I live in Australia, am retired and have a 13 kW rooftop solar system. I charge my Tesla from a normal 10 amp socket although I may get a 15 amp socket fitted. Apart from $20 of charging at a fast charger when I first got the Tesla to ensure I could get to where I live, all the electricity to charge the Tesla has come from my solar system. I have just passed 5,000 kms. I'll probably drive 20,000 kms this year. To drive this distance in my old ICE vehicle at present petrol prices would cost about $3,800. SOLAR + EV = MASSIVE SAVINGS!
That's great that you use your roof top solar to charge the Telsa. I think you could have done better for the environment and your pocket by continuing to use your "old ICE". I'm not sure, but I think the energy required to build a new car is approximately 7 years worth of fuel. I don't know if this is accurate, but it stands to reason that it takes energy to make a new car - regardless of whether its an ICE or EV, and when you think of the mining, smelting, forming, assembly of all that plastic and metal. I'll post an article from the Guardian about this in the next comment.
Good work on the achievements. - Did you mention the up front cost (or the monthly payments) for the Solar system and EV, over the 3 months you have owned your latest mode of transport. (a Small conventional car achieving 5L/100km ~ $10 / 100km for fuel so $2k for the year, IF you Need a car consuming 10L/100km, yes it is up to $4k - something - roomier than a typical Aussie Tesla (3/Y) - like a2023 Camry hybrid "claims" 4.3L/100km (U95 - ~2.09/L in Sydney at the moment, full year ~$1672 for the 20k km, with upfront Max price of $56k - top of the range, vs an equivalent tesla at $63-72k (Model 3 RWD and LR)) (I appreciate the savings, I too have a solar system (not an EV) - as the economics aren't stacking up for me, but "free" AC is nice - even if it isn't really free.)
@@MiniLuv-1984That may be based on an early study that did not take everything into account. Latest i have seen is if you buy a new EV vs. a comparable ICE vehicle, you have to drive 15,000 miles to compensate for the additional embodied energy costs in the batteries. As an example you buy a Camry and I buy a Tesla model 3. After we both hit 15k miles my model 3 is better for the environment. Assuming the ICE vehicle is sold on to someone who uses it, it’s not relevant. Also important to understand that most of the increased embodied energy has to do with heating batteries in ovens to evaporate solvents. The new 4680 battery from Tesla uses a dry application process that eliminates the solvents required to make the electrode. This will result in that number coming down further.
@@MiniLuv-1984 You perhaps need to remember the 80/20 rule and this applies very much to internal combustion engines. 80% of transport pollution is created 20% of the older vehicles. This isn't simply passenger vehicles but also and in some ways worse the commercial fleet. Keeping ICE forever isn't an option from an environmental perspective. Once they reach the break even point they need to go in to the recycling stream and stop emitting carbon pollution.
@@michaelsmithers4900 As my good friend John Cadogan often says, "we are not going to get ourselves out of the Climate Warming problem with more consumerism".
In the US, there is a massive anti-EV campaign in progress. There are countless stories about how Americans don't want EV's, the tech doesn't work, the dealerships hate them, etc. Thanks Robert for spreading the news about the positives and benefits of EV's.
unfortunately the UK is a similar story, in most of the "press". every car fire is caused by an EV apparently, the batteries are ruined after a handful of years and you will be queuing for hrs when you need to charge (if you believe the daily express/the sun/ the mail etc). that said what is an issue in the uk and i am not sure it will change any time soon is the cost of public charging... forgetting tesla charging places for a second, 70-80p a kwh is more than even the most expensive service station diesel. its fine for me and those who can charge at home and just use public once in while, but those relying on public charging without home or work charging (which in the uk is a lot of people) its just too expensive imo. (PS a whole ship full of electric cars............ and it didnt spontaneously combust... who would have thought it? ;) )
Great to hear about the progress on EVs and charging in Australia. Quick question: Any chance of getting a quick recap video of the upcoming Everything Electric Australia show for all of us who won’t be able to make it down under? (I know that all of you are quite busy that weekend, but a quick walk-about with some commentary would be greatly appreciated) Cheers, from a Canadian LEAF owner 😊
Hi Robert, look forward to seeing you in Sydney this weekend. We live in Newcastle so home charging is the order of the day, a trip to Sydney and back on a charge is no problem in the Model 3. Please bring Chau Le back on, I would really like to find out more about Octopus energy and if their business model will be extended to Australia. Regards Russell
Most of Australian new home should have Solar with battery back up. The governments should insist that all new homes have this and to help push it make in compulsory in order to get the First home owner grants.
V2G EV with selfplug-in features and rooftop solar PV could mean offgrid living in the suburbs. Most vehicles drive building to building and short distances. So a simple wall plug at bumper height and like a home robotic vacuum cleaner the EV can remain grid connected 23hrs every day.
It is amazing how technology is allowed to be used in Australia to join up different technology and make it easy to progress. Whereas the UK has too much red tape and seems to do it's best to stay in the past. Countries and Governments need to embrace this new technology and accept that how we have always done things, is now not necessarily the best method. If the UK made electricity price cheaper by moving tariffs from electric to the gas. We should stop calculating the price of electricity from oil prices as for the past 15 months, zero carbon generation has been more than fossil fuel generation. Solar and wind technology will continue to grow and be added so this trend will grow to replace fossil fuels. We then need huge storage batteries to help alleviate spikes.
There doesn’t seem to be a real understanding amongst those responsible for planning EV infrastructure here in Australia that there are two basic potential customers who have different objectives. There are those who are unable to charge at home for any number of reasons: they need chargers local to home which can be used for say weekly charging for an hour or two and those on road trips who need to have confidence that fast charging en route can be available. During the Christmas period I had to travel from Tea Gardens to Manly and back in my Tesla: I’d heard that the Heatherbrae site was heavily used but there were marshalls there (thank you Tesla) and the plan was to pick up a quickie there on the way down so as to be able to do without charging coming home. As it happens there WERE marshals there who advised long waits so we just opted out to plan b and went on to Tuggerah where we picked up the charge and continued. It shows two things: that having a reasonably long range takes away any drama and that knowing Tesla looks after their charging sites so that you can be 99.9% sure of them does the same thing.
I purchased a Toyota Yaris Cross AWD Hybrid late last year because I don't have off street parking and my round trip to work several days a week is 100km and I also run bird watching tours in outback NSW. When the charging network is right and the value for money is reflected in the BEVs I'll make the eagerly awaited leap.
