The Elect
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- THE ELECT is a short documentary that takes a fly-on-the-wall look at daily life inside the Westboro Baptist Church.
Paste Magazine lauded the film's "provocative, verite style" that "challenge[s] us to not just become angry with the Westboro Baptist Church but, instead, to feel sympathy for them, especially these children who have little choice in the matter." Film Independent wrote that it was "the most interesting and entertaining film of the night." According to Hammer to Nail reviewer Paul Sbrizzi, "The Elect delivers an experience akin to having tea with Satan in his living room" and that "Moore and Zacek are to be commended for taking on the daunting task of evenly documenting such inflammatory material."
The film premiered at the 2011 Los Angeles Film Festival. It was also selected as one of the six documentary films among the Finalists at the 2011 Angelus Student Film Festival. It screened at the 2012 Dallas International Film Festival and won Audience Choice award at the 2012 VISIONS Film Festival and Conference.
Director/Editor/Producer: Dan Moore & Erin Zacek
Reviews and coverage:
Paste Magazine: goo.gl/s9dSi
Hammer to Nail: bit.ly/kuBoGa
Film Independent: bit.ly/jbTgVI
Seven Sees: bit.ly/oEorqO
The only good thing that comes out of this is that all of the younger kids are leaving and there is no new members. This cult is dying out!
Shirley is a force to be reckoned with, if she wasn't in this cult there's no telling what she could have accomplished.
I love my mother, Shirley Phelps-Roper... She just has her notions of God based completely out of a book instead of her heart and mind... She is brainwashed, as I once was.
Jeremiah 17:9
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Romans 1 15-23
15 so, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
If you're getting god from your heart you're changing him into a corruptable thing. Your heart is deceptive. Read your bible because it is ordained of God for men. It has been translated for you that you may understand it. "Learn" of him, not "Make" him.
Btw, your mother will be with Jesus in the clouds when he brings to the world the fires of hell. "Brainwashed" is an understatement. She's been made into a completely new creature. I'd rather be a worm like her than any man or woman on earth. Psalm 22:6 "But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people."
By Jesus's own accord, they have way more than they need, and have given nearly nothing to the poor. Their chances of entering the Kingdom of God are extremely small.
Pac-Mania Feed my sheep. Christ is the food. Christ is the Word of God. Their words are the Word of God made manifest out of their mouths. Who are the needy and the poor? The people that are hand and hand together against them. They are those in prison; the prison of their sins. Who are the hungry and thirsty? Those who know not God. I tell you they're in heaven already, and heaven is already here. As much as they have much was required and look how they feed a whole nation! They do their deeds in fear for their own lives; they're doing their duty or will perish; the same duty you ought to be doing.
Jesus said clearly to give all your possessions to those who have none, being the ones on the street, the poor, hungry, and downtraught with little to no money, no home, no food. If one does not give most if not all of what they own to the poor, then they cannot get into heaven.
That is, if anybody would want to go to heaven in the first place.
Shirley’s so sassy. She’s be absolute gold on reality TV.
Shirley for Dancing With The Stars. I'd watch!
I feel bad for those kids... They have to live in Kansas
I feel bad for you. And your family if you have one.
Theese people know that the media and music industry is manipulating you. But... You are to ignorant to find that out.
ahhhhh, I laughed, but really kansas can't be THAT bad.
@@fallenslave6684 someone needs a hug
Kansas is awesome, if you’re a storm chaser. Speaking of which, I’m sure Topeka is due for a visit from a tornadic supercell.
@@aaronsilver-pell411 Overland Park shouldin't be too bad, it's not topeka.
The Westboro Baptist Church looks much more human to me after watching this and Louis Theroux's documentaries on them. I feel like I'm seeing a church of people who let fear run their lives. I remember watching an interview about one of the girls who had left the church and she said that when she was being filmed, all she could think about was the leaders in the church watching and hearing her say the right things. To me, that just goes to show that the younger members and even the older ones at times are just so aware that their fellow church-goers will see their interview thus they turn on this way of thinking that they show so often to the world.
