Science vs Philosophy ft. Physicist Sean M. Carroll
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2019
- Physicist Sean M. Carroll joined the stream to talk about debates, politics, and attitudes of scientists and philosophers alike. Additionally, Sean finally settles the great portal debate.
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Date streamed: 06/11/2019
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen Destiny fanboy this hard this was really cute
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@@Shadow-lq7rx that was a really cute comment
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@@Shadow-lq7rx BEYYTA MALE!
FeelsWeirdMan
An actual real guest and not some random crazy person!? What's going on here?
Completely forgot these people existed tbh
@@bigeurasianstepper yeah, almost forgot what it was like having two intelligent people have an actual conversation.
@@MuscleboundKage Steben.. Intelligent..
Sweet
@@lottabee Maybe compared to them.
Destiny was both a wave and a particle in this debate
Destiny was a particle traveling through every possible trajectory in this debate.
Biggus Dictus big win in the marketplace of ideas
Graham Siggins Pagoda of Ponderings
such a good joke, thank you
Wait, why is this funny
One of the worst debates I saw. The guy is actually reasonable and didnt escape an asylum. Not fun
u know its real when the games r off
TRUE
Pragertrue
Exactly lol
lol
Our boy Destiny got Sean Carroll on? I am so proud.
wtf my uni general relativity unit is now crossing over w my ecelebs. wtf is happening
ive literally never seen destiny so happy
me neither. And thats in 8-9 years of watching him :D
I am genuinely impressed that Destiny actually got Sean Carroll on here. This was far better than the normal conversations/debates he has with cognitively inept apes. Great job and thank you for the amazing content, Destiny!
it's weird how the brain works, listening to a conversation between two intellectuals actually feels soothing and relaxing...it's not just two apes throwing shit at each other. (like the usual Destiny debate)
My brain is unironically still in recovery mode from so many high level important ideas
Graham Siggins I aaaaaagreeeeeeee
@@FormlessPBnJ with that
congrats on the mbld wr
wow good job. ?
The dial of ideas was turned to the hot position in this debate
Destiny got his master's degree in Gnomeology in this debate.
roflmao
Bruh I can't believe this was originally streamed tomorrow. Groundbreaking.
omg he got Sean Carrol on?? That's a big big win.
U forgot to finish your sentence its a big win for the marketplace of ideas :=)
Very cool.
@@Skrebo96 high level, important ideas*
Destiny talking to someone with an IQ in the triple digits? Wow what's the occasion?
I'm a simple man. I see Sean Carroll and Destiny imma click.
7:47 -- As someone who does mathematics, I completely second this comment; and I think a great example of it is when somebody asks what I do. When I tell them, they usually respond with "Oh! That's great! I was never good at math in school." or "Eck! I hate math! But you do you!" While I don't want to attribute unwarranted assumptions about why people talk to mathematicians like this, this kind of interaction always comes off as adversarial or hostile, whether that was the intention or not; and I can't help that it seems like they think I'm going to see myself as superior to them for studying it. It always comes off as imposing that I'm some kind of elitist for having academic interests perceived by the public as difficult. In fact, one of the numerical analysis professors at my undergraduate institution actually joked about how he's been around the world so much that he prefers to lie and tell people he's a global studies professor, because then people will react less negatively and continue a conversation with him.
You can't fool me. I can tell by the alignment of the stars at the exact moment you posted this that in reality you're a mathematical supremacist! /s
More seriously, I know for myself that talking to math nerds is somewhat intimidating, because they have entire fields of knowledge that literally might as well be witchcraft for all that I understand of it, and if this is something you deal with on an almost daily basis, there's every possibility you might want to talk about something related to it, at which point my only option would be to awkwardly stare at you before admitting I have nowhere near the level of knowledge necessary to understand the basics of what you're trying to tell me.
@@werewolf4358 Oh yeah! I mean, I know that math can have a lot of obscure subject matter, but I acknowledge that most stuff I study in math requires too much exposition to clarify the terminology used to non-mathematicians, which is why I often avoid talking about math stuff with people who aren't math people. Even mathematicians will get annoyed by each other because, admittedly, some of them will talk about their subfields to each other and assume, since they're talking to another mathematician, that they'll be understood. I'm guilty of that, myself, since I study mathematical logic; and sometimes I'll mistake a term or concept as common to mathematicians which is actually something with which only mathematical logicians really concern themselves.
