If this is new I want to say that the benchs that other people sent in look computer generated when displayed on your wall. I mean this as pure critisism as I love your content and want you to succeed :-) Loved your Quantum computing interview recently! :-) xxx
The Soldapullits are bullet-proof, been using them for decades, since the early 90's at least. You can arm them by pushing it against your (outside upper) leg, get some real speed to it with practice. The thumb arm ones are garbage, I have caved in and bought them in the past as they are cheaper, but the ends clog up, or the tip falls out and you have to _faff about_ longer to clean them. Cheers Dave,
Had the cheap one for years, and yes they do have drawbacks, but have used it so much that the push button wore out, so made a new one out of aluminium rod which has lasted. Tips I add some silicone rubber sleeving onto the ends, so that it makes a good seal, and just replace it when it wears out. A good coat of oil on the inside helps with clogging, solder does not stick to it, and new nitrile rubber o ring seals on the piston also help, though it has to be a correct fit, it must be loose on the piston and slide easily in the barrel.
I had a genuine radio shack plastic tailed thumb one that barely worked and I hated until the day it exploded. The one piece metal bodied one that replaced it at least seems to work consistently though, and lacks the explosive disassembly design flaw. Has enough pull to do DIPs and whatnot two leads at a time. When it dies I'll get the good one that I've since learned of, but the metal tailed cheapy wouldn't be bad in a field bag or whatever.
I was so delighted to see your review first thing this morning! Thank you so much for your lively and positive feedback. It makes us all so proud to see how much appreciation both you and your viewers have expressed about my Dad. What a surprise too that you included the excerpt from our 50th Anniversary video! As you can see, my Dad was a person who put a lot of thought and hard work behind his designs and it brings us a lot of joy to see one of his tools given so much praise and attention. My sister and I are proud to follow in my Dad’s footsteps and I can tell you with all my heart, EDSYN’s quest will continue for well-engineered and innovative products for generations to come.
Thank you again, Dave, for taking the time to review us and introduce a whole new generation to EDSYN products. We sincerely appreciate your enthusiasm and can’t THANK YOU enough! Keep up the good work! You are truly a bright spot in our industry.
You guys make some really nifty looking gear. Glad to see there's quality to go with the price. As a student, it means it'll be awhile before I can afford that digital soldering station.
@@hannescamitz8575 They were first with a lot of things, back when their computers were still called "Macintosh." These days? An overpriced wrapper for a Debian OS.
@@BlackEpyon sure they were early, might even first with the window managing os instead of text based like the MS DOS or Pet or Amiga 1000(it had Workbench)a few years later. Today one pays for the logo and design, back then, for the system and quality. Please enlighten me.
@@hannescamitz8575 Xerox Alto had the first GUI, I think, but they were very expensive, about the size of a small refrigerator, and only really used in publishing. Apple had the first truly affordable system with bit-mapped graphics and a GUI, and was marketed towards education and desktop publishing.
Yeah, I have one on my desk and used it for years. I used it to re-cap motherboards way back in the beginnings of the chinese capacitor plague with it. About a year ago, I needed to repair a CNC machine power supply and had to unsolder a LOT of through hole components, so I sprung for the heated power vacuum de-soldering tool. If you have many joints to do, and have the desk space, the powered desoldering pump really saves time, but for the odd job here and there with only a couple of pins, I still use the sold-a-pullt. I remember thinking it was a bit on the expensive side when I first bought it, but it's worth the extra cost. They (Edsyn) recently sent a hot air station to Louis Rossmann to review - unfortunately it didn't quite compete with the hot air tools he stocks (the Quick or now the Atten) - he wanted to like it so badly, but it really needs more air flow, and thus a bigger heater, to deal with the large chips these days.
I am now a fan of these silicon tip desoldering pumps (e.g. model ENGINEER SS-02). Unlike the teflon tip the silicon tip closes the gap between soldering iron and pad even better -> less suction is required. I dont't like the small size of the ENGINEER SS-02 (from japan?), since i have big hands but it works way better than these blue/silver model Dave mentions. But maybe it was just an unfair comparsion because my old blue/silver cheapy just wore out.
I use this at work. Best solder sucker. Bonus feature, if the plunger is press all the way down and the yellow button is pressed, the outside plunger stays down. Very nice to store it in a small toolbox.
Great video Dave. I love the energy, excitement and Ausie slang for a tool as simple as the SoldaPullt. Also it was a great demonstration of its use. The tool works great but unfortunately it has been imitated with cheap knockoffs that don’t work so watch out for those. Stick with the original, follow the cleaning instructions and it’s a great tool to keep around. It’s nice to see the respect you gave to Bill, I sure miss the dude and how he engineered tools designed for all us engineers and hobbyist. Keep up the entertaining and educational videos.
I love my Soldapullt - 20+ years and it still works great. We have another that floats around between us (family) since the early 80's. I can't recommend it enough. Don't forget the extra tips.
@@tripplefives1402 But we won the last battle of the Civil War! (Due to the front's irrelevance to the war's outcome, the Union and Confederate commanders had a gentlemen's agreement to just let things stand where they were rather than shed any pointless blood. The Union put in a new commander near the end, and he was worried the war was going to end without him winning any honor in glorious battle. )
@@tripplefives1402 Little more complex than that. We fought a war with Mexico for our independence(the Alamo and Goliad massacres were part of that war), and joined the US a few years after the war was over(though it had been our intention to join since the war ended). We still maintain great pride in our state(well beyond most), and often pretend we're STILL an independent country.
Pro tip with the blower, you can double tap the trigger to keep running without having to hold it down. For the solder sucker, I usually press it against the table or my leg. You can use it one handed that way.
I really like the tube socket modular design. Super easy service and revision. It can even be done by the user, its literally as easy as replacing a tube. Also very rigid because they have a screw thru the middle.
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Metro-tech pipe locator: Brings back memories when I was an apprentice radio tradesman at the Gas and Fuel Corporation of Victoria in the 80's. I probably repaired 100's of these back in the day, most common problem being the ground plane cable and clamp assembly that would have been stored in the empty compartment. Sometimes the actual internal modules went bad, and just for reference the later units came with epoxy encapsulated modules, not that peelable rubber coating.
I guess the rubber dip was a cheap reenterable conformal coating, and using the 9 pin plug and socket was a cheap way to make a field replaceable module that had a reliable contact, as those bases and plugs would have been a very common part in the 1970's as both new and military surplus. Likely the company bought a lot of 10k of them cheap and used them for this, as the production would have been in the hundreds of units a year. The black box is a potted audio output transformer, just like used in old transistor radios, used for impedance matching to get a high loop current from the 9Vbattery.
With those though the single turn loop works even with your finger over it, high current and naff all voltage across it,so till you get enough iron dust in there to short below 1R it is not going to notice.
That solder sucker rules IMHO. "The Original"... BTW, that plunger is usually pushed down with one hand. Flip it around and aim that yellow end towards the table, POGO stick style :) One good downward push, spin it back and you're on your way.. LOVE IT
Been using that style Soldapullit since the mid 1970's but the anti-static one is the way to go. Anything smaller than this just doesn't have the suction. Make sure to give a hard push to pop out the tip and remove accumulated solder. Give the top a twist to remove it. Stuff a cloth through the disconnected body to clean out. Remove all solder dust from the "O" ring and then add a little lube of your choice. This unit will then last for as long as you want to use it. Oh, you may have to replace a tip every once and a while depending on your desoldering technique.
The Soldapullt tool, the best desoldering yeah. Regarding your recharching recommendation, I say no, I broke my first one doing just that that. After I bought the second one, I only recharge with both hands, no messing around. I also had a radio shack one, it worked, but plastic guide for the puller was pretty crappy, and it basically desintegrated.
If you buy a knockoff, unfortunately they do break easy because the imitation models use cheap brittle plastic. I have used and abused mine for years and other than re-lube and change an o-ring, it never broke. I recharge it upside-down on the table single handedly every time. It's worth buying the original rather than save a few bucks to buy a competing imitator.
The power switches on locator are designed like that so they will automatically shut off when you snap the case closed. It keeps you from accidentally leaving it on and having a dead battery.
The strange little box next to the loop used as an antenna is a matching network - a capacitor to resonate with the loop and some additional inductors and capacitors to adjust the impedance to what the circuit expects.
Video on grounding: I was going through some old fundamentals Friday and in a video you promise a full take on grounding in a circuit complete with all traps for beginners. Please make that.
@@jonathanspoer4666 Thanks for the tip. I bought them directly from Edsyn, they're on sale, then I wrote them a thank you note referencing EEVBlog. Got a response saying they were excited about being featured on mailbag.
@@EdsynProducts I had one of these 30 years ago at my first co-op job, loved it, worked great. Saw this video and jumped right on your website and got 4. Glad to help your US business. Stay safe and have a great day.
