Layering is definetly a pretty sorry solution they put in place, and not only for HC deaths. But, you did know about it and were actively looking for a group right in the middle of a dangerous spot, so that one is a bit on you. We go Agane haha
Absolutly! I am not certain! But as far as I know, do I not know someone that got his character back because of complaining xD Since I died twice to layering now, I am ultra super careful now with groups Still layering suxxs, like you I don't like in general. I miss the private server solutions^^
Good Eyes! Thing is at this moment I just didn't realize in this moment I got layerd :D Recheck the video, it took me very long to understand what's going on^^
@@Cryphis You should've moved to the right when the mob aggroed onto you. Plus you accepted a party invite in the middle of spawns. There was so much you could've done lol
@@Tetra329 Moment! :D The mobs spawnt because of the party invite. That was the reason why I have died :) In WoW are different kind of Layer. It's like a server in a server. If you accept a party inv. You get on the layer of the party owner. In this case I got in his layer were the mobs are all alive in the area. And I forgot about layering, because I played mostly on private server and there was no layering :)
1. Layering is good because the alternative is more servers which will end up dying out. 2. Never log out or join groups where mobs can spawn - ideally don't even stand where mobs can spawn because hyper spawns are just as dangerous. 3. Caves/Camps are dangerous and risky. That island is a camp/open world cave. Sometimes it's better to grind mobs rather than enter caves/camps to do a quest. 4. Don't fight mobs that deal magic damage if they are yellow. They are imbalanced and you resist more damage if you are a couple levels higher. This is the reason pillagers are so deadly in Westfall. 5. Rested XP is designed for speed leveling - not safely leveling. It will frequently put you in dangerous spots because the best XP/hour is to kill mobs around your level and do risky quests. The reason for this is each level lower a mob is compared to your character level you get reduced XP. At your level it's about 9% reduced XP per level. It can be slower to kill green mobs, but much safer. If you were higher level you likely wouldn't have pulled the second mob as you were running. 6. It doesn't kill you, but keeping your head below the water while fighting is a bad habit. Jump up when fighting in water so you can breath and don't die. 7. The risk of doing WC often isn't worth the reward. The swamp beast hits like a truck and tanks frequently die. Deadmines > BFD > Stocks for Alliance. No need for WC unless you were playing horde - even then I've had a tank die to getting crit + parry hasted while I was spamming holy light. They died, but I still got that sweet int shield. Hope you go agane.
@@Cryphis Which servers did you get level 60 server first? I disagree that it's not a big deal, at least for hardcore. You make any mistake - including bad positioning and it's back to the abbey. You are a bit cocky for how you play and manage your abilities. You stood in the AoE and took a bunch of damage, not sure when you get shield bash, but i thought it was lower levels. When you popped your potion there was zero chance you could die. Maybe you are just a bit rusty, but you make a lot of small mistakes just in this video. Without layers we would have more servers. Is that what you are suggesting? You would like less layers and more servers? They tried that before and it didn't work out well once the hype died off. So now they are doing mega servers with layers so players dont get stranded on dead servers.
@@Cryphis Just saw your most recent death. You said there was nothing you could do, but looks like you had a target dummy on your bars? Also why did you have your back to the group? Didn't give you much time to react to the accidental pull.
How many players can be online on this server? I am not certain but it feels like that those servers are not much bigger than private servers without layering. They could fit up to 12.000 people online at the same time. And it's not like that private servers have good equipment^^ Furthermore I am not a programmer, this question came just to my mind. Why not merge servers as soon as they have to less pop? Shildbash do you get very early but I didn't buy it. Before lvl 40 you need to keep track of your money. Shield bash is nothing needed, it's nice to have, a quality-of-life feature. Not saying that no Speedleveler would ever buy it, or that it's super useless like Thunderclap. About the hp potion check it again it was absolutely necessary to use it. 1 more hit of the cloud and I would be gone ^^ Or does the cloud fate at the moment when the mobs dies? About the server first, sorry for the misunderstanding I got first by class 60. Lost twice to a Mage. So Server 2nd 60. One was Silverhand, lost against JokerD the other can I not remember. You can check it in my stream description tho.
@@RackerHC "Also why did you have your back to the group?" What do mean exactly? About the dummy. I just had 1 and I never used 1 before. How much hp does it have btw?
the way you played this was sketch from the very beginning of the video, typing while fighting, not bringing enough food, instead you had to bandage, chest was in need of repair, and then accepting the invite in the middle of an island. Layering is and always has been a good thing, it was just sad that you forgot about it in this particular situation.