I only have an issue with how people in what are perceived as difficult subjects will be treated with this kind of mentality. As regarding the frequency with which it happens, I'd say it's about 50-50 whether people will respond like this. The other 50% or so will respond pretty normally; and of course, it's not too much of a bother, but it also gives me a hint of "Ehhhh... I kinda wish they didn't bring it up, because I almost expected the conversation to turn into this."
>Date streamed: 06/12/2019
Destiny has not falsified the Christian god yet, and as punishment he has been sent into the future
WiredGuitars wut
@@benmorgan1718 gary edited the description, disregard this comment
But it was already the 12th of June in some parts of the world, so it is technically true.
It's still in the future though. How did he stream this in November 2019 already?
@@sergeyshoygu2743 make me feel like i choose you like I'm ash
44:27 This is why y'all came for. The portal question.
TRUUUUUUUE
Holy shit you actually got Sean Carrol? That’s amazing. I’m a libertarian now. Unban me from the subreddit or else I’ll become an anarchist.
I love Destiny's reaction to Sean's explanation of the portal problem at the end. He explains it exactly how Destiny did right at the start of his 10 hour debate with chat. Destiny's very first intuition was the same as one of the greatest living physicists', must have felt so vindicating.
Now I have to learn quantum physics to debunk that portal answer...
Edit: Just learned all there is to know about quantum physics and the physics guy is right.
@RARAYAYA RAA how did it suck? It was a perfect explanation for an audience that doesn't understand physics. As a person looking through the portal seeing the box come toward them, do you really think the box just stops when it gets to you? That way you don't have to talk about conservation of momentum or frames of reference and shit like that
@RARAYAYA RAA yes hes doing that especially for the people who dont understand Physics... thats the reason why. He assums that most people do not understand why and the explanation probably is not something We could understand in a Single conversation.
I dunno. I think he's wrong. I do agree if you were looking through the blue portal, it would look like the cube is flying at you at X speed but that doesn't mean the cube (stationary) will somehow gain kinetic energy to fly out like B. That's like saying if you shoot a gun, the frame of reference of the bullet is that the gun is escaping it at a extremely fast speed therefore the gun is going that fast even though it's "stationary" with recoil. Now if the platform below the portal is going up and the orange portal is stationary then yes, the cube will end up like "B" because you're exerting a force onto the cube and throwing it out.
@@Johnny-wv9cn But the gun is moving away from the bullet relative to it, speed is relative, nothing really is inherently stationary or moving, objects move only relative to eacother.
@@rpgwiz I used to be an Atard, but I thought about it exactly that way and it made me realize it's actually B
Destiny was neither created or destroyed in this debate
This is a wonderful interview. Im really impressed the way Destiny was able to ask engaging questions for Sean. 10/10 Would love to see more interviews like this.
Wow this is awesome! U made it Destiny! Gratz buddy.
First time I've seen Destiny fan-boy anyone, and he handles it very well. It's pretty eye opening in terms of how respective he is toward the many people he's interacted with over the many videos I've watched; he initially treats everyone as a person to respect, and only later during the interaction he decides to demean them. Best example I can give is the "ahmazin" guy. But generally he continues to give people the benefit of a doubt and respects them throughout their interaction with them.
One of the best guests so far loved the conversation
Finally an intelligent and interesting discussion, more like this please!
Dropped my whole que when I saw Destiny with Sean Carroll.Beyond debates, very nice.
sincerely loved this discussion. More debates need to be like this.
destiny got pleasure out of this debate
Love me some Sean Carroll. World needs more Sean Carroll. Destiny should get a hold of Mark Blyth.
Fuck u bro
destiny smiled in this debate
This was quality content, would like to see another discussion with Sean.
Woah, so cool you got Sean Carroll. I'm so happy I got to see one of his talks at the Royal Institution in London.
Destiny talks to somebody he likes! It's so great to see him happy to talk about these things with someone. Love this
I’m fkin happy asf about this! More academics! These streamers are relatable to some but painfully close minded at times
Sean Carrol ?! Ma boy!
Destiny and the chats reaction when he mentioned Bayesian reasoning was amazing
Nice I love Sean! Amazing that you two got together
destiny was totally fangirling in this debate
THank you Destiny, very uplifting.
Actual high-quality content from Destiny... It's been a while...
I listened to every episode of mindscape before I even discovered destiny. I’m SUPER stoked to find this video.
I never clicked a video of destiny faster than this one when i saw Sean Carroll on the title. That was a great convertation, hope he will have more of this type of guest, maybe Richard Wolf or Chomsky.