Great video Dave, I used to service/repair that brand of pipe locator. There were a number of versions, the valve socket method of module connection was used in quite a number of them. Eventually the modules were properly potted and C type cells used for power. Note the plastic speaker cone for outdoor work. The method in the madness of the big ON/OFF push/pull switches was when you clipped the two halves together, they switched OFF. The conformal coating and potting ensured stability and minimum calibration needed if modules swapped out for repair. Gas and Fuel Corporation here in Victoria (Australia) used them.👍👍👍👍 Many years I used a SoldaPullt, great device. I now have the GOOT Japanese version and still a good investment.
@@damienaustin472 No, I worked for an Electronics Repair Business in Ballarat. They used to drop the local units in when they stopped. Usually a good clean or sensitivity pot replacement. 👍
I've got the same little blower. It's definitely not as power as a can of air, but definitely cheaper in the long run! The spinup delay you're noticing is the blower waiting for a "double click" of the trigger. If you double click it quickly, it will toggle the blower ON, and you don't need to hold the trigger down. Keep up the awesome work!
I used to change large 64 pin (and greater) ICs on VCRs with those Edysn tools. (none of that nice vacuum tool rubbish) I had a 30 gallon trash can next to my stool, and I'd press the plunger against my leg with one hand, the debris would fall into the trash can, and I'd spin it around in my hand for the next pin, while the soldering iron never left my other hand. I'd get a good rhythm going, heating the next pin while pressing the plunger.
I work in repair and calibration in the US and today I finished a repair on a metro tech 480 locator. In my case I didn’t have to do much, I just replaced a bad sensitivity pot and changed the old school 9v cells for packs using standard AA batteries. Quite the experience to see this show up and see your thoughts on them. Mine was also far, far dirtier than this too 😂 I imagine this one sat in a back office for quite a few years
I ordered the Opolar air duster based on this review and have to say I'm impressed. Honestly, I'd say it gets 85% the power of 'canned air' but with a sunk cost of $57 USD. Should pay for itself after 6 months. The brush attachment works great on keyboards. Thanks for the teardown.
I’d say the pull/push style switches that Dave loves switching so much were like that so that they would be pushed off when the 2 sides were put together so that they can’t be left on. Also the removable board looks some odd relay sockets I have seen.
Julie Fortune really does her job. Yesterday i saw a video from Louis Rossmann where he got a demo hot air device. I also have one of those cheaper "radio shack" solder suckers but it always felt it has not enough power to really remove solder on some components. i already was wondering if i am using it wrong.
There is some minor technique to using a Soldapullt which isn't hard to master but some of the imitation units sold by other manufactures as solder suckers just plain suck. I was in a bind on a out of state service call so I bought an off brand solder sucker. The imitation unit barely sucked and the reload arm broke after a few uses. Occasionally when you remove the solder from a trace, a micro bridge may still exist between the component leg and pad but just nudge it with a flat screw driver or pull on the component and it will come free.
Well, I'm sold on that Edsyn solder sucker. They don't seem to be all that expensive either. Obviously more expensive than those little thumb-operated jobbies, but nowhere nearly as expensive as an electric desoldering station.
I have a Edsyn Soldapullt SS750 that I bought (packaged Archer) at Radio Shack in the '80s. It's the thumb push style, but has served me well. I upgraded to one of the aluminum tube types thinking that would be better; it's not. Clogs and not as much suction.
Wow, I've got a goot solder sucker and it looks to be exactly the same. Still shits on those thumb things and from a great height, but I would like an electric desoldering station some day.
I have both the sold-a-pullt, and a heated vacuum pump desoldering station. If you only have a few joints to do, the sold-a-pullt works great. If you're taking a whole board apart to repair the PCB, the power vacuum tool really saves time and wins the day. I still use the manual one if I need to de-solder something with a few pins quickly. If it has more than 6 or 8 pins, probably worth the time to wait 2 minutes for the vacuum station to heat up!
We make a few models of Desoldering Stations that are very powerful and consistent. There is a self contained version or one that can be used with your own shop air. Check out models ZD500DX and ZD505V. Feel free to email us with any questions or assistance at sales@edsyn.com and mention this video for a nice discount.
*Fun fact:* air duster cans contain refrigerant. What makes for a good duster gas? One which liquefies at a relatively low pressure - low enough to be contained in a flimsy spray can. The same sort of properties which make for a good refrigerant! The ones they select are, of course, not _as_ harmful to the atmosphere as what you would find in your refrigerator.
Yes the pipe locators are still made and sold. Also many new water mains installs use a locator wire buried alongside the pvc water line for these units
Also, be careful cocking the sucker, bits of solder might come out and drop onto your board or whatever. I used to take it down and push it against my thigh, and angle the tip towards the ground so any solder would end up on the floor or in a trash can sitting right there.
The reason for the tube sockets is to make it easy to change parts out. If you change a frequency, you pop two boards out ( one in Xmitter and one in Receiver ) and pop in new boards. I you have parts failures, you do the same. Easy enough for a tech to do in the field. Board can be fixed back in the shop later.
I bought one of these Koto Fume Extractors and it arrived yesterday - it works great but I was very disappointed to find there was no HEPA filter included, only the carbon filter. Still for $190 AUD delivered it is very good value imo.
Oh man, I used to repair and calibrate the metrotech locators among others. Mostly the more modern ones but I have looked at one of these before, occasionally someone would walk in with one of these old clunkers. I am actually shocked at the condition of this one. Any one I have looked at has been through the wringer and beyond, mostly servicing the oil and gas industry - those guys are hard on their equipment.
That little fume extractor is kinda neat but $80 seems a bit much for basically a box and a fan, if they could possibly get that price down to about half by offering a DIY kit with only the box and hose then that would sorta be worth it, at its current price though it wouldn't be very hard to make your own using a plastic tub or whatever and save a few bucks.
I much preferred the previous setup with the camera far away and the TV full screen behind you. When you hold something up to the camera in the past, it’s a lot of blurry-ness while trying to hide your face, and pulling the object away just as it comes into focus.
I think the high impedance speaker is just the cheapest they could source. They are designed for PA use, easy to connect many in parallel and run on high(ish) voltage with thin cables.
34:50 Edsyn? Ahhh yes, Louis Rossmann reviewed one of their hot air stations recently, and wasn't exactly impressed. I'd like to see Dave review it and hear his thoughts.
@@NusaCat That's not the tool for his needs but it should have some advantages over the large hot air stations because at least Weller makes similar tools.
Louis obviously didn't read the instructions and there were likely other tips included he should have used. Also desolding isn't about large amounts of airflow, there is a technique to use the proper heat to air ratio. Too much airflow dissipates the heat too much while lower airflow focus's the heat better and avoids damaging sensitive IC's. It's just too bad that the airflow regulator got damaged in shipping, he should have stopped right there and contacted Edsyn to get a replacement. They have great customer service unlike the knockoff companies out there. Louis just likes the demotion hammer approach rather than the surgical approach which can sometimes work but easily blowup and cause excessive damage.
@@jonathanspoer4666 Fair points. Its design still seems pretty "how ya doin'" with the parts and tubes external. Rossmann is a seat-of-the-pants kind of guy, for sure.
usually if you just put a little more silicone grease (available in the plumbing section of the hardware store to use in rubber parts in faucets) on it, it seals fine. I've had mine for many years, and never had to replace the tip or the o-ring yet.
@@gorak9000 never replaced anything on it either but probably could use a new tip. The first time I used it was after probably a decade of sitting in a box and took awhile before figuring out I needed to grease the o ring to help the poor suction I was getting
Those old cardboard battery boxes have been purposely left there as a collectors item. Notice how they have been painstakingly glue back shut. And you just casually rip the open and toss them to the side...