This situation was absolutly safe^^ Nothing hard there. Also the repair thing, who cares, even if it gets red while being infight, not a big thing. About layer, hmm have you ever played on private server without layer?:)
@@dereksanchez6751 I understand that some people like to go super safe. But I want titels, you will never get server first if you play everything super safe :D And that's ok if its not the goal tho
And this is what you get for playing HC on a game not designed to be played on HC oh but forgive me you'll just "Go again" like i'm sorry i have no sympathy for HC players.
This sounds like a stroy :D No one tells you to play it and no one is complaining about dying in hc... At least not here :) Whats your story for being so mad ?:)
Yes with fast use of Counterattack it should be fine. But I didn't know at this moment that I got summon in another layer. I thought the 1 Mob is instant respawn (check it again he spawn exactly at the corpse) and the other is a patrol or something. Thanks for your kindness.
Well normally I don't care. But since my first char died as NA & EU highest level warrior and my 2nd at 39 by layer and my 3rd by layer again I get annoyed now, yes ^^ The first death was 100% on me, you can check it out here on the channel, played way to risky.
Layering is definetly a pretty sorry solution they put in place, and not only for HC deaths.
But, you did know about it and were actively looking for a group right in the middle of a dangerous spot, so that one is a bit on you.
We go Agane haha
Absolutly!
I am not certain! But as far as I know, do I not know someone that got his character back because of complaining xD
Since I died twice to layering now, I am ultra super careful now with groups
Still layering suxxs, like you I don't like in general. I miss the private server solutions^^
I knew it was GG when he spent more time whispering then focusing on the mobs hitting him, that mob basically had 2 free hits before he stoped typing.
Good Eyes! Thing is at this moment I just didn't realize in this moment I got layerd :D
Recheck the video, it took me very long to understand what's going on^^
Rule #3 of HC Wow, Never Ever Disrespect an Elemental Mob.
haha thats a good one :D
You are a warrior with a yellow chest already going in such a place solo knowing about layering and the spawn rates? Deserved, 100%.
absolutly! Not much you can do after getting layered
@@Cryphis You should've moved to the right when the mob aggroed onto you. Plus you accepted a party invite in the middle of spawns. There was so much you could've done lol
@@Tetra329 Moment! :D
The mobs spawnt because of the party invite. That was the reason why I have died :)
In WoW are different kind of Layer. It's like a server in a server.
If you accept a party inv. You get on the layer of the party owner. In this case I got in his layer were the mobs are all alive in the area.
And I forgot about layering, because I played mostly on private server and there was no layering :)
1. Layering is good because the alternative is more servers which will end up dying out.
2. Never log out or join groups where mobs can spawn - ideally don't even stand where mobs can spawn because hyper spawns are just as dangerous.
3. Caves/Camps are dangerous and risky. That island is a camp/open world cave. Sometimes it's better to grind mobs rather than enter caves/camps to do a quest.
4. Don't fight mobs that deal magic damage if they are yellow. They are imbalanced and you resist more damage if you are a couple levels higher. This is the reason pillagers are so deadly in Westfall.
5. Rested XP is designed for speed leveling - not safely leveling. It will frequently put you in dangerous spots because the best XP/hour is to kill mobs around your level and do risky quests. The reason for this is each level lower a mob is compared to your character level you get reduced XP. At your level it's about 9% reduced XP per level. It can be slower to kill green mobs, but much safer. If you were higher level you likely wouldn't have pulled the second mob as you were running.
6. It doesn't kill you, but keeping your head below the water while fighting is a bad habit. Jump up when fighting in water so you can breath and don't die.
7. The risk of doing WC often isn't worth the reward. The swamp beast hits like a truck and tanks frequently die. Deadmines > BFD > Stocks for Alliance. No need for WC unless you were playing horde - even then I've had a tank die to getting crit + parry hasted while I was spamming holy light. They died, but I still got that sweet int shield.
Hope you go agane.
WoW thanks for your comment and all the effort you spend into it
@@Cryphis Which servers did you get level 60 server first? I disagree that it's not a big deal, at least for hardcore. You make any mistake - including bad positioning and it's back to the abbey. You are a bit cocky for how you play and manage your abilities. You stood in the AoE and took a bunch of damage, not sure when you get shield bash, but i thought it was lower levels. When you popped your potion there was zero chance you could die. Maybe you are just a bit rusty, but you make a lot of small mistakes just in this video.