It pains me to see a family that is so capable of being affectionate and relatively loving towards each other to a certain extent be filled with so much fear and anger towards the world. A lot of people want to spit in their faces, but I'd rather delve into their psyches and learn to understand what caused the founding members to start such a disgusting cult that brainwashes their members to let fear rule their lives. I wish these people could one day take a good look at themselves and realize the wrong they are committing and then quietly exit the public light.
With increased knowledge is increased sorrow. I know they would rather cry all the day long knowing what is true and good than to laugh in ignorance and not believing what they know. It is a terrible and heavy thing to know what God is demanding from you, which is your very life. God is their joy and their sorrow; the children of God have a burden: as much is given much is required, and as much is forgiven of them they must love that much more, which they haven't refrained from doing.
Michael Massengale Cerebral activity detected, confine yourself to quarters or you will be annihilated by Homeland Security Forces. This has been a public service announcement.
Well, the founder, Fred Phelps, was driven by an intense fear of abandonment. The odds are that he was also molested in some way by another man, and this created an equally intense loathing of gays. Religion is always characterised by the projection of the chthonic impulses that exist in believers, and it's possible that his reactions to this event ( if it occurred) were not entirely those of repulsion. Very disturbing to a hetero.
Whatever the circumstances may be behind the scenes I know that in the open he preached the right way. The end of all the other "christians" validity was when they stood equally yoked together with them that didn't believe.
It speaks of all that in prophesy of who belongs to god and who clearly does not.
The word is a sword. In this case of the wbc it clearly shown who was precious among the vile.
Nope... They know the truth. And they fear no human. Only God. If you dont fear God, then you dont know his wisdom.
i watch this whenever i need a good laugh
The singing gets me every time lol
***** x'''''DDD
Me too!
So laughing on someone will make you happy? That is sad :(
fallenSlave
If it’s bullshit, I’d think yes, you’d have to crazy to think this way😂
Has there been done any interviews/documentaries since Megan and Grace left? Zach (who left one year later) said his mother (Shirley) was completely heartbroken by the loss, especially of Megan. He said she cried all the time, and I would like someone to confront her with that, since she pickets funerals of dead children, and her children are not even dead, they have just left the church.
that means to her that she will be separated from her daughters for all eternity while they will burn in hell forever. she truly believes it. can't imagine what that must be like oo (I don't know why I even feel sorry for her given all the hurt she's bringing to people with her funeral picketing! maybe i've watched to many wbc documentaries; ..but I do feel really sorry for her :/)
Milussi Yep she can dish out hatred and rub salt into the wounds of grieving families at funerals, but she can’t take it when one of her precious kids leave. She completely falls apart. Shows you how self-centered she is and doesn’t take the feelings of other grieving families into consideration. She’s a pathetic BITCH
Megan’s TeD talk and Louis Theroux returns to the most hated family in America. Are the documentary’s you’re looking for
Surviving America s most hated family came out this summer. It's on dailymotion :)
Shirley would make a great drill sargent
Julie G she wouldn’t get much respect
Julie G she’d make a better corpse! 😬🤭
Fuck Reverend Fred Phelps.
And Revered Fred Phelps is a real psycho path and a real lunatic and a real delusional person.
And he is a very sick and a pathetic person. I am so glad that he is not on this earth anymore.
I'm gay and I just fucking love Shirley for some reason haha
She's hilarious!
***** I think what they preach is disgusting, but I have to admit that I feel the same way as you do. She really cracks me up!
+pavlova79 I think she's funny, because every word she says is ridiculous! XD
She’s sweet
Same. I want to give her the biggest hug for some reason.
@@joaofrancisco1714'Ridiculous' is a point of view.
this must be the worst place on earth to born for any children.
How much hate do you have in you?
@fallenSlave hahahahaha what are you on
Tell this to the children in growing up in the ghettos of South America, or the famine-struck villages in Africa. I'm not saying it's the best, but you're way exaggerating.
Fo-fo-forever Burn. Damn those insane people have good rythm.
Five of Shirley's kids are no longer in the church: Megan, Grace, Josh, Zach, and Noah.
Think Noah passed away now.
@@mattb6704 I believe Noah killed himself.
@@mattb6704Do you know what happened too him that's so sad. 😢
shirley got amazing voice, she should compete in X factor!
Now that Megan is out of the church she is engaged to be married. At least she said she was and showed her engagement ring in Lauren Drain's snapchat story last night.