I remember there was a battery very similar to that leaving the same time it was 9 volts was using those back Roy I don't know what year was that Batteries Plus of course this was before the year 2000 don't know exactly what year but long time ago. But those type of batteries at least the ones I had and used and yes the terminals salvaged of course good to start with or useless just stuff I found all times yard sale not really worth actually getting it working the cell styles are whatever but it was bought for parts Pennies on the dollar or less they were just going to throw it out or people that knew me or people that know them excetera or The Bargain Bin at estate sales yard sales or throwing a few dollars for the whole lot of times people did not know what the stuff was or it was stuff laying in someone's basement when they moved in exe numerous times something like that has happened. Gopher all I'm saying chance things or Champs meetups about something. But also back to the batteries what was inside the 1ns that I was able to obtain the modern versions of the old one y but I doubt it they were carbon zink newer replacements 1What it was essenti wa a bunch of Standard carbon zinc 9 volt batteries connected in parallel t bord but the same sort as that was in those battery seat ripped apart but there was roughly 8 or 10 or so 9 volt on the bottom side of that battery terminal on the back let's bus bars connecting all those 9 volt batteries in parallel and then the two steps terminals I thought you had a complete battery that would replace an original one that probably was made out of individual cells possibly e s or something like that or wardrobe oh by the way some 6 volt Lantern batteries have large batteries possibly F Solis I'm not talking about the square ones that would be stacked in the battery but the bout to some of his of a c in terms of diameter butt about 1.5 roughly the length these are good for making custom battery packs can't remember which 6 volt lantern battery is it's up for which ones. Something worth looking into for customer applications by the way to those can be used in some 3 sell flashlights but but still work but last substantially longer do the hunter capacity of the cells know these are alkaline types. Remember once I used to have an old vintage geiger counter pretty sure it was civil defense if I'm real correctly are you were doing the radiation unit in science in school I told my son's teacher I had a vintage geiger counter he said you know you can bring it in for extra credit he said is possible to get working and I said well probably has batteries he said you know that a lot of times in science classes we use those old batteries before he was at that school that there was a Cabot of the old weird batteries in the previous School some of which have been there for years and years so which still even work at least at that time even though they probably been there 20 years mostly Mercury battery set is the real fever surviving alkaline once of course not carbon zinc they were brought it long ago also I noticed that it had a Mercury reference cell as it was referred to in the manual Surprisingly it still had a little bit of old joint but not full which is a strange for mercury battery maybe corrosion? but in the end I did get that geiger counter working that was another nice A+ on a project that I didn't even know would be a project for school had a lot of those it seems at least personally. not just the grades but unexpected extra credit projects just because of something I brought up and wind up doing it. also there were even some projects I did over the summer vacation that hand to do if sometimes if I known about it I'll just have to talk about teachers and lo and behold they said you know you could do a report or presentation or shutch. Some were actually project for history class others as well. back to the electronics and the geiger counter I found ou the civil defense one I had was actually most of the one that's cool owned and that one was a lot more modern if I'm not mistaken it was digital then this one with an analog but yet outdid it I do remember the one I had required at least a 40 some-odd volt battery can't remember long time The exact voltage that is -47 1/2? also the 60v? battery it seems like it used every battery type there was an even the higher voltage 90 volt and one at my tire or Debbie 2 and series can still required a few the D batteries Edition if I'm not mistaken it was for the film it this thing was actually vacuum tubes although I did actually wind up having to change Wenatchee tubes fortunately is a fairly common one interesting there was a meteor shower voltage regulator tube that also served as a pilot light for the unit again this was battery powered I never seen you circuit for like this and anything and I believe there was some sort of inverter circuit as well but don't know why with all those ones at the batteries and I think even required a 6 volt lantern battery if I'm not mistaken the battery pack was a separate box that connected tube plug eventually I scrap that you're out once the batteries are no longer available and some way it gives me another unit that ran off a few batteries if I'm not mistaken it ran off to 6 volt Lantern batteries? that one it it was even more sensitive than the other one so cool. I was going to scrap the original however something told me to keep it one piece don't know why maybe it's the project who knows. By the way I was using one that didn't even need any. also I will end up clearing out pretty much everything I could for me old electronics lab in there left to an extent at least the stuff that be easy enough to transport generator sett is the other oh yeah the bench power supply was actually sort of under the bench this was in the old back room most of the stuff I've been in the basement of school for was they said that seems like eons. also in the basement of school if you went for enough had these an access their it was connect with that building and no one knows what it's for or anything weird stuff there was even a big Mercury Arc rectifier this was Underground it would seem like half a mile or tunnels there's also some sort of steam pump and some things doing with other systems in the city but no one knows why they were connected with the school and yes every time you into the school system weird and also there was no steam whistle In one part of the school Inside Louvered area But no one knows why I suspect it might have been noon whistle War sometime warning system And there was places that no one know for their for one even had a bedroom And bathroom with its own Air handling system and everything And a hallway that went down to these tunnels I'm thinking there was something that people aren't supposed to know about that on I'm thinking so that stuff I've had something to do for all that to who knowsThere was also Windows facing certain directions that one time had a big light in them that could be Covered with colored filter Remotely somehow That would shine through louvers not actual windows? It may have been in a room next to where the whistle was the steam whistleOf course this was locked away behind numerous tours Some witch look like fire doors or heavier even multiple ones I'm thinking Civil defense as in like you know someone was supposed to beMaybe even post-apocalypse This was Evidently around before the cold war era This was constructed at least some parts There was other weird things strange And yes there was a big fallout shelter That looks like it could support a small community but evidently no one had known about that who knows I seen stranger things in that area too so Bloom some very similar And just weird Oh and yeah it looks like it was old radio equipment to inside of various I mean literally almost an inch of dust I do know that there was Is some things that were still working but no one knows why and it had been maintained but no one knows I'm not kidding know why or who and Almost like miniature railroad tracks As far as I know there was no nuclear installation So I guess I'll everything anywhere near there is a weird thing But I suspect had something to do with military Or something like that Which makes sense with all the things that you just don't seeLike that . at least that one time I suspect it had something to do with it.Oh and yeah there was a room full of storage batteries about as far as the eye can see And by the way that mercury Arc rectifier was operational it powered up When we were down thereI had heard rumors around town about things like this As well as there was rumors that if there was a source of water And an independent source of power for something in the area but they didn't know. I think whatever it was was under our school this this is not fiction this isFact but still Lil spooky and mysterious Etc The only reason I knew about this was because my technical knowledge and background they thought I'd like to be able to shed some lightt but I was perplexed Had some answers mostNot so much although there was an AC and DC Switchgear system and controls of some sort And it was like there was Almost like Power Station?well Weird thing is it didn't look like anything I've ever seen a odd voltages That you justWouldn't run across did something like the power for something of that scale I almost thought it was a holdover from the Edison system or perhaps Trolley system that's not it and also the voltages weren't right And too many of themAnd also Is that equipment wasOperational and in actual use you could see the meters changing At least in terms of the current And somewhat voltage Both the AC and DC also there's modern lighting fixtures and other things as well intermixed so obviously it been operating And maintained
I like the camera closer to you. Being able to hold items up to the camera is much better. Back ground screen not filling the picture looks fine to me. Nice video!
I like the other framing (TV taking the whole background) better. You could solve the distance issue by using a second camera for close up shots, would probably be better any way as you could a fixed focus set so you don't have to wait for the camera autofocus as you have in the past.
At 9:15 I don't think they are using the metal as the coil, the wires have insulators to stop them touching it. The coil wire will be on the inside, not the actual metal trim otherwise they wouldn't use those brown insulators at all.
The tube socket was used on everything because it was a common off the shelf part. There was no reason to invent a new connector so they used it throughout the 70's. I am not surprised that you found a tube socket in professional industrial equipment of that era.
to get rid of the dead space below the telly: maybe have your camera on a lower angle? will probably have the double whammy of showing more bench and probably better to hold stuff to the camera
I've been using a Goot brand one from Jaycar that only now I have found out is a copy of the Edsyn one. This one doesnt work too great but is far better than the smaller ones. Going to pick up one of the Edsyn ones, trying to see if I can find one of the AS196-G somewhere first else I might get the silver one.
I saw a old film where they used radioactive material for finding pipes under ground. They just poured some radioactive liquid into the pipe and used a Geiger counter to find the strongest signal. I wonder if that practice was used a lot. Seems quite unsafe.
I can see how with very little work the same cordless air duster design 31:43 can be adapted to be a solder sucker design by using the fan air input & adding a solder trap with a wireless foot switch. to complete the design.
I used a fancier locator from Metrotech, and worked in California. So when the device needed adjustment or repair I could drive to the company and they'd put it on the bench immediately and let me watch the repair along with giving hints on use of the locator. Great company! Oh. those pull switches were like that so that when you put the kit back together they would automatically turn off/
No way, we got a ton of different solder suckers at work, and I tried every single one, since most were worse than my old cheapo one, I even cleaned most and changed the tips if I could.... until I found that golden sucker! I not using anything else from now, that thing is amazing :D
Good to see another mailbag, a few things suck in this video, good quality sucking to say the least, lol. Will definitely be buying one of those solder sucker's, that is bloody awesome and fair price also, about $21 yanky bucks and cheap shipping to Australia when compared to many other stuff. Will buy a few things from Edyson. Thanks Dave, great video mate. I like the camera closer like it is here, pretty cool having the screen showing viewers workshops. Mine is crappy in comparison, I'm a DIYer and build my own bench and shelves, pretty how ya goin' compared to you pro's.
Small correction to help people find them, it's EDSYN, not Edyson. www.edsyn.com/ That price is amazing, I was expecting it to be 3-4 times as much. I'll definitely be buying one when I can afford it. (Shakes angry fist at covid.)
@H Higgins Teflon, really? If so, ugh. I won't be able to buy these after all, because I have birds and when overheated, Teflon offgases toxic byproducts that are lethal to birds at very low concentrations. :( Edit: Googled and you're right. Damn and blast, that makes these a nonstarter for me.