My wife's Model Y was supposed to be delivered before Christmas. Then we got a notice that it would be before January 14. Then the stink bug ship got sent back. Then delivery blew out to before Feb 22 now it has blown out again to before March 7. She sold her car in mid January. The result. I am now the chauffeur of a very lovely but also very vocally assertive back seat driver. 😒🤐
Great interview of someone with huge understanding and vision ! Thank you. (please Robert can you try to stop shaking your camera at almost every video 😅)
I would like to see Origins economic modelling on accessing home and vehicle batteries vs just buying their own grid size batteries. Per kwh of storage a Tesla mega pack is about 1/3rd of the cost of a residential power wall.
I’m in Alberta, Canada. We hear lots about why our network can’t deal with more renewable supply or more EV demand. On the other hand, I hear all of these great solutions elsewhere & it really makes me wonder what is so unique about us that makes it impossible here. I assume it’s politics or vested interests avoiding change, but maybe I’m being unfair/disingenuous? I’d love a discussion involving knowledgeable people from different parts of the world to help me see what makes the grid work in some places and not in others.
You are being hit with FUD from those whose income is from mining oil . How much does Alberta, Canada rely on income from mining fossil fuels? I am a kiwi but even i know your region is a fossil fuel supplier .
@@martinsmallwood9605 I don’t know the numbers but as context: all of the provincial pandemic costs for support, lost taxes, increased healthcare, etc were repaid to the province what felt like overnight when the oil price went up and caused the royalties to shoot up. Oil makes Alberta a rich province with many well paying jobs. Change will be much harder when there’s a lot of obvious stuff lost but when the “world on fire” message isn’t tipping the scales enough in the majority of Albertans experience. Even if we don’t like that, you can’t just dismiss it if you want to influence people. It’s all a bit depressing. All I can do is drive my ev and show that little changes like that are normal and easy.
Origin Energy. Two major parts to the business. Gas production and distribution and electricity distribution. The electricity also includes coal fired power stations. Also do coal seam gas and as mentioned in another post sold off the fracking division in 2022 after negative publicity. So a major fossil fuel producer and not a totally clean electric company.
If Tony Seba is right, and he has been so far, the problem for energy companies that have transitioned to all renewables will be too much power. They will be giving it away for free to try and get rid of it. So play this out in your mind as energy grids become 100% renewables with more and more distributed power generation through customer solar installs. What will the problems actually be? In my mind the problem will be how and on what to use too much power. What industries can be run completely on free extra energy? All your mining? All your stores and shopping malls? How about mineral refineries, steel foundries? All your transportation?
Origin Energy is already giving away excess renewable for free, to EV owners who can charge their cars between 10am and 3pm each day. Google the EV360 plan from Origin. But I think it’s been oversubscribed and is not open to new applicants.
Loved the Chau Le interview, and all the information about the benefits of new EV's. I'm wondering are you soon going to tell us about the feasibility of converting the 'petrol monsters' into 'EV darlings - I think you did something about this - some time ago - would love to hear how this is going nowadays - seems to fit the slogan: RENEW, REUSE, RECYCLE. Greetings from Ireland.
I'm the same but at least we're shaving a little bit off everything we're using. All those devices on standby with little LEDs cause "phantom drain" of batteries and phantom element on our electricity bills. I hope you got your panels when the feed-in tariff was still available. I'm paid for generating and then I use it myself so I benefit twice. I love my panels and actively monitoring my usage so I don't send it back to the grid for which I'm paid a paltry amount (6p/kWh).
Yes, recently sold off most of it but will still be making money from fracking the Betaloo. Definitely an untrustworthy, greedy company, chasing the bottom line.
@@1knightinbangkok946 Does that then excuse individuals to also be untrustworthy, greedy and chasing the bottom line? This line of reasoning is leading us down a nasty, nasty path.
Head of CORPORATE strategy... For one of Australia's largest energy companies... With Australia's history of Coal Lobbying & the energy sector controlling politics... 🤔hmm
I enjoyed my four months in Australia after working in West Java for a few years, but never made it to Brisbane. Mind, there is a local Brisbane, but it rhymes with "this train".
These things eat tyres from what i here and guess what ....How Much Oil Does it Take to Make 1 Tire? We need about five gallons of oil to produce the synthetic rubbers required for a single tire. The whole tire manufacturing process that follows requires two additional gallons of oil. The manufacturing process uses it to fuel the energy required to prepare the materials and assemble the whole tire. Bigger ones such as truck tires require, even more, averaging 22 gallons of oil. The tire industry often uses gasoline, the production of which also requires oil. For every barrel of oil (42 gallons), they can produce about 19 gallons of gasoline.
If ev cars are so good why did hertz car rental cancelled 100000 tesla order plus cancelled 65000 polestar and off load 20000 tesla hertz had also sixt car renal have cancelled a huge order . The cost of purchasing is very high and after a year to 18 months they are depreciation is huge leaving customers in negative equity. Biggest sales in uk are because of huge tax deduction through work schemes. Public chargers in uk are very expensive in uk
Podcast tech comment and money saving tip for podcasters: Stick with that clip-on lavalier style mic! Sound was good. Yes a big Shure SM7B is the cliche expensive "professional" mic but nearly every time they are used by podcasters people are right on top of them and the popping and blowing that you hear (especially listening with headphones or decent buds) is very annoying! (Either that or they are on a desk mount where every time the the desk is tapped it sounds through the mic.) And finally, a big studio mic simply gets in the way visually if the podcast is going out on video as well as just sound. Podcasters could save themselves a few hundred £ or $ and just use a clip on. Keep professional studio mics for the studio IMHO ... where they can be used correctly positioned and with appropriate mounts and pop shields if necessary.
Thanks for an excellent video, Robert and Chau. Chau Le impressed me as an energy company manager. I will have a look at this company. I just found out they leased EVs. We are in SA.
i am with origin energy for my electricity. they are buying electricity from me a 0.07c a kW and selling it back to me for 0.35c a kW and they are also charging me 0.91c a day for the privilege. Do you think that is fair?
Interseting that if they have been working on this for so long it hasn't come to household consumers yet. has given a chance for others like Amber Energy to get a foot hold.
You're kidding yourself. Overseas manufacturers have a 2 year backlog of vehicles they can't sell because they are overpriced. Cars sold are depreciating 50% in the first year alone. Insurance is through the roof because even a minor accident can write off the car out of fear the battery is damaged. Range anxiety. Charge anxiety. Damaged charging equipment. Cold temp. Hot temps. The list of issues is endless. Seriously, we're 10 years from being practical. Even then 40% of the world doesn't have the electricity supply to move across so a large part of the world will still be on ICE vehicles
@@thomasbentley7747 where they drive how far? In Europe it's short distances so no worries but go to Asia, Canada, America, Australia, etc where the distances are much greater and it's a completely different story
A propos your 8.2 KW hrs winter V 65 Kw hrs summer solar generation, when you are back in the UK maybe you might find time to check up with O Wind / O innovations in the UK and see how they are getting on with their Urban wind turbine solution. Have really been hoping these guys will crack this issue and make small but affordable wind energy for the urban market, would just love to know how they are getting on.