Without layers we would have more servers. Is that what you are suggesting? You would like less layers and more servers? They tried that before and it didn't work out well once the hype died off. So now they are doing mega servers with layers so players dont get stranded on dead servers.
@@Cryphis Just saw your most recent death. You said there was nothing you could do, but looks like you had a target dummy on your bars? Also why did you have your back to the group? Didn't give you much time to react to the accidental pull.
How many players can be online on this server? I am not certain but it feels like that those servers are not much bigger than private servers without layering. They could fit up to 12.000 people online at the same time. And it's not like that private servers have good equipment^^
Furthermore I am not a programmer, this question came just to my mind. Why not merge servers as soon as they have to less pop?
Shildbash do you get very early but I didn't buy it. Before lvl 40 you need to keep track of your money. Shield bash is nothing needed, it's nice to have, a quality-of-life feature. Not saying that no Speedleveler would ever buy it, or that it's super useless like Thunderclap.
About the hp potion check it again it was absolutely necessary to use it. 1 more hit of the cloud and I would be gone ^^
Or does the cloud fate at the moment when the mobs dies?
About the server first, sorry for the misunderstanding I got first by class 60.
Lost twice to a Mage. So Server 2nd 60.
One was Silverhand, lost against JokerD the other can I not remember. You can check it in my stream description tho.
@@RackerHC
"Also why did you have your back to the group?"
What do mean exactly?
About the dummy.
I just had 1 and I never used 1 before.
How much hp does it have btw?
First rule of hc: dont take invite in multiple spawn range
Haha thats on Point! :D
the way you played this was sketch from the very beginning of the video, typing while fighting, not bringing enough food, instead you had to bandage, chest was in need of repair, and then accepting the invite in the middle of an island. Layering is and always has been a good thing, it was just sad that you forgot about it in this particular situation.
This situation was absolutly safe^^ Nothing hard there. Also the repair thing, who cares, even if it gets red while being infight, not a big thing.
About layer, hmm have you ever played on private server without layer?:)
should have had intimidating shout on your bar. pretty sure you get it at 22.
Haven't been at the trainer :D
@@Cryphis smh... :/
@@dereksanchez6751 I understand that some people like to go super safe. But I want titels, you will never get server first if you play everything super safe :D
And that's ok if its not the goal tho
Have to remember layers unfortunately and never whisper and talk as much as you were doing that particular quest
Yep always keep the layering in mind. Since its my 2nd layer death I will definitely keep it in mind :D
You play hc too, right?
@@Cryphis yeah i have died to laying once at lvl 44, wasnt a dungeon group, was a friend asoon as he got online that invited me
@@camerounburke370 oh well. Guess on higher lvl layer will be on of the main reasons why people die :D
Layering is such a dog shit mechanic for classic period. people have been hating this ever since they dropped classic era realms
Thanks for beeing with me!
You have parry…. Man WTF usw and you are find
You mean Counterattack. You are right, thing is, at this moment I didn't know that I got into another layer I thought it's respawn + patrol :D
And this is what you get for playing HC on a game not designed to be played on HC
oh but forgive me you'll just "Go again"
like i'm sorry i have no sympathy for HC players.
This sounds like a stroy :D
No one tells you to play it and no one is complaining about dying in hc... At least not here :)
Whats your story for being so mad ?:)
@@Cryphis Ah yes the ol "you're just mad rhetoric, it's called having an opinion you, i suggest you grow up and accept other adults are allowed those.
@bearbrain1123 your opinion isn't just. Go spread hate elsewhere loser.
@@bearbrain1123 It's the way how you write. Very disrespectfully.
@@Cryphis Oh grow up, what are you, 12?
we're adults, i can speak to whoever i want, however i want
Schade, kann man nichts machen lol
Jep, nur dazulernen.. Hoffentlich xD
Maybe just risk that 2v1 and dont run? honest question
Yes with fast use of Counterattack it should be fine. But I didn't know at this moment that I got summon in another layer.
I thought the 1 Mob is instant respawn (check it again he spawn exactly at the corpse) and the other is a patrol or something.
Thanks for your kindness.
@@Cryphisthat was some BS rng anyway rip
Playing WoW of all ames on Hardcore is a really really really bad idea. The time investment versus the fun you get from playing is not worth it.
so cringe
aoe hurts. u can pull them out of there
gg Hardmode waste of time.
Well normally I don't care. But since my first char died as NA & EU highest level warrior and my 2nd at 39 by layer and my 3rd by layer again I get annoyed now, yes ^^
The first death was 100% on me, you can check it out here on the channel, played way to risky.