@H Higgins yep, birds are extremely sensitive to teflon fumes. Google and you'll find many reports of people accidentally killing their birds by overheating a nonstick pan at the opposite end of their house. :( I doubt solder fumes are great for them either, but teflon in particular is a well known danger for bird owners.
I have that same air duster. It's not quite as powerful as the cans, but man, so much less waste. I really wasn't expecting it to be as powerful as it is. Battery lasts for quite some time as well.
Are you saying "lone star" is not "just" a Yankee thing or are you under the impression that "lone star" has nothing to do with the USA? I've only heard the "lone star" phrase in reference to the wild west (which I assumed referred to the small towns that only had a single law officer) and Texas's claim of being "the lone star state"... I'd be interested to know of other uses for the "lone star" phrase.
@@dustinbird2090 To a Texan, a "Yankee" refers someone from the northeast US, typically city folk, and they would not appreciate being associated with them. Everyone gets what Dave meant (outside the US, a "yankee thing" just means a US thing in general). But the phrase "Lone Star is some kind of Yankee thing" is hilarious.
@@robertlong13 Interesting, I didn't know that about Texans. I remember learning in school that the song "Yankee doodle dandy" originated from the colonists mock owning of & reversing an insult into an honorific(*) of a British taunt tune where Yankee was synonymous with idiot or fool. Kind of interesting how that has played out lexographically that Texans, as far as you recon, disassociate from the Yankee term and have isolated the term to its colonial roots. You learn something new everyday, right? Have a good one! *If anyone knows of a single word or phrase to fit the description or can provide better historical context, please share.
1:26 Did somebody say Trinitron? Industry workhorse. 3:05 Sir Plus? King Arthur always kept an extra knight around 10:04 Why yes I have. This was referred to as an integrated circuit back in the day. 13:37 High impedance speakers were frequently used with intercoms to act as both microphone and speaker. They were great at neither. Less power required for a given volume? Perhaps, but you'd need a transformer for impedance matching.
34:13 If only they made hoses for use with shop air (Wait...isn't that how shop air is delivered to the tools?) then you could take your compressed air gun outside with you. Also, if you have shop air, you probably also have shop dust extraction. (A budget equivalent would be to use a shop vac with your cordless duster.) The spring is clearly intended to give the switch button a more decisive return. It could also keep the unit usable long after the compliant part of the button breaks, which will probably happen in short order if you use this on a regular basis. I'll never trust the longevity of compliant structures due to the inevitable material fatigue in their operation; a simple pin hinge would last longer.
@@BlackEpyon well you had a second suck of the Salve looks like if I had posted my earlier comment I was thinking about oops forgot to do it before I went about 500 videos first didn't bother to check my history it's getting late
I like that they've used a brushless motor in the cordless air duster. I wonder why so many companies haven't gone to using them when they have become so cheap nowadays?
Brushed motor likely is still cheaper, as you do not need any expensive magnetics and precision bearings for it, just cheap ferrite and sleeve bushings. Also investment in the motor assembly machine will mean they are made till the machinery is totally worn out, and cannot be repaired any more. Plus the rotor of the cheap ones now are all CCA wire, lower cost.
Kotto is sneaky... Their listing on Amazon doesn't include the HEPA filter, that's extra. You only get the carbon filter according to the listing. I almost bought one, but then you have to add the $20USD HEPA filter to the purchase and the value craters.
The Soldapullt really is something. You point it roughly at the joint you're desoldering and bang, it just does the job. Miles better than the cheap imitations.
The opolar cordless air duster doesn't have any filter on the intake, so you're going to be blowing dust you just blew out because it's going to suck it in and blow it back?
Great! Just be aware to definitely use a fume extractor when using a solder puller as if any fumes are emitted when heating that Teflon tip (typically it can melt at 327 C) they are VERY toxic ;-) Way more that the solder fumes :-(
Rubber conformal coat because the circuit tuning is sensitive to moisture perhaps? As you say, this is building site equipment - it's going to be used in cold damp conditions, rain even, left in the back of vans overnight, dew forming in the mornings... ...just discovered they still make it! www.wctproducts.com/products/utility-locating/vivax-metrotech-vm-480b-locator.php I wonder if it's still covered in rubber inside?
The air duster/blower would be best used with an extraction setup. The most extreme version I have seen video of was of a half a London Underground train in a vacuum chamber being "dusted" with high-pressure air hoses.
32:24...At $100 Cnd... it better have at least 3 li-ion batteries. I use my compressor in the garage attached to the shop. 3:39.. I still use my original SOLDAPULLT Model DS 017 that I got over 40 years ago.
I’d prefer to see more of the bench so we can see the items better. The TV doesn’t add anything for me. I preferred the old shelves with random things on :-) I’d say get the angles right so we see you and the items being opened. The rest doesn’t really matter much.
I see a lab with goodies, the lighting is doing its job just fine, I hear you just fine, love the big screen showing more lab activity... I don't have an issue with this video at all. Love it!
Oh! I wanted to buy that air duster but end up building a special air blowing tip for my Dyson V8 vacuum and it's no comparison at all! And the other design flow is that the device has no intake filtering at all and it's suckung dust into the blower fun resulting sticking the dust deeply in your electronics. Don't know it's any bad actually but doesn't look good...
For the air blowing, it is overkill, but I got an aldi air compressor, 150L pretty cheap and if you get some second hand tools like a cut off saw and polishing attachment I think it's a better deal considering old computer motherboards really need some english to get them clean.
NOTE: Something has gone horribly wrong with the release of this video! ruclips.net/video/MYcwZURW1v0/видео.html
Still at 2k views.. For sure something is wrong
We can't be mad at you for moving fully towards WFH Dave :-) (I think?)
either way, great content as usual!
Saw your video on the other channel. Left comment and came straight here. Always love your mail bag vids :)
If this is new I want to say that the benchs that other people sent in look computer generated when displayed on your wall. I mean this as pure critisism as I love your content and want you to succeed :-) Loved your Quantum computing interview recently! :-) xxx
changing the title did that.
I'm sure the cells were removed because they were leaking all over the place. The terminals and box were left to show how it looked originally.
Yeah I always laugh when he misses the obvious like that. :)
Shipping with battery is lot more paperwork
Also reduces shipping weight
The Soldapullits are bullet-proof, been using them for decades, since the early 90's at least.
You can arm them by pushing it against your (outside upper) leg, get some real speed to it with practice.
The thumb arm ones are garbage, I have caved in and bought them in the past as they are cheaper, but the ends clog up, or the tip falls out and you have to _faff about_ longer to clean them.
Cheers Dave,
Used them a-lot when I was doing electronic assembly/repair at a previous job. Have one at work now for the odd repair.
Wow, I have one of these as well, I didn't realize my dad gave me the best of the best we've been using it since the 80s, has not given up yet.
Had the cheap one for years, and yes they do have drawbacks, but have used it so much that the push button wore out, so made a new one out of aluminium rod which has lasted. Tips I add some silicone rubber sleeving onto the ends, so that it makes a good seal, and just replace it when it wears out. A good coat of oil on the inside helps with clogging, solder does not stick to it, and new nitrile rubber o ring seals on the piston also help, though it has to be a correct fit, it must be loose on the piston and slide easily in the barrel.
It’s soldapullt, like catapult.
I had a genuine radio shack plastic tailed thumb one that barely worked and I hated until the day it exploded. The one piece metal bodied one that replaced it at least seems to work consistently though, and lacks the explosive disassembly design flaw. Has enough pull to do DIPs and whatnot two leads at a time. When it dies I'll get the good one that I've since learned of, but the metal tailed cheapy wouldn't be bad in a field bag or whatever.
Dear Dave,
I was so delighted to see your review first thing this morning! Thank you so much for your lively and positive feedback. It makes us all so proud to see how much appreciation both you and your viewers have expressed about my Dad. What a surprise too that you included the excerpt from our 50th Anniversary video! As you can see, my Dad was a person who put a lot of thought and hard work behind his designs and it brings us a lot of joy to see one of his tools given so much praise and attention. My sister and I are proud to follow in my Dad’s footsteps and I can tell you with all my heart, EDSYN’s quest will continue for well-engineered and innovative products for generations to come.
Thank you again, Dave, for taking the time to review us and introduce a whole new generation to EDSYN products. We sincerely appreciate your enthusiasm and can’t THANK YOU enough! Keep up the good work! You are truly a bright spot in our industry.
Yours truly,
Juli
You guys make some really nifty looking gear. Glad to see there's quality to go with the price. As a student, it means it'll be awhile before I can afford that digital soldering station.
@@zmmj2024 thanks! We are happy you found us!
Apple "We are the first to incorporate the antenna into the case frame"
Metrotech "Stay in your lane"
Has even Apple been first with anything?