Wind is an under-utilised energy source here in the UK. The main downside for residential use is noise. They are bloody noisy. There are many smaller such generators available for campers and the consensus is "too noisy" except for the die-hard fans. (fans. Geddit? I'll get my coat)
Across the Tasman in Aotearoa New Zealand, I was wondering when Fully Charged might be running an Everything Electric show in this country. There's a lot of interest in EVs, solar energy, and more here - despite a new National-led government that wants to make it harder to run an EV. (Our primary car for the past five years has been a 2014 Smart ForTwo ED, it's a tremendous urban car that I highly recommend [sorry Jack…]).
I proposed that Lismore could have been off-grid. That was what I was offering. We could produce electricity for 26,829,264kw/day at $0.10/kw for $965,853,504 a year.
Sorry, but the "Milk Float" era is starting to die. Volvo have just relinguished their interest in Polestar as it was causing Volvo shares to drop. Ford and GM have cut EV production as dealer forecourts are full of unsold EV's. VW sales in China (their largest market) has slumped. The depreciation is massive.
Lol err no! The problem is traditional vehicle manifacturers are making cars no one wants. Depresiation is about the same as with fossil cars. Hyundi / Kia are still selling as are Tesla and all the Chinese vehicle.builders.
Tipping point lol we’re way off the tipping point. Funny the EV’s will be left with something that’s worthless and electric prices increase. You think you will always get cheap night rates, erm no, I give it another 18 months maximum. VED is being added onto EV’s next year, the government can’t keep subsidising EV infrastructure, funny. Most people are used to still having some value in a 8 yr old car or one with 100k miles. But EV’s aren’t worth a penny after the warranty runs out. Bored of hearing all this bull. Funny never needed iCE cars to be promoted, now this is all Chanel’s like this do. Some guy who preaches everyone’s gotta go EV, there so clean compared to ICE they ain’t the manufacture of batteries is poisoning the world. This guys an idiot. I’m not anti EV I’ve got one for the Mrs, M3 Tesla, should last for another 4 years and then sell it, for me it’s a joke, 2.5 years it would be out of warranty so the depreciation would wipe out the money saved on fuel.
Currently insurance companies and repair engineers are still catching up with the rate of EV adoption so insurance can currently be higher and repair costs higher. That's because, for example, Tesla-qualified engineers command double the hourly rate of an ICE engineer as there aren't so many of them. You may see people ranting about Tesla gigacasts rendering Teslas "unrepairable" and having to be written off. To counter this FUD Tesla have made gigacasts available to to service sector at cost price to help with the situation. They are replaceable but even modern ICE cars, if involved in a crash that compromises the chassis, will be written off. It's not specifically a Tesla or EV thing. Offsetting higher repair costs are much lower maintenance costs. EVs need no annual maintenance services. No oil change, no coolant fluids, very little brake disk replacement (regen braking replaces most use of brakes, relegating them essentially to "emergency brakes" only). Maintenance consists basically of washer fluid, tyre pressures and checking the wipers 🙂 If you don't roadtrip regularly and commute less than, say, 250 miles per day then you should never need to visit a charger (equivalent to visiting a gas station) as you charge at home and set off every morning with a full "tank" in a car that's pre-warmed and defrosted and ready to go. And that costs, typically less than 1/4 of ICE fuel prices.
@@garyrooksby I drive a leaf and thinking of getting a Tesla , I thought I would find one and use the reg to get a quote ( model 3 long range AWD ). The leaf is £320 and the Tesla quote was £360 . I’m 57 years old .
@@garyrooksbynot quite rught sorry. 1/. Point EV's are an order of magnitude more reliable than fossil.cars. 2/. All insurance has gone up in price dramatically. One or two companies have increased the price on EV insurance out of 100's who have not.
@@garyrooksby Tesla and Hyundai also don't sell parts at reasonable prices, pushing up repair costs. In the case of Tesla: they make a lot of their money selling fleet credits to other automakers. So supporting their existing customers with replacement parts is not a priority for them.
This was the first episode in a long time that I had to stop after 12 minutes. Sorry, but hearing “aaaammm” in every. Single. Sentence. Was far too annoying for me. Like nails on a chalkboard. It’s a shame because it seems like this lady has a lot of good information to share. Still have it a thumbs up Robert.
but publc chargers cost twice as petrol so not worth getting electric car, also octipus energy only allows 5 hours of cheap chagring from home over 5 hrs you get charged 3 times more and bigger battery cars require more than 12 hrs to charge at home
Hope you invited Toyota so they can stop living in denial and see that there is nothing that will stop the EV revolution , and I think you would have noticed that ,Aussies love their Toyotas , it's time for change Australia !!!
@@Robert-cu9bmBecause they know they missed the train clown , ICE is finished , just like the steam engine before it but then luddites can't grasp reality !!!
@@petergorton9848Have you tried buying an EV here ??? go and see if you can get one with in a year , of ordering , you'd be dam lucky , BTW I have never owned a Toyota , I've worked on them i've driven them , but to me they are nothing but gutless pieces of crap !!!
Origin are a significant retail Electricity and Gas provider, it appears they were totally remiss in not going all out on high capacity PUBLIC charging - across the east coast. (Tesla Superchargers are also few and far between - (even up and down the east coast) - outside of Sydney. ie the whole Newcastle area only has a single location to Supercharge - NB, Sydney with over 5Million people only has 6 Supercharging locations - 4-12 charge points - sure that are hotels and carparks with destination chargers - if you are stopping at the "destination" for a few hours, that helps the first 1 or 2 (or so) arrivals).. - concentrating on charging at the fleet headquarters and offices, does not sort out the issues people (staff included) face on inter city trips. - Sure SLOW charging - Level 2 or ?? 2 - Can be done anywhere. But on a trip - the Necessity to stop for that additional break for 30-45 minutes - factor in that economic impost. - FBT (Fringe benefit Tax) and LCT (Luxury car tax - which is a totally outdated and unnecessary tax) - IS a Government Subsidy - as is a total lack of tax on electricity used solely for transport purposes, First Generation EV adopters are mostly affluent early adopters or the occasional starving vegan cyclist, those most easily able to afford the impost of "being cool". .... ~45 minutes in - the "Personal Anecdote" ..... Who is paying $1000 for a SERVICE for a Petrol car (Or then they are also making payments on a relatively new "Prestige" (Merc/BMW/AUDI) ), yes an OLD / high mileage ICE car needing a new clutch (once -or twice, or other high value occasional item), but the exaggeration seems intense - or comedic... (The metric with Old vs New cars: buy a New car make bigger payments (or pay more upfront), buy an old car make bigger value repairs.. Cheaper registration etc, for EVs is a SUBSIDY - there is no merit for the general public in funding this consumption (for those able to afford) - once critical mass is achieved and the poorer people CAN get on board, the subsidies go away, hopefully the used vehicles - ex fleet, are ridiculously cheap moving forward.... (I too have an ICE vehicle to take - Camping, adventuring, hauling trash, picking up garden supplies - having an EV would be as an ADDITIONAL CAR, the cost of Insurances alone + monthly payments - (or monthly repayment of the savings loss), would make it non economical, despite getting free power from the sun.) ho humm--- PS, I have no "envy" and could go out tomorrow and buy any brand new EV with cash at hand, the only reason, would do so is because of the performance (acceleration) advantage - but then my license would probably evaporate on the drive home (jk).