I was so sad to hear about Noah's death. He seemed like a sweet, sensitive, genuinely kind kid. I'm glad he at least got to experience a few years of freedom.
How did he die?
And did they protest his funeral?
@@mattb6704 he committed suicide in September 2033, shortly after leaving the church. (Josh, Zach, Megan, Grace and Noah all left WBC)
I have to admit that "We'll Work Till Jesus Comes" is one of my favorite songs, and they it beautifully. And they really mean it too.
they can sing ill give them that
They Can..
I’m not even a Christian but that song at the end was beautiful! Good melody.
their "We'll Work Till Jesus Comes" actually goes hard ngl
Shirley may be out of her mind but she sure does have her kids in check. I have customers come in to my office and let their kids run around and scream and make a mess in my waiting room and the parents say nothing. I bet you anything Shirley would not allow her kids to do that. #Can'tCureCrazy
Yeah and 10 years later form your comment society is even worse. Might not like their message but they're more intelligent than 90% of this country.
I find the height of hypocrisy is when they shove up signs saying that "God Hates" this and God hates that and so on. The last I understood anything about God or about the divine was that God was pure unconditional love and that love was the force of light and of everything in creation and beyond. Something we mear mortals can not even comprehend. So quite amusing really -But we should forgive their foolish little hearts because when you forgive, you love. ..And when you love, Gods light shines down on you. I hope you're up there God.. Brownie points for me eh
Squuuaaaawwk!!!
You hope God is up there? What kind of weak minded faithless prayer is that?
Michael Ayden if he loves why is there hell
Kamilla Iqbal If judges were compassionate, why are there jails?
you know seeing this documentary shows me that shirley actually does love her children and it showed a sort of human/loving side of her. Too bad she doesn't show everyone this. Only those in her circle and deemed untainted by the world.
Those kids look miserable!
How and why
@@MCWalter126 Because they're in an insane abusive hateful cult is probably why and how.
@@casey2768 oh ok
Shirley is hilarious. 😂
You are hilarious. Hahahahaha
@@fallenslave6684 What Kind of channel name is your name? Does it have something to do with Black lives matter and if it does I just want to tell you I have nothing to do with Black People getting slaved? I did nothing to cause that. My Greeeat Grandfather might have but it does not mean that i am going to hell for what my greeeat Grandfathers did.
I love her!
@@chrisc3697 She is an okay women but that is not the women you should love you should love the lord your God Jesus Christ.
@@andrewchase6748 Who said i don't love Jesus Christ, I love Him with all my heart, not sure what you are saying,,,
When Shirley was reprimanding Luke, would her method of discipline be considered abusive? I don't think so since she didn't hit him and explained firmly, but gently that he should listen when she tells him not to do something.
The issue is this,Shirley Phelps speaks with authority,she has power behind her rhetoric.Unfortunately she tosses in a few distasteful comments.She could probably win many to Christ if she would cut out the filthy language!
The songs they are singing the lyrics are metal AF 😂😂
Crooked, chipped nails running spasticity down a metal wall maybe😂
18:00 Beautiful song. They are actually good singers as a group.
P.S. For those who are saying that this was filmed by the WBC themselves, I can assure you that it was not. The students who filmed to movie were present at the LA Film Festival and even took questions from the audience following the showing.
The thing that jumps out and somewhat startles me is that when they aren't in church or preaching they really look like a typical family...kids talking on their cell phones, mother scolding her kid for walking ahead, etc. Don't know what I expected...wide-eyed robotized zombies I guess. But they seem like typical kids, and pretty happy.
ritwingr because they are, duh
I feel sorry for them, they are totally missing the plot.. Jesus is LOVE.. we dont judge but are judged by God..the GREATEST commandment is to LOVE our lord God with all our hearts and love our neighbors like we love ourselves!!!the whole law hangs on these two commandments!!!
They're evil people👹👹. I'm happy it was passed they're now considered a hate group. They protest at funerals and are thankful for 9/11.. they extremely obsessed with the LGBTQ, and their sex life.
Bunch of weirdos and freaks except for the children of course. I feel so bad for them.