@@hannescamitz8575 They were first with a lot of things, back when their computers were still called "Macintosh." These days? An overpriced wrapper for a Debian OS.
@@BlackEpyon sure they were early, might even first with the window managing os instead of text based like the MS DOS or Pet or Amiga 1000(it had Workbench)a few years later.
Today one pays for the logo and design, back then, for the system and quality.
Please enlighten me.
@@hannescamitz8575 Xerox Alto had the first GUI, I think, but they were very expensive, about the size of a small refrigerator, and only really used in publishing. Apple had the first truly affordable system with bit-mapped graphics and a GUI, and was marketed towards education and desktop publishing.
@@hannescamitz8575 They were the first to rip off Xerox.
Those Edsyn suckers are well worth it. I've been using the same one for twenty years.
I last used mine a couple of days ago. I've been using the same one for decades. I don't remember when I acquired it.
Yeah, I have one on my desk and used it for years. I used it to re-cap motherboards way back in the beginnings of the chinese capacitor plague with it. About a year ago, I needed to repair a CNC machine power supply and had to unsolder a LOT of through hole components, so I sprung for the heated power vacuum de-soldering tool. If you have many joints to do, and have the desk space, the powered desoldering pump really saves time, but for the odd job here and there with only a couple of pins, I still use the sold-a-pullt. I remember thinking it was a bit on the expensive side when I first bought it, but it's worth the extra cost. They (Edsyn) recently sent a hot air station to Louis Rossmann to review - unfortunately it didn't quite compete with the hot air tools he stocks (the Quick or now the Atten) - he wanted to like it so badly, but it really needs more air flow, and thus a bigger heater, to deal with the large chips these days.
I am now a fan of these silicon tip desoldering pumps (e.g. model ENGINEER SS-02).
Unlike the teflon tip the silicon tip closes the gap between soldering iron and pad even better -> less suction is required.
I dont't like the small size of the ENGINEER SS-02 (from japan?), since i have big hands but it works way better than these blue/silver model Dave mentions. But maybe it was just an unfair comparsion because my old blue/silver cheapy just wore out.
I use this at work. Best solder sucker.
Bonus feature, if the plunger is press all the way down and the yellow button is pressed, the outside plunger stays down. Very nice to store it in a small toolbox.
That’s great to hear, Mike! That’s one of my favorite features too. Thanks!
Great video Dave. I love the energy, excitement and Ausie slang for a tool as simple as the SoldaPullt. Also it was a great demonstration of its use. The tool works great but unfortunately it has been imitated with cheap knockoffs that don’t work so watch out for those. Stick with the original, follow the cleaning instructions and it’s a great tool to keep around. It’s nice to see the respect you gave to Bill, I sure miss the dude and how he engineered tools designed for all us engineers and hobbyist. Keep up the entertaining and educational videos.
I love my Soldapullt - 20+ years and it still works great. We have another that floats around between us (family) since the early 80's. I can't recommend it enough. Don't forget the extra tips.
Thanks!! Nice to hear it’s part of the family!
"Lone Star... that's a Yankee thing?!"
The entire state of Texas has a stroke.
OOOOOOOOHHHH I CAN SEE THAT LONE STAR FROM A THOUSAND MILES AWAY
Andrew Ballard the *texan
J. B. You got any confederate pronouns, something less of a generalization than 'rebel', Johnny reBel? If not, then "Let God mess with Texas".
@@tripplefives1402 But we won the last battle of the Civil War!
(Due to the front's irrelevance to the war's outcome, the Union and Confederate commanders had a gentlemen's agreement to just let things stand where they were rather than shed any pointless blood. The Union put in a new commander near the end, and he was worried the war was going to end without him winning any honor in glorious battle. )
@@tripplefives1402 Little more complex than that. We fought a war with Mexico for our independence(the Alamo and Goliad massacres were part of that war), and joined the US a few years after the war was over(though it had been our intention to join since the war ended).
We still maintain great pride in our state(well beyond most), and often pretend we're STILL an independent country.
Pro tip with the blower, you can double tap the trigger to keep running without having to hold it down. For the solder sucker, I usually press it against the table or my leg. You can use it one handed that way.
That explains why they bothered to have a micro on this thing.
I really like the tube socket modular design. Super easy service and revision. It can even be done by the user, its literally as easy as replacing a tube. Also very rigid because they have a screw thru the middle.
Wow, that solder sucker brings back memories. We used those in the Navy.
Šta ovaj jede govna te ismejava ovaj uređaj,mkoji se pokazao kao iuzetno dobar.Ja sam sa modelom 440 otkrio kazan na dubini od 3 metra,sasvim sigurnooo!
Signal corps as well.
High school 97-99
Metro-tech pipe locator: Brings back memories when I was an apprentice radio tradesman at the Gas and Fuel Corporation of Victoria in the 80's. I probably repaired 100's of these back in the day, most common problem being the ground plane cable and clamp assembly that would have been stored in the empty compartment. Sometimes the actual internal modules went bad, and just for reference the later units came with epoxy encapsulated modules, not that peelable rubber coating.
I guess the rubber dip was a cheap reenterable conformal coating, and using the 9 pin plug and socket was a cheap way to make a field replaceable module that had a reliable contact, as those bases and plugs would have been a very common part in the 1970's as both new and military surplus. Likely the company bought a lot of 10k of them cheap and used them for this, as the production would have been in the hundreds of units a year.
The black box is a potted audio output transformer, just like used in old transistor radios, used for impedance matching to get a high loop current from the 9Vbattery.
Do you know someone who would sell the parts for it ? Or maybe the whole unit ..
Hope you can put Mr. Carlson Lab in the background sometime.
Aha! So Apple got the idea for the antenna design of the iphone 4 from an old pipe and cable locator? If it doesn't work, you're holding it wrong.
It it doesn't work it's probably an Apple.
With those though the single turn loop works even with your finger over it, high current and naff all voltage across it,so till you get enough iron dust in there to short below 1R it is not going to notice.
@@Dave5281968 Apple: At least it isn't Packard Hell.
That solder sucker rules IMHO. "The Original"... BTW, that plunger is usually pushed down with one hand. Flip it around and aim that yellow end towards the table, POGO stick style :) One good downward push, spin it back and you're on your way.. LOVE IT
Until you lose your grip and it tilts and sproings whatever was on the desk across the room. Hip or chest was way safer for the parts.
Been using that style Soldapullit since the mid 1970's but the anti-static one is the way to go. Anything smaller than this just doesn't have the suction. Make sure to give a hard push to pop out the tip and remove accumulated solder. Give the top a twist to remove it. Stuff a cloth through the disconnected body to clean out. Remove all solder dust from the "O" ring and then add a little lube of your choice. This unit will then last for as long as you want to use it. Oh, you may have to replace a tip every once and a while depending on your desoldering technique.
Thanks! Glad to hear from a longtime customer!
The Soldapullt tool, the best desoldering yeah. Regarding your recharching recommendation, I say no, I broke my first one doing just that that. After I bought the second one, I only recharge with both hands, no messing around. I also had a radio shack one, it worked, but plastic guide for the puller was pretty crappy, and it basically desintegrated.
If you buy a knockoff, unfortunately they do break easy because the imitation models use cheap brittle plastic. I have used and abused mine for years and other than re-lube and change an o-ring, it never broke. I recharge it upside-down on the table single handedly every time. It's worth buying the original rather than save a few bucks to buy a competing imitator.
G'day Dave. Good to see mailbag once again!
The power switches on locator are designed like that so they will automatically shut off when you snap the case closed. It keeps you from accidentally leaving it on and having a dead battery.
The strange little box next to the loop used as an antenna is a matching network - a capacitor to resonate with the loop and some additional inductors and capacitors to adjust the impedance to what the circuit expects.
Video on grounding: I was going through some old fundamentals Friday and in a video you promise a full take on grounding in a circuit complete with all traps for beginners. Please make that.
Just ordered 4 EDSYN Original Deluxe SOLDAPULLTs for all my techs. Thanks Dave.
Just make sure it says Edsyn on it, the cheap imitators can't emboss that and are made out of brittle plastic.
@@jonathanspoer4666 Thanks for the tip. I bought them directly from Edsyn, they're on sale, then I wrote them a thank you note referencing EEVBlog. Got a response saying they were excited about being featured on mailbag.
@@CraigHollabaugh thanks Craig! We are happy to have your business!
@@EdsynProducts I had one of these 30 years ago at my first co-op job, loved it, worked great. Saw this video and jumped right on your website and got 4. Glad to help your US business. Stay safe and have a great day.
@@CraigHollabaugh thanks so much!
Great video Dave, I used to service/repair that brand of pipe locator.
There were a number of versions, the valve socket method of module connection was used in quite a number of them.
Eventually the modules were properly potted and C type cells used for power.
Note the plastic speaker cone for outdoor work.