I think it's a bit unfair ranting about the lack of an infrastructure across an entire continent (or the bit of the continent you care about) to a single private company. Maybe campaign to your local government or, as you're so replete with finances, set one up yourself. You'll see how logistically difficult and mind-numbingly expensive it is to do. Give them some time! As for the EV incentives having "no merit for the general public" please consider the impact on local air quality. Avoiding tailpipe emissions and the healthcare costs of their impact on children and the elderly. That's ignoring climate change impacts, whether you believe in them or not.
Warning to your guest....car manufacturers will stop covering V2G cars under battery warranties. This will end customer willingness to participate. So fully developing V2G may be a waste of money. I would recommend you look into offering an insurance policy that you can offer to your V2G customers that would cover car/battery replacement if premature degradation should occur out of warranty. Until the money paid, or saved, by a utility to V2G customers roughly equals what it will cost to buy a new EV over time, then V2G may not be a good deal. Batteries can only do so many cycles of charge discharge without degradation. If you are part of a V2G grid and there are lots of times that energy is pulled from your car then the batteries will suffer over time and you may need a new car prematurely. This may be solved in the near future by batteries that can cycle so many times without degradation that they will not be harmed by V2G.... but today's batteries in existing cars are not there yet. Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries may last double the number of cycles but this still needs to be increased if V2G is widely used. Else the reimbursement needs to cover the purchase of a new vehicle over time. No wonder energy companies think V2G is the "Holy Grail".... they don't have to pay for the battery nor the device to connect you to the grid, nor maintenance, nor a new vehicle after they degrade your battery. Cha Ching in their pockets! If the utility has to pay you enough to replace that battery, if damaged or severely degraded, then they would come out cheaper having their own battery farms.... and therefore would not have to offer or support V2G.
I don't think V2G will get much adoption if the "grid" takes more than about 20% of the battery capacity during the peak demand time. 20% of even a 40kWh battery (8kWh) adds up over millions of vehicles. Such a shallow discharge may actually *improve* the longevity of the batteries. I have heard that Lead acid batteries last longer in standby applications if you discharge them for 30 minute to a hour once per month or so.
@@jamesphillips2285 Hmmm.... good possibility there. I like the way you think and you very well could be right. If there were enough participants in V2G then the load on any one car should be minimal. However as soon as the grid pull stops, later your car will charge up again. Whether these smaller pulls, then charging again, also can cause more degradation I don't know. Perhaps, perhaps not.
Charging infrastructure in Australia is hopeless. EVs just do not stack up in Australia. Sure ,charge at home . I think less than half of the population would be able to do that. My mate just bought a $50,000 MG EV. He charges at home off his solar array .It’s the only way they are practical. Home to work 3km . Home to Dan Murphy’s 2 km. Home to Woolies 3km. Forget road trips, that’s what the $5000 Commodore is for.
Facts. Cars and light trucks produce 8% of Australia’s CO2 emissions. Australia produces under 2% of the worlds CO2 emissions in total. There is a huge push to electrify the Australian fleet, where we are a country the size of America with a population twice That of Papua New Guinea . Power generation is derived 50% coal, 20% gas, 30% hydro, solar,wind. Until they get rid of coal, and put in charging infrastructure that costs less than petrol, they can forget it. Most people cannot charge at home off there own solar array and battery. The other downside of EV ownership are expensive purchase price(including government incentives) , terrible resale values, battery degradation, range anxiety, risk of thermal runaway, insurance costs, cost of servicing and repairs. When owning an EV has more benefits than negatives, I’m in. I think Hydrogen will end up being the long term answer.
All those who wanted one got one .... And some have massive debt..as the price has dropped. .. now there is a trickle of sales due to green corporate, government ....
You don't speak for me. Be syntactically correct and exercise your perfectly acceptable right to say "*I* don't want electric cars". I, myself, certainly do but I won't try to convince you. You've made up your mind and speak for yourself.
@@aperitifs , erm... The Tesla Model Y is the best selling vehicle of any kind in the World. That's not a "trickle". EV sales YoY up by millions. Tesla alone sold 1.8 million in 2023 (up from 1.32 million in 2022). Facts don't care about opinions.
Lol sorry but you are absultly NOT representative of the "public" and clearly have never driven one. When you do.. perhaps the 2nd time you drive one, you will get "it".
I live in Australia, am retired and have a 13 kW rooftop solar system. I charge my Tesla from a normal 10 amp socket although I may get a 15 amp socket fitted. Apart from $20 of charging at a fast charger when I first got the Tesla to ensure I could get to where I live, all the electricity to charge the Tesla has come from my solar system. I have just passed 5,000 kms. I'll probably drive 20,000 kms this year. To drive this distance in my old ICE vehicle at present petrol prices would cost about $3,800. SOLAR + EV = MASSIVE SAVINGS!
That's great that you use your roof top solar to charge the Telsa.
I think you could have done better for the environment and your pocket by continuing to use your "old ICE". I'm not sure, but I think the energy required to build a new car is approximately 7 years worth of fuel. I don't know if this is accurate, but it stands to reason that it takes energy to make a new car - regardless of whether its an ICE or EV, and when you think of the mining, smelting, forming, assembly of all that plastic and metal. I'll post an article from the Guardian about this in the next comment.
Good work on the achievements.
- Did you mention the up front cost (or the monthly payments) for the Solar system and EV, over the 3 months you have owned your latest mode of transport.
(a Small conventional car achieving 5L/100km ~ $10 / 100km for fuel so $2k for the year, IF you Need a car consuming 10L/100km, yes it is up to $4k - something - roomier than a typical Aussie Tesla (3/Y) - like a2023 Camry hybrid "claims" 4.3L/100km (U95 - ~2.09/L in Sydney at the moment, full year ~$1672 for the 20k km, with upfront Max price of $56k - top of the range, vs an equivalent tesla at $63-72k (Model 3 RWD and LR))
(I appreciate the savings, I too have a solar system (not an EV) - as the economics aren't stacking up for me, but "free" AC is nice - even if it isn't really free.)