Few of their kids left the cult. Even the KKK called them radicals. This coming from the dam KKK.🤦♂️🤦🏽♀️
I love how they use song from a openly bisexual queen but then use it to preach 💕hate💕
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity...and I'm not sure about the universe." A Einstein.
one day I'm expecting to hear in the news that this was the biggest troll group ever and that none of it was real.
+Melissa Clark However, please don't hold your breathing apparatus while you're waiting for this. hihi
Melissa don't believe to much of what you hear in the news.
God is not a liar and God is very honest and he will always love us and will always protect us.
Shirley is such a queen
The only one I dislike is Steve Drain. He came in as a full consenting adult unlike the rest of the church. His heart started dark and full of hate.
And he’s power hungry and a misogynist
I actually found the "Forever Burn" song at the beginning actually quite catchy.
The lyrics to the songs are pretty good actually
Shirley is hilarious
Smiles on their faces as they tell people they will forever burn in hell.
I hurray have an altogether different idea of what it means to spread His word.
The thought of people burning in hell does not, should not, elicit joy in stable, well adjusted, compassionate, good people.
Period.
the cop song was kinda true tho, i’ll give em that.
This is so sad. I feel so bad for those kids that I want to cry but I am laughing to hard from the songs 😂
Hate is a petty and human emotion, God is a higher being and therefore does not posses it.
0:07 well, she ain’t lying here. But she is also the church. 🎉
their songs are kinda catchy even though the timing is kinda weird.
Also I thought the Bible instructs is to pray for our nations and those in authority over us,not call down curses on them! I wonder if attention seeking is an aspect behind the WBC motives?
Hopefully one day I'm my lifetime. Religion will be confined to the past. It is the main cause of world wide divide.
That's such an ignorant statement. 'Worldwide divide' is caused by Western nations, and their hypocrisy, theft and mass murder all around the world.
*****
he had not stated an ignorant comment, religion does devide the world, yes western nations may not help but religion is far bigger than the western worlds and causes a lot of problems and divides.
Well done Gary Inglis
With no religion wouldn't that mean it would be more troublesome?
I'm actually extremely interested in talking to these people. Especially about this video title. The Elect, as in the calvanist understanding of the Elect and Reprobate?
Sidereal Aura Calvinism? I at one time fell into the Arminian beliefs system but now I see election is in fact Biblical. This group is correct on many points. However their “preaching” isn’t done with Biblical standard. Being loving and gently admonishing those that are out of the way. Signing songs in mockery and using disgusting language reveals the self righteousness of these people. The true Righteousness that comes from God alone will humble men and women. These people are puffed up with spiritual pride. They don’t preach the gospel to those that they deem lost. They were commanded to preach the gospel. I’ve never heard these people preach the gospel of God. They’ve deceitfully handled the gospel and instead placed the law, the burden upon the people. They should have not broken the bruised reeds and quenched the smoking flax’s. They have undoubtedly most likely done this to sinners that have wanted to come to Christ for His grace.
I hate what these people are doing but I have to admit some their songs are catchy...
They pick existing songs and replace the lyrics, its not their songs
I totally agree with this lady.
Satan gave me bacon
There's a clip on YT of someone driving by a WBC protest and throwing a drink out, hitting one of the kids there. With their reputation, I would say leave the kids at home. Child endangerment.
So glad I'm an atheist.
derr :D Who says your life can't have a purpose without believing in a fairy tale?
You shouldn't be
Umm, I'm very spiritual and believe in a god, but I think it's ludicrous to assume that those who believe there definitively isn't a god don't have a purpose.
One can have plenty of purpose without spirituality.
FUN FACT! No all people are like this BTW
@derr :D As an atheist, my life is full of purpose. I enjoy far more purpose than I could ever have living in a celestial North Korea.
Sign me up for this place!
Westboro give Weird Al Yankovic a run for his money!
By favorite song is the one about Santa Claus sending people to Hell
What do u mean give him a run for his money?
@@MCWalter126their skills at parodying songs
It is so sad to see multiple generations of what I believe are deep down good people being torn apart from each other. Sad. You have one life and one family. They have missed out on so much love.
I love this woman beautiful eye's very attractive godly sister
Hey, there I am in the white shirt! At 1:19! =D
Well done for leaving but i wouldnt brag your in such a twisted video !!
too true =D
Teehee =D She is my older sister, and I just have to say... there is a line waiting for her when she leaves... and I do mean, when she leaves. =D I think it is just a matter of time.