The method in the madness of the big ON/OFF push/pull switches was when you clipped the two halves together, they switched OFF.
The conformal coating and potting ensured stability and minimum calibration needed if modules swapped out for repair.
Gas and Fuel Corporation here in Victoria (Australia) used them.👍👍👍👍
Many years I used a SoldaPullt, great device.
I now have the GOOT Japanese version and still a good investment.
Did you work at Gas and Fuel back in the day? North Fitzroy?
@@damienaustin472 No, I worked for an Electronics Repair Business in Ballarat. They used to drop the local units in when they stopped.
Usually a good clean or sensitivity pot replacement. 👍
I've got the same little blower. It's definitely not as power as a can of air, but definitely cheaper in the long run!
The spinup delay you're noticing is the blower waiting for a "double click" of the trigger. If you double click it quickly, it will toggle the blower ON, and you don't need to hold the trigger down.
Keep up the awesome work!
Had to use the Metrotech at Telstra whenever the good cable locator was out. Hated it, having to stoop down to scan the ground.
I used to change large 64 pin (and greater) ICs on VCRs with those Edysn tools. (none of that nice vacuum tool rubbish) I had a 30 gallon trash can next to my stool, and I'd press the plunger against my leg with one hand, the debris would fall into the trash can, and I'd spin it around in my hand for the next pin, while the soldering iron never left my other hand. I'd get a good rhythm going, heating the next pin while pressing the plunger.
I work in repair and calibration in the US and today I finished a repair on a metro tech 480 locator. In my case I didn’t have to do much, I just replaced a bad sensitivity pot and changed the old school 9v cells for packs using standard AA batteries. Quite the experience to see this show up and see your thoughts on them.
Mine was also far, far dirtier than this too 😂 I imagine this one sat in a back office for quite a few years
I ordered the Opolar air duster based on this review and have to say I'm impressed. Honestly, I'd say it gets 85% the power of 'canned air' but with a sunk cost of $57 USD. Should pay for itself after 6 months. The brush attachment works great on keyboards. Thanks for the teardown.
The thing to do would be to use the new duster with the mini fume hood. One blows the dust around and the other sucks it up.
(6:30) - Looks like those pull - on power switches are designed to automatically push - off when you put the two halves of the case back together.
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I’d say the pull/push style switches that Dave loves switching so much were like that so that they would be pushed off when the 2 sides were put together so that they can’t be left on. Also the removable board looks some odd relay sockets I have seen.
Julie Fortune really does her job. Yesterday i saw a video from Louis Rossmann where he got a demo hot air device. I also have one of those cheaper "radio shack" solder suckers but it always felt it has not enough power to really remove solder on some components. i already was wondering if i am using it wrong.
There is some minor technique to using a Soldapullt which isn't hard to master but some of the imitation units sold by other manufactures as solder suckers just plain suck. I was in a bind on a out of state service call so I bought an off brand solder sucker. The imitation unit barely sucked and the reload arm broke after a few uses. Occasionally when you remove the solder from a trace, a micro bridge may still exist between the component leg and pad but just nudge it with a flat screw driver or pull on the component and it will come free.
Well, I'm sold on that Edsyn solder sucker. They don't seem to be all that expensive either. Obviously more expensive than those little thumb-operated jobbies, but nowhere nearly as expensive as an electric desoldering station.
Their great for the incidental repair and DIY hobby guys and gal's, just watch out for the cheap imitation knock-off models.
I have one of those soldapullt desoldering tools. I love the serenity of it and it also went straight to my pool room... it’s the VIBE!!
I have a Edsyn Soldapullt SS750 that I bought (packaged Archer) at Radio Shack in the '80s. It's the thumb push style, but has served me well. I upgraded to one of the aluminum tube types thinking that would be better; it's not. Clogs and not as much suction.
Wow, I've got a goot solder sucker and it looks to be exactly the same. Still shits on those thumb things and from a great height, but I would like an electric desoldering station some day.
I have both the sold-a-pullt, and a heated vacuum pump desoldering station. If you only have a few joints to do, the sold-a-pullt works great. If you're taking a whole board apart to repair the PCB, the power vacuum tool really saves time and wins the day. I still use the manual one if I need to de-solder something with a few pins quickly. If it has more than 6 or 8 pins, probably worth the time to wait 2 minutes for the vacuum station to heat up!
We make a few models of Desoldering Stations that are very powerful and consistent. There is a self contained version or one that can be used with your own shop air. Check out models ZD500DX and ZD505V. Feel free to email us with any questions or assistance at sales@edsyn.com and mention this video for a nice discount.
40:47 - You can also lock the plunger by depressing the button and pushing it all the way and then releasing the button.
That fume extractor, with a larger funnel at the end, with a ring of LEDs to help illuminate the job. I think that could be a complete winner
*Fun fact:* air duster cans contain refrigerant.
What makes for a good duster gas? One which liquefies at a relatively low pressure - low enough to be contained in a flimsy spray can. The same sort of properties which make for a good refrigerant!
The ones they select are, of course, not _as_ harmful to the atmosphere as what you would find in your refrigerator.
I love the lab backgrounds. Super cool.
Do whatever works best for your workflow! As long as I get to watch mailbag it all works!
Yes the pipe locators are still made and sold. Also many new water mains installs use a locator wire buried alongside the pvc water line for these units
The hand-held suckers also seem to have a higher "peak suction" compared to the desoldering stations.
Also, be careful cocking the sucker, bits of solder might come out and drop onto your board or whatever. I used to take it down and push it against my thigh, and angle the tip towards the ground so any solder would end up on the floor or in a trash can sitting right there.
Solderpullt isn't a play on the word 'solder pull it', it's a play on the word catapult.
The reason for the tube sockets is to make it easy to change parts out. If you change a frequency, you pop two boards out ( one in Xmitter and one in Receiver ) and pop in new boards. I you have parts failures, you do the same. Easy enough for a tech to do in the field. Board can be fixed back in the shop later.
I bought one of these Koto Fume Extractors and it arrived yesterday - it works great but I was very disappointed to find there was no HEPA filter included, only the carbon filter. Still for $190 AUD delivered it is very good value imo.
Oh man, I used to repair and calibrate the metrotech locators among others. Mostly the more modern ones but I have looked at one of these before, occasionally someone would walk in with one of these old clunkers. I am actually shocked at the condition of this one. Any one I have looked at has been through the wringer and beyond, mostly servicing the oil and gas industry - those guys are hard on their equipment.
That little fume extractor is kinda neat but $80 seems a bit much for basically a box and a fan, if they could possibly get that price down to about half by offering a DIY kit with only the box and hose then that would sorta be worth it, at its current price though it wouldn't be very hard to make your own using a plastic tub or whatever and save a few bucks.
I much preferred the previous setup with the camera far away and the TV full screen behind you.
When you hold something up to the camera in the past, it’s a lot of blurry-ness while trying to hide your face, and pulling the object away just as it comes into focus.
I think the high impedance speaker is just the cheapest they could source. They are designed for PA use, easy to connect many in parallel and run on high(ish) voltage with thin cables.
34:50 Edsyn? Ahhh yes, Louis Rossmann reviewed one of their hot air stations recently, and wasn't exactly impressed. I'd like to see Dave review it and hear his thoughts.
It was competitive air station when it was developed during the transition from through-hole to surface mount, but newer technology has passed it by.
Me too, wasn't impressed with the Rossmann review to be honest, would like to see what Dave reckons to it.
@@NusaCat That's not the tool for his needs but it should have some advantages over the large hot air stations because at least Weller makes similar tools.
Louis obviously didn't read the instructions and there were likely other tips included he should have used. Also desolding isn't about large amounts of airflow, there is a technique to use the proper heat to air ratio. Too much airflow dissipates the heat too much while lower airflow focus's the heat better and avoids damaging sensitive IC's. It's just too bad that the airflow regulator got damaged in shipping, he should have stopped right there and contacted Edsyn to get a replacement. They have great customer service unlike the knockoff companies out there. Louis just likes the demotion hammer approach rather than the surgical approach which can sometimes work but easily blowup and cause excessive damage.
@@jonathanspoer4666 Fair points. Its design still seems pretty "how ya doin'" with the parts and tubes external. Rossmann is a seat-of-the-pants kind of guy, for sure.
still have my dads from the 70s, you just have to remember to lube or replace the o ring now and then to keep the suction good
usually if you just put a little more silicone grease (available in the plumbing section of the hardware store to use in rubber parts in faucets) on it, it seals fine. I've had mine for many years, and never had to replace the tip or the o-ring yet.
@@gorak9000 never replaced anything on it either but probably could use a new tip. The first time I used it was after probably a decade of sitting in a box and took awhile before figuring out I needed to grease the o ring to help the poor suction I was getting
Those old cardboard battery boxes have been purposely left there as a collectors item. Notice how they have been painstakingly glue back shut. And you just casually rip the open and toss them to the side...