@@MiniLuv-1984That may be based on an early study that did not take everything into account. Latest i have seen is if you buy a new EV vs. a comparable ICE vehicle, you have to drive 15,000 miles to compensate for the additional embodied energy costs in the batteries.
As an example you buy a Camry and I buy a Tesla model 3. After we both hit 15k miles my model 3 is better for the environment.
Assuming the ICE vehicle is sold on to someone who uses it, it’s not relevant.
Also important to understand that most of the increased embodied energy has to do with heating batteries in ovens to evaporate solvents. The new 4680 battery from Tesla uses a dry application process that eliminates the solvents required to make the electrode. This will result in that number coming down further.
@@MiniLuv-1984 You perhaps need to remember the 80/20 rule and this applies very much to internal combustion engines. 80% of transport pollution is created 20% of the older vehicles. This isn't simply passenger vehicles but also and in some ways worse the commercial fleet. Keeping ICE forever isn't an option from an environmental perspective. Once they reach the break even point they need to go in to the recycling stream and stop emitting carbon pollution.
@@michaelsmithers4900 As my good friend John Cadogan often says, "we are not going to get ourselves out of the Climate Warming problem with more consumerism".
In the US, there is a massive anti-EV campaign in progress. There are countless stories about how Americans don't want EV's, the tech doesn't work, the dealerships hate them, etc. Thanks Robert for spreading the news about the positives and benefits of EV's.
Yup, the rental companies are bailing as well. Just in the state tho I imagine.
unfortunately the UK is a similar story, in most of the "press". every car fire is caused by an EV apparently, the batteries are ruined after a handful of years and you will be queuing for hrs when you need to charge (if you believe the daily express/the sun/ the mail etc). that said what is an issue in the uk and i am not sure it will change any time soon is the cost of public charging... forgetting tesla charging places for a second, 70-80p a kwh is more than even the most expensive service station diesel. its fine for me and those who can charge at home and just use public once in while, but those relying on public charging without home or work charging (which in the uk is a lot of people) its just too expensive imo. (PS a whole ship full of electric cars............ and it didnt spontaneously combust... who would have thought it? ;) )
Great to hear about the progress on EVs and charging in Australia.
Quick question: Any chance of getting a quick recap video of the upcoming Everything Electric Australia show for all of us who won’t be able to make it down under? (I know that all of you are quite busy that weekend, but a quick walk-about with some commentary would be greatly appreciated)
Cheers,
from a Canadian LEAF owner 😊
Hi Robert, look forward to seeing you in Sydney this weekend. We live in Newcastle so home charging is the order of the day, a trip to Sydney and back on a charge is no problem in the Model 3. Please bring Chau Le back on, I would really like to find out more about Octopus energy and if their business model will be extended to Australia. Regards Russell
Good day from Sydney, looking forward to seeing you at Everything Electric at The Showground Homebush.
We need more Chau Le's in this world, forward thinking and genuinely interested in her job 👍👍
So refreshing to hear from an enlightened energy company.
It's rare to find someone so suited to her job. Chau Le is a professional communicator that loves her job. You'll have to get her back on
That was one of your best episodes. Chau Le had a great story to tell and delivered it with passion. 👏👏
Most of Australian new home should have Solar with battery back up. The governments should insist that all new homes have this and to help push it make in compulsory in order to get the First home owner grants.
V2G EV with selfplug-in features and rooftop solar PV could mean offgrid living in the suburbs.
Most vehicles drive building to building and short distances.
So a simple wall plug at bumper height and like a home robotic vacuum cleaner the EV can remain grid connected 23hrs every day.
It is amazing how technology is allowed to be used in Australia to join up different technology and make it easy to progress. Whereas the UK has too much red tape and seems to do it's best to stay in the past. Countries and Governments need to embrace this new technology and accept that how we have always done things, is now not necessarily the best method.
If the UK made electricity price cheaper by moving tariffs from electric to the gas. We should stop calculating the price of electricity from oil prices as for the past 15 months, zero carbon generation has been more than fossil fuel generation. Solar and wind technology will continue to grow and be added so this trend will grow to replace fossil fuels. We then need huge storage batteries to help alleviate spikes.
There doesn’t seem to be a real understanding amongst those responsible for planning EV infrastructure here in Australia that there are two basic potential customers who have different objectives.
There are those who are unable to charge at home for any number of reasons: they need chargers local to home which can be used for say weekly charging for an hour or two and those on road trips who need to have confidence that fast charging en route can be available.
During the Christmas period I had to travel from Tea Gardens to Manly and back in my Tesla: I’d heard that the Heatherbrae site was heavily used but there were marshalls there (thank you Tesla) and the plan was to pick up a quickie there on the way down so as to be able to do without charging coming home.
As it happens there WERE marshals there who advised long waits so we just opted out to plan b and went on to Tuggerah where we picked up the charge and continued.
It shows two things: that having a reasonably long range takes away any drama and that knowing Tesla looks after their charging sites so that you can be 99.9% sure of them does the same thing.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Positive true life stories are needed to combat the FUD.
I purchased a Toyota Yaris Cross AWD Hybrid late last year because I don't have off street parking and my round trip to work several days a week is 100km and I also run bird watching tours in outback NSW. When the charging network is right and the value for money is reflected in the BEVs I'll make the eagerly awaited leap.
My wife's Model Y was supposed to be delivered before Christmas. Then we got a notice that it would be before January 14. Then the stink bug ship got sent back. Then delivery blew out to before Feb 22 now it has blown out again to before March 7. She sold her car in mid January. The result. I am now the chauffeur of a very lovely but also very vocally assertive back seat driver. 😒🤐
Great interview of someone with huge understanding and vision ! Thank you.
(please Robert can you try to stop shaking your camera at almost every video 😅)
I would like to see Origins economic modelling on accessing home and vehicle batteries vs just buying their own grid size batteries. Per kwh of storage a Tesla mega pack is about 1/3rd of the cost of a residential power wall.
I’m in Alberta, Canada. We hear lots about why our network can’t deal with more renewable supply or more EV demand. On the other hand, I hear all of these great solutions elsewhere & it really makes me wonder what is so unique about us that makes it impossible here. I assume it’s politics or vested interests avoiding change, but maybe I’m being unfair/disingenuous?
I’d love a discussion involving knowledgeable people from different parts of the world to help me see what makes the grid work in some places and not in others.
You are being hit with FUD from those whose income is from mining oil .
How much does Alberta, Canada rely on income from mining fossil fuels?