=D
Zach Phelps-Roper just wanted to say im happy you a
have left but my question is why do thay hate catholics what have we done to them?
Have you read the Bible?
Did not Jesus say to treat thy neighbor as thyself? And ALL have fallen short of the mark that Jesus set?
In my humble opinion, it is not for us to judge...that should be left to the Father. What Christians are commanded to do is to love
Love first, and then let God, in His insurmountable wisdom, do the rest.
This is easily one of the best & saddest mini-docs about WBC that I've seen. I like how the filmer is just... there, not involved or commenting, just showing. That's EXACTLY what I wanted & needed for my book research. Thank you so much for posting this. I'd love to see some of the extra videos that didn't make the final cut.
Very well done & touching. :-)
Exactly what a real documentary should be. I hate narrators they're just talking to get their credit.
It’s a little different than Louis Theroux’s documentary. You see them being a little more normal, on the school run etc. A little less sensationalist.
Thanks for coming out to see the film at LAFF and for the kind words!
HOW DARE YOU USE OZZY SONGS......oooooo shiny
That moment with Shirley and her son was actually touching in a twisted way lol
they should have these kids taken away from them
***** Some do, for most the brainwashing never wears off.
so another one Mrs Phelps Ropers children has left , bringing the total to 4 kids who now reject there parents cult , the state needs to remove all other under age kids from this cult and place them with there family who have left . slowly the rot sets in and sooner or later the whole repulsive mess will fall .
Kafir istani yes Zacharias left i have him as a friend on facebook
Notice how bored to death those kids look at 10:51? You don't have to be a mind-reader to know what they're really thinking.The body language says it all.
Knowing now that Grace and Megan have left the church in 2014, i coukd totally see it from this interview. Grace just sat there and looked so sad and like she was suppressing her emotions. so happy their out now
Which one is Grace?
2011 actually
John 3:16
Says So God so the world that he gave his begotten son Whom ever Believeth in him shell not perish but have eternal life.
Gods love is unending
Westboro Baptist Church
"Love Everyone" It's not for you people to decide who is saved or not
you're supposed to stand on your knees. How dare you sit and then you criticize other churches for being away from the lord. you have knees stand on your knees. Don't sit. God deserves better.
They're musical
I've been watching a lot of documentaries about them, what's happening to me, I'm starting to genuily like them, not their ideology but them as people. Them who picket funerals and are the most homophobic you could be. It's like in those documentaries you can see beyond that and you get where they're coming from, sort of. I like their songs and I sing along "oh wicked land of sodomites" with them everytime it pops out in a documentary. Cause I find it so funny. I'm not religious and I'm a lesbian. wtf lol
They really like the word “clod”.
They are actually quite nice. I like them.
Good movie.
Clogged Drain Fat chance. She repented.
Odd you'd say "Fat Chance". God Hates Gluttons. See you in hell obese Shirley.
Can you imagine being drunk enough to fuck Shirley? Running your hands through all that greasy matted hair, and we're not just talking about the hair on her head? Poor bastard Sam (Samba).
Remember kids, it's all in the timing. Do your crime, repent, THEN get hit by the bus.
Clogged Drain clearly you have imagined!
Some catchy songs there im sure some record labels be keen to sign them up.
Keep preaching the truth Westboro!
Tiny777 Pls teel me you´re joking?
Matthew 7:1-5
Judging Others
"7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."
This is a direct quote from the bible, it might not be very important to you, seeing as you are still judging others rather than getting a hold of your life and learn to stop telling people that they're going to hell so that you aren't going to have to join them. Your children seem so stressed, by the way, if they ever show any signs of depression, please, please take them the therapy. I would hate to see this dictate lifestyle destroy a child's mental state. Protect your children with your lives, school will be a dangerous place for them, don't let anything hurt them.I genuinely believe that you can improve yourselves.
WBC rules!
Dude that’s so edgy and funny
I watched this for the second night in a row and I can't help but think of this as a horror movie.
I have an extreme distaste for Christianity. This is one of the reasons why.
