out a flag to celebrate straight people too?
hope this is satire babe cuz im sorry to remind you that straight people have never been killed or discriminated for being straight, im afraid thats common sense
I think people should stop using that ugly flag, there’s nothing wrong with the normal one🏳️🌈, and a flag for trans people already exists 🏳️⚧️, and the black and brown thing should have never happened, the rainbow flag is about being gay, a cross cultural experience and the rainbow was already set to represent everyone already.
POC are one of the big reasons The lgbtqia+ community is what it is today, trans poc in particular, they were a huge part of a lot of movements that earned us rights. The rainbow flag is great, but when people see it they mostly think of homosexuality, not gender identities. The extra stripes are there out of respect and recognition of the WHOLE community, not just what people think of first. By respecting the people who fought for our rights before us, we respect ourselves as well. No one loses in that, the progressive pride flag is arguably better representation than the rainbow flag.
Of course a white person said that
@ATinyWarrior that makes a lot of sense actually, would you then recommend a flag with just the extra stripes for Trans identities?
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huh
I am deeply confused
@@JustAFellowMateit’s not hard to understand
@@sourmilkies Alright.
See? It always was for money and fame only.
That is quite literally the opposite of the truth, are you okay?
That's why everybody knows the name "Daniel Quasar", right?
You'd do better accusing George Washington of just having a revolution for the fame and money.
If someone designed a logo for a business and got paid for it would you also tell them they only wanted fame and money? No, they would be an artist doing a job and it’s the same case here
@@claudiau2620 Tht would be a job they clearly want money for. So now you're saying lgbtq is there to sell their flag to those companies. Ok alr got it 👍😂😂
@@Rahaf-rx4id What about "free to use for people and small businesses" don't you understand?
Artists need to make money, obviously. But someone who is letting people use their work for free isn't in it for the money. If they were, they'd monitise the flag for everyone.
In the USA, fly the Stars and Stripes.
This isn't a country flag...
They are hanging it in gov buildings, in public schools, and painting public streets with it.
Yeah I'm done with DC comics
Yeah I don’t think they’ll miss you, buddy.
I don't think you understand super heroes
I think it's perfect the way things are!! so glad they can and do get compensated for their work from big companies tryna profit off pride 🤍
I think the way daniel is doing it is amazing.