I am a kiwi but even i know your region is a fossil fuel supplier .
@@martinsmallwood9605 I don’t know the numbers but as context: all of the provincial pandemic costs for support, lost taxes, increased healthcare, etc were repaid to the province what felt like overnight when the oil price went up and caused the royalties to shoot up. Oil makes Alberta a rich province with many well paying jobs.
Change will be much harder when there’s a lot of obvious stuff lost but when the “world on fire” message isn’t tipping the scales enough in the majority of Albertans experience. Even if we don’t like that, you can’t just dismiss it if you want to influence people. It’s all a bit depressing. All I can do is drive my ev and show that little changes like that are normal and easy.
Fabulously interesting discussion with an inspirational lady!
Origin Energy. Two major parts to the business. Gas production and distribution and electricity distribution. The electricity also includes coal fired power stations. Also do coal seam gas and as mentioned in another post sold off the fracking division in 2022 after negative publicity. So a major fossil fuel producer and not a totally clean electric company.
Great news you guys......Thanks for all your hard work.....Get moving Aussies
If Tony Seba is right, and he has been so far, the problem for energy companies that have transitioned to all renewables will be too much power. They will be giving it away for free to try and get rid of it.
So play this out in your mind as energy grids become 100% renewables with more and more distributed power generation through customer solar installs. What will the problems actually be? In my mind the problem will be how and on what to use too much power. What industries can be run completely on free extra energy? All your mining? All your stores and shopping malls? How about mineral refineries, steel foundries?
All your transportation?
Origin Energy is already giving away excess renewable for free, to EV owners who can charge their cars between 10am and 3pm each day. Google the EV360 plan from Origin. But I think it’s been oversubscribed and is not open to new applicants.
We definitely need solar canopies to spring up like mushrooms. ❤❤❤❤
An interesting interview with a well informed interviewee. Australia is fortunate to have such a forward looking energy company.
Why can’t we have power companies like Original and Octopus in the US? The lack of grid operation innovation here is embarrassing.
Great show Robert and Chau
Thanks for enduring the heat for us 👍
Loved the Chau Le interview, and all the information about the benefits of new EV's. I'm wondering are you soon going to tell us about the feasibility of converting the 'petrol monsters' into 'EV darlings - I think you did something about this - some time ago - would love to hear how this is going nowadays - seems to fit the slogan: RENEW, REUSE, RECYCLE. Greetings from Ireland.
Here in Halifax UK, wet and cold. Our solar is making the massive sum of 93 Watts right now ! I can’t wait for the two weeks of summer to arrive
I'm the same but at least we're shaving a little bit off everything we're using. All those devices on standby with little LEDs cause "phantom drain" of batteries and phantom element on our electricity bills. I hope you got your panels when the feed-in tariff was still available. I'm paid for generating and then I use it myself so I benefit twice. I love my panels and actively monitoring my usage so I don't send it back to the grid for which I'm paid a paltry amount (6p/kWh).
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Brains and beauty are a great combination and I am not talking about you Bobby
Is that the same Origin that has invested heavily in the giant Beetaloo gas basin ?
Yes, recently sold off most of it but will still be making money from fracking the Betaloo.
Definitely an untrustworthy, greedy company, chasing the bottom line.
It's a business. That's what they do in case you don't know.
@@1knightinbangkok946 Does that then excuse individuals to also be untrustworthy, greedy and chasing the bottom line?
This line of reasoning is leading us down a nasty, nasty path.
Great attitude towards EV infrastructure in Australia
Head of CORPORATE strategy... For one of Australia's largest energy companies...
With Australia's history of Coal Lobbying & the energy sector controlling politics...
🤔hmm
I enjoyed my four months in Australia after working in West Java for a few years, but never made it to Brisbane. Mind, there is a local Brisbane, but it rhymes with "this train".
Most concerns I hear from my friends stems from ignorance of the rapid advancement of EV technology. Their concerns are usually completely outdated.
These things eat tyres from what i here and guess what ....How Much Oil Does it Take to Make 1 Tire?
We need about five gallons of oil to produce the synthetic rubbers required for a single tire. The whole tire manufacturing process that follows requires two additional gallons of oil. The manufacturing process uses it to fuel the energy required to prepare the materials and assemble the whole tire.
Bigger ones such as truck tires require, even more, averaging 22 gallons of oil. The tire industry often uses gasoline, the production of which also requires oil. For every barrel of oil (42 gallons), they can produce about 19 gallons of gasoline.
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
If ev cars are so good why did hertz car rental cancelled 100000 tesla order plus cancelled 65000 polestar and off load 20000 tesla hertz had also sixt car renal have cancelled a huge order . The cost of purchasing is very high and after a year to 18 months they are depreciation is huge leaving customers in negative equity. Biggest sales in uk are because of huge tax deduction through work schemes. Public chargers in uk are very expensive in uk
She did not need to pull any funny faces to be completely engaging, hey?
Podcast tech comment and money saving tip for podcasters: Stick with that clip-on lavalier style mic! Sound was good. Yes a big Shure SM7B is the cliche expensive "professional" mic but nearly every time they are used by podcasters people are right on top of them and the popping and blowing that you hear (especially listening with headphones or decent buds) is very annoying! (Either that or they are on a desk mount where every time the the desk is tapped it sounds through the mic.) And finally, a big studio mic simply gets in the way visually if the podcast is going out on video as well as just sound. Podcasters could save themselves a few hundred £ or $ and just use a clip on. Keep professional studio mics for the studio IMHO ... where they can be used correctly positioned and with appropriate mounts and pop shields if necessary.
Thanks for an excellent video, Robert and Chau. Chau Le impressed me as an energy company manager. I will have a look at this company. I just found out they leased EVs. We are in SA.
Just one more great interview. This is awesome, the Highlander.😊
Jesus Christ its like a echo chamber in here 😂
i am with origin energy for my electricity. they are buying electricity from me a 0.07c a kW and selling it back to me for 0.35c a kW and they are also charging me 0.91c a day for the privilege. Do you think that is fair?
That’s theft
It looks like it is time to invest in a Powerwall, and then use most of what you produce.
Interseting that if they have been working on this for so long it hasn't come to household consumers yet. has given a chance for others like Amber Energy to get a foot hold.
Kindness is always free minus the Victorian tax lots of laughs the Highlander😊
So glad you asked about TCO Robert, my brain was doing the same as yours!
clever chook, hey?
You're kidding yourself. Overseas manufacturers have a 2 year backlog of vehicles they can't sell because they are overpriced. Cars sold are depreciating 50% in the first year alone. Insurance is through the roof because even a minor accident can write off the car out of fear the battery is damaged. Range anxiety. Charge anxiety. Damaged charging equipment. Cold temp. Hot temps. The list of issues is endless. Seriously, we're 10 years from being practical. Even then 40% of the world doesn't have the electricity supply to move across so a large part of the world will still be on ICE vehicles
What country are you in?