I remember there was a battery very similar to that leaving the same time it was 9 volts was using those back Roy I don't know what year was that Batteries Plus of course this was before the year 2000 don't know exactly what year but long time ago.
But those type of batteries at least the ones I had and used and yes the terminals salvaged of course good to start with or useless just stuff I found all times yard sale not really worth actually getting it working the cell styles are whatever but it was bought for parts Pennies on the dollar or less they were just going to throw it out or people that knew me or people that know them excetera or The Bargain Bin at estate sales yard sales or throwing a few dollars for the whole lot of times people did not know what the stuff was or it was stuff laying in someone's basement when they moved in exe numerous times something like that has happened. Gopher all I'm saying chance things or Champs meetups about something.
But also back to the batteries what was inside the 1ns that I was able to obtain the modern versions of the old one y but I doubt it they were carbon zink newer replacements 1What it was essenti wa a bunch of Standard carbon zinc 9 volt batteries connected in parallel t bord but the same sort as that was in those battery seat ripped apart but there was roughly 8 or 10 or so 9 volt on the bottom side of that battery terminal on the back let's bus bars connecting all those 9 volt batteries in parallel and then the two steps terminals I thought you had a complete battery that would replace an original one that probably was made out of individual cells possibly e s or something like that or wardrobe oh by the way some 6 volt Lantern batteries have large batteries possibly F Solis I'm not talking about the square ones that would be stacked in the battery but the bout to some of his of a c in terms of diameter butt about 1.5 roughly the length these are good for making custom battery packs can't remember which 6 volt lantern battery is it's up for which ones. Something worth looking into for customer applications by the way to those can be used in some 3 sell flashlights but but still work but last substantially longer do the hunter capacity of the cells know these are alkaline types.
Remember once I used to have an old vintage geiger counter pretty sure it was civil defense if I'm real correctly are you were doing the radiation unit in science in school I told my son's teacher I had a vintage geiger counter he said you know you can bring it in for extra credit he said is possible to get working and I said well probably has batteries he said you know that a lot of times in science classes we use those old batteries before he was at that school that there was a Cabot of the old weird batteries in the previous School some of which have been there for years and years so which still even work at least at that time even though they probably been there 20 years mostly Mercury battery set is the real fever surviving alkaline once of course not carbon zinc they were brought it long ago also I noticed that it had a Mercury reference cell as it was referred to in the manual Surprisingly it still had a little bit of old joint but not full which is a strange for mercury battery maybe corrosion? but in the end I did get that geiger counter working that was another nice A+ on a project that I didn't even know would be a project for school had a lot of those it seems at least personally.
not just the grades but unexpected extra credit projects just because of something I brought up and wind up doing it.
also there were even some projects I did over the summer vacation that hand to do if sometimes if I known about it I'll just have to talk about teachers and lo and behold they said you know you could do a report or presentation or shutch.
Some were actually project for history class others as well.
back to the electronics and the geiger counter I found ou the civil defense one I had was actually most of the one that's cool owned and that one was a lot more modern if I'm not mistaken it was digital then this one with an analog but yet outdid it
I do remember the one I had required at least a 40 some-odd volt battery can't remember long time The exact voltage that is -47 1/2? also the 60v? battery it seems like it used every battery type there was an even the higher voltage 90 volt and one at my tire or Debbie 2 and series can still required a few the D batteries Edition if I'm not mistaken it was for the film it this thing was actually vacuum tubes although I did actually wind up having to change Wenatchee tubes fortunately is a fairly common one interesting there was a meteor shower voltage regulator tube that also served as a pilot light for the unit again this was battery powered I never seen you circuit for like this and anything and I believe there was some sort of inverter circuit as well but don't know why with all those ones at the batteries and I think even required a 6 volt lantern battery if I'm not mistaken the battery pack was a separate box that connected tube plug eventually I scrap that you're out once the batteries are no longer available and some way it gives me another unit that ran off a few batteries if I'm not mistaken it ran off to 6 volt Lantern batteries? that one it it was even more sensitive than the other one so cool.
I was going to scrap the original however something told me to keep it one piece don't know why maybe it's the project who knows.
By the way I was using one that didn't even need any.
also I will end up clearing out pretty much everything I could for me old electronics lab in there left to an extent at least the stuff that be easy enough to transport generator sett is the other oh yeah the bench power supply was actually sort of under the bench this was in the old back room most of the stuff I've been in the basement of school for was they said that seems like eons.
also in the basement of school if you went for enough had these an access their it was connect with that building and no one knows what it's for or anything weird stuff there was even a big Mercury Arc rectifier this was Underground it would seem like half a mile or tunnels there's also some sort of steam pump and some things doing with other systems in the city but no one knows why they were connected with the school and yes every time you into the school system weird and also there was no steam whistle In one part of the school Inside Louvered area But no one knows why I suspect it might have been noon whistle War sometime warning system And there was places that no one know for their for one even had a bedroom And bathroom with its own Air handling system and everything And a hallway that went down to these tunnels I'm thinking there was something that people aren't supposed to know about that on I'm thinking so that stuff I've had something to do for all that to who knowsThere was also Windows facing certain directions that one time had a big light in them that could be Covered with colored filter Remotely somehow That would shine through louvers not actual windows? It may have been in a room next to where the whistle was the steam whistleOf course this was locked away behind numerous tours Some witch look like fire doors or heavier even multiple ones I'm thinking Civil defense as in like you know someone was supposed to beMaybe even post-apocalypse This was Evidently around before the cold war era This was constructed at least some parts There was other weird things strange And yes there was a big fallout shelter That looks like it could support a small community but evidently no one had known about that who knows I seen stranger things in that area too so Bloom some very similar And just weird Oh and yeah it looks like it was old radio equipment to inside of various I mean literally almost an inch of dust I do know that there was Is some things that were still working but no one knows why and it had been maintained but no one knows I'm not kidding know why or who and Almost like miniature railroad tracks As far as I know there was no nuclear installation So I guess I'll everything anywhere near there is a weird thing But I suspect had something to do with military Or something like that Which makes sense with all the things that you just don't seeLike that .
at least that one time I suspect it had something to do with it.Oh and yeah there was a room full of storage batteries about as far as the eye can see And by the way that mercury Arc rectifier was operational it powered up When we were down thereI had heard rumors around town about things like this As well as there was rumors that if there was a source of water And an independent source of power for something in the area but they didn't know. I think whatever it was was under our school this this is not fiction this isFact but still Lil spooky and mysterious Etc The only reason I knew about this was because my technical knowledge and background they thought I'd like to be able to shed some lightt but I was perplexed Had some answers mostNot so much although there was an AC and DC Switchgear system and controls of some sort And it was like there was Almost like Power Station?well Weird thing is it didn't look like anything I've ever seen a odd voltages That you justWouldn't run across did something like the power for something of that scale I almost thought it was a holdover from the Edison system or perhaps Trolley system that's not it and also the voltages weren't right And too many of themAnd also Is that equipment wasOperational and in actual use you could see the meters changing At least in terms of the current And somewhat voltage Both the AC and DC
also there's modern lighting fixtures and other things as well intermixed so obviously it been operating And maintained
@@aaronbrandenburg2441 tldr
I like the camera closer to you. Being able to hold items up to the camera is much better. Back ground screen not filling the picture looks fine to me. Nice video!
I like the other framing (TV taking the whole background) better. You could solve the distance issue by using a second camera for close up shots, would probably be better any way as you could a fixed focus set so you don't have to wait for the camera autofocus as you have in the past.
That sucker sucks so much solder holes on my protoboard
At 9:15 I don't think they are using the metal as the coil, the wires have insulators to stop them touching it. The coil wire will be on the inside, not the actual metal trim otherwise they wouldn't use those brown insulators at all.
The tube socket was used on everything because it was a common off the shelf part. There was no reason to invent a new connector so they used it throughout the 70's. I am not surprised that you found a tube socket in professional industrial equipment of that era.
to get rid of the dead space below the telly: maybe have your camera on a lower angle? will probably have the double whammy of showing more bench and probably better to hold stuff to the camera
I keep pressing F5 all day long until an EEVBlog video come out
I've been using a Goot brand one from Jaycar that only now I have found out is a copy of the Edsyn one. This one doesnt work too great but is far better than the smaller ones. Going to pick up one of the Edsyn ones, trying to see if I can find one of the AS196-G somewhere first else I might get the silver one.
I saw a old film where they used radioactive material for finding pipes under ground. They just poured some radioactive liquid into the pipe and used a Geiger counter to find the strongest signal. I wonder if that practice was used a lot. Seems quite unsafe.
Dave, use a wide angle lens so you can keep the camera close but get a wider frame
I can see how with very little work the same cordless air duster design 31:43 can be adapted to be a solder sucker design by using the fan air input & adding a solder trap with a wireless foot switch. to complete the design.