The women are covering their hair because of Corinthians but if they understood they would cover all the time
11:10 Wow, they're eating okra. It's got potassium, vitamin B, vitamin C, folic acid, and calcium. It's low in calories and has a high dietary fiber content. Okra has been suggested to help manage blood sugar in cases of type 1, type 2, and gestational diabetes. At least they're eating good food. Now they need to work on making their minds and beliefs better, and not be so negative and hateful. That's gotta eat at you from inside out....
I can’t help but feel a sense of depression from the members of this cult.
0:48 I’m low-key impressed at how they switched Lady Gaga ft Beyoncé - Telephone into ‘ a hell where we’ll forever burn’ 👏🏼
8:43 was uncalled for.. I feel attacked 🤣
They used to have loads of parodies of songs sone even have music videos lol
I’m so glad Megan left she was like such a sweet person so glad she got rid of her ties with this disgusting church
will admit. they have the best parodies on music 😂
Hope to be seeing more. This is one of the best documentaries I have seen in a long time
That song about eating your baby is really quite strange.
Why do the rub each others backs? Girl on Girl? Seems “gay” to me
These people are a great source of comedy for me. They are so insane it cracks me up so much.
This video makes me wanna sing
Margaret White (Carrie's mom) would be the perfect spokesperson for this cult!
I enjoy the creativity of the songs.
They should be able to practice what they want but they shouldnt be able to shove it down peoples throat
With all the sins mentioned in the Bible, why do they place the focus on Homosexuality? They make it seem like All of our nations "punishments" are a result of this one sin, when Jesus hammers on so many other sins in his teaching. Theyre so far off on their doctrine.... I'm curious their take on the situation on John 8, when the adulterous women was thrown at Jesus feet. The Pharisees expected Jesus to condemn her, But his reply, "he who is without sin, throw the first stone". He didn't stand their with a picket sign and call her names. He bent down and comforted her and she left changed.
All the wages of sin is death. That's what the westboro baptist church is doing; warning you. This is the same warning Jesus gave when he said, "Go and sin no more or it will be worse for you." John 5:14. He said the same thing to the prostitute, sin no more. God is the one that punishes you for sinning, not some evil monster. God is a god of judgment and is all just in throwing people to hell because he at every turn offered mercy to them. The westboro bapist church, jesus, and all his prophets are the mercy, which is the warning to sin no more.
This was their condemnation, from the prostitute to her hypocritical judges:
John 3:19
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Michael Massengale
The WBC teaches and believes that everything that has ever happened or ever will happen is pre-ordained by God. It doesn't matter what sort of life you live-if God decided aeons ago to burn you for eternity, then nothing will change his mind. If he decided aeons ago to graciously permit you to enter heaven and grovel to him for eternity, then it's in the bag for you. hence, it's completely pointless warning anyone of any supposed fate, when only God knows what that fate will be.
coralarch true. It is pointless. As it is written with futility is the word of god preached. We are not trying to make you change or believe. God controls that and will either convict your heart or harden it. However it is by the futile preaching that those who are his find their way. There was needs be that christ suffered. Now there is also need that we should suffer too. So that the sheep will recognize the father when you bare your cross.
Isaiah 30 speaks to you in this regard.
Michael Massengale
Sheep exist to be fleeced All organised religion is a fraud and a sham.
God bless you shirly and family. and all members of westboro church
+sultan makbali amen brother / sister.
I remember when I used to be little and go to a orthodox church, when I was bored I did draw relugiius things BUT it wasn't hateful. I drew churches with smiling families leaving. I drew happy celebrations during christmas. I drew heaven. I drew the sun with Christ's cross and the sun shone over beautiful forests and gardens. NOT hateful insults that have NOTHING to do with Jesus Christ
I have changed, i am not religiius anymore, but i rember going to church and being overjoyed at being nice to everyone, about how god is all about love, mercy and selfleshness. This 'church' whuch isn't a church it's a cult.. its the exact opposite of what I felt as a child a church is
Thanks for the support and for trying to quell that rumor! We're open to questions here on youtube as well!
I dont think there is any explaination for the westboro baptist church. They are the bermuda triangle of humanity. Where did it go?
I don’t know what’s worse: their message or their singing.
Yes bitxh, that lady gaga cover issa bop
Those children really love their mother Shirley.
She’s calling others hypocrites?