@@thomasbentley7747 what difference does that make. EVs face the same issues no matter where they are, with some variations based on weather
@@markc6714 Some countries are doing better with some of the challenges
Also, check out the success of Norway
@@thomasbentley7747 where they drive how far? In Europe it's short distances so no worries but go to Asia, Canada, America, Australia, etc where the distances are much greater and it's a completely different story
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A propos your 8.2 KW hrs winter V 65 Kw hrs summer solar generation, when you are back in the UK maybe you might find time to check up with O Wind / O innovations in the UK and see how they are getting on with their Urban wind turbine solution. Have really been hoping these guys will crack this issue and make small but affordable wind energy for the urban market, would just love to know how they are getting on.
Wind is an under-utilised energy source here in the UK. The main downside for residential use is noise. They are bloody noisy. There are many smaller such generators available for campers and the consensus is "too noisy" except for the die-hard fans. (fans. Geddit? I'll get my coat)
😄Good day from Lismore, NSW. I won't be there in Sydney.😢😢
Across the Tasman in Aotearoa New Zealand, I was wondering when Fully Charged might be running an Everything Electric show in this country. There's a lot of interest in EVs, solar energy, and more here - despite a new National-led government that wants to make it harder to run an EV. (Our primary car for the past five years has been a 2014 Smart ForTwo ED, it's a tremendous urban car that I highly recommend [sorry Jack…]).
I proposed that Lismore could have been off-grid. That was what I was offering. We could produce electricity for 26,829,264kw/day at $0.10/kw for $965,853,504 a year.
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The only surge that matters is GHG`s in the atmosphere ..and they are surging . The more green claims there are the faster the rate of GHG rises !!!
Morning an its bloody cold here in the UK
Sorry, but the "Milk Float" era is starting to die. Volvo have just relinguished their interest in Polestar as it was causing Volvo shares to drop. Ford and GM have cut EV production as dealer forecourts are full of unsold EV's. VW sales in China (their largest market) has slumped. The depreciation is massive.
Lol err no! The problem is traditional vehicle manifacturers are making cars no one wants. Depresiation is about the same as with fossil cars. Hyundi / Kia are still selling as are Tesla and all the Chinese vehicle.builders.
Tipping point has been smashed. No going back to fossil now.
Tipping point lol we’re way off the tipping point. Funny the EV’s will be left with something that’s worthless and electric prices increase. You think you will always get cheap night rates, erm no, I give it another 18 months maximum. VED is being added onto EV’s next year, the government can’t keep subsidising EV infrastructure, funny. Most people are used to still having some value in a 8 yr old car or one with 100k miles. But EV’s aren’t worth a penny after the warranty runs out. Bored of hearing all this bull. Funny never needed iCE cars to be promoted, now this is all Chanel’s like this do. Some guy who preaches everyone’s gotta go EV, there so clean compared to ICE they ain’t the manufacture of batteries is poisoning the world. This guys an idiot. I’m not anti EV I’ve got one for the Mrs, M3 Tesla, should last for another 4 years and then sell it, for me it’s a joke, 2.5 years it would be out of warranty so the depreciation would wipe out the money saved on fuel.
Sam Evens is coming
Is the only downside of an EV the refuelling time ? .
Currently insurance companies and repair engineers are still catching up with the rate of EV adoption so insurance can currently be higher and repair costs higher. That's because, for example, Tesla-qualified engineers command double the hourly rate of an ICE engineer as there aren't so many of them. You may see people ranting about Tesla gigacasts rendering Teslas "unrepairable" and having to be written off. To counter this FUD Tesla have made gigacasts available to to service sector at cost price to help with the situation. They are replaceable but even modern ICE cars, if involved in a crash that compromises the chassis, will be written off. It's not specifically a Tesla or EV thing.
Offsetting higher repair costs are much lower maintenance costs. EVs need no annual maintenance services. No oil change, no coolant fluids, very little brake disk replacement (regen braking replaces most use of brakes, relegating them essentially to "emergency brakes" only). Maintenance consists basically of washer fluid, tyre pressures and checking the wipers 🙂
If you don't roadtrip regularly and commute less than, say, 250 miles per day then you should never need to visit a charger (equivalent to visiting a gas station) as you charge at home and set off every morning with a full "tank" in a car that's pre-warmed and defrosted and ready to go. And that costs, typically less than 1/4 of ICE fuel prices.
@@garyrooksby I drive a leaf and thinking of getting a Tesla , I thought I would find one and use the reg to get a quote ( model 3 long range AWD ). The leaf is £320 and the Tesla quote was £360 . I’m 57 years old .
@@garyrooksbynot quite rught sorry.
1/. Point EV's are an order of magnitude more reliable than fossil.cars.
2/. All insurance has gone up in price dramatically. One or two companies have increased the price on EV insurance out of 100's who have not.
@@garyrooksby Tesla and Hyundai also don't sell parts at reasonable prices, pushing up repair costs.
In the case of Tesla: they make a lot of their money selling fleet credits to other automakers. So supporting their existing customers with replacement parts is not a priority for them.
This was the first episode in a long time that I had to stop after 12 minutes. Sorry, but hearing “aaaammm” in every. Single. Sentence. Was far too annoying for me. Like nails on a chalkboard. It’s a shame because it seems like this lady has a lot of good information to share. Still have it a thumbs up Robert.
but publc chargers cost twice as petrol so not worth getting electric car, also octipus energy only allows 5 hours of cheap chagring from home over 5 hrs you get charged 3 times more and bigger battery cars require more than 12 hrs to charge at home
Hope you invited Toyota so they can stop living in denial and see that there is nothing that will stop the EV revolution , and I think you would have noticed that ,Aussies love their Toyotas , it's time for change Australia !!!
It's funny that other automakers have changed their tune to be more in line with Toyota.
@@Robert-cu9bmBecause they know they missed the train clown , ICE is finished , just like the steam engine before it but then luddites can't grasp reality !!!
Actually, if Toyota was on De Nile, it wouldn't be impeding EV adoption in Oz.
@@petergorton9848Have you tried buying an EV here ??? go and see if you can get one with in a year , of ordering , you'd be dam lucky , BTW I have never owned a Toyota , I've worked on them i've driven them , but to me they are nothing but gutless pieces of crap !!!
Origin are a significant retail Electricity and Gas provider, it appears they were totally remiss in not going all out on high capacity PUBLIC charging - across the east coast. (Tesla Superchargers are also few and far between - (even up and down the east coast) - outside of Sydney. ie the whole Newcastle area only has a single location to Supercharge - NB, Sydney with over 5Million people only has 6 Supercharging locations - 4-12 charge points - sure that are hotels and carparks with destination chargers - if you are stopping at the "destination" for a few hours, that helps the first 1 or 2 (or so) arrivals)..