Like the new camera location. Especially when Dave leans in and we can count the pores in his nose :)
I used a fancier locator from Metrotech, and worked in California. So when the device needed adjustment or repair I could drive to the company and they'd put it on the bench immediately and let me watch the repair along with giving hints on use of the locator. Great company!
Oh. those pull switches were like that so that when you put the kit back together they would automatically turn off/
We have one of those suckers in the workbench as well, but I have to admit I've always been more of a wicker when it comes to desoldering.
36:23 Odd to have a very English narrator for their old Edsyn publicity video!
Her name is Angela - and she narrates quite a few of our videos. She mainly works in the UK but has been a long time colleague.
No way, we got a ton of different solder suckers at work, and I tried every single one, since most were worse than my old cheapo one, I even cleaned most and changed the tips if I could.... until I found that golden sucker! I not using anything else from now, that thing is amazing :D
Good to see another mailbag, a few things suck in this video, good quality sucking to say the least, lol. Will definitely be buying one of those solder sucker's, that is bloody awesome and fair price also, about $21 yanky bucks and cheap shipping to Australia when compared to many other stuff. Will buy a few things from Edyson.
Thanks Dave, great video mate.
I like the camera closer like it is here, pretty cool having the screen showing viewers workshops. Mine is crappy in comparison, I'm a DIYer and build my own bench and shelves, pretty how ya goin' compared to you pro's.
Small correction to help people find them, it's EDSYN, not Edyson. www.edsyn.com/
That price is amazing, I was expecting it to be 3-4 times as much. I'll definitely be buying one when I can afford it. (Shakes angry fist at covid.)
@H Higgins Teflon, really? If so, ugh. I won't be able to buy these after all, because I have birds and when overheated, Teflon offgases toxic byproducts that are lethal to birds at very low concentrations. :(
Edit: Googled and you're right. Damn and blast, that makes these a nonstarter for me.
@H Higgins yep, birds are extremely sensitive to teflon fumes. Google and you'll find many reports of people accidentally killing their birds by overheating a nonstick pan at the opposite end of their house. :( I doubt solder fumes are great for them either, but teflon in particular is a well known danger for bird owners.
You should start up and use your fume extractor, when using the Air Duster. :-D
I have that same air duster. It's not quite as powerful as the cans, but man, so much less waste. I really wasn't expecting it to be as powerful as it is. Battery lasts for quite some time as well.
23:26 Lone Star is definitely NOT a Yankee thing 😂
Are you saying "lone star" is not "just" a Yankee thing or are you under the impression that "lone star" has nothing to do with the USA?
I've only heard the "lone star" phrase in reference to the wild west (which I assumed referred to the small towns that only had a single law officer) and Texas's claim of being "the lone star state"... I'd be interested to know of other uses for the "lone star" phrase.
@@dustinbird2090 To a Texan, a "Yankee" refers someone from the northeast US, typically city folk, and they would not appreciate being associated with them.
Everyone gets what Dave meant (outside the US, a "yankee thing" just means a US thing in general). But the phrase "Lone Star is some kind of Yankee thing" is hilarious.
@@robertlong13 Interesting, I didn't know that about Texans. I remember learning in school that the song "Yankee doodle dandy" originated from the colonists mock owning of & reversing an insult into an honorific(*) of a British taunt tune where Yankee was synonymous with idiot or fool. Kind of interesting how that has played out lexographically that Texans, as far as you recon, disassociate from the Yankee term and have isolated the term to its colonial roots. You learn something new everyday, right? Have a good one!
*If anyone knows of a single word or phrase to fit the description or can provide better historical context, please share.
1:26 Did somebody say Trinitron? Industry workhorse.
3:05 Sir Plus? King Arthur always kept an extra knight around
10:04 Why yes I have. This was referred to as an integrated circuit back in the day.
13:37 High impedance speakers were frequently used with intercoms to act as both microphone and speaker. They were great at neither. Less power required for a given volume? Perhaps, but you'd need a transformer for impedance matching.
34:13 If only they made hoses for use with shop air (Wait...isn't that how shop air is delivered to the tools?) then you could take your compressed air gun outside with you. Also, if you have shop air, you probably also have shop dust extraction. (A budget equivalent would be to use a shop vac with your cordless duster.)
The spring is clearly intended to give the switch button a more decisive return. It could also keep the unit usable long after the compliant part of the button breaks, which will probably happen in short order if you use this on a regular basis. I'll never trust the longevity of compliant structures due to the inevitable material fatigue in their operation; a simple pin hinge would last longer.
40:42 when "it really sucks" is actually the best honor you can give a product
If a fume extractor fails at "sucking," is that a win?
now we gonna see GachiMuchi remix of it
Also if someone tries to sell vacuum cleaners as well don't forget my father used to sell Kirby's many many years ago!
@@aaronbrandenburg2441 I was fond of our old Electrolux, myself.
@@BlackEpyon well you had a second suck of the Salve looks like if I had posted my earlier comment I was thinking about oops forgot to do it before I went about 500 videos first didn't bother to check my history it's getting late
I like that they've used a brushless motor in the cordless air duster. I wonder why so many companies haven't gone to using them when they have become so cheap nowadays?
Brushed motor likely is still cheaper, as you do not need any expensive magnetics and precision bearings for it, just cheap ferrite and sleeve bushings. Also investment in the motor assembly machine will mean they are made till the machinery is totally worn out, and cannot be repaired any more. Plus the rotor of the cheap ones now are all CCA wire, lower cost.
Kotto is sneaky... Their listing on Amazon doesn't include the HEPA filter, that's extra. You only get the carbon filter according to the listing.
I almost bought one, but then you have to add the $20USD HEPA filter to the purchase and the value craters.
Your videos haven't been recommended to Me and quite a while, even though I'm subscribed. Thumbs up for resuming mail bag!
36:10 - I vote for solder-wick here! These are finicky and they gather cold solder crud in its tip!
There is a cleaning shaft that clears out the tip when the plunger is depressed and recycled.
The Soldapullt really is something. You point it roughly at the joint you're desoldering and bang, it just does the job. Miles better than the cheap imitations.
The opolar cordless air duster doesn't have any filter on the intake, so you're going to be blowing dust you just blew out because it's going to suck it in and blow it back?
Dave's hilarious. Box with radiation logo, proceeds to sniff it.
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The antennas in the pipe detector are likely magnetic loop antennas. High Q and very directional.
29:42 The charging power supply (input) is rated at 10W. The blower is (output) is 40W.
I like the sound and the feel of the vid.... reminds me of some of your earlier stuff.
Seems a bit more 'back yard-ish' compared with your previous setup - new lab?
Great! Just be aware to definitely use a fume extractor when using a solder puller as if any fumes are emitted when heating that Teflon tip (typically it can melt at 327 C) they are VERY toxic ;-) Way more that the solder fumes :-(
Rubber conformal coat because the circuit tuning is sensitive to moisture perhaps? As you say, this is building site equipment - it's going to be used in cold damp conditions, rain even, left in the back of vans overnight, dew forming in the mornings...
...just discovered they still make it! www.wctproducts.com/products/utility-locating/vivax-metrotech-vm-480b-locator.php
I wonder if it's still covered in rubber inside?
dunno if its just me but i would raise the camera by a foot and angle it down so you get a better table view, like the setup
The air duster/blower would be best used with an extraction setup. The most extreme version I have seen video of was of a half a London Underground train in a vacuum chamber being "dusted" with high-pressure air hoses.
My favorite is a box fan set in a window blowing out. Or take it outside on a windy day.
32:24...At $100 Cnd... it better have at least 3 li-ion batteries. I use my compressor in the garage attached to the shop.
3:39.. I still use my original SOLDAPULLT Model DS 017 that I got over 40 years ago.
Absolutely in love with Air Duster.....
I’d prefer to see more of the bench so we can see the items better.
The TV doesn’t add anything for me. I preferred the old shelves with random things on :-)
I’d say get the angles right so we see you and the items being opened. The rest doesn’t really matter much.
I see a lab with goodies, the lighting is doing its job just fine, I hear you just fine, love the big screen showing more lab activity... I don't have an issue with this video at all. Love it!
Oh! I wanted to buy that air duster but end up building a special air blowing tip for my Dyson V8 vacuum and it's no comparison at all!
And the other design flow is that the device has no intake filtering at all and it's suckung dust into the blower fun resulting sticking the dust deeply in your electronics. Don't know it's any bad actually but doesn't look good...
For the air blowing, it is overkill, but I got an aldi air compressor, 150L pretty cheap and if you get some second hand tools like a cut off saw and polishing attachment I think it's a better deal considering old computer motherboards really need some english to get them clean.
Closer camera is better for simple zooms; the slight lag back to normal zoom seemed reasonable. Thanks