Exactly, we need more communists on here comrades
@TF MS The hunger and death are capitalist pig conspiracy theories. Communism only failed because of US meddling and sanctions. Without those sanctions, we could've made the world a utopia.
@TF MS what's your problem
@TF MS Yes
@@WayoftheDave Any thoughts on the last debate?
destiny seems to be really excited its nice to see thank you
Really good video. This was so good
Sean Carroll?? Amazing! Well done Destiny
Ahh mazin'
One of my favorite videos from destiny
This was great. More of these kinds of vids please. :)
Two of my favourite people on the internet talking to each other... amazing...
Amazin
Sean Carroll wrote my general relativity textbook in this debate.
The moment I heard Steven being a fan of Sean from Lex's podcast my love for him grew even more.
This is awesome.
Destiny got streamed from the future in this debate.
Amazing! Simply amazing destiny!
Prior to this, all I knew about Sean Carroll was from some of the topics we addressed in my philosophy of science class, and a debate he did with William Lane Craig. I remember, he was one of the few people to actually impress me when debating WLC; I could tell even then that he was a careful thinker. It's good to see him again, gonna check out his podcast
How did he get Sean Carroll on? No memes, this is amazing!
Of all the videos I wanted to be a 6 hour talk this is the one I'd love to be it.
Holy wow!! You got Sean Carroll?! Well done ma guy!
Destiny is... Excited?...
Destiny got DESTROYED in this debate in an infinite amount of universes.
Nice Steven, that was fun!
This was awesome.
Great conversation :)
I love that this shows how excitable our dude can be! Great conversation too!
Awesome stuff Destiny. I want to hear you talk/debate with Sam harris. Get it done!
For anyone that enjoyed this conversation, I highly recommend reading any of Carroll’s books. The Big Picture is my personal favorite
Up and Up. Great content
Destiny's wave function got renormalized in this debate
loved this
I'm here for the return of the Portal Question!
26:55 lmao the destiny/the chat’s reaction to Carroll saying he’s a capitalist
lol
lol
I can't recommend Sean Carroll's books and work enough. Great interview.
My brain got improved in this debate
This was streamed tomorrow based on the description
Wormholes
I had no idea this existed. Sean Carroll is one of my favorite people.
Same this is so cool
HOLY SHIT!!! Never expected Sean Carroll to be here!
Destiny hasn’t fanboyed this hard since his talk with Maddox
Awesome chats
This level of guest fame is just a foreshadowing of the eventual Ben Shapiro interview/debate.
I want to live in the weird world where Ben and Destiny disagree really fucking hard but they still build enough rapport to talk to each other frequently.
I don't really like Shapiro but it would be hilarious if these two became sorta friendly with each other.
Yeah I don’t know - Shapiro doesn’t do so great when he’s not arguing with a blue-haired, already-upset teenager
Destiny was thrown through a portal in this debate.
seeing one of these conversations that doesn't quickly devolve into a knife fight is nice
Destiny increased oxytocin production during this debate
Destiny's principle quantum number went up in this video. You can tell by how much more energy he has.
Holy shit this is so cool!
frustration and subsequent life and self worth questioning were DESTROYED in this debate
I've never seen destiny so legitimately happy and positive haha
best one so far anyone agree?
Ah it renews my hope in humanity to hear such a candid and thoughtful discussion.
What are those comments on the right side of the screen???
Oh....... nevermind.
more like this please
Why haven’t I heard about this sooner? Carroll has a great podcast.
This is great. I've enjoyed Sean's physics related stuff and podcast but I'm glad he seems to be reasonable and smart on the political side also.
*Have Richard Wolff on the show!*
Grim Song - RICHARD D WOLFF, YES!
And Yanis Varoufakis
This aged well.
Mmm *cheffs kiss* this aged like wine
@@barnebyoconnell8176 It was, it was good content.
Wow. you got Sean Carroll . Really like his work & btw great interview with Arian Foster .
I would like to see more this reasonable stuff if possible.
holy shit. more like this please. people with knowledge not just youtube "celebs" with no credentials, references or understanding of a subject.
Sean is the best!
I approve of shows with actual guests.
OMG!! for all the times Destiny's talked about loving the hell out of Sean Carrol, I didn't know he actually spoke to him already! this is fucking gold!!!!! :D
44:34 anyone have a link to the Portal picture discussed here?
EDIT: Fuck me. I didn't think this would be easy to google but aparrently it was. Google "a or b portal" and it shows up.
Nice one