- concentrating on charging at the fleet headquarters and offices, does not sort out the issues people (staff included) face on inter city trips.
- Sure SLOW charging - Level 2 or ?? 2 - Can be done anywhere. But on a trip - the Necessity to stop for that additional break for 30-45 minutes - factor in that economic impost.
- FBT (Fringe benefit Tax) and LCT (Luxury car tax - which is a totally outdated and unnecessary tax) - IS a Government Subsidy - as is a total lack of tax on electricity used solely for transport purposes, First Generation EV adopters are mostly affluent early adopters or the occasional starving vegan cyclist, those most easily able to afford the impost of "being cool".
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~45 minutes in - the "Personal Anecdote" ..... Who is paying $1000 for a SERVICE for a Petrol car (Or then they are also making payments on a relatively new "Prestige" (Merc/BMW/AUDI) ), yes an OLD / high mileage ICE car needing a new clutch (once -or twice, or other high value occasional item), but the exaggeration seems intense - or comedic... (The metric with Old vs New cars: buy a New car make bigger payments (or pay more upfront), buy an old car make bigger value repairs..
Cheaper registration etc, for EVs is a SUBSIDY - there is no merit for the general public in funding this consumption (for those able to afford) - once critical mass is achieved and the poorer people CAN get on board, the subsidies go away, hopefully the used vehicles - ex fleet, are ridiculously cheap moving forward....
(I too have an ICE vehicle to take - Camping, adventuring, hauling trash, picking up garden supplies - having an EV would be as an ADDITIONAL CAR, the cost of Insurances alone + monthly payments - (or monthly repayment of the savings loss), would make it non economical, despite getting free power from the sun.)
ho humm---
PS, I have no "envy" and could go out tomorrow and buy any brand new EV with cash at hand, the only reason, would do so is because of the performance (acceleration) advantage - but then my license would probably evaporate on the drive home (jk).
I think it's a bit unfair ranting about the lack of an infrastructure across an entire continent (or the bit of the continent you care about) to a single private company. Maybe campaign to your local government or, as you're so replete with finances, set one up yourself. You'll see how logistically difficult and mind-numbingly expensive it is to do. Give them some time!
As for the EV incentives having "no merit for the general public" please consider the impact on local air quality. Avoiding tailpipe emissions and the healthcare costs of their impact on children and the elderly. That's ignoring climate change impacts, whether you believe in them or not.
Warning to your guest....car manufacturers will stop covering V2G cars under battery warranties. This will end customer willingness to participate. So fully developing V2G may be a waste of money.
I would recommend you look into offering an insurance policy that you can offer to your V2G customers that would cover car/battery replacement if premature degradation should occur out of warranty.
Until the money paid, or saved, by a utility to V2G customers roughly equals what it will cost to buy a new EV over time, then V2G may not be a good deal.
Batteries can only do so many cycles of charge discharge without degradation. If you are part of a V2G grid and there are lots of times that energy is pulled from your car then the batteries will suffer over time and you may need a new car prematurely.
This may be solved in the near future by batteries that can cycle so many times without degradation that they will not be harmed by V2G.... but today's batteries in existing cars are not there yet. Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries may last double the number of cycles but this still needs to be increased if V2G is widely used.
Else the reimbursement needs to cover the purchase of a new vehicle over time.
No wonder energy companies think V2G is the "Holy Grail".... they don't have to pay for the battery nor the device to connect you to the grid, nor maintenance, nor a new vehicle after they degrade your battery. Cha Ching in their pockets! If the utility has to pay you enough to replace that battery, if damaged or severely degraded, then they would come out cheaper having their own battery farms.... and therefore would not have to offer or support V2G.
I don't think V2G will get much adoption if the "grid" takes more than about 20% of the battery capacity during the peak demand time.
20% of even a 40kWh battery (8kWh) adds up over millions of vehicles.
Such a shallow discharge may actually *improve* the longevity of the batteries. I have heard that Lead acid batteries last longer in standby applications if you discharge them for 30 minute to a hour once per month or so.
@@jamesphillips2285 Hmmm.... good possibility there. I like the way you think and you very well could be right. If there were enough participants in V2G then the load on any one car should be minimal. However as soon as the grid pull stops, later your car will charge up again. Whether these smaller pulls, then charging again, also can cause more degradation I don't know. Perhaps, perhaps not.
Charging infrastructure in Australia is hopeless. EVs just do not stack up in Australia.
Sure ,charge at home . I think less than half of the population would be able to do that.
My mate just bought a $50,000 MG EV. He charges at home off his solar array .It’s the only way they are practical.
Home to work 3km . Home to Dan Murphy’s 2 km. Home to Woolies 3km. Forget road trips, that’s what the $5000 Commodore is for.
Facts.
Cars and light trucks produce 8% of Australia’s CO2 emissions.
Australia produces under 2% of the worlds CO2 emissions in total.
There is a huge push to electrify the Australian fleet, where we are a country the size of America with a population twice That of Papua New Guinea .
Power generation is derived 50% coal, 20% gas, 30% hydro, solar,wind.
Until they get rid of coal, and put in charging infrastructure that costs less than petrol, they can forget it.
Most people cannot charge at home off there own solar array and battery.
The other downside of EV ownership are expensive purchase price(including government incentives) , terrible resale values, battery degradation, range anxiety, risk of thermal runaway, insurance costs, cost of servicing and repairs.
When owning an EV has more benefits than negatives, I’m in.
I think Hydrogen will end up being the long term answer.
I would like to fact check these guys. 45% saving with the FBT exemption??? Seriously?
David, please research how hydrogen is made from natural gas.
Listen.. We don't want electric cars end of..
All those who wanted one got one .... And some have massive debt..as the price has dropped. .. now there is a trickle of sales due to green corporate, government ....
You don't speak for me. Be syntactically correct and exercise your perfectly acceptable right to say "*I* don't want electric cars". I, myself, certainly do but I won't try to convince you. You've made up your mind and speak for yourself.
@@aperitifs , erm... The Tesla Model Y is the best selling vehicle of any kind in the World. That's not a "trickle". EV sales YoY up by millions. Tesla alone sold 1.8 million in 2023 (up from 1.32 million in 2022). Facts don't care about opinions.
😂Tesla model Y was the Best selling carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023
Lol sorry but you are absultly NOT representative of the "public" and clearly have never driven one. When you do.. perhaps the 2nd time you drive one, you will get "it".
Maybe our cities wont give us lung cancer one day